[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-02 Thread markmeredith2002

   Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan
  was ripped off for 
   $16 million  does not make it true. Kaplan said
  all kinds of things 
   about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off
  was not one of the 
   claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was
  ill-treated after donating 
   millions of dollars.
  
  
  He said a great deal more than he was ill treated.
  Aren't all the
  letters in the files area?
  
  JohnY

Earl made it clear both publicly and to his friends that the
transfering of the monies in the spiritual center acct to India was
the main cause of the split and was deeply surprising and disturbing
to him at the time.  It's true there may have been some rumblings of
dissatisfaction already due to a number of factors such as MMY turning
down Earl's offer of sponsoring pundits and the reason for doing so
(which has been discussed here before) - Earl did not go on the
millionaires course probably for this reason.  But the reports from
close friends and spiritual mountain associates of Earl is that he was
very much committed to the spiritual mountain project and sponsoring
purusha and MD.  I don't know anything direct about David's state of mind.

People can believe the $16 million heist story or not based on their
perceptions of MMY, but the view that the Kaplans made up the whole
split as a way to justify selling the property is not viewed as true
by anyone who knew them at the time.  

I don't know the details of the sale - if it includes all the
buildings as well as land and roads, then they did not clean up with a
$44 million sales price.  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan
   was ripped off for 
$16 million  does not make it true. Kaplan said
   all kinds of things 
about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off
   was not one of the 
claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was
   ill-treated after donating 
millions of dollars.
   
   
   He said a great deal more than he was ill treated.
   Aren't all the
   letters in the files area?
   
   JohnY
 
 Earl made it clear both publicly and to his friends that the
 transfering of the monies in the spiritual center acct to India was
 the main cause of the split and was deeply surprising and disturbing
 to him at the time.  It's true there may have been some rumblings of
 dissatisfaction already due to a number of factors such as MMY 
turning
 down Earl's offer of sponsoring pundits and the reason for doing so
 (which has been discussed here before) - Earl did not go on the
 millionaires course probably for this reason.  But the reports from
 close friends and spiritual mountain associates of Earl is that he 
was
 very much committed to the spiritual mountain project and sponsoring
 purusha and MD.  I don't know anything direct about David's state 
of mind.
 
 People can believe the $16 million heist story or not based on their
 perceptions of MMY, but the view that the Kaplans made up the whole
 split as a way to justify selling the property is not viewed as true
 by anyone who knew them at the time.  
 
 I don't know the details of the sale - if it includes all the
 buildings as well as land and roads, then they did not clean up 
with a
 $44 million sales price.


Inever said that they cleaned up. I said that they had a buyer in-
line. A sale of $44 million taking place in a period of only 3 months 
from the time the property legally becomes available is pretty darned 
unusual. While its always possible that someone just happened upon 
the property and made a bid and closed the deal in 90 days, more 
likely, the Kapplans were approached well before they got permission 
to make the sale. I suspect that their final decision to go public 
with their reservations was triggered by a solid buy inquiry.

Similarly, Chopra was alreaady well-out-of the TMO for nearly a year 
before the TMO announced that he was gone. A canny businessman 
doesn't just pack his bags and leave without having something waiting 
for him if he can help it.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote:
 
  A windfall for Kaplan, but also good for meditators who owned 
homes 
  next to Purusha, as their home values will go up -- they can sell 
  easily, and I bet most will head to Vedic City/FF:
  
  http://tinyurl.com/q76pg
  
  David Kaplan, the developer of Heavenly Mountain, owned the 
  property then. When he started Heavenly Mountain in 1993, he 
became 
  the largest private landowner in Watauga County, with more than 
  7,000 acres.
  
  On 500 acres, he built the nonprofit Maharishi Spiritual Center 
of 
  America, with separate campuses for men and women who practiced 
  Transcendental Meditation. Heavenly Mountain also included a for-
  profit section of about 1,000 acres that could be developed for 
lots 
  and homes in the future.
  
  But in 2004, Kaplan announced that he had severed ties with the 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a former Hindu monk who drew from ancient 
  Eastern techniques of meditation when he began the TM movement in 
  1958. In announcing his break with TM, Kaplan said he would 
pursue 
  commercial development of his property.
  
  In January 2005, the Watauga County Planning Board approved 
Kaplan's 
  development plans for a large section of pro-perty. Three months 
  later, he sold the land, nearly 5,000 acres, to Ginn LA Laurel 
Creek 
  Ltd. for nearly $44 million.
 
 
 It sounds like he may have made some money - that's good. One of the
 few, I'll bet.
 

