Re: New Anaconda for F9?

2008-10-04 Thread مؤيد السعدي
yes because the stock anaconda is broken and won't even build this is bad for re-spinners like me it's broken because of a change in audit-libs-devel-1.7.5-1.fc9.i386 a structure was renamed to be audit_reply talking about my self, I patched my anaconda myself by looking into the git repo On

Re: New Anaconda for F9?

2008-10-04 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 wrote: Was this intentional? Very cool! Completely intentional. Lots of minor bugfixes, anaconda builds again on up-to-date systems, and some additional significant Fedora 9 secondary architecture fixes were applied as well. Kind regards, Jeroen

Re: New Anaconda for F9?

2008-10-04 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
Isamar Maia wrote: Where can I find a stage2.img image with this bugfixes already applied ? Not on any official Fedora Project location, the install tree is not going to be rebuilt by the Fedora Project as far as existing releases is concerned. However, the Fedora Unity Project is about

[Bug 458169] implement downloadable font support on Linux

2008-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458169 Bill Gianopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 455647] [Indic] Firefox displays garbage Indic characters on parts of some English webpages

2008-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455647 Samuel Sidler (:sps) [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added

download.fp.o https?

2008-10-04 Thread Matt Domsch
not sure if we care, but download.fp.o is using the plain fp.o https cert, not the wildcard cert. We only use download.fp.o to do redirects to (most likely non-https) mirrors, but it might still be good to be sure there's no MITM between user and our redirector. If so, we should be using the

MirrorManager upgrades

2008-10-04 Thread Matt Domsch
- Forwarded message from Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:37:12 -0500 From: Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MirrorManager upgrades References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: download.fp.o https?

2008-10-04 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-10-04 04:40:31 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: not sure if we care, but download.fp.o is using the plain fp.o https cert, not the wildcard cert. We only use download.fp.o to do redirects to (most likely non-https) mirrors, but it might still be good to be sure there's no MITM between user and

refresh_mirrorlist_cache traceback

2008-10-04 Thread Ricky Zhou
Hey, we've been seeing refresh_mirrorlist_cache errors like this recently: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/mirrormanager/server/refresh_mirrorlist_cache, line 41, in ? sys.exit(main()) File /usr/share/mirrormanager/server/refresh_mirrorlist_cache, line 36, in main

Re: refresh_mirrorlist_cache traceback

2008-10-04 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 09:17:38PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: It looks like it's coming from line 113 of /usr/share/mirrormanager/server/mirrormanager/mirrorlist.py: if hcurl is None or len(hcurl) == 0: continue Should this be changed to just: if not hcurl: continue ? I think hcurl

IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig does report what looks like valid ipv6 addresses for both eth0 and lo. eth0

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello, You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )... Edward. Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; In /etc/sysconfig/ifcfg-eth0 I have the line as in the subject, but I note that bringing up eth0, at a fixed ipv4 address in the 192.168 block, there is about a 5 second pause doing it, and ifconfig

Re: [Fwd: FC9 Network Config]

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello, Do you means I need to disable the NM service ? If so, stop it by tool of ntsysv or remove the related rpm packages ? Thanks ! Edward. Timothy Murphy wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# chkconfig --list | grep -i net NetworkManager 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )... Edward. Agreed Edward, but when it doesn't show the ipv6 addresses at all, the interface is brought up in milliseconds, as opposed to the 5 second lag it has now. That is the lag I would

pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Thanks ! Edward. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Livna but it is obsoleted by Alpine which is under a free and open source (Apache) license. # yum install alpine Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello to you, I can't to find out the alpine package from Livna Site... So, Would you mind to show me the d/l link ? Thanks ! Edward, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Livna but it is obsoleted by

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to you, I can't to find out the alpine package from Livna Site... So, Would you mind to show me the d/l link ? Alpine is in Fedora. Not livna. # yum install alpine Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello, I just find out a link by google.com : http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/updates/9/i386/alpine-2.00-1.fc9.i386.html I think it is suitable for fc9 system, right ? Thanks ! Edward. Rahul Sundaram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to you, I can't to find out the alpine

Re: gdm does not execute PreSession PostSession scripts

2008-10-04 Thread Trapper
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I've noticed that the customized gdm PreSession/Default and PostSession/Default scripts that I've been using for years in Fedora 1-8 no longer run on a system that recently upgraded to Fedora 9. There have been many changes in Fedora's gdm

Re: Nvidia Drivers for Fedora 9

2008-10-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
The advantage to using livna is that they are included in RPM packages. If you get them directly from Nvidia, when you get an updated kernel you would have to reinstall the drivers. IMHO: It is usually better to use RPM packages rather than tarballs because of the database. But, there are

Re: kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 - non graphical boot?

