[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread feste37


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> > the unified field. 
> 
> God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of 
> completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the 
> experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to 
> elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption.


LOL. Tell that to God. 


> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire 
> > > for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our 
> > > hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > 
> > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a 
> > > crap about us and what we do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People 
> > > > > should sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > 
> > > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > > 
> > > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > > 
> > > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature 
> > > > at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak 
> > > > magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all 
> > > > superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an 
> > > > inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, 
> > > > that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the 
> > > > Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > > > 
> > > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would 
> > > > seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 
> > > > 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, 
> > > > positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the 
> > > > World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during 
> > > > the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of 
> > > > the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised.
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > > 
> > > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals 
> > > > does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible 
> > > thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  
> > > Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this 
> > > for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in 
> > > fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you 
> > > shall receive.
> > > All the Best,
> > > -Buck
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I really enjoy the uncompromising purity of her heart, and the way Ananda 
> Mayi Ma expresses it. A fierce dancer with life!
> 
> I've taken a look at BC's Master's rays too, the stages of development at 
> passing, through the links you have shared. Makes sense intuitively, though 
> as much a spiritual work of art, as a science.

It could be part of a much needed new Science for the Age of Enlightenment :-) 
But since the name of BC's Master is unknown to us I wonder who's rays you were 
studying !


> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8&playnext=1&list=PL038E4AD987269E23
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQ&list=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> >  
> > http://www.anandamayi.org/
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread Richard J. Williams


sparaig: 
> They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and 
> MMY under the heading "Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas:
> 
> http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm
> 
"In the morning of May 12th, Adi Sankaracharya's birth­day, 
special chanting from the Vedas was performed by the 
pandits in front of the temple. While Adi Sankaracharya' 
puja was being celebrated, twelve Mahamandaleswaras had 
foregathered in their special seats in the hail. Erudite 
speeches were given by Swamis Prakashanandaji, Vidyanandaji, 
Hansa Prakashji, Shyamsunder Sastriji, Govindanandaji, 
etc. All of them praised Mataji's efforts to inculcate the 
worship of Adi Sankaracharya in our Ashram and expressed 
the hope that this would be followed by classes in Advaita 
Vedanta and parti­cipation in religious concourses in 
future.

The Mahatmas have gone even further: they have persuaded 
Mataji to open the Silver Jubilee of the "All India Bharat 
Vedanta Mahsamelan" in April 1979, to be held by Swami 
Purnananda Giriji in Sri Krishna Nivas Ashram, Kankhal."

The Advent of Sri Sri Adi Sankaracharya
By R. K. Banerjee (A.V.  vol.25/78/4)
http://www.anandamayi.org/sadhana/mlt.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread doctordumbass
I really enjoy the uncompromising purity of her heart, and the way Ananda Mayi 
Ma expresses it. A fierce dancer with life!

I've taken a look at BC's Master's rays too, the stages of development at 
passing, through the links you have shared. Makes sense intuitively, though as 
much a spiritual work of art, as a science.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for sharing those stories. Wonderful. I cannot imagine being in 
> > the presence of someone so intoxicated, and radiant, from the Divine. I 
> > don't think anyone could forget it. She is very true to herself.
> 
> 
> She was the Self. According to Benjamin Creme's Master She was an Avatar. 
> That's why rays, stage of development at the time of passing etc. is not 
> listed in the List of Initiates.
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural 
> > > > celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through 
> > > > > > > the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards 
> > > > > > > creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless 
> > > > > > > body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet 
> > > > > > > personal enough to form a bond for life with. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda 
> > > Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they 
> > > simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. 
> > > With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful 
> > > event.
> > > 
> > > On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after 
> > > his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a 
> > > big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so 
> > > Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest 
> > > coming to Seelisberg.
> > > Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the 
> > > car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was 
> > > as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered 
> > > his car with the flowers.
> > > 
> > > Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire 
> > > about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.
> > > 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8&playnext=1&list=PL038E4AD987269E23
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQ&list=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
>  
> http://www.anandamayi.org/
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Thank you for sharing those stories. Wonderful. I cannot imagine being in the 
> presence of someone so intoxicated, and radiant, from the Divine. I don't 
> think anyone could forget it. She is very true to herself.


She was the Self. According to Benjamin Creme's Master She was an Avatar. 
That's why rays, stage of development at the time of passing etc. is not listed 
in the List of Initiates.

 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural 
> > > celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through 
> > > > > > the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards 
> > > > > > creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless 
> > > > > > body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal 
> > > > > > enough to form a bond for life with. 
> > > > 
> > > > Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> > 
> > 
> > A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi 
> > Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply 
> > sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the 
> > devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event.
> > 
> > On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his 
> > India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big 
> > crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi 
> > probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to 
> > Seelisberg.
> > Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car 
> > holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if 
> > She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car 
> > with the flowers.
> > 
> > Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire 
> > about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.
> > 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8&playnext=1&list=PL038E4AD987269E23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQ&list=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
 
http://www.anandamayi.org/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural
celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > > >
> [...]
> >
> > A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with
Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the
first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying
a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most
beautiful event.
> >
> > On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe
after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time
quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She
went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds
of guest coming to Seelisberg.
> > Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to
the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it
was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream
covered his car with the flowers.
> >
> > Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to
enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.
> >
>
>
> Her devotees report the event slightly differently, saying that MMY
asked HER but she declined.
>
> BTW, people like to pretend that no-one ever acknowledged Maharishi's
fellow monk, Swami Satananda Saraswati, as Shankaracharya of Jyotir
Math, ,but here is what her official website says [Note that Swami
Satananda Saraswati is the only Shankaracharya ever identified by name,
suggesting a desire to clarify who they are talking about]:
>
> http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/cc.htm
>
> 1962, 9th June,Dehradun Swami Santanandaji. Shankaracharaya of Jyotir
Math comes to Ma and delivers lecture.
>
> 1963, May, Calcutta Birthday celebration in Agarpara Ashram, Swami
Santananda Shankaracharaya, Joshi Math also attends.
>
>
>
>
> They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and MMY under the
heading "Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas:
>
> http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm





The story written here by Her devotees are pretty identical to what I
wrote except She showered a basket full of flowers at Maharishi's lap
when sitting in the car  :-)   This apparently happened the same day
after he declined Her request for coming with him to Europe.

>From an unverified report:
"In 1981 during the Vedic Science course in Delhi, Maharishi sent a
large group to the Taj Mahal for a visit. While in Agra, the group heard
that the great saint Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was at her place in Vrindavan,
which was on the route back to Delhi from Agra. Maharishi
enthusiastically said the group should visit her and to take shawls,
saris, fruits, garlands, sweets as our gift. The group arrived at
twilight and meditated in a group outside her house while waiting for
their chance to go up to the roof of the house where she gave darshan.
While the group was waiting two giant white birds flew low over her
house the celestial quality of the sight made everyone gasp. Dr. Bevan
Morris asked the receptionist to inform Sri Ananda Mayee Ma that we were
from Maharishi. But the group had to go up in sections of ten as the
space was limited. Dr. Morris went up in the last group, and found that
Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was sitting deeply withdrawn not paying attention to
the people coming and going, and the pile of cloth, flowers, fruit etc.
that had been placed in front of her. At that stage she was very
elderly, and near the end of her Earth days. It was immediately obvious
to Dr. Morris that she had not been told that this was Maharishi's
group. He asked the administrator again to please tell Sri Ananda Mayee
Ma that these people were sent by Maharishi to see her. The
administrator began to speak to her in Bengali and at the point where he
said "Maharishi Mahesh Yogi" Sri Ananda Mayee Ma suddenly sat bolt
upright and folded her palms together, and then started grabbing fruits
and flowers and wrapping them up in packages, and giving them to us to
deliver to Maharishi. Then she gave a sublime message of devoted
greeting and love to convey to Maharishi. The group upon reaching Delhi
delivered this message to Maharishi's great joy.

On another occasion Maharishi was doing Puja with Sri Ananda Mayee Ma at
her place in Haridwar, but finally Maharishi had to go. He told Sri
Ananda Mayee Ma, "Ma you stay here and continue, and I will go". She
seemed to agree and let him go, but after a few moments got up and
followed Maharishi out to the car, walking a little behind him with the
sweetness of a small child. There was a mala wala - a garland salesman -
with a basket ful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-20 Thread card


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > > with. 
> 
> Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
>

Somehow Bangladesh (Bengal) people seem to be, in average, more easygoing than 
most people e.g. in the Northern parts of India...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread doctordumbass
Thank you for sharing those stories. Wonderful. I cannot imagine being in the 
presence of someone so intoxicated, and radiant, from the Divine. I don't think 
anyone could forget it. She is very true to herself.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, 
> > too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, 
> > > > > endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the 
> > > > > Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form 
> > > > > a bond for life with. 
> > > 
> > > Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> 
> 
> A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma 
> while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on 
> cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees 
> sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event.
> 
> On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his 
> India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big 
> crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi 
> probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to 
> Seelisberg.
> Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car 
> holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if 
> She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car 
> with the flowers.
> 
> Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about 
> Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8&playnext=1&list=PL038E4AD987269E23
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQ&list=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> 
> http://www.anandamayi.org/
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, 
> > too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
[...]
> 
> A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma 
> while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on 
> cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees 
> sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event.
> 
> On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his 
> India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big 
> crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi 
> probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to 
> Seelisberg.
> Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car 
> holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if 
> She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car 
> with the flowers.
> 
> Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about 
> Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.
> 


Her devotees report the event slightly differently, saying that MMY asked HER 
but she declined. 

BTW, people like to pretend that no-one ever acknowledged Maharishi's fellow 
monk, Swami Satananda Saraswati, as Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, ,but here is 
what her official website says [Note that Swami Satananda Saraswati is the only 
Shankaracharya ever identified by name, suggesting a desire to clarify who they 
are talking about]:

http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/cc.htm

1962, 9th June,Dehradun  Swami Santanandaji. Shankaracharaya of Jyotir Math 
comes to Ma and delivers lecture.

1963, May, Calcutta  Birthday celebration in Agarpara Ashram, Swami 
Santananda Shankaracharaya, Joshi Math also attends.




They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and MMY under the heading 
"Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas:

http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm



L



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, 
> too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, 
> > > > endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the 
> > > > Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a 
> > > > bond for life with. 
> > 
> > Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU


A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma 
while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on 
cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees 
sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event.

On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his 
India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd 
of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably 
thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg.
Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car 
holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She 
could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the 
flowers.

Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about 
Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8&playnext=1&list=PL038E4AD987269E23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQ&list=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU

http://www.anandamayi.org/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh please stop slandering her just because she loves me. She's radiant all 
right not celibate - please hate me for that not her.


On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:16 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
 wrote:

> Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, 
> too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, 
> > > > endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the 
> > > > Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a 
> > > > bond for life with. 
> > 
> > Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
> >
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread doctordumbass
Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, 
too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > > with. 
> 
> Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008


> > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > with. 

Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-19 Thread Share Long
Ok, Doc, you got me chuckling here, what with Hanuman eating fast bananas etc.  
Thanks.  I probably should of listened to Tina and the kids singing the peace 
chant anyway and that's why IT'S ALL SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL LOL.  Plus how 
stupid I was to be blaming Mars and Sun in Aries!  Though to be completely fair 
I must add that in Finland they're almost in Taurus.  Oy, more spinning (-: 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XP-f7wPM0A 


 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
Thank you. And be careful of that Devi chant. I've heard that if you listen to 
it even one nano-second past the end of the Ninth Day of Mother Divine, GMT, 
yagyas turn to Yugas, and the whole thing goes sideways faster than Hanuman can 
eat a banana.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful.  And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the 
> Devi chant.  I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of 
> Mother Divine.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
> Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
> rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite 
> to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > discussion for FFL.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> > the unified field. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire 
> > > for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our 
> > > hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > 
> > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a 
> > > crap about us and what we do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People 
> > > > > should sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > 
> > > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > > 
> > > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > > 
> > > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature 
> > > > at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-18 Thread doctordumbass
Thank you. And be careful of that Devi chant. I've heard that if you listen to 
it even one nano-second past the end of the Ninth Day of Mother Divine, GMT, 
yagyas turn to Yugas, and the whole thing goes sideways faster than Hanuman can 
eat a banana.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful.  And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the 
> Devi chant.  I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of 
> Mother Divine.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
> Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
> rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite 
> to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > discussion for FFL.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> > the unified field. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire 
> > > for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our 
> > > hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > 
> > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a 
> > > crap about us and what we do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People 
> > > > > should sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > 
> > > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > > 
> > > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > > 
> > > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature 
> > > > at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak 
> > > > magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all 
> > > > superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an 
> > > > inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, 
> > > > that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the 
> > > > Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > > > 
> > > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would 
> > > > seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 
> > > > 'evil', negate all positi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-18 Thread Share Long
thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful.  And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the 
Devi chant.  I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of 
Mother Divine.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to 
influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with 
> you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for 
> FFL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are?
> > 
> > 
> Sorry to butt into this conversation, but according to an e-mail the unified 
> field sent me, it is requiring that I deposit a certain specified sum of 
> money in a particular bank account or it will fine me US$39.
> 
> That means I have to stop posting and get off my butt, and work out a way to 
> adjust this particular aspect of absolute being, or I can still just sit on 
> my butt, and probably there will be more messages with more demands. I have a 
> memory that this is a possible alternative.
> 
> What should I do? Should I consult the Oracle at Delphi, which unfortunately 
> is some 7,700km away from where I live now, or should a consult a financial 
> expert at great cost ('I think perhaps you should put some money in that 
> account')? Or maybe I should consult a saint and get their blessing 
> ('meditate on the Divine Mother, and all will be well')? Should I sit and 
> meditate, in the hope that all the laws of nature will support?
> 
> Life is just so perplexing. One just does not know where to turn to get 
> someone to do something for you for free.

