Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong(??) on consensus says MIT prof-erectioner(...
In a message dated 7/4/06 9:35:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: In a message dated 7/3/06 12:30:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. writes: Where is all of this electricity going to come from? Did you know that an enormous amount of electricity is lost, in thin air, just in the transmission from power station along the power line grid, before anybody uses it?Hydrogen is creeping up on the inside lane. Googlefor Stanley Meyer, Linnard Griffin, Andrija Puharich.Some new ideas, some old. The Eldridge patent forstriking an arc under water and getting H2 and COexpired in the last year of WW1. Exactly, it's a little while down the road though, not that far off. But you can't stop what we are doing, use of fossil fuels, until we have something economically feasible enough to replace it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof
In a message dated 7/4/06 11:04:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet the Jews, whose scripture it is (presumablyyou're referring to the Hebrew Scriptures here), havehistorically been a profoundly moral people (presentgovernment of Israel excepted). Judy , do you really believe the present Israeli government is immoral or lacking anymore morals than previous Israeli governments, including biblical governments? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong(??) on consensus says MIT prof-erectioner(...
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/4/06 9:35:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) , MDixon6569@, MDix In a message dated 7/3/06 12:30:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ babajii_99 Where is all of this electricity going to come from? Did you know that an enormous amount of electricity is lost, in thin air, just in the transmission from power station along the power line grid, before anybody uses it? Hydrogen is creeping up on the inside lane. Google for Stanley Meyer, Linnard Griffin, Andrija Puharich. Some new ideas, some old. The Eldridge patent for striking an arc under water and getting H2 and CO expired in the last year of WW1. Exactly, it's a little while down the road though, not that far off. But you can't stop what we are doing, use of fossil fuels, until we have something economically feasible enough to replace it. The solution will lie with the free market. That's why I am always admonishing people here that it is THEY that are responsible for global warming if they continue to consume gasoline themselves, through their cars and plane tickets. Exxon doesn't consume very much oil themselves; it is their CUSTOMERS who do. And their customers are...YOU. 1. The human race has had autonomous transportation for thousands of years either by: foot, horseback or carriage. You are not going to change the mindset overnight. 2. Therefore what we need to do is deprogram the trend towards the ownership of larger vehicles. During the energy crisis of the 1970's smaller cars caught on but then there was the Volvo trend where the Volvo was thought to be a safer well built car to drive because it would protect them better. Car companies jumped on that bandwagon and went back to building bigger cars. The hippie wives of the 70's became middle class soccer moms of the 80's and 90's and wanted safer vans to haul their offspring to practice and games. Hence the car companies responded with bigger vans and particularly SUVs. 3. Wouldn't it have been better if instead of a knee jerk reaction people sat and thought out the problem more carefully. Large SUVs should not have received the tax exemption they got which made them more attractive. The economics of the soccer mom mentality needed to be looked at more carefully. Perhaps even Americas over the top obssession with sports needed to be looked at which seems to assume every kid will become a sports star and retire their parents. This is of course unrealistic. 4. Perhaps like we have anti-smoking commercials we need public service commercials that educate the public to the expense of continuing to operate big vehicles and what they do to the environment. Unfortunately car dealers and salespeople seem to have carny mentality. Did you know it was the Dodge brothers who foisted this style of car dealing on us? 5. And of course we now have more behemoth trucks on the highways since they have taken over from rail shipping. Truckers hate car and SUV drivers. But we don't have the funds to do truck lanes anymore which would help. So everyone thinks a bigger car will help in a collision with a Mack Truck though probably nothing will except another Mack Truck (oops, don't give them ideas). 6. What we need of course are smaller more practical vehicles and more practical and useful mass transit. Last week we had spare the air days in California. Mass transit was free but many found that it was largely impractical. A commute that took 1 hour or less by car wound up taking two hours by mass transit. In the San Francisco Bay Area you have BART which is an expensive rail based system. It is often crowded and serves a limited area. In San Jose their light rail system is less expensive to maintain and often built on abandoned rail lines. Portland, Oregon also has a successful light rail system. We need more of these and less BARTs. 7. It's going to be difficult to implement any kind of solution as the status quo is only interested in their preservation and not in improving life on this planet. 8. And of course the root of the problem *is* overpopulation. If everyone on the planet wanted to have the US standard of living it would require 4 planet earth's to provide those resources. Houston, we have a problem... We need need to reduce the population but in a humane way, not by war, not by man made diseases, but by rational means. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof
In a message dated 7/3/06 1:38:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much stock does he own in oil companies? Better yet, how much does Gore own?Cheney owns 600,000+ stock options from Halliburton, (worth about $45 million) things, so we know why he is keeping his mouth shut on this...and the stock price has tripled since he began slaughtering Iraqis- Good investment, Mr. Vice President! Yes, but Cheney isn't whining about the combustion engine, Gore is. Dang, tripled?! Wished I would have bought some Haliburton. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof
In a message dated 7/3/06 9:05:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course he isn't. That's the *point*. It would becontrary to his financial interests to do so. As Jimsays re Halliburton, that's why he is keeping his mouthshut.What are you missing here??, Gore is. Dang, tripled?! Wished I would have bought some Haliburton. We were expressing different points, obviously. Mine was that Gore complains about Global warming and the combustion engine while owning a lot of oil company stocks. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof
In a message dated 7/3/06 9:58:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oil and gas companies may be good investments in the short term, but won't they be less and less profitable as resources deplete?Seems to me a publicly traded exterminator company would be the place to invest. Bugs are the real winners in global warming.Cold-form steel construction, also known aslight guage steel framing, should grow. (It'sstronger than wood, which makes it betterin severe climates, and it's impervious to termites.)I've been thinking global warming will engendera huge new industry around managing and surviving the crisis. Where should people liveand invest? What career fields will flourish? Lotsof changes, which means lots of opportunitiesto make money. Investmentin oil companies will probably be a good investment just about anytime unless some big break through in technology comes along that the oil companies have not invested in. Exxon will probably always be in the energy business. New useful technologies always create changes with lots of opportunities. Horseless carriages sure did a number on the horse breeding business as well as buggy building industry. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong(??) on consensus says MIT prof-erectioner(...
In a message dated 7/3/06 12:30:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, did you know we could have had electric cars, like ten years ago;The technology is there,Unfornately it would put filling stations and repair stations out of business, you see;Because an electric car won't need as many repairs at all.And you plug it in your wall at home; so the Saudi/Bush group Where is all of this electricity going to come from? Did you know that an enormous amount of electricity is lost, in thin air,just in the transmission from power station along the power line grid, before anybody uses it? If we weren't burning the oil in our cars as gasoline, we would be burning it to generate electricity to charge those cars up at night. Too bad we don't have more nuclear power plants to generate electricity. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gore wrong on consensus says MIT prof
In a message dated 7/3/06 12:33:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (My sister didn't have Halliburton in mind, by theway, she was thinking of smaller companies thatoperate locally via franchise to clean out floodedbasements, pick up debris, etc.) A friend of mine and I thought it would be kool to invent giant heavy duty zip lock baggies that you can put furniture, electronics and other things in for people that live in flood plains. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
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In a message dated 7/3/06 8:37:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ++ Localized solar and wind generating could fill some of the need without the future problems provided by atomic power.Some of us on my street never were hooked to the grid so I do believe it works on a small scale. N. Yeah, but not off Nantucket __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
