Re: Hi Fedora Art list!

2008-01-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 16:18 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > I have little experience with matroska container can you please point > out the most obvious advantages it has over ogg container. > > Thanks. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_container_formats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: Nodoka GTK Engine 0.7 beta 2 released

2008-01-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 18:28 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Dnia 26-01-2008, sob o godzinie 18:04 +0100, Martin Sourada pisze: > > * scrollbars redesign > > - it is now mac-like and so the slider and steppers has rounded corners. > > It has some problems when

Nodoka GTK Engine 0.7 beta 2 released

2008-01-26 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, today I've released gtk-nodoka-engine-0.6.90.2 (0.7 beta 2), and built packages for rawhide, so with next compose it should appear in repos. As for the looks, it is more or less what will be in F9 final, so now I aim on fixing issues and bugs, so that it would work flawless when Fedora 9 is re

Re: [Echo]Update on accessories-dictionary icon

2008-01-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 22:15 -0500, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I had a busy week with a lot of assignment for Graphic Design class. As a > result, it took me long to update the icons. Here is the set of icons using a > magnifying class to symbolize the dictionary. Feel to suggest otherwise. > Som

Re: Tangoish Fedora logo in Mist-inherited default icon theme

2008-01-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 17:12 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > I know, this topic was here some time ago, but I want it to be > succeeded. > > Scaled down SVG look terrible [1] . > > My proposal is to use modern Tango! palette everywhere, where small > Fedora logo appers, since Fedor

Re: Hi Fedora Art list!

2008-01-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 08:58 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Jan 22, 2008 7:52 AM, Colby Hoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks to a suggestion from Nicu Buculei, I've joined this list mostly > > out of interest in an Art Studio spin of Fedora. I've been working with > > gdk and jspaleta on get

Re: nodoka-related bugs in firefox

2008-01-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 21:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > I've found two bugs in Firefox [1] [2], which are Nodoka-related. > > Not sure if this is your (Nodoka authors') fault, or their fault. > > Just wanted to show them to you, if you know, how to fix them. > Thanks for the

Re: Echo: "system-login-new" attempt

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 23:33 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/1/14, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:50 +0100, Mark wrote: > > > I couldn't find a star as well... > > > > It's attached in the guidelines

Re: Echo: "system-login-new" attempt

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:50 +0100, Mark wrote: > I couldn't find a star as well... It's attached in the guidelines in the pluses and stars section [1]. Martin References: [1] https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines#PlusesandStars signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Echo: "system-login-new" attempt

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:38 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/1/14, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > That little person... It looks odd. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > > > http:/

Re: Echo: "system-login-new" attempt

2008-01-14 Thread Martin Sourada
> That little person... It looks odd. > > > > -- > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ I think that as well. Mark, what about using instead of a person the log-in dialogue? You can come with something similar to the gnome icon (I could not find it on the Internet, so I attach i

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10

2008-01-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:53 +0100, Mark wrote: > the preferences-desktop icon is about as bright as this one is now. > So i think it fits perfectly. > Not at all (IMO). It's not only about how bright it physically is, but also how bright it feels, and in that case you need to compare it with icon

Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons

2008-01-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 15:48 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/1/13, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/1/13, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > New update about the set of multimedia-volume-control. > > > > > > Luya > > > > > > References > > > -- > > > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/image

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10

2008-01-13 Thread Martin Sourada
Hm, I've just opened it in ikscape to see why it looks like looked at through mist, and the main problem here is clearly the outline. Please use darker colour on the outlines than on the icon itself. Brighter borders work good only in some special cases (or with dark icons). Martin signature.asc

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10

2008-01-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 02:04 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/1/13, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 23:53 +0100, Mark wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > i've seen a dozen package-x-generic icons of different icon themes &

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt 10

2008-01-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 23:53 +0100, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > i've seen a dozen package-x-generic icons of different icon themes > that all look better than the current package-x-generic. So i (again) > did an attempt to create a good looking one. > > This icon is partly compatible with the echo gu

Re: [Echo] set of Multimedia-volume-control icons

2008-01-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 00:32 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > New set of icons made named multimedia-volume-control derived from gnome > version.[1] > > Luya > > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimedia-volume-control16.png > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/apps/multimed

Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

2008-01-11 Thread Martin Sourada
> A tab isn't a widget and not a possible focus location itself. Only the > widget inside (usually a label) is. > > I disagree that it cannot be helped. Compare Clearlooks: > http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/clearlooks-tabs.png > I enabled (in git) drawing of focus ring for the widest variety

Re: Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)

2008-01-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 01:37 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/1/11, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:50 +0100, Mark wrote: > > [snip] > > > package(zip/bzip(2)/tar/rar/arj etc) icons > > [snip] > > > > Would be best

Re: Any update on the Echo icon theme status list (and the todo list)

2008-01-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:50 +0100, Mark wrote: [snip] > package(zip/bzip(2)/tar/rar/arj etc) icons [snip] Would be best if you used the one from lighting section of the guidelines [1]. I can send a SVG of this one only (i.e. not being together with the other icons). Thanks, Martin References: [1

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 15:38 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I dislike favourites etc in panels/dock. I even hate it. > Menu with "favourites" is better idea imo. > And what I hate is having a favourites menu which is constantly changing its contents. As for having a favourites menu, I am

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 10:11 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > 2008/1/9, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Valent Turkovic a écrit : > > > > I know that lot of things you can't change because Gnome is > > responsible for that. Nobody has touched gnome >

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:22 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > How do I did it? I just used quick reply in Gmail. You write your answer above the quotation. It's much easier to follow if you can read first what you are answering to and after that the answer. Especially on the mail lists it's

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:09 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Fedora shouldn't change main color! It should only push some freshness > and live to the Linux desktop. > [snip] That's why we have every release new wallpaper and why there is the three round battle. To the first round even non-a

Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:04 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > But why the HDD doesn't lay :> ? > I suppose you meant 'lie'? If so than because it's an action icon and it would look really strange among other action icons if it were lying. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digi

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:59 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Laith Juwaidah wrote: > > > Perhaps we could adopt a "spring" visual theme for the odd-numbered > releases that fall in the spring, and a "fall" visual theme for the > even-numbered releases that

Re: A Thought About F9 Artwork

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:49 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Steven Garrity wrote: > Please look these two screenshots: > http://bayimg.com/MAIAIaaBL > http://bayimg.com/MAiagaABL > > One is FC6 and other is F8. > > Can you make the difference. The differences are subtle, too subtle and > too bla

Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 15:26 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:49 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > A tab isn't a widget and not a possible focus location itself. Only the > > widget inside (usually a label) is. > > > Well, it's actually t

Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

2008-01-09 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 22:49 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > A tab isn't a widget and not a possible focus location itself. Only the > widget inside (usually a label) is. > Well, it's actually the notebook widget that is usually focused (my bad)... I guess I could workaround it, so that if label i

Re: [Echo] updates on document-save(-as) icon set

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:34 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Document-save(-as) icon set is updated [1]. > > Luya > > Reference: > [1]http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/echo/actions/ That's a lot better! What about making it a little more thin like the gnome icon? But nevertheless, this icon

Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 12:45 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 18:18 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > > > > http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/bad-focus2.png > > > And guess where the focus is here ? > > > > > Who knows... I&#

Re: Focus issues in new Nodoka

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 10:26 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Here are some examples showing why I am not a fan of replacing the > traditional focus rectangle by some newfangled glow: > > http://people.redhat.com/mclasen/bad-focus1.png > What is the odd blue line there ? Yes, that is the sad remain

Re: [Echo] Some updates.

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 13:39 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Camera set icon got more modifications. The inline is more lighter to > allow a better transition between value to produce a more volumetric > shape[1]. > > Document-save got revisited to address the issue about the use of floppy > dis

Re: [Echo] Reworked preference-desktop-pda icon

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 12:33 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Mark a écrit : > > Looking good! except for the 16x16. Perhaps a lighter blue color in > > the screen? it seems to dark now compared to his bigger versions. > > > > > > I have modified the 16x16 version. The screen is more light. >

Re: [Echo] Reworked preference-desktop-pda icon

2008-01-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 10:39 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I have taken some time to rework preference-desktop-pda icon for Echo. > For some reasons, it does not replace le legacy Bluecurve version. Some > details might be missing so feel free to adjust them. > > Luya > These are great! I'd m