Are you KIDDING? You can always get someone at FFL to get mad at you for free. 
Works every time.
> 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if 
> > we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For 
> > example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, 
> > and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is 
> > that?
> > 
> > To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, 
> > is only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply 
> > by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually 
> > learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness 
> > itself. 
> > 
> > It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified 
> > field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full 
> > submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A 
> > perfect paradox, submission and freedom.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine 
> > > Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions 
> > > of the "Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally 
> > > ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the 
> > > "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities 
> > > the way we like to fantasize that it does.
> > > 
> > > On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence 
> > > that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make 
> > > the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they 
> > > have a funny way of showing it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > > with. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically 
> > > > disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine 
> > > > topic of discussion for FFL.
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are?
> 
> 
Sorry to butt into this conversation, but according to an e-mail the unified 
field sent me, it is requiring that I deposit a certain specified sum of money 
in a particular bank account or it will fine me US$39.

That means I have to stop posting and get off my butt, and work out a way to 
adjust this particular aspect of absolute being, or I can still just sit on my 
butt, and probably there will be more messages with more demands. I have a 
memory that this is a possible alternative.

What should I do? Should I consult the Oracle at Delphi, which unfortunately is 
some 7,700km away from where I live now, or should a consult a financial expert 
at great cost ('I think perhaps you should put some money in that account')? Or 
maybe I should consult a saint and get their blessing ('meditate on the Divine 
Mother, and all will be well')? Should I sit and meditate, in the hope that all 
the laws of nature will support?

Life is just so perplexing. One just does not know where to turn to get someone 
to do something for you for free.

> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if 
> we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, 
> every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then 
> fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that?
> 
> To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, is 
> only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply by 
> conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn 
> that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. 
> 
> It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field 
> definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission 
> to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, 
> submission and freedom.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine 
> > Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions 
> > of the "Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally 
> > ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the 
> > "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities 
> > the way we like to fantasize that it does.
> > 
> > On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence 
> > that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make 
> > the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they 
> > have a funny way of showing it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > with. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > > discussion for FFL.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: feste37 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge 
> > > of the unified field. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Michael Jackson
Very well said.





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 

God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of 
completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the 
experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to 
elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > 
> > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > >
> > 
> > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing 
> > for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee 
> > should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for 
> > so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact 
> > tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall 
> > receive.
> > All the Best,
> > -Buck
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 

God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of 
completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the 
experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to 
elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > 
> > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > >
> > 
> > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing 
> > for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee 
> > should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for 
> > so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact 
> > tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall 
> > receive.
> > All the Best,
> > -Buck
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:

> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People 
> > > > > should sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > 
> > > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > > 
> > > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > > 
> > > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature 
> > > > at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak 
> > > > magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all 
> > > > superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an 
> > > > inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, 
> > > > that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the 
> > > > Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > > > 
> > > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would 
> > > > seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 
> > > > 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, 
> > > > positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the 
> > > > World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during 
> > > > the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of 
> > > > the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised.
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > > 
> > > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals 
> > > > does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible 
> > > thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  
> > > Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this 
> > > for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in 
> > > fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you 
> > > shall receive.
> > > All the Best,
> > > -Buck
> > >
> > 
> > For them who are not established have no steady-intellect,
> > nor have they any steady thought.
> > The human without steady thought has no peace;
> > for one without peace how can there be happiness?
> >
> 
> Spiritual Neurophysiology.
> It might take some spiritual effort [as in self-discipline of your own] to 
> pursue but someone who could be really useful in this for folks who are stuck 
> might be Janet Sussman.
> She is really good at helping fix people's subtle systems.  She has
> helped quite a lot of meditators from the top down over the years here who 
> were having troubles with their meditations
> and the spiritual progress in their subtle neurophysiologies of the body-mind 
> complex.  Rick interviewed her on Batgap   http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/   
> She's been very helpful to a lot of people this way.  Yes, a saint this way.  
> She's very accessible and helpful that way.
> Best of hope,
> -Buck

I do not have any problems with my meditation Buck. Better not use the word 
'saint'. Even a hint of saintliness could get you banned from the the dome.

And regards to the material that started this short exchange. You do realise 
that the goals of the world plan are fulfilled in one's experience upon 
awakening, but not for the experience of others still asleep. For them to be 
fulfilled for everyone, all would have to awaken. The funny thing about this is 
the value that one awakens to is always and has always been present.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Buck

>
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > 
> > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > >
> > 
> > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing 
> > for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee 
> > should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for 
> > so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact 
> > tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall 
> > receive.
> > All the Best,
> > -Buck
> >
> 
> For them who are not established have no steady-intellect,
> nor have they any steady thought.
> The human without steady thought has no peace;
> for one without peace how can there be happiness?
>

Spiritual Neurophysiology.
It might take some spiritual effort [as in self-discipline of your own] to 
pursue but someone who could be really useful in this for folks who are stuck 
might be Janet Sussman.
She is really good at helping fix people's subtle systems.  She has
helped quite a lot of meditators from the top down over the years here who were 
having troubles with their meditations
and the spiritual progress in their subtle neurophysiologies of the body-mind 
complex.  Rick interviewed her on Batgap   http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/   
She's been very helpful to a lot of people this way.  Yes, a saint this way.  
She's very accessible and helpful that way.
Best of hope,
-Buck 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-17 Thread Buck

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > 
> > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit 
> > > up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > 
> > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > 
> > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> > field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> > entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> > surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> > field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> > superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > 
> > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> > effectively neutralised.
> > 
> > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> >of individuals and society FAILED
> > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > 
> > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> > successes are the outliers in this business.
> >
> 
> Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
> chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
> spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should 
> not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on 
> this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you 
> shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too 
> many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous 
> grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
> All the Best,
> -Buck
>

For them who are not established have no steady-intellect,
nor have they any steady thought.
The human without steady thought has no peace;
for one without peace how can there be happiness? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread doctordumbass


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if 
> > we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For 
> > example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, 
> > and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is 
> > that?
> > 
> > To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, 
> > is only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply 
> > by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually 
> > learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness 
> > itself. 
> 
> 
> That's what life is all about, isn't it :-)
> 
> 
> > 
> > It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified 
> > field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full 
> > submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A 
> > perfect paradox, submission and freedom.
> 
> 
> Beautiful Dr., thanks for posting this great reminder.
>
Thank you. Two more faves: 
"You can argue with reality, and you'll only be wrong 100% of the time" - Byron 
Katie, and 
"The world is as you are, live unbounded awareness" - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread doctordumbass
For you? No clue. Once we get past the obvious, like keep breathing, it becomes 
different and subtler for each of us. That is why I suggested earlier that 
questioning authority is a good (vital?) idea. No one else can know what the 
"unified field" demands from anyone, except for themselves.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if 
> we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, 
> every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then 
> fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that?
> 
> To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, is 
> only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply by 
> conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn 
> that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. 
> 
> It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field 
> definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission 
> to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, 
> submission and freedom.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine 
> > Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions 
> > of the "Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally 
> > ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the 
> > "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities 
> > the way we like to fantasize that it does.
> > 
> > On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence 
> > that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make 
> > the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they 
> > have a funny way of showing it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the 
> > nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless 
> > birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. 
> > Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life 
> > with. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > > discussion for FFL.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: feste37 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge 
> > > of the unified field. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about 
> > > > any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - 
> > > > ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting 
> > > > our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) 
> > > > we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > > 
> > > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of 
> > > > the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving 
> > > > a crap about us and what we do. 
> > > > 
> > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if 
> we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, 
> every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then 
> fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that?
> 
> To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, is 
> only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply by 
> conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn 
> that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. 


