Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes

2009-11-30 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2009/11/28 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcvaux.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires

Re: rpms/php-facedetect/EL-5 php-facedetect.spec,1.1,1.2

2009-11-30 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Can this commit be reverted? It was requested to rebuild package only for rawhide! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530717 2009/11/30 topdog top...@fedoraproject.org: Author: topdog Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/php-facedetect/EL-5 In directory

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote: I have two sound cards installed: one onboard and another PCI. The PCI, the one I do no use very much, works fine. The onboard is the one which does not save the volumes. Every time I call an application its master

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes: xmms, mplayer and audacious. Interesting. Maybe these programs try to be too clever and force the volume themselves. The solution is using

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not managing the current network connection, then Firefox starts up in

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Steven Whitehouse
Hi, On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:55 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:15 +0100, Michal wrote: Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes: xmms, mplayer and audacious. Interesting. Maybe these programs try to be too clever

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Paul Howarth
On 30/11/09 09:55, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not managing the current

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:12:38 +0100 Michael Schwendt napsal(a): On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:15 +0100, Michal wrote: Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes: xmms, mplayer

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 11:36 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:12:38 +0100 Michael Schwendt napsal(a): On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:15 +0100, Michal wrote: Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3

Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images

2009-11-30 Thread Paolo Ciarrocchi
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Alexandre Oliva aol...@redhat.com wrote: On Nov 24, 2009, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, we may rename the Live images to i386. Yes, please make the naming scheme consistent. Ciao, -- Paolo -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Pierre-Yves pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: Looking at: $ yum whatprovides *.la |grep x86_64 |wc -l 190 surprises me a bit. Do we have 189 bugs waiting to be filled ? (I filled one this morning) I guess some of these cannot be changed but I guess some can. It's

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
Hi PY, On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:56, Pierre-Yves pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: Dear all, Looking at: $ yum whatprovides *.la |grep x86_64 |wc -l 190 surprises me a bit. Do we have 189 bugs waiting to be filled ? (I filled one this morning) I guess some of these cannot be changed but I

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 13:12 +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: sugar-base-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 : Base Sugar library I'm co-maintaining it, so I'll try to have a look at this one. I'm just pointing out this : Note that if you are updating a library in a stable release (not devel) and

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:43:10 +, Bastien wrote: Notice that the documentation for pa_stream_connect_playback strongly recommends passing NULL as volume. This looks correct, you're never supposed to restore volume yourself when using PulseAudio. Which is exactly my fix that went into

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 14:03 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Pierre-Yves pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: Looking at: $ yum whatprovides *.la |grep x86_64 |wc -l 190 surprises me a bit. Do we have 189 bugs waiting to be filled ? (I filled one this morning) I

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 01:40:38PM +0100, Pierre-Yves wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 14:03 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Pierre-Yves pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: mingw32-zlib-0:1.2.3-19.fc12.noarch All mingw32- RPMs containing DLLs are required to ship the

Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes

2009-11-30 Thread Rex Dieter
Nicolas Chauvet wrote: 2009/11/28 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcvaux.so.2

Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes

2009-11-30 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2009/11/30 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Nicolas Chauvet wrote: 2009/11/28 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:03 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote: The list being: I'd like to see _sources_ (the list should be smaller as I guess). And please sort it :-) If I run: for i in $(repoquery --disablerepo=rpmfusion\* -f *.la --qf=%{name}.%{arch} | grep x86_64 | sort | uniq); do repoquery

Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes

2009-11-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/11/2009 14:09, Rex Dieter a écrit : Nicolas Chauvet wrote: 2009/11/28 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686

Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/28/2009 10:39 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Sir Gallantmon wrote: Why not label it x86_32 instead of i386? That is far less confusing and illustrates that it is 32-bit on the x86 architecture, since x86_64 says it is 64-bit on x86 architecture. Because x86_32 is not an architecture

rawhide report: 20091130 changes

2009-11-30 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Nov 30 08:15:20 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libefilterbar.so.0 blacs-mpich2-1.1-33.fc12.i686

Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/27/2009 02:25 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/27/2009 06:03 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 03:28:19AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: A literal zero prior to preprocessing is either a bug, or some kind of dead- code causing place-holder. Not necessarily .. the C

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-11-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 01:25:08PM +0100, Pierre-Yves wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 13:12 +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: sugar-base-0.86.0-1.fc12.x86_64 : Base Sugar library I'm co-maintaining it, so I'll try to have a look at this one. I'm just pointing out this : Note that

Re: Looking for testers: RPM 4.8 pre-release snapshots available

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/27/2009 03:05 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: For an idea what to expect, see the draft release notes at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0 I notice that explicit ordering syntax that doesn't trigger a strict requires isn't on this list. It's really something we need sooner rather than

Re: orphaning dblatex

2009-11-30 Thread Jon Ciesla
Neal Becker wrote: I no longer wish to maintain dblatex. Any takers? I can if none of the co-maintainers want it. -J -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/28/2009 10:23 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess both vim and emacs

Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/30/2009 10:39 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/27/2009 02:25 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/27/2009 06:03 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 03:28:19AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: A literal zero prior to preprocessing is either a bug, or some kind of dead- code causing

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 11:26 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/28/2009 10:23 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the distribution shows Fedora

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/27/2009 04:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Physics don't. A two dimensional screen will never be able to more than simulate 3D. 3D requires more dead dinosaurs, coal and/or other sources of electrical energy than 2D to produce. This isn't necessarily the case, in theory or in practice. I

Re: example content

2009-11-30 Thread David Zeuthen
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 14:15 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: Hey, one change we are planning to make to the desktop spin in F13 is to go from targeting a cd to targeting a 1g usb stick. Why 1GB? It seemed to me, when discussing this earlier on this list, that everyone agreed that 2GB made much

Re: example content

2009-11-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 22:39 -0600, Mel Chua wrote: Because it's brainstorm time and I'm procrastinating on FUDCon accounting... ;) * FWN podcast, http://www.braincache.de/wp/2009/11/15/fwn-fedora-weekly-news-201. * the http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list might have

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-30 Thread Matthias Clasen
Trying to respond to several points that were raised in this thread... 1. If live cds are as indispensable as you claim they are, it will be relatively straightforward to produce them for F13 simply by omitting the big items that will push us over the cd size limit, ie OpenOffice, example

RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Jerry James
I'm looking into a gcl bug (I maintain gcl): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541050. The problem appears to be that the order of RPM installation is unpredictable. There is a subpackage, gcl-selinux, which provides policy files for use by other packages that build executables with

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:29:31 -0700, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: This works great when the main gcl package is installed first, followed by the gcl-selinux package. However, sometimes RPM installs them in the other order. When that happens, the fixfiles invocation fails

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Jerry James wrote, at 12/01/2009 02:29 AM +9:00: I'm looking into a gcl bug (I maintain gcl): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541050. The problem appears to be that the order of RPM installation is unpredictable. There is a subpackage, gcl-selinux, which provides policy files for

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Mamoru Tasaka wrote, at 12/01/2009 02:51 AM +9:00: Jerry James wrote, at 12/01/2009 02:29 AM +9:00: I'm looking into a gcl bug (I maintain gcl): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541050. The problem appears to be that the order of RPM installation is unpredictable. There is a

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp wrote: Ah, rather gcl package has Requires: gcl-selinux = %{version}-%{release}, so currently I am not sure what you want. Ah, right, I'd forgotten that we did that to satisfy the need for a couple of other packages to

Re: Ubuntu Xorg Guru calls for help. Was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Linuxguy123 wrote: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-X.org-Guru-Calls-for- Desktop-Help They did exactly what some people suggested we do in this thread: stick with an old X.org X11 release and try to fix its bugs on their own. You can see the result in the article and its

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:05 +, Steven Whitehouse wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:55 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jerry James wrote: Is there a canonical way of dealing with such issues? I need to run fixfiles after BOTH gcl and gcl-selinux have been installed. How can I ensure that? (I suppose I could invoke fixfiles in %post scripts for both gcl and gcl-selinux, so that whichever one runs last does

Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/30/2009 11:39 AM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:39 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/27/2009 02:25 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/27/2009 06:03 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 03:28:19AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: A literal zero prior to preprocessing is

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:00:49 -0700, Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp wrote: Ah, rather gcl package has Requires: gcl-selinux = %{version}-%{release}, so currently I am not sure what you want. Ah,

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:55 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Rudolf Kastl writes: intel (i965) works fine... You are lucky. Major regressions there in F-12. On my hardware, this used to work when nomodeset was passed to kernel. Now, it doesn't any more. With KMS, on the other hand,

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/30/2009 12:27 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: 3. 'Chain-booting' from cd to usb sounds like an elegant way to avoid the 'Can't boot USB' problem. Did we figure out how Mandriva are doing it ? No, we didn't. There are some things we might be able to do here, though, which may solve this

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/11/2009 19:24, Jud Craft a écrit : On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Rudolf Kastl writes: intel (i965) works fine... You are lucky. Major regressions there in F-12. On my hardware, this used to work when nomodeset was passed to kernel. Now, it doesn't any more.

Re: RPM installation order

2009-11-30 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: I don't believe that would be correct. I think you need Requires(Post) or Requires(Pre) to make sure a package is installed when pre or post scripts are run. OK, will do. Thanks for the help. -- Jerry James

Re: Ubuntu Xorg Guru calls for help. Was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:01 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-X.org-Guru-Calls-for-Desktop-Help Let's see if I can summarize this article: - we're getting too many bugs - more testing will find more bugs - therefore we should test more so we have fewer

Re: Ubuntu Xorg Guru calls for help. Was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/11/2009 18:01, Linuxguy123 a écrit : http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-X.org-Guru-Calls-for-Desktop-Help Instead of whining, he should ask his employer to hire more X hackers, one guy is obviously not *enough*. This has nothing to do with our issue and Fedora at all.

