Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 01:01 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : So +1 from me There is still a minor observation: in the 256x256 version it looks like the small gear is not on the same plane with the other, like it is a bit backward, so maybe raise

Re: [Echo] New image-missing icon set

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 02:47 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Looking into the old Echo icon theme, I found early image-missing[1]. I replaced the blue background by red for better metaphor. Interesting enough other theme like gnome, Tango and oxygen have different way to interpret the same

Re: [Echo] New image-missing icon set

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 10:49 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Good idea. Now that you mention it, once we complete 0.4, I will create template for emote as well. I think it's a good idea to provide as many templates as can be helpful - i.e. the paper sheet, perhaps the mail envelope (though all

[Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just finished the network-(dis)connect icon series, the metaphor is pretty much the same like in oxygen and gtk stock, although I've chosen different design (standard network cable + socket). Comments welcome, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 12:14 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: This sounds interesting and reminds me of a similar project (http://tango.freedesktop.org), but for Fedora only. Not for Fedora only, but for Fedora mainly ;-) However, I have a hard time seeing where the Echo style are a in-between

Re: [Echo] network-(dis)connect icon set

2008-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 03:23 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: I looked to Oxygen icon version and was wondering if there were a power plug with extension. Seems like that to me... This version is not bad but the 256x256 network-(dis)connect looks strange. For network-disconnect, could you fix

Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 12:52 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Having the second gear smaller is a suggestion I wanted to make but I was shy about it: it was late in the discuss and I may sound much like a whiner which contribute only with words and no actual work to the icon set... Don't be shy

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 15:28 +0200, Hylke Bons wrote: I think what Andreas means is that when you install an application that is not in the default Fedora install, it's going to look out of place. All the most popular OSS packages now use the same icon style upstream, which is a major

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-25 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 17:22 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Hi, Hi, Fedora does not equally support QT/KDE applications. And even if we I'd strongly disagree with that. QT/KDE applications has equal love from the KDE SIG as GTK/Gnome from the Desktop team, and I think the KDE SIG guys are

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:53 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: When we approved Echo as the default icon theme for F10, I was under the assumption that this was already more or less known as a feature to the Desktop group, and they were OK with the coverage provided and the experience given. Is

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
Yep. If you feel some particular icon is missing, it's need-to-have and is not on our todo [1], feel free to ping us about it. Sorry, I forgot to add reference: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/BaseSet Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:24 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Hi Martin, thanks for this useful link. We (KDE SIG) are trying to use Echo theme as default for KDE but currently there are still some icons missing. We are preparing list of to-be-done icons. So can we fill it as ticket for

Re: Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it realistic to expect this to happen? Anything that thought to be unrealistic can happen. =) Sure, but does upstream gnome have any plans to echo-ify their

Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 03:04 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: system-run is an action icon hence the use of table perspective following the guideline. It is derived from emblem-system, one gear is used instead of three like some other icon theme. 16x16 and 22x22 should be crisp enough. Comment

Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:29 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Added a second gear. That works better. I forgot to shrink outline to 2px which has been addressed. Done for 16x16. Need to see how it looks on other screen. Might need some more touches, the other sizes are looking crisp, but the

Legal issues with InvinXble? (I doubt so)

2008-09-23 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I haven't read the whole discussion yet, but I feel greatly disappointed with what I read so far. First, I have an impression that Mo and Nicu are somehow biased against Samuele's work. First, some weeks ago, Mo kept asking Samuele about Moon brushes in the Solar theme, when the Moons were

Re: Legal issues with InvinXble? (there are some)

2008-09-23 Thread Martin Sourada
Ok, ok, I am sorry, you proved me partly wrong, my bad. I still feel awkward about the whole discussion, but Mo is right there (I am sorry for my accusations). I looked into the sources and while the blade has been changed I believe it is directly based on Samuele's own photo, the tilt is from