That's what life is all about, isn't it :-)


> 
> It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field 
> definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission 
> to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, 
> submission and freedom.


Beautiful Dr., thanks for posting this great reminder.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are?





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we 
decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every 
time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto 
a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that?

To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, is 
only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply by 
conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn 
that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. 

It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field 
definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to 
it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, 
submission and freedom.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine 
> Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of 
> the "Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe 
> to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the "Unified Field" 
> doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to 
> fantasize that it does.
> 
> On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that 
> there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the 
> world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a 
> funny way of showing it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
> Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
> rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite 
> to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > discussion for FFL.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> > the unified field. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire 
> > > for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our 
> > > hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > 
> > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a 
> > > crap about us and what we do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread doctordumbass
Yeah, true, the "unified field" goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we 
decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every 
time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto 
a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that?

To say dismissively that the "unified field" doesn't give a crap about us, is 
only half right. When we discover what the "unified field" wants, simply by 
conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn 
that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. 

It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field 
definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to 
it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, 
submission and freedom.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine 
> Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of 
> the "Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe 
> to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the "Unified Field" 
> doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to 
> fantasize that it does.
> 
> On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that 
> there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the 
> world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a 
> funny way of showing it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
> Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
> rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite 
> to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree 
> > with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of 
> > discussion for FFL.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> > the unified field. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire 
> > > for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our 
> > > hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > > 
> > > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a 
> > > crap about us and what we do. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human 
> > > > > race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People 
> > > > > should sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > 
> > > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Utter nonsense not supported by the Vedas




 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the 
unified field. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any of 
> us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional 
> qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things 
> onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the 
> grace and forgiveness we seek.
> 
> If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> about us and what we do. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > 
> > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit 
> > > up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > 
> > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > 
> > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> > field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> > entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> > surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> > field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> > superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > 
> > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> > effectively neutralised.
> > 
> > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> >of individuals and society FAILED
> > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > 
> > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> > successes are the outliers in this business.
> >
> 
> Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
> chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
> spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should 
> not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on 
> this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you 
> shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too 
> many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous 
> grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
> All the Best,
> -Buck
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 

Nice one, Feste.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > 
> > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > >
> > 
> > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing 
> > for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee 
> > should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for 
> > so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact 
> > tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall 
> > receive.
> > All the Best,
> > -Buck
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other "vedic" writings - Divine Mother, 
Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the 
"Unified Field" as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to 
such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the "Unified Field" 
doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to 
fantasize that it does.

On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that 
there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world 
into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way 
of showing it.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to 
influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with 
> you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for 
> FFL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread doctordumbass
The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent 
Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and 
rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to 
influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with 
> you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for 
> FFL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of 
> the unified field. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any 
> > of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing 
> > emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for 
> > such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on 
> > to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek.
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> > Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> > about us and what we do. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should 
> > > > sit up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > 
> > > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > > 
> > > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > > 
> > > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the 
> > > magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic 
> > > fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors 
> > > except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The 
> > > external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents 
> > > a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does 
> > > not occur.'
> > > 
> > > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has 
> > > been effectively neutralised.
> > > 
> > > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> > >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> > >of individuals and society FAILED
> > > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > > 
> > > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The 
> > > spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.
> > >
> > 
> > Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and 
> > heart chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing 
> > for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee 
> > should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own 
> > progress on this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field 
> > within and you shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for 
> > so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact 
> > tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall 
> > receive.
> > All the Best,
> > -Buck
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with 
you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for 
FFL.