Re: Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released

2008-01-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 05:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada seznam.cz> writes: > > Nodoka-Aqua > > I think you're infringing on Apple's trademark there, something more generic > like Nodoka-Water, Nodoka-Sea or Nodoka-Ocean might be a better idea. &g

Re: Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 18:31 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: [snip] > I'll notice you when the rawhide package is ready. > > Thanks, > Martin > Ok, the package is now built in koji [1]. I put the additional themes into -extras subpackage. Expect in rawhide after the next compo

Re: Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:00 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hey :) > > A few opinions on it. I haven't commented on every change because that > would be dull boring for everyone reading "awesome" a lot :) > > On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 18:31 +0100, Martin Sourada

Re: Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 20:21 +0100, Joachim Frieben wrote: > On Jan 5, 2008 6:31 PM, Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > [3] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/Screenshots > > This URL is badly chosen, as for FF3 and equivalent, it leads

Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 released

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi all, I've just released Nodoka 0.7 beta 1 [1], which is first major step towards Nodoka 0.7 stable and as such I'll package it for rawhide for testing. The changes from 0.6.1 (latest stable) are: * Scroll Bars redesign * New code for drawing Tabs (more efficient) * Rem

[Echo] Final guidelines draft, final icon naming proposals draft, final new gallery

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I have worked a little on Echo lately, partly because our gallery needed update to fedorahosted.org git repos [0]... So I decided to work a little on it and finish it [1]. It now includes all icons that are in the icon naming specification [2] as well as icons proposed in the icon naming propo

[Nodoka] News - scrollbar and focus ring redesign, git restructuralisation

2007-12-29 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I thought I could inform you about some changes I did recently to Nodoka. First, I implemented new scrollbar design, also I began work on new focus ring. In most cases the focus indication should be now handled correctly, though the design is not yet final (I expect to finalise it based on my

Re: Form widgets on fpo website

2007-12-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 01:38 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: > Why should I do a google search for something you're arguing for? > I don't have a problem with what I'm seeing when I visit the page. > Just for the sake of not arguing, I did do a google search for > both "native widgets" and didn't

Re: Echo set of camera-photo icons draft

2007-12-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 03:20 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > That camera-photo looks good even without flash. It is only an icon so > no further details are needed. Here is the draft of smaller sizes along > the modified version. > > Luya > > References: > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/ech

Re: Echo set of camera-photo icons draft

2007-12-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 11:12 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > That was my early ill attempt. x_x > Maybe that shape[2] will do and I will try that later. > > Reference: > [2]http://www.londondrugs.com/msib20/ProductImages/2715803_large.jpg > > What about something like this one? It still needs

Re: Echo set of camera-photo icons draft

2007-12-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 08:59 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit : > > It's better, but in size we can't get more readable :( . > Removed the trace of gradient around border for extra small size. > The look should be clearer. > > > Luya Hi, I think this one looks mor

Re: Echo set of camera-photo icons draft

2007-12-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 09:03 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Luya, you did it :) ! > > 2007/12/23, Luya Tshimbalanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit : > > It's better, but in size we can't get more readable :( . > Removed the trace of gradient arou

Re: Updated 22x22 go-down and more

2007-12-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 11:58 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > They're great. > Good you like them :) I attach the rest (only with linear gradient now). Thanks, Martin <><><><><><><> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part _

Re: Updated 22x22 go-down and more

2007-12-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 10:50 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > I think the shape looks overall better, but it seems to me like if the > arrows were dirty... I'll give it a try later myself, to see what can be > improved. Maybe the blue gradient could be slightly different - either >

Re: Updated 22x22 go-down and more

2007-12-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 10:25 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > For me, it looks too dark. I have brought modifications to the go-down22 > icon by increasing the border to 1.5px. It looks more visible and much > better than earlier model. > Here is the latest version: > > Reference: > http://luya.fe

Re: Testing Firefox 3 Beta 2 with native icons

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:05 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Ok, but if I'll see any Echo icon hardcoded in app like Pup you'll have > war... > Icons should NOT be hard-coded into applications, IMHO ;-) Always better filling bugs about using system-wide accessible icons, rather than about w

Re: Testing Firefox 3 Beta 2 with native icons

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:59 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Spinner, search icon, dropdown button in location bar and location bar's > autocomplete are not native (I hope not yet). > > PS: Echo looks ugly here, because the arrows don't use the actual Echo > style and they have no gradients.