Re: [Echo] New view-sort-ascending icon set draft

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 00:30 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Shadow is fixed. Both 22x22 and 16x16 got outline sightly reduced to give more space to white inner outline. Ball object got radial gradient set at the right position. Luya Hmm... still not feel good. The 22x22 is almost fixed, but

Re: [Echo] New view-sort-descending icon set draft

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 02:33 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Same as view-sort-ascending with inverted arrow. Luya Looks pretty good, I have no comments :) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___

Re: [Echo] New edit-clear icons

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 16:00 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Yeah, that is much better. Could you add some outline to the stripe as well? Also you could make the handle a little bit broader in the smaller sizes. Could you try using dark brown outline instead

Re: [Echo] New view-sort-ascending icon set draft

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 02:19 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: These sets are based from gnome-version. Only difference is Echo treatment. Comment welcome. Luya The arrow looks too tall, if you played a little with its tale shape, it might help. I think the dots might be better of if the were

[Echo,Actions] Various Dialog Related Icons, Final DRAFT

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just slightly updated 22x22 version of the dialog-* icons and process-stop and added two new icons which share the same design concept - help-information and window-close. For convenience I attach 32x32 versions, one canvas SVGs and PNGs are at my fp.o page [1]. Comments welcome, Martin

Re: [Echo] New view-sort-ascending icon set draft

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 11:42 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: icons. Could you try adding colour for the arrow? At 32x32 and bellow FYI, I just checked oxygen icons and they use blue for the arrow, so I suggest you try blue as well :) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[Echo] New trash related icons

2008-09-20 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I think there some major problems with how the current trash related icons look in small sizes and I've tried to fix them once already, but since I didn't want to touch the Diana's original design (the trash is one of the first icons that were in the Echo set), it didn't end up very well.

Re: [Echo] Reworked mail-mark-(not)junk icons

2008-09-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 10:25 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Mail-mark-junk is much better than other version that looks like a wet hedgehog. For mail-mark-notjunk icon, why not keeping the same metaphor minus wet hedgehog. For me, this draft means the mail has been verified. That's the

Re: [Echo] New trash related icons

2008-09-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 22:05 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel Shevchuk a écrit : I fail to recall any transparent trash bins. This one looks like glass of water =\ Some themes use transparent trash bins.

Re: [Echo] New edit-clear icons

2008-09-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 13:54 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Looking good but I don't like the red part... It's pretty radical change from the gnome-icon-theme one :-D Martin Yeah, gnome-icon-theme looks boring and tiresome. I stripped out the red part

Re: [Echo] New edit-clear icons

2008-09-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 14:24 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Hm... looks more like it's the red colour itself that I don't like there. Could you try more subtle colour? Here. Btw. I wasn't implying that gnome-icon-theme looks boring or tiresome, in fact

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 16:16 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Good, just check whether you have the 48x48 icon grouped and labelled as scalable (otherwise the scalable icon might end up being empty). I recently realised I tend to forgot to do that step (and it's

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 10:54 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: I've fixed both the SVG and the commit. And I attach fixed SVG for the object-rotate-right. Martin attachment: object-rotate-right.svg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 16:16 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Good, just check whether you have the 48x48 icon grouped and labelled as scalable (otherwise the scalable icon might end up being empty). I recently realised I tend to forgot to do that step (and it's

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 10:05 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Based on object-icon-left icon set. Only difference is the direction. It should be fine after tweaking the previous object-rotate-left. Comment welcome. Luya ___ Fedora-art-list

Re: Using Fedora Hosted Space for Art Team?

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:35 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: we've briefly discussed with Mo on the irc, that it might be worth setting up a fedorahosted.org instance for the Fedora Art Team. Primary purpose would be to host our release graphics, but it could serve other

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:41 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : I've fixed the remaining issues, see the attachment (I've also removed unused defs in the SVG, so it's not that big now). Martin Ok. There is no further comment. Shall I push it to git

Re: [Echo]New object-rotate-right icon draft (last of object-* series)

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 15:46 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: So that was the bug from echo-artist package. Good to see the process is fixed. The only bug I am aware of so far was exposed in this commit:

Re: Solar InvinXble Updates

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:53 +0200, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all! Here we are again... I've uploaded on the wiki all the requested materiale for Fedora 10 Theme. U find all here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar

Re: Neon update.