 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  
The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the 
unified field. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any of 
> us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional 
> qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things 
> onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the 
> grace and forgiveness we seek.
> 
> If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> about us and what we do. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > 
> > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit 
> > > up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > 
> > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > 
> > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> > field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> > entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> > surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> > field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> > superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > 
> > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> > effectively neutralised.
> > 
> > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> >of individuals and society FAILED
> > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > 
> > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> > successes are the outliers in this business.
> >
> 
> Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
> chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
> spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should 
> not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on 
> this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you 
> shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too 
> many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous 
> grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
> All the Best,
> -Buck
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread feste37
The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the 
unified field. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any of 
> us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional 
> qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things 
> onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the 
> grace and forgiveness we seek.
> 
> If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the 
> Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap 
> about us and what we do. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > 
> > > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race 
> > > and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit 
> > > up, particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> > 
> > So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field 
> > from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> > superconductor is related to meditation?
> > 
> > Here is some more detail to help you along:
> > 
> > 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> > which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> > field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> > entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> > surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> > field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> > superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> > 
> > If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> > that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> > negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> > generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> > that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and 
> > so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> > effectively neutralised.
> > 
> > 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> > 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> > 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> > 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
> >that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> > 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> > 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
> >of individuals and society FAILED
> > 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> > 
> > A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does 
> > not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> > successes are the outliers in this business.
> >
> 
> Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
> chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
> spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should 
> not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on 
> this.  Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you 
> shall then Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too 
> many, is about poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous 
> grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
> All the Best,
> -Buck
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
I've got news for you - the "Unified Field" doesn't give a crap about any of us 
or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional 
qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things 
onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the 
grace and forgiveness we seek.

If you don't believe me, and need "Vedic" confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga 
Vashistha to see what it says about the "Unified Field" giving a crap about us 
and what we do. 





 From: Buck 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> 
> > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and 
> > the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit up, 
> > particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > -Buck in the Dome
> 
> So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from 
> the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> superconductor is related to meditation?
> 
> Here is some more detail to help you along:
> 
> 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> 
> If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so 
> can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> effectively neutralised.
> 
> 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
>that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
>of individuals and society FAILED
> 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> 
> A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not 
> equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> successes are the outliers in this business.
>

Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should not 
let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this.  
Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then 
Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about 
poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness 
in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
All the Best,
-Buck 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-16 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> 
> > Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> > implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and 
> > the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit up, 
> > particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> > -Buck in the Dome
> 
> So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from 
> the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a 
> superconductor is related to meditation?
> 
> Here is some more detail to help you along:
> 
> 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at 
> which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic 
> field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are 
> entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a 
> surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic 
> field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the 
> superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.'
> 
> If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem 
> that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', 
> negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is 
> generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see 
> that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so 
> can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been 
> effectively neutralised.
> 
> 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
> 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
> 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
> 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
>that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
> 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
> 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
>of individuals and society FAILED
> 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED
> 
> A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not 
> equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
> successes are the outliers in this business.
>

Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart 
chakra together on this.  Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for 
spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise.  Thee should not 
let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this.  
Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then 
Know.  I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about 
poor spiritual epistemology.  There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness 
in the Unified Field.  Ask and you shall receive.
All the Best,
-Buck   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-15 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:

> Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and 
> the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit up, 
> particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> -Buck in the Dome

So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from 
the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor 
is related to meditation?

Here is some more detail to help you along:

'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which 
it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field 
within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely 
repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer 
about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made 
so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, 
and the Meissner effect does not occur.'

If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that 
if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all 
positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the 
domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these 
goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the 
spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised.

1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED
3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED
4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior 
   that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED
5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED
6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations 
   of individuals and society FAILED
7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED

A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not 
equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual 
successes are the outliers in this business.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-15 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Seems to me (advaita) vedaanta could be compared to quantum
> > mechanics whereas "lesser" truths like yoga, and stuff, could
> > be compared to classical mechanics??
> > 
> > For over 90 percent of human beans, quantum mechanics is almost
> > totally and absolute useless, whilst knowing the laws of classical
> > mechanics can be very useful in everyday life??
> > 
> > And for kindergarten level playing with laws of nature,
> > like Meissner effect (Yogic Flying) can be cool, but in
> > the real school kids have to stop playing and start learning
> > some serious stuff??
> >
> 
> Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
> implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and 
> the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit up, 
> particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
> -Buck in the Dome


Yep, let's all drag a giant superconducting magnet into the
dome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?

2013-04-15 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> Seems to me (advaita) vedaanta could be compared to quantum
> mechanics whereas "lesser" truths like yoga, and stuff, could
> be compared to classical mechanics??
> 
> For over 90 percent of human beans, quantum mechanics is almost
> totally and absolute useless, whilst knowing the laws of classical
> mechanics can be very useful in everyday life??
> 
> And for kindergarten level playing with laws of nature,
> like Meissner effect (Yogic Flying) can be cool, but in
> the real school kids have to stop playing and start learning
> some serious stuff??
>

Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual 
implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the 
whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff.  People should sit up, 
particularly when they meditate.  Everyone.  Seriously.
-Buck in the Dome