F10 themes: Round 1 closed, time for feedback and Round 2

2008-07-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Since the first round for F10 themes just ended [1], I wrote to my (infamous) blog an article listing all the proposals, including thumbnails and descriptions and asked for feedback (noting that the preferred way is this mailing list). Also posted about it on FedoraForum [3]. In not

Aologies for lack of input

2008-07-22 Thread Frank Murphy
as subject says, having a hard time with the boxes since dumping XP. learning is hard, (to me). and this doesn't help: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442250 Hopefully can read up on some stuff over rest of summer. Frank ___

How init mock in Koji?

2008-07-22 Thread Linul
Hi.. I have already set my koji server and every component is work OK. But not have any document mention howto init the buildroot?(or use mock environment) is any body can tell me?? tks.. -- = 林毓能 Linul RedHat

GenericError Repo directory missing

2008-07-22 Thread Naveen Gavini
Hello all, We have installed the Koji build system and are able to import RPMS. We are having issues building from SRPMS as it's prompting us that it is unable to find the file once it is uploaded. The other issue is we have seen about 500 tasks fail for newRepo (noarch) with the message:

Re: GenericError Repo directory missing

2008-07-22 Thread Naveen Gavini
Mike Bonnet wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 16:02 -0400, Naveen Gavini wrote: Hello all, We have installed the Koji build system and are able to import RPMS. We are having issues building from SRPMS as it's prompting us that it is unable to find the file once it is uploaded. The other issue

Re: pungi repo priorities

2008-07-22 Thread Sergio Monteiro Basto
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 11:13 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 04:23 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: Hi, how I set pungi repo priorities ? New pungi on fedora 9, give me an error about repo.priorities is a NoneType I thought I pushed an update for that. Check

Re: How init mock in Koji?

2008-07-22 Thread Naveen Gavini
Mike McLean wrote: Linul wrote: I have already set my koji server and every component is work OK. But not have any document mention howto init the buildroot?(or use mock environment) We are having a similar issue with problems on how to init the buildroot. We generated a

Re: GenericError Repo directory missing

2008-07-22 Thread Mike McLean
Naveen Gavini wrote: Does the /mnt/koji/repos directory exist? Is it owned by the same user httpd runs as? Also, have you tried to change topdir to something other than /mnt/koji? There are known problem with this, it needs to be fixed. We were able to fix this. The problem seemed to be

[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455981] Missing locl romanian magic

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts - New directory

2008-07-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Author: kevin Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/home/fedora/kevin/CVSROOT/admin/tmpcvsO15424/rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts Log Message: Directory /cvs/extras/rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts added to the repository

rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts/devel .cvsignore, NONE, 1.1 Makefile, NONE, 1.1 sources, NONE, 1.1

2008-07-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Author: kevin Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts/devel In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/home/fedora/kevin/CVSROOT/admin/tmpcvsO15424/rpms/gfs-garaldus-fonts/devel Added Files: .cvsignore Makefile sources Log Message: Setup of module gfs-garaldus-fonts --- NEW FILE

[Bug 456084] Review Request: gfs-garaldus-fonts - GFS Garaldus majuscule Greek font

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: gfs-garaldus-fonts - GFS Garaldus majuscule Greek font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456084 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 456345] Review Request: sportrop-fonts - A multiline decorative font

2008-07-22 Thread bugzilla
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Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Stupid gmail doesn't reply to all recipients by default, so see below. -- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar] They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-22 Thread Michal Nowak
On 14:30 Tue 22 Jul , Vasile Gaburici wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar] They say a picture is worth a thousand words. [http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/linux-fonts.png] I am sorry for

Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 22 juillet 2008 15:06, Michal Nowak a écrit : On 14:30 Tue 22 Jul , Vasile Gaburici wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar] They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 22 juillet 2008 15:50, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : Depends how international you want it! Adobe Pro fonts have many glyphs, especially the newer fonts. Comparing the number of glyphs: And the point is, if you can buy the latest version of those fonts, you don't need the workarounds for

Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Since we are debating the state of Fedora fonts, I'd also like to add that Fedora should ship as many OpenType fonts as possible. Why? Because it (finally!) includes a decent bundle of TeX (texlive), which contains XeTeX -- a version of TeX that can use advanced OpenType features directly. XeTeX