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 19:17 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: I've been recently working on the graphics and trying to gather up all of the needed items. So far, I have all that I have available posted on the official proposal page[1]. I know that I have SysLinux Splash + GRUB left to do.

Re: Using Fedora Hosted Space for Art Team?

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:41 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Hi, we've briefly discussed with Mo on the irc, that it might be worth setting up a fedorahosted.org instance for the Fedora Art Team. Primary purpose would be to host our release graphics, but it could

Re: [Echo] New object-rotate-left icon set draft

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:45 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Based on object-flip* model. I have not done the right version because it depends on this set. Comments welcome. Luya 32x32 and 48x48 are have blurry the vertical lines on the left, 22x22 is a little blurry on the top. The bent

Re: [Echo] New mail-* icons (total of eleven icons)

2008-09-15 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 11:35 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: You have two icons, one pointing left (reply) and another pointing right (forward). Not sure the likeness to the forward operation is wise. Here is how this icon looks in the default Thunderbird theme: the same back arrow as for reply

Re: [Echo] working on new mail-* action icons

2008-09-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 00:34 +0200, Mark wrote: Hi Martin, I'm glad to see this icon but at the same time makes me really wonder something. In the days that you made the current mail icon i said that it looked ugly and so not mail like (maybe not in those words but that was the result) And

[Echo] New mail-* icons (total of eleven icons)

2008-09-13 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just finished drawing the mail-* icons from the Action context. It's a total of eleven icons and it took me a lot of time to create theme :-D Anyway, generally I am content with the look of the icons (otherwise I would not post it here...) but still think there might be done some

Re: [Echo] working on new mail-* action icons

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:10 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Looks good. Are you using this icon as the base for other variants? Otherwise, I have no comment. Luya Yes, this icons is intended as the base for all the mail-* action icons that will contain letter folder

Re: [Echo] New object-* icon set draf (part 2)

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 11:51 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 02:05 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Based on object-flip-horizontal as a simple transformation did the trick. Comment welcome. Luya The 22x22 is a little blurry. I think it's a little offset from it's

Re: [Echo] New object-* icon set draft (part 1)

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 02:02 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : The metaphor is good. Now for the design: * You can use darker orange for the gradient, with more contrast. * The icons for 48x48 and smaller are far too small

Re: [Echo] New object-* icon set draf (part 2)

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:02 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Oh and don't forget to add scalable label to the 48x48 icon (I just noticed it when checking what's wrong with the 22x22). The 22x22 is indeed just a little off-set from the pixel grid

Re: [Fedora-art-list] New member

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 00:14 +0300, Γεωργιος Ζαραφίδης wrote: Greetings list! First of all let me introduce myself. My name is George Zarafidis, age 23 years old, studying Communications and Informatics and the Technological Institute of Serres. Some bio. I am one of the creators of the

Re: [Echo] New system-root-password icon set draft

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 00:48 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: First draft of that set. Details have been intentionally left thougt it will be added on huge sized icon (256x256). Luya Good. Some comments: * the 16x16 is not symmetric, which makes it looks a little bit

Re: [Echo] New system-root-password icon set draft

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 02:25 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Good. Some comments: * the 16x16 is not symmetric, which makes it looks a little bit strange Should be fixed. Hm.. does not seems so... the left side is straight up, while

Re: [Echo] New system-root-password icon set draft

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
Yup, I'll handle it once you finish this icon (and I upload the authentication one...). err... I meant the network-control one :-D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list

Re: Solar Round 3 - Ended?