2008-10-04 Thread Alfredo Ferrari
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, Mike wrote: Is it just me or does kernel 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 not give a graphical boot? I am also without graphical login on two different machines... there is a bugzilla entry I believe already opened (no solution yet) Alfredo --

Chroot for FC9 - firefox opens a window instead of new session

2008-10-04 Thread B Wooster
On a x86_64 Linux machine, I made another x86_64 chroot environment for FC9, and installed a 32-bit firefox in the chroot. The main host has as 64-bit firefox, old one - 1.5.x something (BonEcho). When I enter the chroot, and log in as root, I can start the 32-bit firefox. This opens up a new

chm viewer

2008-10-04 Thread David Hláčik
Hello , i am looking for .chm viewer. Which package from Fedora 9 should i use? Thanks for help, D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: chm viewer

2008-10-04 Thread Nicolae Ghimbovschi
gnochm or kchmviewer. The first one is based on the GTK the second one on Qt. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 15:38, David Hláčik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , i am looking for .chm viewer. Which package from Fedora 9 should i use? Thanks for help, D. -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: chm viewer

2008-10-04 Thread Paul Smith
2008/10/4 Nicolae Ghimbovschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gnochm or kchmviewer. The first one is based on the GTK the second one on Qt. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 15:38, David Hláčik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , i am looking for .chm viewer. Which package from Fedora 9 should i use? Okular on F9.

More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread jeff
I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. My disks (same model drive for both sda and sdb) /boot - /dev/md1 (/dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1) / - /dev/md6 (/dev/sda6 /dev/sdb6) swap - /dev/md3

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Locke
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 02:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, You are using IPv4 ( If IPv6 disabled )... Edward. Agreed Edward, but when it doesn't show the ipv6 addresses at all, the interface is brought up in milliseconds, as

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Ian Pilcher
Gene Heskett wrote: How does one go about disabling that? It's not easy. The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6 address to any interface that's brought up. If you don't want to use IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to prevent the appropriate module from being

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Livna but it is obsoleted by Alpine which is under a free and open source (Apache) license. The University of Washington has dropped development of

Re: Nvidia Drivers for Fedora 9

2008-10-04 Thread Alex Makhlin
Jerry Feldman wrote: The advantage to using livna is that they are included in RPM packages. If you get them directly from Nvidia, when you get an updated kernel you would have to reinstall the drivers. IMHO: It is usually better to use RPM packages rather than tarballs because of the

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 07:38:27 -0700 (MST), Robert Holtzman wrote: I have been searching for a replacement with no luck. If anyone knows of a text based MUA, not Mutt, please let me know. cone perhaps? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello, After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify ifcfg-eth* file for it... Edward. Ian Pilcher wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: How does one go about disabling that? It's not easy. The Linux

LVM big problem

2008-10-04 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, I've setup a LVM volume on several disks. It appears that one at least of the disks has crashed. Is there a way to recover data on the good disks or all is lost ? Thanks for any help BR -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Ian Pilcher wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: How does one go about disabling that? It's not easy. The Linux kernel automatically assigns a link-local IPv6 address to any interface that's brought up. If you don't want to use IPv6 at all, you can use /etc/modprobe.conf to

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Dear All, FYI, http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/updates/9/i386/alpine-2.00-1.fc9.i386.html Is it still ok ? Thanks ! Edward. Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 07:38:27 -0700 (MST), Robert Holtzman wrote: I have been searching for a replacement with no luck. If anyone knows

Re: Nvidia Drivers for Fedora 9

2008-10-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/04/2008 10:58 AM, Alex Makhlin wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: The advantage to using livna is that they are included in RPM packages. If you get them directly from Nvidia, when you get an updated kernel you would have to reinstall the drivers. IMHO: It is usually better to use RPM packages

Re: [OT] CentOS 3rd party repositories?

2008-10-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Vandaman wrote: I didn't read the whole thread, but did anyone mention the epel.repo : Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 5? This is a sort of official redhat repository with extra packages for CentOS. Who is lazier? The OP who can't be bothered to find appropriate support channels or

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify ifcfg-eth* file for it... What the Says he incredulously. Howinhell am I supposed to be able

Re: LVM big problem

2008-10-04 Thread Remi Collet
Luc MAIGNAN a écrit : Hi, I've setup a LVM volume on several disks. It appears that one at least of the disks has crashed. Is there a way to recover data on the good disks or all is lost ? try in rescue mode : lvm vgreduce --test --removemissing if it's seem ok

Re: Fedora-10 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
James Kosin wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: I tried installing F-10 from the hard disk on my Thinkpad T43 but came up against two major impediments: 1. The cursor is not visible. Occasionally something lights up, to show where the cursor is (eg when specifying one's location), but on other