Re: Redesigning keyboard icon and its derivates

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 13:01 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > GNOME icon theme has whole keyboard without details - it looks better. > Also, your icon has too big contrast. > > And one more thing, Echo will be photo realistic icons? Not good, > especially in small sizes. > Echo will be some

Re: 22x22 go-down icons

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 08:06 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Just made a 22x22 go-down arrow perspectives for echo. The tricky part > was the extrusion technique which I used three non-outlined rectangle. I > wonder if there is another technique to give a 3D dimension in a 2D > perspective. Thank

Re: Redesigning keyboard icon and its derivates

2007-12-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 06:39 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Updated keyboard draft with only four buttons. Used the cropping > technique as rendering the keyboard might be tricky. Remember a keyboard > does not have to be for computer, > > Luya The border seems to dark, also the iso perspective

Re: Redesigning keyboard icon and its derivates

2007-12-19 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 09:26 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > New redesigned keyboard for Echo. Following Mairin (sorry for the > spelling), the latest version now has gap of 1px. I am hesitant to set > the 22x22 or 24x24 in either isometric or flat. The 16x16 has a thicker > border and 4 buttons.

[F9 Artwork Proposal] Waves

2007-12-18 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I had in mind some time an idea of having waves based artwork, so I quickly sketched three different images: * one based simply on amplitude - more or less what you see when you throw some stones into watter * one based on "photo of wave" - more or less what you see you wave with some piec

Re: GDM Idea

2007-12-15 Thread Martin Sourada
> I like the idea of suse and fedora should have that. > Also with the idea to change login manager.. i think that's very good > to do. I'm currently using SLiM (on Arch Linux.. i dropped fedora for > a while to see what else is around) and i'm impressed by the > simplicity and speed of SLiM. the b

Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 07:10 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > It's bug... I didn't see dotted border anywhere. Where did you see? > If in Firefox, don't worry - it emulates GTK. > I don't use firefox... and when I was working on getting the nodoka engine finished it caused me some pain. The GT

Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 23:32 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > You mean button's focus style or button's style? > > > > Not replying to this very message, but couldn't find a better one

Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > You mean button's focus style or button's style? > Not replying to this very message, but couldn't find a better one... If you'd like to comment on the focus ring it would be nice to add your ideas to the enhancement [1] I create

Re: Nodoka rounded corners for the gtk progress bar

2007-12-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 22:21 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: > Charlie Brej wrote: > > I made a small patch to give the progress bar rounded corners. > Did anyone take a look at this? > Oh, sorry, I didn't have time yet (sort of busy time of year, will get better around Christmas)... I looked at the pa

Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme

2007-12-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 07:31 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I didn't remember: did I send a feature request about menu and toolbar > gradients, etc? > Neither do I. Better use trac on fedorahosted or bugzilla on redhat for feature requests. In the art-list it gets easily lost... Art list is

Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron's theme

2007-12-11 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 23:50 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: > Back on topic. I have to agree with Laith here. The potential that > Ubuntu has with the menu setup is looking rather nice. Not sure I like > the rounded edges for the hightlights inside the menu though. The > tooltips are also lookin

Adjusting Nodoka Metacity

2007-12-05 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I have not enough time now to do things fast (this time of year is rather a busy one...), but I started adjusting the Nodoka metacity. The main reason for this was to make it more adjustable (meaning the button positions), so that the Mac OS X button ordering would work as expected. That neede

Re: KDE: Default Style

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:26 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > -1 > > I don't think they should be identical. Let's face it! KDE has better > looks than GNOME, and that was one of the reasons why I am using KDE, Let's face the fact that this is quite subjective. The default KDE look seems to me like

Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Sourada
I don't know, what he meant, but he replied so that I am not sure the others caught what I meant - I mean focus ring style for other components than button, that can have focus, as well. On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 17:34 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > You mean button's focus style or button's sty

Re: Nodoka: Focus Ring

2007-12-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 19:44 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > Murrine is modern GTK engine, which was basis for Nodoka. > Nodoka is also a modern GTK engine. > > Clearlooks is other GTK engine, also modern (it's kinda stupid, all are > modern :> ?). > > Clearlooks in SVN changed fo

