On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
For me, sitting with eyes closed is too much an indulgence in some way,
too self centered. Take the awareness out there and take a chance, even if
it means you fall on your face or
Vipassana or mindlullness is simple concentration on the breath with the goal
of calming the mind. The problem is the will-to-believe: if you don't believe
in the enlightenment tradition, you might as well take a nap on the bed, and
just try to relax and count sheep. When you take
The section about the relationship with the brain and the concept of
self is a fantastic condensation of neuro-research as it applies to our
sense of self. It challenges a lot of preconceptions, although I believe it
still falls a bit short of Sam's conclusions from it. The science is still
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I have been following the excellent
comments on this topic with delight. I loved this book, especially where it
helped me draw my own belief lines by disagreeing with it.
My feelings exactly. Thanks for taking
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Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the
self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get me excited with promises of more
inside. Whatever internal state I have
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Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the
self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get me
Barry,
Thanks for taking the time to high five me on points we shared and showing me
where you may be drawing different lines. I especially appreciated how your
articulated the creative flow state as it applies to writing. I hadn't thought
of it that way but now I see it. I thought it would
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
M: I did miss what you wrote before, so thanks for repeating yourself a bit. I
always enjoy your nature connection writing. I still have a bit of the
meditation junky in my in that I can enjoy 15 minutes just sitting in silence
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Barry,
Thanks for taking the time to high five me on points we shared and showing me
where you may be drawing different lines. I especially appreciated how your
articulated the creative flow state as it
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
But my experience with them is similar to what Harris said -- they taught
*not* by providing techniques to allow you to sneak up on unbounded,
selfless awareness by focusing
So do you two high fivers hang out on the Sam Harris forum at
samharris.org? It seems to be less bizzy than FFL. ;-)
On 09/18/2014 10:23 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Barry,
I get all that about enjoying life with eyes open. I don't do meditation much
anymore, and when I do, it, it is to calm me down,or get a few minutes of deep
rest. And yes, occasionally a deep transcending will occur.
But I will say the hours I spent dipping the cloth, sometimes days, weeks,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I get all that about enjoying life with eyes open. I don't do meditation much
anymore, and when I do, it, it is to calm me down,or get a few minutes of deep
rest. And yes, occasionally a deep transcending will occur.
But I
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
M: I did miss what you wrote before, so thanks for repeating yourself a bit. I
always enjoy your nature connection writing. I still have a bit of the
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Curtis
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris
I get all that about enjoying life with eyes open. I don't do meditation much
anymore, and when I do
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris
I get all that about enjoying life with eyes open. I don't do meditation
much anymore, and when I do, it, it is to calm me down,or get a few minutes of
deep rest. And yes, occasionally a deep transcending will occur.
But I
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I have been following the excellent comments on this topic with delight. I
loved this book, especially where it helped me draw my own belief lines by
disagreeing with it.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I have been following the excellent comments on this topic with delight. I
loved this book, especially where it helped me draw my own belief lines by
disagreeing with it.
Looks like about a 5 shot Americano rap. Tried a Starbuck's Clover
yet? ;-)
As you know I would agree with you that ranking spiritual experiences is
bogus. As I said the other day (as well as many other times) Maharishi
kinda confused folks with levels of enlightenment. In many simpler
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM, curtisdeltablues@...
mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I have been following the excellent comments on
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Looks like about a 5 shot Americano rap. Tried a Starbuck's Clover yet? ;-)
*Non sequitur.*
As you know I would agree with you that ranking spiritual experiences is
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Looks like about a 5 shot Americano rap. Tried a Starbuck's Clover yet? ;-)
M: Funny. I have Internet at home where my instruments live so I don't hang out
at coffee shops. In between computer time I am very noisy! Italian Bialetti
ha-ha - caffeined.
I agree that the 'levels' thing can be really confusing, but I do like that it
shows first the lighting inside, spreading to the outside, then illuminating
everything, with perception changing appropriately along the way, aka TC
evolving to CC, evolving to UC. However I
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
ha-ha - caffeined.
I agree that the 'levels' thing can be really confusing, but I do like
that it shows first the lighting inside, spreading to the outside, then
Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the
self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get me excited with promises of more
inside. Whatever internal state I have seems to do the job nicely, the bigger
task of my life is actualizing
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the
self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get me excited with promises of more
inside. Whatever internal state I have
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
Curtis writes (in part):
I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the
self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get
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