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 18:34 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Samuele Storari wrote: I need just a little help, someone can help with the Welcome Screen and help me using the Echo Icons? Where I can find them? Which one I have to use, and what I don't have to use? Here are the icons:

Re: [Echo] New system-root-password icon set draft

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
- Applied Nicu's suggestion on all size but 16x16 icon. - Set the shadow sightly below the icon. Luya Reference: -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/status/system-root-password.svg Looking good. But looking at the icons with circle but without echo brand, it came to my

Re: [Echo] New system-root-password icon set draft

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:15 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Here is the modified version. I took time to sightly set shadow below the icon. Luya Reference: -- http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/status/system-root-password.svg I think you can safely remove the echo brand in

[Echo] New package releases, first echo-add-icon script bug

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, Luya just hit first echo-add-icon script bug - it adds incorrect file references in the build scripts if the folder is empty (sans Makefile.am) before the commit (in this case it added system-root-password.svg.png to 256x256/status/Makefile.am). I fixed the commit as well as the bug in

Re: Last-minute request - any packagers for wallpapers in beta?

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:12 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey, Jesse told me that if we could get a package put together with the wallpapers that are in the running so far it could make the Beta. Here are the wallpapers I'd propose packaging up: gears

Re: Last-minute request - any packagers for wallpapers in beta?

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 14:38 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: CC-BY-SA is fine for Gears I'm sure. Good I hope it's the same for other themes as well. Sounds good. I think you need to modify or add an xml file or something to get them to appear in the capplet, no? Yeah, that wasn't that hard,

Re: Criteria for theme selection

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 22:27 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: Sorry for off topic, but could you please reconfigure your mail client to use traditional Re: in subject instead of just R:? It breaks threading in GMail (if not everything else) and it's very hard to follow discussion Just for the

Re: Solar Critique (was Re: Solar Round 3 - Almost ended)

2008-09-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 10:30 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Some feedback on solar thus far: - Where did the icons in the firstboot splash come from? We should be using gnome-icon-theme or Echo icons ideally. However it's not clear to me where this icons came from; we can't be using artwork

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 09:15 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Here is the list of stock items: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/gtk-Stock-Items.html Even though the same team drew both GTK+ stock and gnome-icon-theme, we only ship icon-naming-spec stuff with gnome-icon-theme. So even

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 11:01 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: No, there is no plan to do that, and it is not really possible either. Those strings are compiled into millions of binaries all over the world... Not sure about that. As long as we keep the symlinks in icon themes, but change the gtk

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 20:01 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 11:09 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Heh, didn't occurred to me that I could check gtk docs :-D Thanks for the link, seems like many of the stock icons are already in the icon

[Echo] Icons that need to be done

2008-09-07 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've put together first version of a list of icons that need to be done to fill the gaps in icon naming specs and I'm going to look into Desktop Live Spin to see which of them are actually displayed there. I attach the list and will transfer it gradually to wiki together with the check of

Re: [Echo] Icons that need to be done - update

2008-09-07 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 14:49 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I've put together first version of a list of icons that need to be done to fill the gaps in icon naming specs and I'm going to look into Desktop Live Spin to see which of them are actually displayed there. I attach the list

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:47 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Fesco has accepted echo-icon-theme as default icon theme for Fedora 10.[1] Which means we need to push harder to include as many icons as possible using guideline and echo-artist tool now available on rawhide and is waiting for people

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:48 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Using echo-canvas template, here is icon set of utilities-lvm. It is basically an updated version of upstream with echo-style. Feedback welcome. Luya Few comments: * to me it seems too tall, perhaps it would look more like

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 11:00 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Few comments: * to me it seems too tall, perhaps it would look more like rotational cylinder if it were a little shorter * it's missing shadow * the 16x16 is not recognizable * can you use dark

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:48 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Using echo-canvas template, here is icon set of utilities-lvm. It is basically an updated version of upstream with echo-style. Feedback welcome. Luya Ok, found some issues with echo-add-icon: * You need to add context (in

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:01 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Ok, found some issues with echo-add-icon: * You need to add context (in this case app) to document properties in document metadata (this would have been done automatically

