Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Thank you Ravi. And yes, I am happy. I do not feel all that dissonant. I do not feel obsessive, it just kind of oozes out. It is hard to philosophise when you are insane, but guys like Charles Manson made interesting attempts. Keep trying. I hope your grandmother's passing was an easy one. From: dr_rc_racy no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:28 AM Subject: Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug Hi dear Grandpa Xeno - yes I'm doing very well indeed. My grandmother, alas is no longer with us, she passed away last year in April. Thank you for your concern, much appreciated. Jekyll Hyde you say? This is my insight for you grandpa, this dissonance is the product of your mind that goes on this incessant, obsessive philosophizing, almost effortless, mechanical and autonomic, totally insulated from the truth. It fools people into believing you are presenting some sort of objective, enlightened, dispassionate, disinterested position when in reality it is masquerading your biases. I almost admire and envy this ability of you to philosophize on auto-pilot. I tried a few times to emulate you, as an experiment in response to specific situations. I tried to come up with the sort of philosophizing that you indulge in with such wild abandon and I mostly failed, it's hard. I cant' be you Grandpa Xeno. Happy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Ravi, How are you these days? Is your grandmother still with us? I still remember that picture you posted. As for you, you always seemed to have Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde personality here. This here is Dr Jekyll posting. When the Mr Hyde side posted, it was difficult to respond because there was no logical handle upon which to grasp. Have you had any big insights recently? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Hi dear Grandpa Xeno - yes I'm doing very well indeed. My grandmother, alas is no longer with us, she passed away last year in April. Thank you for your concern, much appreciated. Jekyll Hyde you say? This is my insight for you grandpa, this dissonance is the product of your mind that goes on this incessant, obsessive philosophizing, almost effortless, mechanical and autonomic, totally insulated from the truth. It fools people into believing you are presenting some sort of objective, enlightened, dispassionate, disinterested position when in reality it is masquerading your biases. I almost admire and envy this ability of you to philosophize on auto-pilot. I tried a few times to emulate you, as an experiment in response to specific situations. I tried to come up with the sort of philosophizing that you indulge in with such wild abandon and I mostly failed, it's hard. I cant' be you Grandpa Xeno. Happy? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Ravi, How are you these days? Is your grandmother still with us? I still remember that picture you posted. As for you, you always seemed to have Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde personality here. This here is Dr Jekyll posting. When the Mr Hyde side posted, it was difficult to respond because there was no logical handle upon which to grasp. Have you had any big insights recently? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. The Funny Farm Lounge strikes again! But thanks for the potentially useful info, I never would have worked that out ;-) --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly.
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Oh well hello there, that's Dr. RC's discovery not Alex's - he merely found out and has elucidated it for the knowledge of you laymen. Anyway Barry - if you are listening create an alias called say uncle_tantra start posting away. I mean because this anonymous posting is allowed, only handles can be banned not people. Seriously it's not as if we are using social security numbers for the membership. Let's put these 20th century archaic rules aside and usher ourselves to the new era !! May be people think uncle_tantra is turquoiseb but it doesn't matter. May be uncle_tantra is an impostor, an impersonator claiming to be turquoiseb. Uncle_tantra starts off with a clean slate and the moderator should treat it as such. Anyway Doug only wants everyone to use handles and not people's names. So may be uncle_tantra avoids all gratuitous insults, he adapts and evolves and never gets banned for the rest of eternity, and then the much promised age of enlightenment (albeit a non-TM one) dawns. This should make Doug happy :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. The Funny Farm Lounge strikes again! But thanks for the potentially useful info, I never would have worked that out ;-) --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
SO crazy Ravi is back, and Doug still won't say why he banned Barry - Funny Farm indeed. From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Maybe, try to move past it for a while, and see how things play out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : SO crazy Ravi is back, and Doug still won't say why he banned Barry - Funny Farm indeed. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
I believe Doug responded this question. Perhaps it was not the answer you liked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : SO crazy Ravi is back, and Doug still won't say why he banned Barry - Funny Farm indeed. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. Trying to like someone is like trying to crush a mantra into transcendence. You have the wrong technique. Some people we do not like. It is easier to like something you understand.
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Ravi, How are you these days? Is your grandmother still with us? I still remember that picture you posted. As for you, you always seemed to have Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde personality here. This here is Dr Jekyll posting. When the Mr Hyde side posted, it was difficult to respond because there was no logical handle upon which to grasp. Have you had any big insights recently? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in this manner, so I'm felling pretty okay about being targeted for no reason. Yeah, I post some crap here and should be wrist slapped maybe sorta but shit, gimme a break. Not that Turq couldn't have had great insights in the psychological and spiritual dissonances some of us experience regularly, but that he NEVER wanted to help anyone towards clarity -- he was only here to rape your mind in public and then walk
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. Trying to like someone is like trying to crush a mantra into transcendence. You have the wrong technique. Some people we do not like. It is easier to like something you understand. Nope. I understand him and I still don't like him.
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Well it is absurd indeed Alex - I really have no interest in fighting the charges or to get reinstated and be back here on a full time basis. I do pop in once in a while and this whole banning of Turq got me hooked on again in reading all the related posts. Anyway I wish people would just stop spreading falsities on ex-posters including including myself so I don't have to resort to this. Doug - are you listening? Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
I thought it was pretty hilarious but thanks for letting me know how it happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Well you free to hold on to your delusions Curtis but as I said your accusations are nothing but malicious slander, there wasn't anything to stop here - you just manipulated and lied to Rick to get your way just as emptybill did. Rick was neither right then nor is he right now. You don't know anything about my motivations and intentions. You don't know anything about me. Your theories are balderdash, product of a mind intent on pathological self-preservation, product of a mind painfully oblivious of it's own malice, deception and behavior, your behavior that caused me to go after you with such wild abandon. And there's nothing weird about my use of shame, there's nothing for you to be proud of in your support of Barry here. And I'm not the only poster here, many others including the likes of Jim, Robin, Judy and others would share similar sentiments. And let me repeat in again - you should be ashamed of your behavior in enabling Barry here and the myriad justifications and rationalizations you have indulged in the past here. Ravi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. Me: Yeah he actually did. It was a proven fact. And the intention behind it was to harm me. It was stopped by Rick. Who happens to be a search engine expert by profession, so he understood exactly what was happening. I was a search engine optimizer for a tech company years ago. But anyone with familiarity with them could recognize what was happening. I was able to check it so I could determine the rate that my name was being associated with vile lies by its rank in the search engines. The bluff and bluster of words like preposterous doesn't substitute for facts. ?: You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Me: This is untrue as anyone who ever read me here knows. I have suffered a barrage of insults from quite a few people here but I would never question their right to express that here. It is not medicine to flood search engines. It is a cyber aggression for actual harm. ?: Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Me: There was no poor me. I took action so it was stopped. I was the opposite of a poor me. ?:Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Me: Are you outing yourself? ?: Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. Me: Glad we agree on that. Well said. ?: As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Me: Requesting that someone feel shame is such a weird thing to communicate. Trying to link me to Barry as someone who could be in a position to enable shows a lack of understanding of the word. It means: to give (someone or something) the authority or means to do something. How would it be possible for me to do either of those things with Barry by posting on the same board he does? Rick enabled us all and that was the end of anyone's ability to enable anyone here. We rarely even cross posts we mostly have different interests here. Sorry for disappoint you about your request for me to be ashamed of my participation here. To make matters worse, I am really proud of the what I have written here. It has helped me immensely in online communication. And much of that learning took place in a highly charged emotional atmosphere where someone was riding my jock hard about being too much of one thing, or not enough of something else. It was often very unpleasant. But it is a kind of training that I value. I don't seem to need too much of it these days, but when I need a dose, this place delivers. Thanks for writing and I will accept the feedback not to invoke names from the past that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Oh dear god why can't you just let it go and keep me away from this place? It's almost as if it's an invitation for me to actively participate here, including keeping tabs on these slanderous posts. Damn it Curtis. Let it go, let me go - I beg you !! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Well you free to hold on to your delusions Curtis but as I said your accusations are nothing but malicious slander, there wasn't anything to stop here - you just manipulated and lied to Rick to get your way just as emptybill did. Rick was neither right then nor is he right now. You don't know anything about my motivations and intentions. You don't know anything about me. Your theories are balderdash, product of a mind intent on pathological self-preservation, product of a mind painfully oblivious of it's own malice, deception and behavior, your behavior that caused me to go after you with such wild abandon. And there's nothing weird about my use of shame, there's nothing for you to be proud of in your support of Barry here. And I'm not the only poster here, many others including the likes of Jim, Robin, Judy and others would share similar sentiments. And let me repeat in again - you should be ashamed of your behavior in enabling Barry here and the myriad justifications and rationalizations you have indulged in the past here. Ravi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. Me: Yeah he actually did. It was a proven fact. And the intention behind it was to harm me. It was stopped by Rick. Who happens to be a search engine expert by profession, so he understood exactly what was happening. I was a search engine optimizer for a tech company years ago. But anyone with familiarity with them could recognize what was happening. I was able to check it so I could determine the rate that my name was being associated with vile lies by its rank in the search engines. The bluff and bluster of words like preposterous doesn't substitute for facts. ?: You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Me: This is untrue as anyone who ever read me here knows. I have suffered a barrage of insults from quite a few people here but I would never question their right to express that here. It is not medicine to flood search engines. It is a cyber aggression for actual harm. ?: Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Me: There was no poor me. I took action so it was stopped. I was the opposite of a poor me. ?:Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Me: Are you outing yourself? ?: Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. Me: Glad we agree on that. Well said. ?: As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Me: Requesting that someone feel shame is such a weird thing to communicate. Trying to link me to Barry as someone who could be in a position to enable shows a lack of understanding of the word. It means: to give (someone or something) the authority or means to do something. How would it be possible for me to do either of those things with Barry by posting on the same board he does? Rick enabled us all and that was the end of anyone's ability to enable anyone here. We rarely even cross posts we mostly have different interests here. Sorry for disappoint you about your request for me to be ashamed of my participation here. To make matters worse, I am really proud of the what I have written here. It has helped me immensely in online communication. And much of that learning took place in a highly charged emotional atmosphere where someone was riding my jock hard about being too much of one thing, or not enough of something else. It was often very unpleasant. But it is a kind of training that I value. I don't seem to need too much of it
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. Me: Yeah he actually did. It was a proven fact. And the intention behind it was to harm me. It was stopped by Rick. Who happens to be a search engine expert by profession, so he understood exactly what was happening. I was a search engine optimizer for a tech company years ago. But anyone with familiarity with them could recognize what was happening. I was able to check it so I could determine the rate that my name was being associated with vile lies by its rank in the search engines. The bluff and bluster of words like preposterous doesn't substitute for facts. ?: You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Me: This is untrue as anyone who ever read me here knows. I have suffered a barrage of insults from quite a few people here but I would never question their right to express that here. It is not medicine to flood search engines. It is a cyber aggression for actual harm. ?: Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Me: There was no poor me. I took action so it was stopped. I was the opposite of a poor me. ?:Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Me: Are you outing yourself? ?: Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. Me: Glad we agree on that. Well said. ?: As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Me: Requesting that someone feel shame is such a weird thing to communicate. Trying to link me to Barry as someone who could be in a position to enable shows a lack of understanding of the word. It means: to give (someone or something) the authority or means to do something. How would it be possible for me to do either of those things with Barry by posting on the same board he does? Rick enabled us all and that was the end of anyone's ability to enable anyone here. We rarely even cross posts we mostly have different interests here. Sorry for disappoint you about your request for me to be ashamed of my participation here. To make matters worse, I am really proud of the what I have written here. It has helped me immensely in online communication. And much of that learning took place in a highly charged emotional atmosphere where someone was riding my jock hard about being too much of one thing, or not enough of something else. It was often very unpleasant. But it is a kind of training that I value. I don't seem to need too much of it these days, but when I need a dose, this place delivers. Thanks for writing and I will accept the feedback not to invoke names from the past that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in this manner, so I'm felling pretty okay about being targeted for no reason. Yeah, I post some crap here and should be wrist slapped maybe sorta but shit, gimme a break. Not that Turq couldn't have had great insights in the psychological and spiritual dissonances some of us experience regularly, but that he NEVER wanted to help anyone towards clarity -- he was only here to rape your mind in public and then walk away like he'd slain a dragon for all our benefits. Talk about your terror-minded, teeny brained, tawdry life intents! I know you're reading, Turq. Ha ha ha ha ha...payback's a bitchand get this: just like you NEVER gave anyone a break, I'm smackin' the fuckin' shit outta ya when YOU'RE DOWN, because IT'S PERFECT KARMA. And, it takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- thank you Rick for giving us Doug! Yes, I said it! Ha ha! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I second the motion! And for the record I like Barry and Duveyoung too, who doesn't like Barry. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug OK I've done my homework Doug. You have not been dealing straight with us and it is time for you to man up and explain why YOU decided on your own to ban Barry and what the reason was. Seriously dude, you have been naughty and you owe us an explanation. I get it that many people who post here didn't like Barry and they are happy he is gone so they may not all as a group stand up together and call you out for being dishonest and devious with us. They might think that the end justified the means. This is shortsighted thinking when it comes to abuse of power. I don't appreciate being lied to here and I am calling you out for abusing your powers in exactly the way Rick explicitly warned you against. You are throwing his trust back in his face by your actions as well as disrespecting everyone who builds discussions here. Stop dodging the legitimate questions you have been asked even by Alex. On what specific basis have you banished Barry? What rule did he violate? Let's put out those flaming pants with a a little truth now that you have been
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. Fist bump! Thank you for the added clarity. Unless I'm reading or writing on FFL, I think I can honestly say I've never had a single emotion or thought about Barry. But, my FFL persona has to have a certain consistency, and perforce, I'm truly dancing on his gravethe grave of his troll persona. Who Barry truly is HAS NOT been displayed by the masks he's worn here, nor does anyone here not wear a mask, so I'm feeling pretty okay morally about me being this cheap-ass-putz, because, to me, it's like Tweety Bird getting to bell the Puddy. Gotta love belling the puddy. It's all merely characters in all our brains..whizzin' around and drowning out the cries of the dying 3rd world. Just to show how fair I'm willing to be, when I post this, I'll close my eyes and, ten times in a row, I will imagine Barry knitting cat sweaters. And also I'll toss in one Our Father. Such a deal ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in this manner, so I'm felling pretty okay about being targeted for no reason. Yeah, I post some crap here and should be wrist slapped maybe sorta but shit, gimme a break. Not that Turq couldn't have had great insights in the psychological and spiritual dissonances some of us experience regularly, but that he NEVER wanted to help anyone towards clarity -- he was only here to rape your mind in public and then walk away like he'd slain a dragon for all our benefits. Talk about your terror-minded, teeny brained, tawdry life intents! I know you're reading, Turq. Ha ha ha ha ha...payback's a bitchand get this: just like you NEVER gave anyone a break, I'm smackin' the fuckin' shit outta ya when YOU'RE DOWN, because IT'S PERFECT KARMA. And, it takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- thank you Rick for giving us Doug! Yes, I said it! Ha ha! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I second the motion! And for the record I like Barry and Duveyoung too, who doesn't like Barry. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug OK I've done my homework Doug. You have not been dealing straight with us and it
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in this manner, so I'm felling pretty okay about being targeted for no reason. Yeah, I post some crap here and should be wrist slapped maybe sorta but shit, gimme a break. Not that Turq couldn't have had great insights in the psychological and spiritual dissonances some of us experience regularly, but that he NEVER wanted to help anyone towards clarity -- he was only here to rape your mind in public and then walk away like he'd slain a dragon for all our benefits. Talk about your terror-minded, teeny brained, tawdry life intents! I know you're reading, Turq. Ha ha ha ha ha...payback's a bitchand get this: just like you NEVER gave anyone a break, I'm smackin' the fuckin' shit outta ya when YOU'RE DOWN, because IT'S PERFECT KARMA. And, it takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- thank you Rick for giving us Doug! Yes, I said it! Ha ha!
Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major self-esteem wound. Psychic fucking vampire slavering to lick up any spilled blood. Sick. Sociopath almost certainly. Willfully anti-sanity. Living inside a bullet proof bubble. Not blinkered, blind. I tried. He shot poisoned arrows. I am not the most lovable person, hee fucking hee, but Turq attacked almost everyone in this manner, so I'm felling pretty okay about being targeted for no reason. Yeah, I post some crap here and should be wrist slapped maybe sorta but shit, gimme a break. Not that Turq couldn't have had great insights in the psychological and spiritual dissonances some of us experience regularly, but that he NEVER wanted to help anyone towards clarity -- he was only here to rape your mind in public and then walk away like he'd slain a dragon for all our benefits. Talk about your terror-minded, teeny brained, tawdry life intents! I know you're reading, Turq. Ha ha ha ha ha...payback's a bitchand get this: just like you NEVER gave anyone a break, I'm smackin' the fuckin' shit outta ya when YOU'RE DOWN, because IT'S PERFECT KARMA. And, it takes a thorn to remove a thorn -- thank you Rick for giving us Doug! Yes, I said it! Ha ha! ---In
