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Share, have you ever attended to someone dying? My guess is no based on your comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.: That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Carde, According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the entire US population. But they do appear to have many successful people in this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand. IMO, it shows that the Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field they choose to work in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country. If the family unit is in disarray, guess what would happen to the entire country? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote: I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff. In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Would you believe Russia is on top of this list? And, the USA is only on the 5th place. But the US has a secret weapon by offering Genius visas to the best and brightest from countries around the world. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html
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Emily, I haven't but I believe people who report a peaceful or blissful death. Do you think they're lying? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, have you ever attended to someone dying? My guess is no based on your comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.: That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Carde, According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the entire US population. But they do appear to have many successful people in this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand. IMO, it shows that the Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field they choose to work in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country. If the family unit is in disarray, guess what would happen to the entire country? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff. In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Would you believe Russia is on top of this list? And, the USA is only on the 5th place. But the US has a secret weapon by offering Genius visas to the best and brightest from countries around the world. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html
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Who have you heard of who has personally reported. Also, you have taken the conversation to a ludicrous place again with your trying to turn it into a case of lying. Nonsense, my dear, more nonsense. Waste of time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, I haven't but I believe people who report a peaceful or blissful death. Do you think they're lying? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share, have you ever attended to someone dying? My guess is no based on your comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.: That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Carde, According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the entire US population. But they do appear to have many successful people in this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand. IMO, it shows that the Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field they choose to work in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country. If the family unit is in disarray, guess what would happen to the entire country? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote: I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff. In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Would you believe Russia is on top of this list? And, the USA is only on the 5th place. But the US has a secret weapon by offering Genius visas to the best and brightest from
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Re: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. Share, this is *not* what you were talking about. You continually betray yourself in your own posts - why do you do this? Yet more absurd nonsense; words that mean nothing and go nowhere. Dig a little deeper, maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. I would think that families would simply not mention if the passing was rough. Actually I have heard of one such rough passing of a TMer so there has also been honesty about such. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he passed peacefully. The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming.
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Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about? On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:46 AM Re: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. Share, this is *not* what you were talking about. You continually betray yourself in your own posts - why do you do this? Yet more absurd nonsense; words that mean nothing and go nowhere. Dig a little deeper, maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. I would think that families would simply not mention if the passing was rough. Actually I have heard of one such rough passing of a TMer so there has also been honesty about such. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he passed peacefully. The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming.
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Emily, there's a fellow in FF who has shared his NDE. I said that I think the notices of blissful and or peaceful death are honest and since you and Ann disagreed, I asked if you thought the notices were lying. On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:37 AM Who have you heard of who has personally reported. Also, you have taken the conversation to a ludicrous place again with your trying to turn it into a case of lying. Nonsense, my dear, more nonsense. Waste of time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, I haven't but I believe people who report a peaceful or blissful death. Do you think they're lying? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share, have you ever attended to someone dying? My guess is no based on your comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.: That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
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Then he didn't die (near death doesn't count), did he? I didn't disagree - I didn't comment on that at all; that, Share, is a lie. *You* determined to subvert the conversation and brought up lying, as if that has anything to do with anything. Don't you see that the question itself is completely nonsensical? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, there's a fellow in FF who has shared his NDE. I said that I think the notices of blissful and or peaceful death are honest and since you and Ann disagreed, I asked if you thought the notices were lying. On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:37 AM Who have you heard of who has personally reported. Also, you have taken the conversation to a ludicrous place again with your trying to turn it into a case of lying. Nonsense, my dear, more nonsense. Waste of time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, I haven't but I believe people who report a peaceful or blissful death. Do you think they're lying? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:01 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: Share, have you ever attended to someone dying? My guess is no based on your comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.: That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
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I have no idea Share what you are talking about. You are talking gibberish based on a knowledge base of death and dying that appears to be zero, based on your comments. That's what I'm saying here. That's my point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about? On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:46 AM Re: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. Share, this is *not* what you were talking about. You continually betray yourself in your own posts - why do you do this? Yet more absurd nonsense; words that mean nothing and go nowhere. Dig a little deeper, maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. I would think that families would simply not mention if the passing was rough. Actually I have heard of one such rough passing of a TMer so there has also been honesty about such. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he passed peacefully. The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming.
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What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous? Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to him lied about how he died). Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Share wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about?
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I wrote: (snip) Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Just to add: It's as if the only way you know you exist is if you can see your words and your name on your computer screen.
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Judy, it's true, I trust those death notices I read because I don't see why people would lie about how the person passed. Others can trust or not as they wish. I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. There are many topics and posts on FFL that I ignore. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous? Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to him lied about how he died). Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Share wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about?