Re: Solar round3 first step

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 17:35 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: What's the Splash graphic for? GNOME doesn't use splash anymore and KDE doesn't support alpha blending with desktop =( That's for anaconda, as can be seen in the picture above this one. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a

[Echo] Guidelines change, tutorials update, new screencasts

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've done some work on Echo wiki today and added Huge size guideline and One Canvas guideline to the Echo Guidelines [1]. Also with the introduction of the new echo-artist scripts, I updated some Echo tutorials [2][3] and created three new screen-casts [4][5][6] showing how to use these

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 09:35 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I'm here... So, I think we need to act quickly to make Echo the default for the beta, to test the waters before F10. For Gnome, the way to do that is to change the inheritance of the Fedora icon theme to pull in Echo instead of Mist.

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 10:24 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Here is fixed icons. Gradient are removed on outline for sightly brighter 48x48 icon and lower. Luya Generally looking good, but still needs improvement: * 16x16 icon is blurry - display rectangular grid (the

Re: [Echo] New preferences-system-bootloader icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 11:27 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: A difficult icon to create. This version is a variant of system-standby iconset. Luya The metaphor might work (as we already discussed on #fedora-art), but I think it should be in apps context which means it needs to have isometric

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 11:51 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Generally looking good, but still needs improvement: * 16x16 icon is blurry - display rectangular grid (the axonometric grid does not fit with pixel grid) and fix the lines

Re: [Echo] New utilities-lvm icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 12:16 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Whoops, here is the correct version. Luya Looking good. No further comments. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com

Re: [Echo] New preferences-system-bootloader icon set draft

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 12:18 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Updated version with axonometric perspective. Luya The shadow is still using the on-the-table perspective. Also it feels a little different than other axonometric icons. Perhaps comparison with some cube-like icon would help to

Re: Good news about Echo

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 20:21 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 01:08 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Just a note that Fesco (and many art team members as well) has some concerns about coverage. Simply said if we don't achieve the Mist/gnome icon

Re: Photo for InvinXble

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:55 +0200, Samuele Storari wrote: Hi all As we said some days ago, now I'got a shoot of the Katana for the InvinXble theme. http://flickr.com/photos/sstorari/2826852493/ Last question: What kind of license I need? I used a CC license, I hope it is the right

Re: [Echo] New preferences-system-authentication icon set

2008-09-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 00:39 +0200, Hylke Bons wrote: Just an overall comment: I find the smaller sizes of echo-icon-theme (16x16 and 22x22) very hard to recognize. This is because the isometric perspective doesn't work there. Are there plans of making them better? Hylke We are doing our

Re: [Echo] Need feedback about Features Echo Icon theme

2008-09-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:53 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: I have updated the feature session for Echo in order to get reviewed by Fesco. I am also sent a copy to desktop list. Feedback is welcome I think you should mention that Echo is already available in the

Echo Monthly News, Issue 1

2008-09-01 Thread Martin Sourada
The echo-icon-theme development team just officially released its first Echo Monthly News Issue [1]. In this release we cover these sections: 1. New Icons 2. Huge icons - 256x256 3. One Canvas Work-Flow 4. Automating the secondary jobs 1. Add a new icon set to Git

[Echo] August 2008 News

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, Since some important things happened in echo-icon-theme last month I decided summarize them in one e-mail. New icons - We've created/fixed some new icons, concretely: * preferences-system-date * preferences-system-firewall * preferences-system-users *

Re: [Echo] Updated echo-add-icon Script + Usage Screencast

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 17:44 +0200, Mark wrote: Hi Martin, Just wondering... why did you make this script in ruby and not in bash? Seems to me that all needed things are possible in bash for this script. Just curious about that. Nice screencast btw. Not sure about the svg (xml)

Re: [Echo] August 2008 News

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 14:38 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Good idea to have a monthly news for Echo. That will good to set that page on fedorahosted.org as well although trac might need some modification. Like what I did in my blogpost [1]? Martin References: [1]

