Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
It is completely OK to sign an Agreement.Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote:> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > wrote:> > >> > > --- Ingegerd wrote:> > > >> > > > I know TM-Teachers that really want to participate the Course, and > > > > has never touched any other spiritual leader, than MMY. But they > > can > > > > not go, because they have to be accepted by the national Course > > > > Office, and to sign a stupid Agreement Form with the TMO, which > > they > > > > do not want to sign. > > > > > > What is in the Agreement Form that makes it so onerous to sign?> > > > It is one made for Norway - I do not know about other countries.> > Ingegerd> >> > So, have you already given us a translation?I do not have the translation in english - . It is a one-page agreement form - which says the usual stuff - that MGANL have all the rights to teach out MMY Vedic Science incl. Transcendental Meditation, and that all other Agreements signed between TMO and the TM-Teacher counts as well.The Agreement can be cancelled of both parts - both the TM-Teacher and the TMO in Norway (a board where both TM-Teachers and Sidhas can be members)The TM-Teacher is not allowed to talk about how the organisation is runned incl. finances - and promise to be loyal to the organisations goal and how it is runned.These are the main points.Ingegerd> Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
--- demaris4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In any case, the numbers in the dome under the "free > admission" plan are triple what they > are at $100 a month...hmm. Well this is obviously a very big problem. Please bring it to Bevan's attention so he may correct the situation by tripling the dome fee until we have 100% compliance with MMY thinking. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well we all know the course is working. Geez, > hurricane Chris fizzled > out. No, that was me ;-) > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
Well we all know the course is working. Geez, hurricane Chris fizzled out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
On Aug 3, 2006, at 6:28 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:02 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: If they would've charged, there would've been next to no one attending. On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:32 PM, feste37 wrote: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer. But at least they could have an accurate head count and know where they stand. I'd guess we're talking 300 to 500 max. Actually I'm surprised given the current setup including experience sharing with ole M. One would think people would show up just for the opportunity. People just don't seem to care. Apparently used mantra peddlers are right up there with used car salesmen... How's that compassion meditation technique coming, Vaj? Quite well thanks! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:55 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:02 PM, sparaig wrote: But at least they could have an accurate head count and know where they stand. I'd guess we're talking 300 to 500 max. How funny! No need to guess; It's between 1,000 and 1,100. No, if they had to pay a full course fee. A "freebee" gives you evidence in the opposite direction.This is an interesting point for a couple of reasons. One is that really, truly, M. has to face the music: his movement has moved on. Another way of looking at it: his catalytic effect as being one of the first people to bring the idea of non-sectarian gnosis/jnana to many people, is at it's end phase. Will he cling to the dregs and the money trip or will he go off into seclusion for further realization/catalysis? It will depend where his attachments lie.Nice thing is, this opportunity could give closure for those who also realize the game is up and just need some last contact to end it nicely. Those that cling will remain, like fleas clinging to the Golden Fleece.But make no mistake: this is a watershed moment, this last 'call to coherence'. If M. remains, lingering over his empire, it's clear where the attachments lie. This signals the end of the movement as we knew it. It doesn't take a rishi to see that. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:02 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If they would've charged, there would've been next to no one attending. On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:32 PM, feste37 wrote: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer. But at least they could have an accurate head count and know where they stand. I'd guess we're talking 300 to 500 max. Actually I'm surprised given the current setup including experience sharing with ole M. One would think people would show up just for the opportunity. People just don't seem to care. Apparently used mantra peddlers are right up there with used car salesmen... __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
In a message dated 8/3/06 12:28:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the > number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular > interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they > think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some > time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized > for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering > something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge > something, people don't value what you offer. > Not necessarily tue that people don't value things unless you charge. This is a case of offering something great, but too late. People have been burned and disappointed for decades. Many are wary or uninterested by now. In addition, the price of TM and affiliated services like jyotish, yagyas and ayurvedic treatment are rather expensive - not just "something" being charge, but a lot. The effects may be worth the money, but I suspect that people do value and would partake of these services more if they were more affordable.> > > > The last TMO course I attended was mainly a high sales pitch for all the other stuff. Ayurveda, Jyotish, MVVT, etc etc. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
In a message dated 8/3/06 11:55:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If they would've charged, there would've been next to no one attending. On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:32 PM, feste37 wrote: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer. Messages in this topic (8) Reply (via Exactly __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
Bingo. I would really be interested in seeing, though, how many would come to a course they charged for. And if there was still some discrepancy in the numbers, although it would probably be moot either way since probably so few would be there. Sal --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If they would've charged, there would've been next to no one attending. On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:32 PM, feste37 wrote: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
If they would've charged, there would've been next to no one attending.On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:32 PM, feste37 wrote:The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES!
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BREATHTAKING EXPERIENCES! on 8/3/06 11:32 AM, feste37 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for this discrepancy between the number registered and the number attending is that the course is free. People who have no particular interest in going to the dome are getting their badges updated because they think that perhaps, maybe, they might want to put in an appearance at some time in the future. But mostly they don't go. The movement is always criticized for being too much concerned with money, but now they are offering something of value for nothing, it becomes clear that unless you charge something, people don't value what you offer. Some people are getting badges because they feel it would be interesting to see if they’re allowed to get one. The Course Office is pulling all sorts of strange, forgotten old things out of their files and inquiring about them. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