Re: Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 22 juillet 2008 16:16, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : Since we are debating the state of Fedora fonts, I'd also like to add that Fedora should ship as many OpenType fonts as possible. Bear in mind that OpenType can mean TTF fonts with OpenType features nowadays. Other than that, I fully

Re: Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Regarding OpenOffice.org and OpenType support, here is a recent thread at the UX (User Experience) mailing list on features to include in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.1, http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=1890 A few people mentioned OpenType support,

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I've got some expert comments on the fonts. There are some issues with the conversion... Details here: http://www.typophile.com/node/47578 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the person that did the work used his employers' (very) non-free

packager for liberation sans derivative needed (was: Re: Call for OpenType fonts!)

2008-07-22 Thread Gustavo Ferreira
On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mar 22 juillet 2008 16:16, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : Since we are debating the state of Fedora fonts, I'd also like to add that Fedora should ship as many OpenType fonts as possible. (...) Other than that, I fully agree with you, but

Re: Call for OpenType fonts! [Was: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]]

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Most people using OOo probably don't have clue what features OpenType provides, mostly because they've only seen Arial and Times New Roman. So I don't expect widespread requests from the userbase... Btw, is there a way to vote for feature requests, or do we have to spam them on the forums? On

Re: packager for liberation sans derivative needed (was: Re: Call for OpenType fonts!)

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I'll gladly do some testing. As for the packaging, given that it's a derivative of Liberation, perhaps someone from Redhat will step up and include them in the official package... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gustavo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have worked on a derivative version of

Re: packager for liberation sans derivative needed (was: Re: Call for OpenType fonts!)

2008-07-22 Thread Gustavo Ferreira
(sent off-list) On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Vasile Gaburici wrote: I'll gladly do some testing. As for the packaging, given that it's a derivative of Liberation, perhaps someone from Redhat will step up and include them in the official package... On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Gustavo

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008 à 19:40 +0300, Vasile Gaburici a écrit : I've got some expert comments on the fonts. There are some issues with the conversion... Details here: http://www.typophile.com/node/47578 Well if you want to do conversions I suggest you talk with Andrey Panov which has been

Re: packager for liberation sans derivative needed (was: Re: Call for OpenType fonts!)

2008-07-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 22 juillet 2008 à 15:22 -0300, Gustavo Ferreira a écrit : On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Vasile Gaburici wrote: I'll gladly do some testing. As for the packaging, given that it's a derivative of Liberation, perhaps someone from Redhat will step up and include them in the official

Analysis of combining diacritics support

2008-07-22 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Here's something that will make Nicolas proud. Following the discussion from [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455981] I've looked at the level of support in Fedora of combining diacritics for Romanian. The summary: - Charis Doulos SIL work perfectly - Linux Libertine works too, but

[Fwd: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] /bin/sleep $(($RANDOM/20)); /usr/bin/fasClient -i]

2008-07-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
I've updated fasClient with what we have in fas's git repository on fas[12], app[123456], publictest10, publictest9, fedorapeople.org,and releng2. We shouldn't get more DeprecationWarnings from those hosts. We'll have a new FAS package in the next few days that will incorporate these

Re: Database outage puppet updates

2008-07-22 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-07-22 04:01:58 AM, Ricky Zhou wrote: I plan to push all these changes in one shot tomorrow if the db migration works out, so I'd appreciate it if everybody could avoid pushing puppet changes in these areas until this has happened in order to prevent ugly/complex merges. Thanks,

Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
A commit to Fedora non-pkg CVS triggered the following: [...] Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:28:08 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mschwendt Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Mon, 21 Jul 2008

Re: Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details

2008-07-22 Thread Mike McGrath
We had some mail issues today wrt cvs mail. If you get this again please let us know. I made some changes today that fixed nirik's and someone elses issue but may have introduced another. I was never able to recreate the error myself. -Mike On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote:

bash $TMOUT

2008-07-22 Thread Mike McGrath
So, I'd like to set a $TMOUT for all of our bash sessions. I see a lot of shells just needlessly open. This is going to piss people off though, I haven't even done it yet and its pissing me off :) Are there any very vocal oppositions to this? Any alternatives? I'd like to at a minimum