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Share, this is not a response to my post. Did you not read it? Or is this just one more attempt to avoid dealing with reality? Or is it the compulsion I mentioned to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING, even if it isn't the tiniest bit responsive, so you can pretend you're interacting with other people? What was the point of your post mentioning Castaneda? Share wrote: Judy, it's true, I trust those death notices I read because I don't see why people would lie about how the person passed. Others can trust or not as they wish. I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. There are many topics and posts on FFL that I ignore. What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous? Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to him lied about how he died). Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Share wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about?
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laughing, Judy, then why do you not only exchange posts with me? Why do you actually butt into my exchanges with others to do so?! And are you even interested in the topic?! On Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, this is not a response to my post. Did you not read it? Or is this just one more attempt to avoid dealing with reality? Or is it the compulsion I mentioned to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING, even if it isn't the tiniest bit responsive, so you can pretend you're interacting with other people? What was the point of your post mentioning Castaneda? Share wrote: Judy, it's true, I trust those death notices I read because I don't see why people would lie about how the person passed. Others can trust or not as they wish. I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. There are many topics and posts on FFL that I ignore. What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous? Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to him lied about how he died). Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Share wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about?
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Very hollow laughter, Share. You can't even write a coherent sentence. You've asked those (disingenuous) questions before, and you know what my answers are. But you're afraid to even try to answer my questions. What was the point of your post mentioning Castaneda? Share babbled dishonestly: laughing, Judy, then why do you not only exchange posts with me? Why do you actually butt into my exchanges with others to do so?! And are you even interested in the topic?! On Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:00 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Share, this is not a response to my post. Did you not read it? Or is this just one more attempt to avoid dealing with reality? Or is it the compulsion I mentioned to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING, even if it isn't the tiniest bit responsive, so you can pretend you're interacting with other people? What was the point of your post mentioning Castaneda? Share wrote: Judy, it's true, I trust those death notices I read because I don't see why people would lie about how the person passed. Others can trust or not as they wish. I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. There are many topics and posts on FFL that I ignore. What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous? Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to him lied about how he died). Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Share wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about?
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Judy, I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. You are of course entitled to your opinion about my posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I wrote: (snip) Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Just to add: It's as if the only way you know you exist is if you can see your words and your name on your computer screen.
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Yes, I'm aware of who you were conversing with. And yes, I sure am entitled to my opinion about your posting. Now, let's get back to what I asked you. You wrote to Barry: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. What was your point? That famous folks are more likely to have unpleasant deaths than plain folks, and therefore we should assume that reports of peaceful deaths of plain folks are always true? Share wrote: Judy, I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. You are of course entitled to your opinion about my posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I wrote: (snip) Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not. Just to add: It's as if the only way you know you exist is if you can see your words and your name on your computer screen.
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You crack me up, emnot. sounds too much like me, burning another bridge, in another meeting, during my working daze. Always got stuff done, though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I have no idea Share what you are talking about. You are talking gibberish based on a knowledge base of death and dying that appears to be zero, based on your comments. That's what I'm saying here. That's my point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about? On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:46 AM Re: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. Share, this is *not* what you were talking about. You continually betray yourself in your own posts - why do you do this? Yet more absurd nonsense; words that mean nothing and go nowhere. Dig a little deeper, maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. I would think that families would simply not mention if the passing was rough. Actually I have heard of one such rough passing of a TMer so there has also been honesty about such. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he passed peacefully. The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming.
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Yes, I was a high producer of high quality stuff myself, no question. On one of the larger projects I was on, the scheduler would invite me to meetings because I would say what needed to be said; everyone else was too scared. That's what happens when one can't deliver what one has promised. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You crack me up, emnot. sounds too much like me, burning another bridge, in another meeting, during my working daze. Always got stuff done, though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I have no idea Share what you are talking about. You are talking gibberish based on a knowledge base of death and dying that appears to be zero, based on your comments. That's what I'm saying here. That's my point. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or peaceful deaths. Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been about unfamous people. What do you think I'm talking about? On Thu, 10/17/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 17, 2013, 11:46 AM Re: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. Share, this is *not* what you were talking about. You continually betray yourself in your own posts - why do you do this? Yet more absurd nonsense; words that mean nothing and go nowhere. Dig a little deeper, maybe? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well we're talking about the death notices of plain folks, not famous ones. I would think that families would simply not mention if the passing was rough. Actually I have heard of one such rough passing of a TMer so there has also been honesty about such. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he passed peacefully. The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say they went out screaming.
