Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Share Long
Steve, they've released her from the hospital so she must be ok. Left eye 
bruised shut with a cut above it. Her left hand needed stitches too. In a 
smaller car, she'd be lots worse off.  





On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:13 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Oh my, I'm sorry to hear that.  I hope she recovers fully.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Share Long
It's ok, Steve. it just means I have to type fast and keep the posts short.





On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:14 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
I wonder what that could be.  I'll have to pay closer attention to what happens 
when I post.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread steve.sundur
I wonder what that could be.  I'll have to pay closer attention to what happens 
when I post.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread steve.sundur
Oh my, I'm sorry to hear that.  I hope she recovers fully.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Share Long
Steve, my sister was in a head on collision today and I've been focused on 
that. She's ok but it was scary. 





On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Hi Share,

Just checking in for a minute.  But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger 
Games II.  Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00.  I found it 
boring, with uninspired acting.  IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip 
it.

That goes for Gravity as well.  Another boring ass movie IMHO.

Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis.  I don't know if it existed, 
but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist.

Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games.

Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Share Long
Steve, when I'm replying to your posts, a spinning thingie appears and my reply 
disappears!





On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Hi Share,

Just checking in for a minute.  But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger 
Games II.  Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00.  I found it 
boring, with uninspired acting.  IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip 
it.

That goes for Gravity as well.  Another boring ass movie IMHO.

Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis.  I don't know if it existed, 
but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist.

Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games.

Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Richard J. Williams

Any relation? LoL!

An Iowa attorney, Robert Allan Wright, got one his clients, Linda Putz, 
to put up money in order to get another client some "Nigerian 
inheritance" money. It just doesn't get any funnier than this!


"Please, people, refrain from the Iowa jokes. Lawyers in Iowa aren't the 
only ones who fall for Nigerian email scams; it's more common than you 
might think among attorneys."


Really? Really? Good grief. What a moron. Everyone knows Nigeria isn't 
ruled by a president; it has a prince! LoL!


Read more:

'Lawyer Falls For Nigerian Inheritance Scam, Gets Suspended'
http://abovethelaw.com/2013/12/lawyer-falls-for-nigerian-inheritance-scam-gets-suspended/

On 12/6/2013 8:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures 
ones interest.

>
> And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially 
the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - 
that element of fantasy.

>
> And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
>
> I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the 
existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it.

>
> But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James 
Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean 
(and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any 
evidence of the fabled civilization


/I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the 
existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does 
seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not 
one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our 
modern recorded history.


I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the 
tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ 
tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were 
-- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But 
they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda 
"taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me.


Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that 
they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal 
powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking 
about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-)


Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and 
even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to 
see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.




/






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Richard J. Williams

Is there a rhinoceros in the room? Everything is not as it appears.

Ludwig Hieronymus Kashmir Wittgenstein is widely thought to be the 
greatest philosopher of the 20th century and his philosophical insights 
have a profound and incalculable significance for many different areas 
of human endeavor. Wittgenstein's entire work is predicated on the 
question of the nature of language.


He argued that the true meaning of all words is not to be found in any 
dictionary but in a golden casket kept in an underground vault somewhere 
in County Cork, Ireland by highly-evolved little green people from the 
Canis Major dwarf galaxy.


Read more:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein

On 12/6/2013 10:53 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:


This situation is nicely summed up by a story told by Carl Sagan:

A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage


Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd
want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been
innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real
evidence. What an opportunity!


"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and
see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon.


"Where's the dragon?" you ask.


"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to
mention that she's an invisible dragon."


You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture
the dragon's footprints.


"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."


Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.


"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."


You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.


"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't
stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with
a special explanation of why it won't work.


Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal,
floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If
there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable
experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say
that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis
is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that
cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically
worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in
exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down
to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new 
agey channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a 
much more high vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible 
physical vibration, so when it vanished, it literally vanished - 
convenient excuse that LOTS of folk swallow for why no physical 
evidence exists.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Bhairitu
I watched the BBC America version last night and it seemed to be 
targeted at teen audiences. It was a about a cut above some of the 
Asylum films that are on Syfy.


On 12/06/2013 06:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures 
ones interest.

>
> And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially 
the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - 
that element of fantasy.

>
> And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
>
> I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the 
existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it.

>
> But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James 
Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean 
(and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any 
evidence of the fabled civilization


/I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the 
existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does 
seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not 
one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our 
modern recorded history.


I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the 
tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ 
tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were 
-- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But 
they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda 
"taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me.


Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that 
they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal 
powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking 
about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-)


Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and 
even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to 
see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.




/






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread anartaxius
This situation is nicely summed up by a story told by Carl Sagan:
 A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage 
 

 Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check 
it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over 
the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity! 
 

 "Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, 
empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon. 
 

 "Where's the dragon?" you ask. 
 

 "Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that 
she's an invisible dragon." 
 

 You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's 
footprints. 
 

 "Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air." 
 

 Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire. 
 

 "Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless." 
 

 You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible. 
 

 "Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so 
on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why 
it won't work. 
 

 Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon 
who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my 
contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it 
mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis 
is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, 
assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they 
may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking 
you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey 
channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high 
vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so 
when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk 
swallow for why no physical evidence exists.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson
Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey 
channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high 
vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so 
when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk 
swallow for why no physical evidence exists.

On Fri, 12/6/13, TurquoiseB  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 2:08 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 >
 > Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a
 subject matter captures ones interest.  
 
 >   
 
 >  And it could be the same reason that I found Star
 Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord
 of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy.  
 
 >   
 
 >  And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
 
 >   
 
 >  I can't say that I would be singled out as a
 proponent of the existence of Atlantis.  I just enjoy
 reading about it.
 
 >   
 
 >  But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to
 see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the
 bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some
 research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled
 civilization
 
 I would tend to agree. I have no
 opinion one way or another on the existence of a large
 civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that
 no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one
 that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of
 our modern recorded history. 
 
 I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same
 way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T.
 Lobsong Rampa. They're great tales, often told
 well. If they had been presented as what they were --
 fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with
 them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they
 were fact. So that kinda "taints" a good story and
 removes some of its interest, at least for me. 
 
 Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying
 things that they have "seen" or
 "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal
 powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way
 about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was
 in any way authoritative. :-)
 
 Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been
 entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably
 continue watching it, just to see what they came up with.
 Sadly, it was neither. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Share Long
Wow, Steve, I think Neo just sent 2 posts before I even hit Send button! More 
later.





On Friday, December 6, 2013 6:47 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones 
interest.  
 
And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early 
installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of 
fantasy.  
 
And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
 
I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of 
Atlantis.  I just enjoy reading about it.
 
But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate 
the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent 
on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread steve.sundur
I admit that I am fascinated by Atlantis subject matter.  I tend to gobble up 
books on the subject.  And yes,  pretty much the tales end up the same - evil 
overcoming good and the place gets destroyed.  But in most cases it took 
thousands of years for that to happen.  Even taking into account the 
possibility of three different cataclysmic events.
  
 So, I'm thinking, hey, they did pretty good if they were able to hold it 
together for long periods of time like that.  I mean the US of A is a little 
over 200 years, and look at the divisions we have.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Share Long
It seems that all *great* civilizations are doomed to collapse. Maybe the 
Chinese will be the exception to that!





On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:56 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  
The 1961 movie "Atlantis, the Lost Continent" was a warning about technology 
going out of control.   I don't know if that is the tract this version will go 
down.  

On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
>No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
>  
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote:
>>
>> Spot on. Awful! I can hardly
  watch anything BBC these days.
>
>It was like watching "Bill and Ted's
  Excellent Adventure In Atlantis."
>
>Characters named Jason and Pythagorus
  and Hercules. I was waiting for
>So-crates to appear. :-)
>
>
>
>



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Bhairitu
The 1961 movie "Atlantis, the Lost Continent" was a warning about 
technology going out of control. I don't know if that is the tract this 
version will go down.


On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote:

No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves!



On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB 
 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote:
>
> Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days.

It was like watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis."

Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for
So-crates to appear. :-)








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Bhairitu

On 12/05/2013 11:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:



Up next in my TV queue after "Bron-Broen 2" is "Orange Is The New
Black." I've been hearing good things about it from people I trust. It's
by the same people who created "Weeds."



I watched maybe 6-8 episodes of "Orange Is the New Black" but that was 
back in the summer when I started having problems getting an HD stream 
out of Netflix which is no longer a problem now that I use Chromecast.  
I also thought Kenji was milking the storyline a bit much to deliver the 
number episodes Netflix wanted.  I still like the 6-8 episode model that 
foreign networks use.  Most US showrunners start creating filler 
episodes to get to 13.


Netflix also release a trailer for the second season of Lilyhammer.

Funny thing, after cutting the cable I have more to watch than I had 
before cutting it.




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Share Long
Our library has The Tudors and as much as I like Rhys Meyers, I kind of creeped 
out by Henry VIII. However have thoroughly enjoyed Phillippa Gregory's novels 
about the various wives.





On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:57 PM, waspaligap  
wrote:
 
  
Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days.

But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 1st and 
Ferdinand 2nd:
http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel


It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in Spain, 
directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster Televisión 
Española.

Can you get it?

In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save "The Tudors" 
LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's daughter, so it 
gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of the woods). 

Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: "She reorganized the governmental system, 
brought the crime rate to the 
lowest it had been in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous 
debt her brother had left behind" [Wiki}

(Delivered under NEO sufferance & torture)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Share Long
No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves!





On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB  wrote:
 
  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap  wrote:
>
> Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days.

It was like watching "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis."

Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for
So-crates to appear.  :-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-05 Thread Bhairitu
However if anyone else wants to check it out the first episode is 
available on the BBCAmerica.com web site.


On 12/05/2013 10:57 AM, waspaligap wrote:


Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days.


But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 
1st and Ferdinand 2nd:


http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel


It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in 
Spain, directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster 
Televisión Española.



Can you get it?


In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save "The 
Tudors" LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's 
daughter, so it gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of 
the woods).



Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: "She reorganized the 
governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been 
in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous debt her brother 
had left behind" [Wiki}



(Delivered under NEO sufferance & torture)