Re: bash $TMOUT

2008-07-22 Thread Nigel Jones
Mike McGrath wrote: So, I'd like to set a $TMOUT for all of our bash sessions. I see a lot of shells just needlessly open. This is going to piss people off though, I haven't even done it yet and its pissing me off :) Are there any very vocal oppositions to this? Any alternatives? I'd

Re: bash $TMOUT

2008-07-22 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Nigel Jones wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: So, I'd like to set a $TMOUT for all of our bash sessions. I see a lot of shells just needlessly open. This is going to piss people off though, I haven't even done it yet and its pissing me off :) Are there any very

Re: bash $TMOUT

2008-07-22 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Nigel Jones wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: So, I'd like to set a $TMOUT for all of our bash sessions. I see a lot of shells just needlessly open. This is going to piss people off though, I haven't even done it yet and

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software for Linux = Linux software. By this reasoning, reading Linus' first announcement of Linux, you'd conclude that Linux is a GNU kernel. That's how the English language works.

Re: VPN Server Setup

2008-07-22 Thread Sean Bruno
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:49 +0530, Yogesh M Chaudhari wrote: Can any guys help me Try looking up openvpn ... yum search vpn will show you interesting things as well. Sean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandre Oliva wrote: For me it means using/reusing/improving freely-available, well-tested code in all possible situations. And where did you get this idea that this is what Free (and|or) Open Source Software are about? That's what

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: but if you've agreed to the GPL terms covering that copy, you have agreed not to Again, think dual licensing. The phrase: nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. Yes, so if you want to distribute a copy

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 03:02 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: So, anyone who insists in naming Linux all of the GNU operating system used with the kernel Linux is contradicting the primary developer of GNU and the primary developer of Linus. And going along with how various distributions describe

revisor problem

2008-07-22 Thread kalab
i am currently using Fedora 8 and i wanted to make a custom live cd with my desired 3rd party Bioinfo softwares with fedora 9 i have downloaded the Fedora-9-dvd.iso 2.currently running fedora 8 3.installed revisor 4.configured the kickstart file and revisor config file 5.made custom repo with

Re: eeedora 2.0 ?

2008-07-22 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, are there anybody interested in working on Eeedora? As I can see by eeedora page (custom Fedora version for Asus eee) [1] it looks like it is

Re: *News Flash* Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: CNN reports that leading climatologists and Al Gore have confirms that all the hot air on this thread is accelerating global warming. Al Gore, Al Gore, that rings a bell. Isn't he that guy who invented that internetwork whachacallit? Heeza

Re: Logwatch?

2008-07-22 Thread Niels Weber
2008/7/21 Knute Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for the response. Some others have suggested that is where the problem lies as well. I'm not sure why denyhosts sometimes puts a name rather than an IP. I guess I'll have to see if there is a denyhosts list and ask there. There is a config

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 14:54 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 21:47 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: the GPL is the one that most often does not permit freedom compared to any other set of combinations Just because it doesn't permit the freedom that *you* want to exploit... All

Re: Wireless gone on Compaq Presario

2008-07-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:32:40 max bianco wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Marques wrote: max escribió: No kernel update. Anyway, tried with the last 3 kernels and still had the same problem. Do you have that system as dual boot?

Re: F8 - Error in xine installation failure

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:50:07 -0700, Barry wrote: At the end of Xine installation got messages below; Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/libxine1.mo from install of xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc8 conflicts with file from package xine-lib-1.1.8-4.fc8 Error Summary

help for .vcr files needed

2008-07-22 Thread Amitakhya Phukan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! I have got some lectures downloaded from a University. They are all rar files. Upon extracting them, I got .VCR files. How to play them ? When I contacted them, they said extract the files using unrar (which I did), and then use Java

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Alan Cox
Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet... If you are using claws then use Create Filter Rule by From or Subject and move them into another folder (eg 'Statler and Waldorf') -- fedora-list mailing

Power management problems

2008-07-22 Thread Anne Wilson
I have to shut down my fedora computer when I'm not using it, as I have power management problems. Logwatch tells me WARNING: Kernel Errors Present powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI ...: 3 Time(s) and drives never spin down, or any other kind of management cuts in. The full