The swift way in which this deal occured makes me wonder if he had 
been looking for a way to unload his property for quite some time and 
once he found it, he coinicidentally found that the TMO was full of 
it...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote:
  
   A windfall for Kaplan, but also good for meditators who owned 
 homes 
   next to Purusha, as their home values will go up -- they can sell 
   easily, and I bet most will head to Vedic City/FF:
   
   http://tinyurl.com/q76pg
   
   David Kaplan, the developer of Heavenly Mountain, owned the 
   property then. When he started Heavenly Mountain in 1993, he 
 became 
   the largest private landowner in Watauga County, with more than 
   7,000 acres.
   
   On 500 acres, he built the nonprofit Maharishi Spiritual Center 
 of 
   America, with separate campuses for men and women who practiced 
   Transcendental Meditation. Heavenly Mountain also included a for-
   profit section of about 1,000 acres that could be developed for 
 lots 
   and homes in the future.
   
   But in 2004, Kaplan announced that he had severed ties with the 
   Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a former Hindu monk who drew from ancient 
   Eastern techniques of meditation when he began the TM movement in 
   1958. In announcing his break with TM, Kaplan said he would 
 pursue 
   commercial development of his property.
   
   In January 2005, the Watauga County Planning Board approved 
 Kaplan's 
   development plans for a large section of pro-perty. Three months 
   later, he sold the land, nearly 5,000 acres, to Ginn LA Laurel 
 Creek 
   Ltd. for nearly $44 million.
  
  
  It sounds like he may have made some money - that's good. One of the
  few, I'll bet.
  
 
 The swift way in which this deal occured makes me wonder if he had 
 been looking for a way to unload his property for quite some time and 
 once he found it, he coinicidentally found that the TMO was full of 
 it...

What was swift about it?  Over 2 yrs since his split.  The split
occured due to the pilfering of $16 million that he put into the
spiritual center acc't to pay for past taxes, improvements, and
support for purusha and MD, so he was still very much into the project
at that time.  Who knows if he made money?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
A windfall for Kaplan, but also good for meditators who owned 
  homes 
next to Purusha, as their home values will go up -- they can 
sell 
easily, and I bet most will head to Vedic City/FF:

http://tinyurl.com/q76pg

David Kaplan, the developer of Heavenly Mountain, owned the 
property then. When he started Heavenly Mountain in 1993, he 
  became 
the largest private landowner in Watauga County, with more 
than 
7,000 acres.

On 500 acres, he built the nonprofit Maharishi Spiritual 
Center 
  of 
America, with separate campuses for men and women who 
practiced 
Transcendental Meditation. Heavenly Mountain also included a 
for-
profit section of about 1,000 acres that could be developed 
for 
  lots 
and homes in the future.

But in 2004, Kaplan announced that he had severed ties with 
the 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a former Hindu monk who drew from 
ancient 
Eastern techniques of meditation when he began the TM 
movement in 
1958. In announcing his break with TM, Kaplan said he would 
  pursue 
commercial development of his property.

In January 2005, the Watauga County Planning Board approved 
  Kaplan's 
development plans for a large section of pro-perty. Three 
months 
later, he sold the land, nearly 5,000 acres, to Ginn LA 
Laurel 
  Creek 
Ltd. for nearly $44 million.
   
   
   It sounds like he may have made some money - that's good. One 
of the
   few, I'll bet.
   
  
  The swift way in which this deal occured makes me wonder if he 
had 
  been looking for a way to unload his property for quite some time 
and 
  once he found it, he coinicidentally found that the TMO was full 
of 
  it...
 
 What was swift about it?  Over 2 yrs since his split.  The split
 occured due to the pilfering of $16 million that he put into the
 spiritual center acc't to pay for past taxes, improvements, and
 support for purusha and MD, so he was still very much into the 
project
 at that time.  Who knows if he made money?


Sometime in 2004, he announced his split and that he was seeking to 
go commercial. In January of 2005 he got pernission to go commercial. 
Three months later, he had a deal to sell it. That's about 1 year 
from the announcement of his change of heart to a final sale 
agreement but only 3 months from the permission-graning. That's 
pretty darned fast for a property that sold for $44 million. He had a 
buyer sniffing around BEFORE he announced the split, obviously.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
 markmeredith@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:

 A windfall for Kaplan, but also good for meditators who owned 
   homes 
 next to Purusha, as their home values will go up -- they can 
 sell 
 easily, and I bet most will head to Vedic City/FF:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/q76pg
 
 David Kaplan, the developer of Heavenly Mountain, owned the 
 property then. When he started Heavenly Mountain in 1993, he 
   became 
 the largest private landowner in Watauga County, with more 
 than 
 7,000 acres.
 
 On 500 acres, he built the nonprofit Maharishi Spiritual 
 Center 
   of 
 America, with separate campuses for men and women who 
 practiced 
 Transcendental Meditation. Heavenly Mountain also included a 
 for-
 profit section of about 1,000 acres that could be developed 
 for 
   lots 
 and homes in the future.
 
