[farsiweb] Re: Persian input with US/European keyboard

2003-06-12 Thread Nigel Greenwood
Re Mostafa Modirrousta's message of 11 Jun 2003: This program of yours, it is not free, is it? No, but you can try it out by typing short passages of 10 lines or so with the online demo. Also, there is a link on your page to Eurofarsi or something like that. As a movement which has no

[farsiweb] Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator

2003-06-12 Thread Masud Alipour
Ever wanted to quickly and easily define your own keyboard layout for a language Microsoft doesn't support? Or define your own keyboard layout so you can quickly and easily enter your favorite symbols with a simple keystroke? Well, want no more: the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator is here!

[farsiweb] IE crash code! (fwd)

2003-06-12 Thread Behnam Esfahbod
take a look at this mail. you can find the example at: - http://esfahbod.info/proj/web/test/ie/crash.html i'd tested the page with IE6 SP1 (latest microsoft update), and it crashed too! -- To: BugTraq

Re: [farsiweb] IE crash code! (fwd)

2003-06-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Behnam Esfahbod wrote: take a look at this mail. you can find the example at: - http://esfahbod.info/proj/web/test/ie/crash.html i'd tested the page with IE6 SP1 (latest microsoft update), and it crashed too! I'm sorry, this is completely off-topic. Please stop

[farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

2003-06-12 Thread C Bobroff
Attached file [.pdf] is preview of New Persian Keyboard layout preview. Thanks. That's very helpful. Must have taken quite some time to make! What is the character on alt+control+d ? It's putting me in footnote mode. Possibly related to the fact I don't have MS Arial Unicode (or whatever it's

[farsiweb] Re: [PersianComputing] Persian Keyboard Layout Preview

2003-06-12 Thread Behnam Esfahbod
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: What is the character on alt+control+d ? It's putting me in footnote mode. Possibly related to the fact I don't have MS Arial Unicode (or whatever it's now called) installed?? Or maybe that's supposed to be the tatweel?? It's ARABIC LETTER ALEF MAKSURA

RE: [farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard

2003-06-12 Thread Linguasoft
Title: Message Hi, I tried your demo at http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/fdemo_online.htm and found that some of the substitution rules you use are problematic (e.g., in the beginning of a new line, "oftad" generates and NOT ; in front of certain punctuation marks, "do" generates and

RE: [farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard

2003-06-12 Thread Nigel Greenwood
Re Peter E. Hauer's message of 12 Jun 2003: Many thanks for your patient testing feedback. I tried your demo at http://www.elgin.free-online.co.uk/fdemo_online.htm and found that some of the substitution rules you use are problematic (e.g., in the beginning of a new line, oftad generates

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Linguasoft
Dear Roozbeh, Thanks for your efforts to provide us with an experimental version of the new standard keyboard layout for Persian ! I tried the keyboard in Word2000/Win2000, using Arial Unicode MS which displays all glyphs that can be generated via the keyboard except Riyal sign and Subscript

RE: [farsiweb] Persian input with US/European keyboard

2003-06-12 Thread Linguasoft
Title: Message Hi,When typing "o", substitution of waw with hamzah (for alef) happens after using Backspace or Ctrl-Alt and then Del, for example when clearing a line or the entire document in the test window, and then typing a word beginning with "o"."Punctuation" I referred to includes

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Linguasoft
Standard shortcuts of Word for C, R, and T refers to copyright, registered, and trademark signs ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linguasoft Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:25 PM To: 'Roozbeh Pournader'; 'The FarsiWeb Mailing List';

Re: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Behnam Esfahbod
Oops! 2. This is a Windows feature: Ctrl+Shift will act like AltGr/right Alt. If you have shortcut keys assigned to them, they may start to act in a weird way. The truth is Ctrl+Alt act as AltGr (right Alt). -- Behnam Esfahbod ..[ http://esfahbod.info | behnam(a)esfahbod.info ]

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread C Bobroff
I am not quite sure in which context standalone versions of maddah, hamzah above and hamzah below are used, but assume they are there because they are in the Unicode standard. In a textbook, you might want to say, This here is a maddah. In the past, I wanted to show what a superscript alif

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: Thanks for your efforts to provide us with an experimental version of the new standard keyboard layout for Persian ! You're welcome Peter. But please don't propagate it much, since that may be changed. I tried the keyboard in Word2000/Win2000, using

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: In a textbook, you might want to say, This here is a maddah. In the past, I wanted to show what a superscript alif compared to fatha looks like and was not able to You should put them either over a space, or a Tatweel (U+0640, the base line extender

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: No other keyboard I know for extended Arabic languages provides keytop positions for standalone versions of maddah, hamzah above and hamzah below, although it might make sense to use these keys as deadkeys to type compounded glyphs alef-madda,

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread C Bobroff
You should put them either over a space, or a Tatweel (U+0640, the base line extender that looks like a '_'). Just over a space is fine but the font should be able to render it and the fontmakers don't always know what all people may want to type. If the fontmakers see it's a character on the

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, C Bobroff wrote: Just over a space is fine but the font should be able to render it and the fontmakers don't always know what all people may want to type. That's some other matter. If the fontmakers see it's a character on the keyboard, they might make an isolated form.

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread C Bobroff
Depends on how you define easy. Try! If you don't redefine your concept of easy, people are going to say it's too hard to bother with this script and that's why they advocate romanizing Persian. Do you know just to enable FA input on a Windows machine is asking too much for newbies? You should

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Behnam Esfahbod
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Linguasoft wrote: Standard shortcuts of Word for C, R, and T also work with the Persian keyboard. Interesting news. I didn't know about them at all. Combining of C, R and T with AltGr (also Ctrl+Alt in windows) in new

RE: [farsiweb] New keyboard layout for Windows

2003-06-12 Thread Linguasoft
These are *combining* Maddah, Hamza Above, and Hamza Below. Isn't that what I called deadkeys in another context? (Had no time to look into SC Unipad so far to see how exactly they function...) smart quotes: I see your point, but please see my point too. There are people editing bilingual