[Echo] user scripts updates

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just committed some changes for the echo-artist scripts. First I added echo-new-icon [1] script which creates new source SVG for given icon, with given icon name and icon context from template (it looks for ~/Templates/echo-one-canvas-template.svg and

Re: [Echo] August 2008 News

2008-08-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 18:10 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Like what I did in my blogpost [1]? Yes. I'll transfer it to Trac tomorrow then :-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 01:27 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: So let's get both artwork and desktop team decide by consensus to include echo-icon-theme as default iconset for Fedora 10. It is used not only on fedora project wiki but alsoo smolt, transifex and fedora-fr.org. It will be an

Re: Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Some information on the current % would be good. Rahul Indeed, but it's not so easy as it might seem. We could count the coverage of the icon-naming-specs, we could count the coverage of gnome menus in desktop live cd, coverage of main

Re: Echo for F10? [was: Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier]

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:46 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: What about the percentage of coverage you're going to see on a fresh Fedora install, in all apps etc? That would not be so easy to count... Even for gnome menus its a lot of work... Is the number higher than the current default style?

[Echo] Updated echo-add-icon Script + Usage Screencast

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just finished the echo-add-icon script mentioned yesterday [1]. It currently does all I wanted it to do, i.e.: * generate all necessary PNGs and SVGs and put them into git repo * makes new commit with user given message * suggests user what he should do

Re: [Echo] Updated echo-add-icon Script + Usage Screencast

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 14:08 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the above mentioned screencast I outlined how the source SVG looks like and what is the usage of the echo-add-icon script. I appreciate any comments/help on the script [attached

[Echo] echo-set-up Script

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've just finished initial version of echo-set-up script. It's interactive (and written again in ruby), and I hope it's pretty straightforward. It does basically these things: * clones fh.o echo git repo to your selected location (defaults to ~/Projects/echo-icon-theme)

Re: [Echo] echo-set-up Script

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 22:28 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I've just finished initial version of echo-set-up script. It's interactive (and written again in ruby), and I hope it's pretty straightforward. It does basically these things: * clones fh.o echo git repo to your selected

Re: [Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier

2008-08-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:09 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: See the script made by jimmac (linked in the comments to his blog post): http://pastebin.ca/1071599 Thanks for the link. As noted in my yesterday's blog post [1], I expanded this script a little to better fit our needs [attachment]. I

[Echo] One Canvas workflow + making commits easier

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I think we need to be up to date with technology, so I started downloading the One Canvas Workflow screencast by jimmac [1]. I haven't tried it yet (but going to do so very soon), but from the people who already tried it and shared their thoughts about it, it seems like it would be

Re: [Echo] printer sketches - update

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, here's the proposal for the final version of the printer icon set. I used the One Canvas Workflow and added 256x256 icon (which is *not* just 48x48 one scaled up). Seems like the new workflow is quite helpful in many aspects and also saves some space on HDD (the final SVG is smaller than

Re: [Echo] printer sketches - update

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 17:26 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Actually I had to open the SVG and verify the strokes are the same size as I had the impression they are thinner in the 256x256 (I was wrong, maybe due to the lighter color?) That's intentional. I disliked the strong contrast between

Re: Solar theme Round 2

2008-08-19 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 18:08 +0200, Samuele Storari wrote: ok, thanks all for the patience... Now on the wiki page u really can find all, from the new image to the source file. In this version i tried to use a less brighted sun with and dedicate more space to the content of the desktop.

Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears

2008-08-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 09:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png While I think the all-blue one is less distractive and would work better for a wallpaper, the one with the widget is basically

Re: [Echo] printer sketches

2008-08-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 18:15 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Martin Sourada a écrit : Just a notice that I've redone the other = 22x22 sizes in that style as well. I attach the current candidates for approval (only PNGs). SVGs and the previous tries can be found on my fedorapeople page [1

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