Re: Wireless gone on Compaq Presario

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Marques
max bianco escribió: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Marques wrote: max escribió: No kernel update. Anyway, tried with the last 3 kernels and still had the same problem. Do you have that system as dual boot? If so, does Windows see it? If not,

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:38 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet... If you are using claws then use Create Filter Rule by From or Subject and move them into another

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Alexandre Oliva wrote: This was that the term GNU operating system which you used _is_ ambiguous to me. This is an unfortunate effect of a very successful campaign of some fanatics that wanted to push the goals of software freedom promoted by the FSF to a back seat. If they hadn't renamed

Re: *News Flash* Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 10:35 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: CNN reports that leading climatologists and Al Gore have confirms that all the hot air on this thread is accelerating global warming. Al Gore, Al Gore, that rings a bell. Isn't he

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 05:36 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: does. No offence, but I'm surprised that someone who's been using Shells as far back as Cromix doesn't realize this, as it's absolutely fundamental to understanding how the Shell works. no offense taken. simply a

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ric Moore wrote: - Linus is the son of the journalists Anna and Nils Torvalds, He was attracted to computers from an early age and attended the University of Helsinki from 1988 to study Computer Science. In 1991, he purchased

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Craig White wrote: I routinely set up cups to offer print queues for users whether Linux (automatic discovery, automatic setup), Macintosh (via cups or via netatalk) and Windows (via Samba, providing APW) and cups has been a remarkable print server/service with very few problems. Just a

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-22 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 14:19 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Craig White wrote: I routinely set up cups to offer print queues for users whether Linux (automatic discovery, automatic setup), Macintosh (via cups or via netatalk) and Windows (via Samba, providing APW) and cups has been a

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Björn Persson
Ric Moore wrote: So, he took Minux, an operating system, (presumably with it's GNU packages), inserted his kernel (which took only 10 months to have it working enough to distribute), named and released a package named Linux, under the GPL. He referred to it as an operating system. Now, either

Now ON TOPIC, libGL.so, libMesaGL.so on missing list of F8 repo's

2008-07-22 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings All; So what do we do when we want to install a program that expects to find those libraries and will not build without them? -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author)

Re: KVM Hypervisor

2008-07-22 Thread Alex Katebi
Yes I did check couple of D630 from friends and the BIOS POST has the Virtualization option. Thanks to everyone for helping out. I want to install Fedora on it as the Host OS, then run Fedora Windows as guests OS. Has anyone done this? Thanks, -Alex On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Christopher

Re: KVM Hypervisor

2008-07-22 Thread Alex Katebi
Thanks for the DELL BIOS POST information! -Alex On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Snook wrote: Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 08:15 -0400, Alex Katebi wrote: Hi All, I can not find laptop or desktop hardware that supports

Newbie: USB Pen Drive on Fedora Core 3

2008-07-22 Thread Bravismore Mumanyi
Hi All, May any folk out there help me with a guide on how I manually mount USB pen drives on Fedora Core 3. I have tried plugging in a pen drive which shows an activity light but no icon is automatically displayed. I have failed to figure out where it is mounted. /Biggie -- fedora-list

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-22 Thread g
accepted. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Anders Karlsson
* Andrew Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080722 13:12]: On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:38 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet... If you are using claws then use Create

Re: AMD64 and Scanners

2008-07-22 Thread Oliver Sampson
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 18:34 +, g wrote: Oliver Sampson wrote: snip of? possible in '/dev'. also, have you made yourself a member of scanner groups? No. i had to do this to get a scanner to work. Interesting. On my i386 system, I installed the drivers and it worked like a charm.

Re: What is the point of the NM keyring?

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Marques
Ken Murray escribió: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because of gnome-keyring's designer's stupid arrogance not to allow passwordless keyrings (unlike KWallet which empowers the user). Instead, we're stuck with some PAM hackery which allows reusing

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Björn Persson
Timothy Murphy wrote: I think it is misleading to say that Torvalds was dissatisfied with Minix. The fact is, Tanenbaum (bizarrely) declined to port Minix to the 386 on the absurd grounds that there were millions of 286's around the world, and people would continue using them indefinitely.