Re: Usability - SIG, Spin, Echo icons [was Re: Icon theme for ubuntu]

2007-11-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 11:17 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > I just walked away from the screen to see which icons would work at that > distance - I would disagree that you have well defined shapes to begin > with. I also remind you that having a strong black outline helps the > brain define the shap

Re: Usability - SIG, Spin, Echo icons [was Re: Icon theme for ubuntu]

2007-11-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 01:42 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > Generally, iso prespective make the icons look smaller, please remember > that at this size both detail level and shape affects how easily you can > utilize the brains wonderful pattern recognition abilities. I would > strip the detail level

Re: Icon theme for ubuntu

2007-11-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 23:03 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > Okay since you seem to think I rant I'll do an itemed list, sound good? > > 1) From previous debates on the list, Echo specifically does not target > being accessible - that is perfectly okay but it makes it a less > appealing choice as th

Usability - SIG, Spin, Echo icons [was Re: Icon theme for ubuntu]

2007-11-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 21:54 +0100, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: > > > Shall I start filing bugs on all the components in Fedora that currently > > does not accept an easy theme change such as rhgb, gdm, anaconda and so > > on (preferredly something like replacing the fedora-artwork

Re: Icon theme for ubuntu

2007-11-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 14:14 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Because I have no graphic skills. > Don't tell me "shut up", even in a subtle way, because I don't want > Fedora to look like ugly piece of dog's... shit. > Please, don't use harsh expressions. It is your opinion and you ought to b

New Echo release

2007-11-20 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, some time ago I released new version of Echo (0.3.1) in order to fix rhbz #333231 [1] and released it to rawhide. It is basically a snapshot of trunk, but with disabled SVGs. I am considering to release it as an update to F8 as well, what do you think Luya? Martin References: [1] https://bug

Re: [Draft] alternate Echo version of user-info

2007-11-20 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 10:33 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Slight modification. Switched the body to metallic gray gradient. > > Luya Seems good to me, perhaps the body could be a little lighter but it is fine as is as well... Jakub? You were the one who had most critics... Are you OK with thi

Re: [Draft] alternate Echo version of user-info

2007-11-19 Thread Martin Sourada
Luya and others, as most of you already know, I am for following the gnome shapes for icons as much as possible in the Echo theme, so I looked how the user-info icon looks in gnome icon theme and I would suggest to use the icon we have for user + emblem with 'i' inside (instead of the current '?')

Re: [Draft] alternate Echo version of user-info

2007-11-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 12:19 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 12:12 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Following Ben suggestion > > > > Luya > > Hi Luya, > > I have no critics for the original version, but the one with card would > be

Re: [Draft] alternate Echo version of user-info

2007-11-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 12:12 +0100, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Following Ben suggestion > > Luya Hi Luya, I have no critics for the original version, but the one with card would be probably better... As for the actual looking of the version with card, to me it seems more like deformed version of

Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:32 +0100, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 10:58 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) . > > > > I absolutely hate to be "that guy" but... the name decision is not ours > > (Art Te

Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 21:37 +0100, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 11:25 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2007 10:54 AM, Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unicorn, like a werewolf is a mythical creature. > > > > > > -jef"and the best high school sports mascot ev

Re: F9 Name Proposal

2007-11-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 20:01 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Simply - Owl, Nightbird, Humming or Bird :) . > I would go for Nosferatu [1] (nice connection to Werewolf)... References: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu_%28word%29 ___ Fe

Re: [Fwd: F8 Nodoka Engine Animation Disabled by Default]

2007-11-12 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 18:04 +0100, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > email message attachment (F8 Nodoka Engine Animation Disabled by > Default.eml) > > Forwarded Message > > From: Marc Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: For users of Fedora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: F8 Features pdf

2007-11-07 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:12 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: > I've always had a history of making layouts too tight, so I'll work on > that as well. For the borders part, you'd like to see 1in margins? I can > certainly adjust the gap between the columns though. It's a habit caused by TeX default

Re: F8 Features pdf

2007-11-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 21:05 +0100, Michael Beckwith wrote: > I am in need of some help and/or suggestions for decoration of a pdf > intended to display all of the upcoming features in Fedora 8. You can > find what I have as of early this afternoon, at > > http://tw2113.fedorapeople.org/fed_overv

