Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip *If* there really is a Maharishi Effect, it's hard to see how it could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Peter
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps MMY has Cosmic ADHD? ;-) Like a stick through water, perhaps. A minute later, what stick? Exactly! Who told you to use the stick? At least it's not Alzheimers where you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Peter
--- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on your observations. As you note, science is, at its best, an international, public discourse. I can understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Peter
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Thus, its critical to make the full original dataset available to other researchers to test the hypothesis via their approach to model specification and selection. If a suboptimal specification were chosen by the original researchers,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/11/05 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in good science this discourse goes back and forth with re-analysis of data, arguments for and against stated conclusions and out of this seeming mess really good, scientific advances come about. (On a side note, if you follow the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-11 Thread Vaj
On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on your observations. As

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-10 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-10 Thread Peter
Akasha, did they use an interupted time series analysis? I'm assuming with my baby stats background that this would have been appropriate. --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, I don't believe akasha is in a position even to guess at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Peter
The coldest it got was 25 below. When you walked in the snow it sqweeked. --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in December, 1983, Maharishi arrived for the Taste of Utopia Course. That evening, the temperature in Fairfield plunged to about 15 degrees below zero; The local

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:15 AM, authfriend wrote:It's important to understanding the study.  It's being used as a way to suggest they changed things around after seeing the data to get a better result, which isn't what happened.  And you're using it to construct all kinds of speculations about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:54 PM, akasha_108 wrote:You don't see how possibly "a single well constructed model would control for weather,  sociological and crime-factor variabes, and the intervention  variable, ALL AT THE SAME TIME."? If you don't understand this, then what can I say. You have no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Millionaires giving MMY lots of money? The birth of a really creative marketing tool: make people think they are actually getting a meditation technique that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 8:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:03 AM, sparaig wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or  3/4 baked M-effect studies?Millionaires giving MMY lots of money? The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote:I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated scientifically. Well, two comments. One, I think it can be demonstrated and has--but it was not called the "Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/9/05 4:41 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in December, 1983, Maharishi arrived for the Taste of Utopia Course. That evening, the temperature in Fairfield plunged to about 15 degrees below zero; The local press, made a big deal of all the meditators, standing outside

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why do you think they MIU researchers refused to share their raw data with the University of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the record many times as saying that even if the ME *does* exist, I don't think it can be conclusively demonstrated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:19 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Nov 9, 2005, at 9:29 AM, authfriend wrote: I'm also on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Peter
The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:42 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, authfriend wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Peter wrote:The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Since Barry disappeared, it was inevitable. I'll remember to bring the Jello next time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Peter wrote: The latest round of tag team wrestling on FFL. Soon Irmeli and I will jump in for you! Since Barry disappeared, it was inevitable. Yeah,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Peter
It doesn't offend me, Judy. I recognize that it has much more importance for the participants then anyone else. And I certainly have done the same thing many times especially with Akasha and most recently with Irmeli. I was attemting to inject a little levity into the situation. --- authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Vaj
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:46 PM, tazarmfune wrote:Vaj commented: This is a constant in the TB mentality: *sound* like you know  what you are talking about and hope that if you repeat it many times, people will believe you. I find this to be a rather common  phenom in movement type and it is a subtle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-09 Thread Jamshad Ghanbar
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Lynch - Now Crime, Abortion the DC study

2005-11-08 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's going to be the practical result of all these half or 3/4 baked M-effect studies? Nothing Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups.