Re: Trick or Treat!!

2003-11-04 Thread hassas
Hi folks,

I read this discussion today and I made a guess that may seem so funny.

If this page is rendered with OpenType font, I think the problem for
isolated forms is related to "cmap" table of the font.
Because Arabic Range ( U+06XX ) shares same glyphs with Arabic
Presentation From-A for isolated form of characters, it's so common in
OpenType fonts to not include Arabic Presentation isolated form of a
character in the "cmap" table.
Font developers just use the "isol" feature of GSUB in OpenType.
You can see this in Arabic Volt Font (ArabTypeSetting).
That it...

Mehran and i will recommend in "Farsi OpenType Font Specification" that
fonts should include all Arabic Presentation Form characters in "cmap"
table and all the glyphs mapped in "cmap" should be unique.

--Best Regards
Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
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Re: Trick or Treat!!

2003-11-04 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi folks,

Man, nice to hear from you.  More off the list.

> I read this discussion today and I made a guess that may seem so funny.
>
> If this page is rendered with OpenType font, I think the problem for
> isolated forms is related to "cmap" table of the font.
> Because Arabic Range ( U+06XX ) shares same glyphs with Arabic
> Presentation From-A for isolated form of characters, it's so common in
> OpenType fonts to not include Arabic Presentation isolated form of a
> character in the "cmap" table.

Humm, seems reasonable.  Can you send Connie a fixed font to
test?

> Font developers just use the "isol" feature of GSUB in OpenType.
> You can see this in Arabic Volt Font (ArabTypeSetting).
> That it...
>
> Mehran and i will recommend in "Farsi OpenType Font Specification" that

"Persian OpenType Font Specification" you mean ;).

> fonts should include all Arabic Presentation Form characters in "cmap"
> table and all the glyphs mapped in "cmap" should be unique.
>
> --Best Regards
> Soheil Hassas Yeganeh

behdad

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> open windows!!!

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Re: Trick or Treat!!

2003-11-04 Thread Behnam
On 4/11/03 3:30 AM, from the address: [EMAIL PROTECTED], you
wrote:

> 
> Any idea how to solve the problem with the first example that Connie posted?
> 
> students.washington.edu/irina/MacOSX_IE5.2.gif
> 
> Why is it that IE5 on Mac OS does not show the characters? Will Panther fix
> this problem too?
> 
> Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Saeed

I'm not a computer savvy but here's my two cents: I had similar appearance
on some websites and they were resolved by downloading and installing the
special Farsi font they provided. But in this case, since the Farsi
characters do show up in other browsers, I don't think that would work.
But here is another fact: if you are on Mac platform, you better look for
another browser (other than IE5).
Shortly after Apple introduced Safari, MS announced that they stopped
developing IE for Mac. They really don't like competition! that means that
the IE version you have (5.2 I presume) is the last browser ever made for
Mac by Microsoft, and 5.2 is already quite old.
If you try Safari, you'll see that it is much faster than IE 5 and it is
catching up on some features that IE excels.(security signatures for online
banking for example)
Since MS will not upgrade IE for Mac, there is a possibility that the
improvements in Panther will have no effect in IE performance. (browser has
to be geared to text engine of OS and IE apparently is not)
By the end of this coming weekend, after I installed Panthers, I may have
more to say on this.

Behnam

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