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Steve, they've released her from the hospital so she must be ok. Left eye bruised shut with a cut above it. Her left hand needed stitches too. In a smaller car, she'd be lots worse off. On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:13 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote: Oh my, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she recovers fully.
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It's ok, Steve. it just means I have to type fast and keep the posts short. On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:14 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote: I wonder what that could be. I'll have to pay closer attention to what happens when I post.
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I wonder what that could be. I'll have to pay closer attention to what happens when I post.
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Oh my, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she recovers fully.
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Steve, my sister was in a head on collision today and I've been focused on that. She's ok but it was scary. On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote: Hi Share, Just checking in for a minute. But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger Games II. Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00. I found it boring, with uninspired acting. IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip it. That goes for Gravity as well. Another boring ass movie IMHO. Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis. I don't know if it existed, but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist. Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games. Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.
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Steve, when I'm replying to your posts, a spinning thingie appears and my reply disappears! On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote: Hi Share, Just checking in for a minute. But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger Games II. Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00. I found it boring, with uninspired acting. IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip it. That goes for Gravity as well. Another boring ass movie IMHO. Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis. I don't know if it existed, but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist. Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games. Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.
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Any relation? LoL! An Iowa attorney, Robert Allan Wright, got one his clients, Linda Putz, to put up money in order to get another client some "Nigerian inheritance" money. It just doesn't get any funnier than this! "Please, people, refrain from the Iowa jokes. Lawyers in Iowa aren't the only ones who fall for Nigerian email scams; it's more common than you might think among attorneys." Really? Really? Good grief. What a moron. Everyone knows Nigeria isn't ruled by a president; it has a prince! LoL! Read more: 'Lawyer Falls For Nigerian Inheritance Scam, Gets Suspended' http://abovethelaw.com/2013/12/lawyer-falls-for-nigerian-inheritance-scam-gets-suspended/ On 12/6/2013 8:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. > > And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. > > And also, for me, likely a form of escape. > > I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. > > But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization /I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda "taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither. /
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Is there a rhinoceros in the room? Everything is not as it appears. Ludwig Hieronymus Kashmir Wittgenstein is widely thought to be the greatest philosopher of the 20th century and his philosophical insights have a profound and incalculable significance for many different areas of human endeavor. Wittgenstein's entire work is predicated on the question of the nature of language. He argued that the true meaning of all words is not to be found in any dictionary but in a golden casket kept in an underground vault somewhere in County Cork, Ireland by highly-evolved little green people from the Canis Major dwarf galaxy. Read more: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein On 12/6/2013 10:53 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: This situation is nicely summed up by a story told by Carl Sagan: A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity! "Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon. "Where's the dragon?" you ask. "Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon." You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints. "Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air." Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire. "Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless." You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible. "Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work. Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk swallow for why no physical evidence exists.
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I watched the BBC America version last night and it seemed to be targeted at teen audiences. It was a about a cut above some of the Asylum films that are on Syfy. On 12/06/2013 06:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. > > And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. > > And also, for me, likely a form of escape. > > I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. > > But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization /I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda "taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither. /
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This situation is nicely summed up by a story told by Carl Sagan: A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity! "Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon. "Where's the dragon?" you ask. "Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon." You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints. "Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air." Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire. "Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless." You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible. "Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work. Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk swallow for why no physical evidence exists.
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Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk swallow for why no physical evidence exists. On Fri, 12/6/13, TurquoiseB wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 2:08 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. > > And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. > > And also, for me, likely a form of escape. > > I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. > > But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're great tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda "taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.
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Wow, Steve, I think Neo just sent 2 posts before I even hit Send button! More later. On Friday, December 6, 2013 6:47 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization
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I admit that I am fascinated by Atlantis subject matter. I tend to gobble up books on the subject. And yes, pretty much the tales end up the same - evil overcoming good and the place gets destroyed. But in most cases it took thousands of years for that to happen. Even taking into account the possibility of three different cataclysmic events. So, I'm thinking, hey, they did pretty good if they were able to hold it together for long periods of time like that. I mean the US of A is a little over 200 years, and look at the divisions we have.
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It seems that all *great* civilizations are doomed to collapse. Maybe the Chinese will be the exception to that! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:56 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The 1961 movie "Atlantis, the Lost Continent" was a warning about technology going out of control. I don't know if that is the tract this version will go down. On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote: >No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! > > > > > > >On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: >> >> Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. > >It was like watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis." > >Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for >So-crates to appear. :-) > > > >
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The 1961 movie "Atlantis, the Lost Continent" was a warning about technology going out of control. I don't know if that is the tract this version will go down. On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote: No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: > > Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis." Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
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On 12/05/2013 11:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Up next in my TV queue after "Bron-Broen 2" is "Orange Is The New Black." I've been hearing good things about it from people I trust. It's by the same people who created "Weeds." I watched maybe 6-8 episodes of "Orange Is the New Black" but that was back in the summer when I started having problems getting an HD stream out of Netflix which is no longer a problem now that I use Chromecast. I also thought Kenji was milking the storyline a bit much to deliver the number episodes Netflix wanted. I still like the 6-8 episode model that foreign networks use. Most US showrunners start creating filler episodes to get to 13. Netflix also release a trailer for the second season of Lilyhammer. Funny thing, after cutting the cable I have more to watch than I had before cutting it.
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Our library has The Tudors and as much as I like Rhys Meyers, I kind of creeped out by Henry VIII. However have thoroughly enjoyed Phillippa Gregory's novels about the various wives. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:57 PM, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 1st and Ferdinand 2nd: http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in Spain, directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster Televisión Española. Can you get it? In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save "The Tudors" LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's daughter, so it gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of the woods). Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: "She reorganized the governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous debt her brother had left behind" [Wiki} (Delivered under NEO sufferance & torture)
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No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: > > Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis." Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
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However if anyone else wants to check it out the first episode is available on the BBCAmerica.com web site. On 12/05/2013 10:57 AM, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 1st and Ferdinand 2nd: http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in Spain, directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster Televisión Española. Can you get it? In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save "The Tudors" LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's daughter, so it gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of the woods). Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: "She reorganized the governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous debt her brother had left behind" [Wiki} (Delivered under NEO sufferance & torture)