Re: Fwd: Nodoka Window Decoration for KDE

2007-11-04 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Laith, On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 21:05 +0100, Laith Juwaidah wrote: > Humm... > > That wasn't as helpful as I expected it to be... > > I can't use that to create this theme 'cause it is partially > transparent... > Of course... he took the screenshot with compiz/beryl enabled... > I know the hov

Re: Nodoka

2007-10-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 15:19 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to show you, how perfect Nodoka looks with Inverted metacity > theme [1]. > > > 1| http://img.wklej.org/images/71015nodoka-inverted.png > Hi, I can only say yes, you are right. It fits nicely together. Thanks

[Echo] network-workgroup icon fixing, status listings in git

2007-10-26 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've prepared fixed version of the network-workgroup icon for all sizes. You can find the PNGs and SVGs at my pages [1]. Comments welcome. Next information is that I uploaded to the git lists of icons (those in specs are complete, those that are not in specs are to be filled) which are used t

Re: Echo Icons changed (WAS: Re: Icons enlarged)

2007-10-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 14:20 +0200, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 21:22 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > I may have missed this topic/bug if it was discussed due to some other > > reasons, but wanted to point it out anyway just in case. I have noticed > > that after today's rawhide u

Re: echo-icon-theme package maintainership

2007-10-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 22:44 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Quoting Matthias Clasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > It is encouraging to see that you seem to be back to making Echo a great > > icon theme. I wonder if we can arrange for someone who is actively > > involved in the echo effort to take o

Re: [Echo ]Recreating the Status Pages once again

2007-10-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 21:34 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Hi Martin! Hi Andreas! > The application icons are named as their application, so the Icon entry > in the desktop-files refer to these names: > totem instead of multimedia-video-player > rhythmbox instead of multimedia-audio-player > ink

Re: echo icon theme information

2007-10-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 12:57 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:41 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > > Were the supposed problems for echo-icon-theme in f7 solved for f8? > > Actually I'm using it in F7 from the beginning and didn't have any >

Re: echo icon theme information

2007-10-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:41 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Were the supposed problems for echo-icon-theme in f7 solved for f8? > Actually I'm using it in F7 from the beginning and didn't have any > rendering problems at all > I think it was far better than default; what about > echo-icon-theme

Re: Is it possible to make the bettery icons scripted?

2007-09-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 17:29 +0200, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > I was just looking throught the echo icons [1] and saw the battery > icons there (which are extremely nice) but i was wondering if those > icons could be made scripted? > > This is the idea: > The bettery applet shows in the notification a

Re: [Echo ]Recreating the Status Pages once again

2007-09-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 18:59 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > the rest of the pages. Will let you know when I am finished with > recreating the things that are in specs. > > Martin > I have finished the pages for icons that are in the icon naming specs. Only the Actions [1] currentl

Re: [Echo ]Recreating the Status Pages once again

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 18:08 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I was going through the Trac help in search of table styling > capabilities of its wiki to improve the Icon Theme Status page [1]. In > the process I came to a conclusion it would be better to include the > tabl

[Echo ]Recreating the Status Pages once again

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I was going through the Trac help in search of table styling capabilities of its wiki to improve the Icon Theme Status page [1]. In the process I came to a conclusion it would be better to include the tables as raw HTML and that it would be better to split the status page to more pages. And be

Re: Lighter Nodoka design

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 11:39 +0200, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, > > I have one question/proposal. > Why Nodoka has so bright colors (I mean very light blue)? > > Little bit darker blue and beige will make Nodoka integrate better with > Infinity theme. > I plan to provide different colour

Re: [Echo] from which icon set derive missing icons?

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 10:58 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the current state of things in Echo is that we derive first from > > Clearlooks and then from Gnome. I'd suggest to drop the Clearlooks as > > the Gnome icon t

Re: [Echo] from which icon set derive missing icons?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 20:12 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Quoting Martin Sourada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > We should focus on deriving from Gnome icons because they are more modern > than > the legacy Bluecurve. The odd is the latter has more icons than either Gnome >

Re: [Echo] from which icon set derive missing icons?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 20:18 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 18:56 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the current state of things in Echo is that we derive first from > > Clearlooks and then from Gnome. I'd suggest to drop the Clearl

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