Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-22 Thread Share Long
thanks, Carde, this is a gem of knowledge I didn't know.





On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:36 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com 
cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
FWIW, Wikipedia:

Tamas is also a Guna or Quality that is much needed to counter Evil, as an 
example Bhairava Incarnation of Lord Shiva is a Tamasic Avatar, and Lord Shiva 
Himself out of the Trinity represents Tamas, where Shiva drinks the poison of 
his devotees to get rid of their sin, hence absorbing the Tamo-Guna of 
devotees, in Devi worship, there are many goddesses which incarnate within the 
Shakta sect of Hindusim where goddess are offered animal sacrifice.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-21 Thread Share Long
noozguru, well I would speculate that Shiva is sattvic and so might help 
alleviate the tamasic quality of kapha imbalance.





On Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:15 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
Yes from an ayurvedic standpoint.  One of the last questions I asked my late 
tantra guru was about why would Shiva mantras be pacifying  for kapha?  But he 
didn't know ayurveda and if he did would have probably been able to sidestep 
his heart problem.

On 01/18/2014 11:28 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
noozguru, you have said a few times that TM mantras are good for pitta types. 
Maybe not so good for kapha or vata...






On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
 
  
I'm sure he did many times.  TM doesn't work for everybody.  He was into 
enough other things to try anyway.

On 01/18/2014 09:03 AM, Share Long
  wrote:

  
noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!






On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
 
  
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably wondering why 
others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM for years but claims to 
have only transcended twice.  Huh?

On 01/15/2014
  04:08 PM, Rick
  Archer wrote:

  
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at 
the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
 
  
Bhairitu,
 
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, a 
state of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear that 
meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into the waking 
state.  Thus, they appear to see or hallucinate visions in conjunction with 
ordinary activities during the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very 
clearly, in the waking state. Although since they’re in an enlightened 
state, or whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really the waking state. 
It’s what Maharishi predicted in his 7-states model: refined, “celestial” 
perception. Subtle or “celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel 
dimension. Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not 
sufficiently refined.









Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-21 Thread Bhairitu
I look at mantras scientifically as resonance patterns which have a 
certain influence on the nervous system and hence the rest of the body.  
They can particularly have an influence on the autonomic nervous 
system.  The spiritual explanations are pretty much to make things 
understandable to simple non educated people.  The whole Hindu pantheon 
was invented for that.  It's really just physics.


On 01/21/2014 11:17 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, well I would speculate that Shiva is sattvic and so might 
help alleviate the tamasic quality of kapha imbalance.




On Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:15 PM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Yes from an ayurvedic standpoint.  One of the last questions I asked 
my late tantra guru was about why would Shiva mantras be pacifying  
for kapha?  But he didn't know ayurveda and if he did would have 
probably been able to sidestep his heart problem.


On 01/18/2014 11:28 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, you have said a few times that TM mantras are good for 
pitta types. Maybe not so good for kapha or vata...




On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'm sure he did many times. TM doesn't work for everybody.  He was 
into enough other things to try anyway.


On 01/18/2014 09:03 AM, Share Long wrote:

noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!



On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably 
wondering why others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM 
for years but claims to have only transcended twice.  Huh?


On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of 
*jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on 
Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

Bhairitu,
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to 
hynogogia, a state of consciousness in between sleep and waking. 
 It would appear that meditation, for some people, may enhance or 
extend hynogogia into the waking state.  Thus, they appear to see 
or hallucinate visions in conjunction with ordinary activities 
during the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, 
very clearly, in the waking state. Although since they’re in an 
enlightened state, or whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not 
really the waking state. It’s what Maharishi predicted in his 
7-states model: refined, “celestial” perception. Subtle or 
“celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. 
Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not 
sufficiently refined.

















Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Dear Bhairitu; I absolutely agree. For instance, I find the vibratory affect of 
the maha saraswati mantra brings transcendental consciousness forward 
throughout the energy fields of the human form. The Gayatri maha mantra 
polishes marma points and chakras brightening them up and gets them spinning 
right, and the Mrtyunjaya mantra facilitates the embodiment on earth of the 
Purusha of the Unified Field in the architecture of the human subtle system, 
and I don't even know what any of these mantras mean. I'm just a guy from Iowa. 
It is just my experience. Each employed like we meditate with the sidhis for 
periods of time makes a fabulous meditation.  
 That in fact was the point of Maharishi's vedic science as modern science, 
employing recitation of the sound value of slokas and mantras as his third 
technique behind TM and the Patanjali yoga sutras. Either vocal intonation or 
with just moving tongue and lips or mentally silent, creating the vibration of 
healing spirituality in the whole central nervous system towards creating 
Heaven on Earth within the heart of the human nervous system makes a fabulous 
spiritual meditation.  Is time well spent. -Buck

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-18 Thread Share Long
noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!





On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably wondering why 
others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM for years but claims to 
have only transcended twice.  Huh?

On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

  
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the 
Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
 
  
Bhairitu,
 
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, a state 
of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear that 
meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into the waking 
state.  Thus, they appear to see or hallucinate visions in conjunction with 
ordinary activities during the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very clearly, 
in the waking state. Although since they’re in an enlightened state, or 
whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really the waking state. It’s what 
Maharishi predicted in his 7-states model: refined, “celestial” perception. 
Subtle or “celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. 
Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not sufficiently 
refined.



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-18 Thread Bhairitu
I'm sure he did many times.  TM doesn't work for everybody.  He was into 
enough other things to try anyway.


On 01/18/2014 09:03 AM, Share Long wrote:

noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!



On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably 
wondering why others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM 
for years but claims to have only transcended twice.  Huh?


On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of 
*jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on 
Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

Bhairitu,
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, 
a state of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would 
appear that meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend 
hynogogia into the waking state.  Thus, they appear to see or 
hallucinate visions in conjunction with ordinary activities during 
the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very 
clearly, in the waking state. Although since they’re in an 
enlightened state, or whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really 
the waking state. It’s what Maharishi predicted in his 7-states 
model: refined, “celestial” perception. Subtle or “celestial” beings 
are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. Most people just can’t 
see them because their perception is not sufficiently refined.









Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-18 Thread Share Long
noozguru, you have said a few times that TM mantras are good for pitta types. 
Maybe not so good for kapha or vata...





On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  
I'm sure he did many times.  TM doesn't work for everybody.  He was into enough 
other things to try anyway.

On 01/18/2014 09:03 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!






On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
 
  
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably wondering why 
others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM for years but claims to 
have only transcended twice.  Huh?

On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer
  wrote:

  
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the 
Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
 
  
Bhairitu,
 
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, a state 
of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear that 
meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into the waking 
state.  Thus, they appear to see or hallucinate visions in conjunction with 
ordinary activities during the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very clearly, 
in the waking state. Although since they’re in an enlightened state, or 
whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really the waking state. It’s what 
Maharishi predicted in his 7-states model: refined, “celestial” perception. 
Subtle or “celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. 
Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not sufficiently 
refined.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-18 Thread Bhairitu
Yes from an ayurvedic standpoint.  One of the last questions I asked my 
late tantra guru was about why would Shiva mantras be pacifying  for 
kapha?  But he didn't know ayurveda and if he did would have probably 
been able to sidestep his heart problem.


On 01/18/2014 11:28 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, you have said a few times that TM mantras are good for pitta 
types. Maybe not so good for kapha or vata...




On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:19 AM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'm sure he did many times.  TM doesn't work for everybody.  He was 
into enough other things to try anyway.


On 01/18/2014 09:03 AM, Share Long wrote:

noozguru, did your friend ever consider having his TM checked?!



On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:33 AM, Bhairitu 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably 
wondering why others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM 
for years but claims to have only transcended twice.  Huh?


On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of 
*jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on 
Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

Bhairitu,
IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to 
hynogogia, a state of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It 
would appear that meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend 
hynogogia into the waking state.  Thus, they appear to see or 
hallucinate visions in conjunction with ordinary activities during 
the day.
The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very 
clearly, in the waking state. Although since they’re in an 
enlightened state, or whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not 
really the waking state. It’s what Maharishi predicted in his 
7-states model: refined, “celestial” perception. Subtle or 
“celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. 
Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not 
sufficiently refined.













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-16 Thread Bhairitu
Not only that the people having these experiences are probably wondering 
why others aren't.  I have a friend who has been doing TM for years but 
claims to have only transcended twice.  Huh?


On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:


*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *jr_...@yahoo.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on 
Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014


Bhairitu,

IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, 
a state of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear 
that meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into 
the waking state.  Thus, they appear to see or hallucinate visions in 
conjunction with ordinary activities during the day.


The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very 
clearly, in the waking state. Although since they’re in an enlightened 
state, or whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really the waking 
state. It’s what Maharishi predicted in his 7-states model: refined, 
“celestial” perception. Subtle or “celestial” beings are all around 
us, or in a parallel dimension. Most people just can’t see them 
because their perception is not sufficiently refined.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Jackson
I know some people like that - they continue to do TM because they know its 
valuable mainly cause they believe M was enlightened and they think they'll 
get there if they do what he said do

On Thu, 1/16/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the 
Gas Pump - 01/14/2014
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 5:05 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
   
   
 Not only that
 the people having these
   experiences are probably wondering why others
 aren't.  I have a
   friend who has been doing TM for years but claims to
 have only
   transcended twice.  Huh?
 
   
 
   On 01/15/2014 04:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
 
 
    
   
   
 
  
   
 
   From:
   FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
 
   Sent: Wednesday, January 15,
 2014 2:50 PM
 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]
 RE: John
   Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at
 the Gas Pump -
   01/14/2014 
 
   
  
      
   
 
   
 Bhairitu, 
    
 IMO,
 these experiences of celestial
 beings may be
 due to hynogogia, a state of
 consciousness in
 between sleep and waking.  It would
 appear that
 meditation, for some people, may
 enhance or
 extend hynogogia into the waking
 state.  Thus,
 they appear to see or hallucinate
 visions in
 conjunction with ordinary activities
 during the
 day. 
 The
 folks I referred to in the interview
 see them
 all the time, very clearly, in the
 waking state.
 Although since they’re in an
 enlightened state,
 or whatever you’d like to call it,
 it’s not
 really the waking state. It’s what
 Maharishi
 predicted in his 7-states model:
 refined,
 “celestial” perception. Subtle
 or “celestial”
 beings are all around us, or in a
 parallel
 dimension. Most people just can’t
 see them
 because their perception is not
 sufficiently
 refined. 
   
 
   
 
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:24 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas 
Pump - 01/14/2014

 

  

Hey Rick,

 

I watched this interview with great interest.  The topics were fascinating.  
Specifically, you guys mentioned that there a few people in Fairfield, IA who 
have reached cosmic consciousness.  It would be a great show if you can 
interview these guys to get a personal perspective of their experience.

 

Already have. start from the bottom of http://batgap.com/guests/ for some of 
them. But several other very interesting ones coming up in March and April.

 

Keep up the great work.  We enjoyed this interview enormously.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread Bhairitu
We've discussed such celestial being experiences on FFL.  They are a 
very much a part of meditation but discussed more in other paths than 
TM.  However even in those paths you deal with them the same and don't 
pay much attention to them.  The theory is you are seeing beings who 
exist in an alternate universe and they may not see you.


On 01/14/2014 08:38 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


In the interview, Rick said that some people in the TM community can 
see subtle beings who are present in places where people are present. 
 That sure sounds like angels to me.  :)



Also, can you name the people in FFL who have reached cosmic 
consciousness and beyond?  That should be very interesting.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, a state 
of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear that meditation, 
for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into the waking state.  Thus, 
they appear to see or hallucinate visions in conjunction with ordinary 
activities during the day.
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread Bhairitu
Hallucinatory visions are unstable and easy to tell.  These can be very 
stable though they will eventually fade out. Point is that many folks 
even back in the 1970s noticed they weren't actually coming out of 
meditation anymore.  The transcendent stayed with them into activity.  
MMY tended to confuse the issue probably to extract more money from folks.


On 01/15/2014 12:49 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, 
a state of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear 
that meditation, for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into 
the waking state.  Thus, they appear to see or hallucinate visions in 
conjunction with ordinary activities during the day.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia






RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jr_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the 
Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

 

  

Bhairitu,

 

IMO, these experiences of celestial beings may be due to hynogogia, a state 
of consciousness in between sleep and waking.  It would appear that meditation, 
for some people, may enhance or extend hynogogia into the waking state.  Thus, 
they appear to see or hallucinate visions in conjunction with ordinary 
activities during the day.

