RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-09 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually that phrasing is ambiguous when it comes to something that's only speculative. It can mean either that you don't believe it exists, or that if it did exist, you'd be opposed to it. In the case of the death penalty, we know it exists, so I don't believe in it can only mean I'm opposed

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lengli...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:12 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi He

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists   If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote is, Reincarnation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread TurquoiseBee
If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote is, Reincarnation? We are opposed to it. From my side, I laughed at this in spite of the fact that I've always assumed that Reformed Buddhists would be the ones marching around in front of monasteries carrying protest

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread authfriend
Just to be picky, I don't believe in it can mean either I don't believe it exists or I'm opposed to it. If you're opposed to abortion, you might well say, I don't believe in abortion. Anyway, what I heard that he said was Reincarnation is for the ignorant, which is better than either.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread anartaxius
I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher 'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?' The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a spiritual point

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 5/8/2014 1:12 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote: Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Just as in the physical body of the embodied being is the process of childhood, youth, old age; similarly in the transmigration from one body to another the wise are never deluded. - BG

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 5/8/2014 1:22 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Try to find a justification for dedicating your life to the pursuit of enlightenment is life is *not* suffering. :-) It's not all about you, Barry. The Buddha's First Noble Truth is the truth of suffering. At first this seems to be something anyone

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread fleetwood_macncheese
There certainly seems to be something of us, existing beyond the body, and whatever that is, it doesn't care a whole lot about who we are, this time, or any other time, around. As important as we seem to ourselves, now, we are clearly disposable, in the service of that which is not. It is our

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 5/8/2014 3:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a spiritual point of view, exactly what does reincarnation mean? Maybe reincarnation means the soul or spirit of a person at death, taking on the body of another, and being

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread authfriend
In case anybody was confused, I was not suggesting that Reincarnation is for the ignorant was the only way he said it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I have heard he said it many different ways. (snip) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread fleetwood_macncheese
Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend it, and become aware of it, during our time as humans. So there must come a time when it is no longer *necessary* to continue to come back here, or anywhere else, though quite possibly a choice remains, even then, to

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread authfriend
I think by ignorant he meant not enlightened, not off the wheel. One of his better bons mots. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend it, and become aware of it, during our time as

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread steve.sundur
is that so? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher 'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread fleetwood_macncheese
This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is ignorant [of his basic nature] will continue, by necessity, to reincarnate, after which the ignorance is dispelled, incarnation may possibly continue to be an option. Is that what you meant?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread authfriend
Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in mind, though. Or at least it wasn't implied by that quip. Welcome back, by the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread LEnglish5
There's no distinction. I don't believe in it in this context is just the same as saying I don't believe in the death penalty even as people are sentenced to death. And it's just the same as the Buddhist monks protesting reincarnation in the cartoon. L ---In

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-08 Thread fleetwood_macncheese
Agreed, his bons-mottlement did not precisely cover such an eventuality. Thanks, I am happy to not be here again! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in mind, though. Or at least it wasn't