 But in 2004, Kaplan announced that he had severed ties with 
 the 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a former Hindu monk who drew from 
 ancient 
 Eastern techniques of meditation when he began the TM 
 movement in 
 1958. In announcing his break with TM, Kaplan said he would 
   pursue 
 commercial development of his property.
 
 In January 2005, the Watauga County Planning Board approved 
   Kaplan's 
 development plans for a large section of pro-perty. Three 
 months 
 later, he sold the land, nearly 5,000 acres, to Ginn LA 
 Laurel 
   Creek 
 Ltd. for nearly $44 million.


It sounds like he may have made some money - that's good. One 
 of the
few, I'll bet.

   
   The swift way in which this deal occured makes me wonder if he 
 had 
   been looking for a way to unload his property for quite some time 
 and 
   once he found it, he coinicidentally found that the TMO was full 
 of 
   it...
  
  What was swift about it?  Over 2 yrs since his split.  The split
  occured due to the pilfering of $16 million that he put into the
  spiritual center acc't to pay for past taxes, improvements, and
  support for purusha and MD, so he was still very much into the 
 project
  at that time.  Who knows if he made money?
 
 
 Sometime in 2004, he announced his split and that he was seeking to 
 go commercial. In January of 2005 he got pernission to go commercial. 
 Three months later, he had a deal to sell it. That's about 1 year 
 from the announcement of his change of heart to a final sale 
 agreement but only 3 months from the permission-graning. That's 
 pretty darned fast for a property that sold for $44 million. He had a 
 buyer sniffing around BEFORE he announced the split, obviously.


He may have needed the $16 milliion back. Maybe the other folks were
in a hurry... how can we know? It's not at all obvious.

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 He may have needed the $16 milliion back. Maybe the other folks were
 in a hurry... how can we know? It's not at all obvious.
 
 JohnY



***

Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan was ripped off for 
$16 million  does not make it true. Kaplan said all kinds of things 
about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off was not one of the 
claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was ill-treated after donating 
millions of dollars.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
 wrote:
  
  He may have needed the $16 milliion back. Maybe the other folks were
  in a hurry... how can we know? It's not at all obvious.
  
  JohnY
 
 
 
 ***
 
 Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan was ripped off for 
 $16 million  does not make it true. Kaplan said all kinds of things 
 about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off was not one of the 
 claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was ill-treated after donating 
 millions of dollars.


He said a great deal more than he was ill treated. Aren't all the
letters in the files area?

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-03-01 Thread gullible fool
 
 He said a great deal more than he was ill treated.
 Aren't all the
 letters in the files area?

They certainly are, letters by Earl and David both.
They're in the folder TMO -- the Odd Side.
  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/

--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 jyouells2000 jyouells@ 
  wrote:
   
   He may have needed the $16 milliion back. Maybe
 the other folks were
   in a hurry... how can we know? It's not at all
 obvious.
   
   JohnY
  
  
  
  ***
  
  Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan
 was ripped off for 
  $16 million  does not make it true. Kaplan said
 all kinds of things 
  about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off
 was not one of the 
  claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was
 ill-treated after donating 
  millions of dollars.
 
 
 He said a great deal more than he was ill treated.
 Aren't all the
 letters in the files area?
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan cleans up on Boone land sale

2006-02-28 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A windfall for Kaplan, but also good for meditators who owned homes 
 next to Purusha, as their home values will go up -- they can sell 
 easily, and I bet most will head to Vedic City/FF:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/q76pg
 
 David Kaplan, the developer of Heavenly Mountain, owned the 
 property then. When he started Heavenly Mountain in 1993, he became 
 the largest private landowner in Watauga County, with more than 
 7,000 acres.
 
 On 500 acres, he built the nonprofit Maharishi Spiritual Center of 
 America, with separate campuses for men and women who practiced 
 Transcendental Meditation. Heavenly Mountain also included a for-
 profit section of about 1,000 acres that could be developed for lots 
 and homes in the future.
 
 But in 2004, Kaplan announced that he had severed ties with the 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a former Hindu monk who drew from ancient 
 Eastern techniques of meditation when he began the TM movement in 
 1958. In announcing his break with TM, Kaplan said he would pursue 
 commercial development of his property.
 
 In January 2005, the Watauga County Planning Board approved Kaplan's 
 development plans for a large section of pro-perty. Three months 
 later, he sold the land, nearly 5,000 acres, to Ginn LA Laurel Creek 
 Ltd. for nearly $44 million.


It sounds like he may have made some money - that's good. One of the
few, I'll bet.

JohnY





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