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 11/30/2009 06:12 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:55 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/30/2009 01:05 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:05 +, Steven Whitehouse wrote: configuration, control, and monitoring. Yes, it's harder for experts to create a world-dominating robot with duct tape and bailing wire because most of the parts are already assembled, but

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
For the Qt-demo rendering issue on intel, it is fixed by Qt 4.6. Good to hear! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-11-30 Thread Gene Czarcinski
Although I have read all of the messages on this thread as of the date/time of this message, I am replying to this first message with all of my comments. My background: I am currently retired but a few years ago I was still being paid the big bucks for working on computer security and security

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/30/2009 11:49 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 11:26 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/28/2009 10:23 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim

Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-11-30 Thread Eric Christensen
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 15:09, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote: Although I have read all of the messages on this thread as of the date/time of this message, I am replying to this first message with all of my comments. My background: I am currently retired but a few years ago I was still

Re: Ubuntu Xorg Guru calls for help. Was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 30/11/2009 20:28, Jeff Spaleta a écrit : What is your definition of hacker? Is he contributing to X.org upstream development or is he just pulling patchsets to be applied to distribution specific packages? Likely the second option, I'd expect from the company claiming leadership on the

Re: memset bugs.

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/30/2009 01:10 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/30/2009 11:39 AM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 10:39 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/27/2009 02:25 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/27/2009 06:03 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 03:28:19AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: A

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:22PM -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 01:05 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:05 +, Steven Whitehouse wrote: configuration, control, and monitoring. Yes, it's harder for experts to create a world-dominating robot with duct tape and

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/30/2009 03:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:22PM -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 01:05 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:05 +, Steven Whitehouse wrote: configuration, control, and monitoring. Yes, it's harder for experts to create a

Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-11-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Gene Czarcinski (g...@czarc.net) said: Keep it simple (KISS) for the initial attempt. It will grow more complicated all by itself as time passes. BTW, the security policy should assume that a grub password is in use so that a user cannot do something like disabling selinux by editing the

Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-11-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 03:28:55PM -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 03:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:54:22PM -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: On 11/30/2009 01:05 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:05 +, Steven Whitehouse wrote: configuration, control,

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves. Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today: I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in no way_ a gender-neutral compliment. since

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/01/2009 02:59 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves. Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today: I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 23:49 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm an emacs user who's nearly completely useless in vi. But, really... it just doesn't matter if emacs isn't installed by default. If you want it, you know how to get it.

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:23 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: That doesn't scale. There's lots of useful pages in the Wiki. We can't link to all of them from the front page. I was thinking of this more as a special Graphics debug push :) Special cases are never a good idea. and add some

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 20:03 +, Ikem Krueger wrote: The Bugzappers also always happy to have more people volunteer to help with X.org bug triage; it's a lot of work to keep on top of. I'd like to help. But the wikipage for testing Xorg issues* is a way to much to read, given the case

Re: Ubuntu Xorg Guru calls for help. Was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:28 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of whining, he should ask his employer to hire more X hackers, one guy is obviously not *enough*. This has nothing to do with our issue and Fedora at

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-30 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 23:49 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm an emacs user who's nearly completely useless in vi. But, really... it just doesn't matter if emacs

Re: [RFA] Your [PACKAGE_NAME] did not pass QA

2009-11-30 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: When i18n asked what was the exact need for bitmap-fonts no one answered. Legibility? I don't know about font systems, is Terminuis a core font? It is bitmapped, but I don't know if that automatically makes it a core font. -- Matthew Please do not quote my e-mail

[Heads up] goffice = 0.7.16 in rawhide

2009-11-30 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I put updated goffice to 0.7.16 in rawhide. It will affect three packages namely gnumeric, gnu-cash and gnu-chemistry-utils. I am going to update gnumeric to the lastest soon, and i am sure gnu-cash and gnu-chemistry-utils is ready to handle

[Bug 542645] perl-IO-Compress-Base use name space Validator::

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542645 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 542645] perl-IO-Compress-Base use name space Validator::

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542645 --- Comment #1 from Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com 2009-11-30 10:28:14 EDT --- IO-Compress-2.023 merge two

[Bug 542645] perl-IO-Compress-Base use name space Validator::

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542645 --- Comment #2 from Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com 2009-11-30 11:25:26 EDT --- I changed namespace in our module from

[Bug 542645] perl-IO-Compress-Base use name space Validator::

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542645 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-11-30 13:17:02 EDT --- perl-5.10.0-86.fc12 has

[Bug 533734] Can we have perl-XML-LibXSLT for EPEL - EL5

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533734 Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) kwiz...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 533773] Build perl-Test-File-Contents for EL-5

2009-11-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533773 --- Comment #2 from Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) kwiz...@gmail.com 2009-11-30 17:18:50 EDT --- ping ? Does this message was