The folks I referred to in the interview see them all the time, very clearly, 
in the waking state. Although since they’re in an enlightened state, or 
whatever you’d like to call it, it’s not really the waking state. It’s what 
Maharishi predicted in his 7-states model: refined, “celestial” perception. 
Subtle or “celestial” beings are all around us, or in a parallel dimension. 
Most people just can’t see them because their perception is not sufficiently 
refined.



RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-15 Thread jr_esq
Rick,
 

 We've discussed the existence of higher dimensions here in the forum often 
enough.  It is generally acknowledged by physicists that these dimensions may 
be curled up within space-time itself.  But they have not been able to find or 
discover them.
 

 Given our knowledge of MMY's idea that everything in the universe is based on 
consciousness, I made a proposal that the higher dimensions may refer to the 7 
states of consciousness in addition to the space-time continuum.  If you add up 
all of the dimensions (7 states of consciousness plus the 4 dimensions of space 
and time), it would total to 11 dimensions, which are the amount of dimensions 
that scientists are using in their quantum string theory.
 

 If this proposal is true, then it is possible these celestial beings do 
exist in the higher dimensions which the enlightened humans can perceive in 
their own mind and consciousness.  Perhaps, this was the point that Hagelin was 
talking about when you brought up the subject of subtle beings.
 

 I have other points of interest in that interview.  But I'll end it here for 
brevity sake.
 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-14 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 1/14/2014 4:09 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
*/I sometimes think that almost everyone thinks that everyone else is 
getting more nookie than they are. :-)/*


Well, that is something to think about, but it's more fun to actually be 
getting it.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Jackson
This was 85-87 and at least the students at MIU at the time knew no bounds - 
some of the staff too, but they watched us closer than the students - Bill 
Sands was always nosing around so you had to step lively to get away with stuff

On Tue, 1/14/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas 
Pump - 01/14/2014
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 10:09 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson 
 wrote:
 
  Most everybody got more at MIU than I did, but that was
 true everywhere I went, so it didn't bother me. One of
 the first things I saw at MIU after I had been sent to pick
 some big wig up at the airport in Cedar Rapids was returning
 to campus about 9:30, 10:00 pm and as I entered campus I
 watched this guy pull up on a motorcycle, park right outside
 the ground floor window at the girl's dorm, window
 opens, beautiful blonde German girl and even more beautiful
 American brunette girl, both grinning from ear to ear help
 the guy climb in over the window sill, window closes,
 curtain closes and he was in for the night.
  
  I pulled on past and congratulated him in my mind and
 realized it was a different MIU than the one I had heard
 about through the True Blue Ru's.
 
 I sometimes think that almost
 everyone thinks that everyone else is getting more nookie
 than they are. :-)
 
 The thing is, depending on the era you're talking about,
 in the early (pre-1978) TMO, it was possibly true. It was,
 after all, the Seventies. Post-pill and pre-AIDS and pretty
 damned loose. I was on non-gender-segregated ATR courses at
 Cobb Mountain where *most* of the participants (all single)
 were gettin' laid pretty much every night. The joint was
 rockin' more than Haight-Ashbury was back in its heyday.
 :-)
 
 But on ATR courses it was teacher-to-teacher sex, not
 teacher-to-student sex. There is a difference, and a line
 there that many (including myself) never crossed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-14 Thread Bhairitu
Rick probably already has interviewed them.  And there are probably a 
few on FFL who have achieved CC and beyond too.  What are you expecting: 
angels singing and manifestations of flowers? :-D


On 01/14/2014 06:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Hey Rick,


I watched this interview with great interest.  The topics were 
fascinating.  Specifically, you guys mentioned that there a few people 
in Fairfield, IA who have reached cosmic consciousness.  It would be a 
great show if you can interview these guys to get a personal 
perspective of their experience.



Keep up the great work.  We enjoyed this interview enormously.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: John Hagelin: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 01/14/2014

2014-01-14 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 In the interview, Rick said that some people in the TM community can see 
subtle beings who are present in places where people are present.  That sure 
sounds like angels to me.  :)
 

 Also, can you name the people in FFL who have reached cosmic consciousness and 
beyond?  That should be very interesting.