Re: Newbie: USB Pen Drive on Fedora Core 3

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Haney
Bravismore Mumanyi wrote: Hi All, May any folk out there help me with a guide on how I manually mount USB pen drives on Fedora Core 3. I have tried plugging in a pen drive which shows an activity light but no icon is automatically displayed. I have failed to figure out where it is mounted.

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Les Mikesell
Timothy Murphy wrote: I've always thought Tanenbaum is the forgotten man of Linux history, rather than Stallman. (I'm not attacking Stallman, just saying he is not forgotten ...) With respect to operating systems you might look both Tanenbaum and Stallman in the same way. They both were

Re: 2D CAD with background image map (qcad? brl-cad?)

2008-07-22 Thread Thompson Freeman
On 07/22/2008 04:07:35 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I need to draw routes of fiber optics cables ontop of a city map and I would like to do this in some open source CAD application. It would be great if the cad app would be something like Map3D so that it has geospacial coordinates, but that

Re: F8 - Error in xine installation failure

2008-07-22 Thread Barry
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:50:07 -0700, Barry wrote: At the end of Xine installation got messages below; Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/libxine1.mo from install of xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc8 conflicts with file from package

Fedora 9 - Signal over range.

2008-07-22 Thread Adrian Lawler
Hi; I've just downloaded and installed Fedora 9 in Text Mode, I cannot do so in Graphics Mode. If I select that option my monitor first displays; DVI No Input Signal then follws that with Signal Over Range. Obviously at this point I'm staring at a blank screen. The OS is working in Text Mode but

RE: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-22 Thread Antonio Olivares
To cat the free fish living in the sea, Les will need more than a free boat. He will also need Nets, snip He does need much more? Yes GNU provides these things, but he does not want to give credit to them :( His company is Les Fishery Inc., Not Les/GNU Fishery Inc.

Re: F8 - Error in xine installation failure

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:16:08 -0700, Barry wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:50:07 -0700, Barry wrote: At the end of Xine installation got messages below; Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/libxine1.mo from install of

Re: FC8: Using Sqlite3 in OpenOffice, with or without ODBC

2008-07-22 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:24 AM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: yum -C info *odbc* |grep -i lite shows no output, so you'll have to build from source. as I mentioned at the beginning, I have no possibility to build from source on this computer right now, but thanks for the great summary, I'll

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Antonio Olivares
Both Linux and GNU are important much like man is to woman, one without the other would cease to exist, That was from the beginning, Adam by himself (compared to GNU) and Eve (Linus torvalds and his kernel) making a comparision to the bible. Nowadays, anything is possible but does not make

Re: Fedora 9 - Signal over range.

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:15 +0100, Adrian Lawler wrote: I could use some information as to how to drop the resolution and refresh rate while in Text Mode. I think that should solve the problem. I am fairly new to Linux but I am getting reasonably confident with it. Try system-config-display.

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 22, 2008, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux is a trademark, please use it properly in combination with other marks. ... and an GPL'd registered project under the name of Linux, Good. Now go check what was registered under that name. ] Oh, my God, a kernel! I thought it was

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 22, 2008, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've little sympathy for users being harassed into calling Linux something else, Me too. Likewise GNU. It works both ways. Linux = kernel (says Linus) GNU = operating system (says RMS) -- Alexandre Oliva

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-22 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 22, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the gnu utilities in linux distros could easily be replaced with counterparts from the *bsd's, opensolaris, or any commercial unix version. And the Linux kernel could be swapped with a bsd, opensolaris, or commercial unix in a distro

Re: FC8: Using Sqlite3 in OpenOffice, with or without ODBC

2008-07-22 Thread Todd Denniston
M. Fioretti wrote, On 07/22/2008 12:28 PM: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:24 AM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: yum -C info *odbc* |grep -i lite shows no output, so you'll have to build from source. as I mentioned at the beginning, I have no possibility to build from source on this computer right

Re: Network Icon

2008-07-22 Thread Oliver Sampson
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:15 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 21:26 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 12:22 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: I wanted to change my network card from DHCP to a static IP on my Fedora 9 box. So I did. The network icon (in Gnome) then shows

Re: Intel Soundmax integrated adapter No Sound

2008-07-22 Thread TNWestTex
stan wrote: Download and run the script at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [1] Then post the link back here to enable others to see the output. If you just want to run it for personal use run it as ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload Stan The output is here ALSA information is located at

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