Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 4:17:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there people sitting here proclaiming what theywould be willing to give up to get the next morselof "knowledge"? If so, I've missed it.What I've been seeing is people talking about whatthey think it would be worth giving up to learn TM--, but what good does that do? It only > becomes a contest of who can prove their devotion more.--and that doesn't seem to have anything to do with"devotion." Judy, I just took it a step further. Not only do I object to the price of TM but I object to the prices in general of everything the TMO sets. I find everything way over priced. And if you go to another source for better prices, like on PK or Jyotish all the sudden you are off the program or at least frowned upon and then your devotion to M is brought into question. At the same time I think some people will openly defend anything M does or says simply to give the impression that they are more devoted, thus holier- than- thou and should not be questioned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 4:26:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For many people who learn TM, transcending per se is notthe big deal but the *results* of transcending in one'sdaily life--and sometimes it takes awhile before positivechanges become evident. Ideally we don't meditate for the sake of experiences. However I only mentioned transcending because it does give somebody the idea, if that much is true, a transcendental field, then the rest of what they are saying in lectures could be true as well and make giving it some time to see results in activity worth wild. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 5:35:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then here is what I suggest you do: Don't bother to do anything. That's exactly what I intend to do. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 4:07:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is why you, who have transcended, should be telling people that "it is only $3.70 a day for 2 years", and that "where there is a will there is a way" You can tell those who have never transcended it's worth whatever it costs or more and to go get a loan or whatever it takes. But why should somebody listen? I'm not the one paying for the loan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 4:04:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most people can find half of it if they really want to. They could raise half and take out a small loan from a friend for the other half, then just pay it back at $4 a day for two years. It would be so easy for most people in the US to do it with a bit of creativity and a strong desire. What is there to give them a "strong" desire to put themselves in debt or deeper debt than they already are? Everybody knows the term "junk science" and the slogan "there's a fool born every minute". They ask themselves "why aren't hundreds of millions of people doing TM if it's so great?" and" Why have so many people learned it and quit?" I don't doubt most anybody in the US can afford to learn TM at it's current rate, *if * they really wanted to. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 4:00:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, because with the money each Westener that pays to learn, you can probably teach 1,000 people in India or somewhere. You are just US-Centric minded. If you convice only one person in the US to learn TM, and that it is only 3.70 a day for 2 years, you have helped a hundreds, maybe thousands, to learn in the world as a whole, thus generating global consciousness rise.OffWorld Well why not charge 25,000.00 dollars so 10,000 Indians can be taught for every American that learns? The question is are people in other parts of the world learning at such a pace that Americans need to be priced out of learning TM?Maybe Maharishi needs to pay people in India to get initiated, now talk about perceived value! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 2:23:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A real snake chasing its tail phenomenon, eh? I don't think price is the issue. People will pay for what they value. So how do we increase the perceived value of TM? Who knows? Quite a fun mystery! Probably something that cannot be seen linearly in its possible growing success, only charted by its failures. So it remains an open question whether or not TM will endure. No, it's real easy. If you have never transcended, how can you place any value on it? Let people satisfy their curiosity. If you have to charge them any thing, make it so it doesn't hurt to pay the fee to learn. Once the person has had the Transcendental experience and found benefits in practicing TM he will know what it means to him. Why do does anybody need to establish a high monetary value on TM? Transcending either means something to you or it doesn't. And the only way it can ever mean anything to a person is if they have done it and for some it may require a few times. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 11:48:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a benificiery of this knowledge, you are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe-lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you have already had the benefit of the knowledge. You have forgotton how incredibly helpful it can be to people in times of extreme stress. Many people in the world have nothing to absorb the stress which pushes down upon them everyday. As a beneficiary of a practice that you can practice any day, any where, even in a prison, and find relief, if you have any conscience at all you should be telling as many people as you can, that TM only costs $3.40 a day for 2 years.OffWorld I'm not proclaiming any thing to anybody. I'm also not preaching to the choir about why the uninitiated should give up anything. I'm simply speaking the reality that the uninitiated see TM and the TMO from. Anybody can sit here and proclaim what TM means to them and what they would be willing to give up to get the next morsel of "knowledge", but what good does that do? It only becomes a contest of who can prove their devotion more. It surely doesn't increase initiations and raise the quality of global consciousness. I suppose one could also walk to work for a year or two or give up breakfast or some other meal, give up hair cuts or deodorants. But why would somebody do such a thing to satisfy his curiosity about something he knows nothing about? At the price the TMO charges people, TM will die with it's current practitioners. What a shame! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 11:24:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your average Joe and Jane on the street are NOT scientists and could care less about documented scientific research. TM is not the only meditation technique out there that relieves stress. Honest. And your average customer looking for a little relief can find it via a book or class as mentioned previously. Bingo! Most people "shop" for the best prices. Everybody is used to people making the claim that brand x is as good or better than the high priced "spread". When Maharishi came to the US he learned about marketing fast but never learned how to beat the competition. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was "strange TB situation.
In a message dated 1/3/06 10:47:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, Pure COnsciousness means nothing no matter how many times you have tastedit. Pure Consciousness means nothing if you're fully enlightened.Sheesh. PC isn't anything you can write home about. But once a person has had an experience of Pure Consciousness, he has had something he can hang his hat on. He then has grounds to believe there just might be something to all the rest of what he has been told. From my own personal experience , had I not had a few experiences of TC in the beginning days and a few more in the coming months I would have quit and not looked back as most people do. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
