Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-25 Thread Share Long
wgm, one of the ways Maharishi translated pragyaparadh was *mistake of the intellect.* I think he meant losing the discernment of unity and falling into the delusion of duality. It seems to be the fundamental samskara. As for paradoxes, it's not so much an understanding of them as a being with

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-24 Thread Share Long
wgm, could we also say that man thought he could be separate from God and that was the first pragyaparadh? Isn't that the same one we are tricked by over and over? OTOH, if wholeness is at every point, is it even possible for a samskara or vasana to be separate from wholeness?! On

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-24 Thread wgm4u
Had to look (praj·na·pa·ra·dha) up, yeah been there done that :-) I guess you could say it is acting contrary to natural law which brings suffering as MMY has stated. But man in the making had no other choice, how else was he going to learn less he experienced good and evil, right and wrong?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread wgm4u
Wow, powerful documentary. Just goes to show, Satan (temptation) is everywhere, even Jesus himself was tempted by Satan, but never succumbed, Get thee behind me Satan, he said. Here's the Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6dc449jec

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread Share Long
What do you all think: is Satan the same thing as the ego? What is meant by ego? Is it what Maharishi meant by small s self? If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength which the genius has. On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:55

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread authfriend
Share wrote: (snip) If I remember correctly, the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength which the genius has. Share, the MMPI isn't an IQ test, it's a test of mental health and personality type. And what do you mean by schizo? Schizophrenia?

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, what I read was about schizophrenia and the bottom line was that ego strength, at least as measured by the MMPI, is a good thing. On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:48 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share wrote:  (snip) If I remember correctly, the only

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread authfriend
Sure it's a good thing. But where did the only difference on the MMPI between schizo and genius, is good ego strength which the genius has come in? That, you see, is what I was asking about. Share wrote: Judy, what I read was about schizophrenia and the bottom line was that ego

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, I guess there are some items on the MMPI that measure intelligence though that is not its focus. The snippet is something I read a long time ago so don't remember the reference. I'll do a little googling and see what I can find. On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:38 PM,

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread wgm4u
IMHO, the ego is a product of nature, however nature is both pure (para-prakiti) and impure (apara-prakriti). When the Bible speaks of a fallen angel they are talking about the purely material nature, or Satan. Depending on the proclivities of the ego it is either Satanic or Angelic. (And, yes

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread Share Long
wgm4u, when you say proclivities of the ego, could this be referring to samskaras and or vasanas? And if yes, then that seems to blow free will out of the water. Thanks for distinction bt para prakriti and apara prakriti which I've not heard before. Would you say they are both in the bap? Or

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread wgm4u
That's right, it's a paradox, merely the play of nature or lila shakti as you well know. MMY called it a 'seeming' or Mithya. Only those truly enlightened know the mystery. The very first decision by man in the garden of Eden set the wheel of karma in motion, man was warned NOT to eat of

[FairfieldLife] RE: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Wow, thanks. Great narrative of the unraveling of the Church. Interesting parallels in ways about the community of the organization protecting itself. I am not Catholic and did not follow closely the whole story of it. But this is great for the arc of what happened to the Church and where they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence In The House Of God

2013-10-22 Thread TurquoiseB
Correction. Now that I'm paying more attention to the French, I should say that most of the people speaking in the documentary in sign language are students who were formerly abused by the priests, not necessarily monks who had taken a vow of silence. The students were deaf, you see, and the