Re: chm viewer

2008-10-04 Thread Armin Moradi
2008/10/4 Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/4 Nicolae Ghimbovschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: gnochm or kchmviewer. The first one is based on the GTK the second one on Qt. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 15:38, David Hláčik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , i am looking for .chm viewer. Which

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread edwardspl
Hello, After FC8, there is a system tool of udev, it will help you to handle the adapter config for the system... Edward. Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by system ), the user

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 10:04:46 -0400, Any suggestions would really be appreciated. Did you change anything just before this started happening? I had a very similar problem after trying to yum upgrade from FC6 to F9. Running mkinitrd under the older kernel did not generate the correct set of

Re: LVM big problem

2008-10-04 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Luc MAIGNAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've setup a LVM volume on several disks. It appears that one at least of the disks has crashed. Is there a way to recover data on the good disks or all is lost ? From your backups? (Sorry! Been there, felt your pain.) A few years ago I once foolishly

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Locke
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 23:26 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After FC8 System, there is no /etc/modprobe.conf ( default hand by system ), the user may use the GUI ( NOT text mode ) tool or modify ifcfg-eth* file for it... Edward. Edward, You may want to actually try the advice

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. [...] it appears as the mdadm is not starting properly or assembling the array properly. Can anybody confirm if the init

Re: fdisk: plus sign in the blocks number

2008-10-04 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aldo Foot wrote: snip Ah! I see your point It makes sense. Here's some more digging I did just to understand this. snip I guess it would be more accurate to go by cylinders. But I'd have to convert the units to megabytes in order to get the

Where should one be reporting hardware issues ? Kerneltrap ? Bugzilla ? Here ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
I got a new laptop this week and I've found a few hardware issues. Some are minor, others are major. 1) Synaptics touchpad on/off button doesn't work. 2) eSATA port doesn't seem to initialize properly, external drive doesn't work. 3) Multi format optical drive doesn't handle CDs properly. 4)

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to be

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread jeff
I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. My disks (same model drive for both sda and sdb) /boot - /dev/md1 (/dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1) / - /dev/md6 (/dev/sda6 /dev/sdb6) swap -

Re: Qirky, random local network access.

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 22:47 -0700, Tod Merley wrote: Hi linuxguy123! Hi. When it is messing up, from a terminal run #/sbin/ifconfig, and then #/sbin/iwconfig. Pay attention to the IP settings in the ifconfig output, and the link quality and specifics of the iwconfig message. OK, I will,

Re: KDE 4.1.2 released... next new feature release will be Jan 09... F8 implications.

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 22:41 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes: konsole really suffered regressions [snip] no more. No more restoring tabs from logoff. This is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465451

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread ANOOP
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to be

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Livna but it is obsoleted by Alpine which is under a free and open source (Apache) license. The University of Washington has

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:29:50 +0800, edwardspl wrote: http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/updates/9/i386/ alpine-2.00-1.fc9.i386.html Two browsers hav failed to find any such site. More importantly, *why* do you keep ignoring the best advice, over and over? All you have to do

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Ross
Les Mikesell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. [...] it appears as the mdadm is not starting properly or assembling the array properly. Can

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
puilt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. I have a few questions below... My disks (same model drive for both sda and sdb) /boot - /dev/md1 (/dev/sda1

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Vandaman
Linuxguy123 wrote: I can't help but wonder if I am missing something on how its supposed to be used. Is there a guide or website that has a little tutorial somewhere ? Get yourself a cup of coffee and point your browser to http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/ Look at the guides, and feel free

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:36:02 ANOOP wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't help but wonder

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Ross
Bill Davidsen wrote: puilt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've again run into a problem with RAID-1 on my system. I can mount all the raid volumes using the linux rescue boot option from the install CD. I have a few questions below... verified that the UUID's listed in the

Re: Nvidia Drivers for Fedora 9

2008-10-04 Thread John Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerry Feldman wrote: | The advantage to using livna is that they are included in RPM packages. | If you get them directly from Nvidia, when you get an updated kernel you | would have to reinstall the drivers. | IMHO: It is usually better to use RPM

Re: Where should one be reporting hardware issues ? Kerneltrap ? Bugzilla ? Here ?

2008-10-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:09:10 -0400 Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a new laptop this week and I've found a few hardware issues. Some are minor, others are major. 1) Synaptics touchpad on/off button doesn't work. 2) eSATA port doesn't seem to initialize properly, external drive

yum local repo question

2008-10-04 Thread can comert
Hi, I'm using a fedora9 edition on my desktop i have a limited internet connection. I want to get the links of updates from my fedora installed desktop and download updates from a different computer (not fedora installed) and then i will copy *.rpm packeges to /var/cache/yum/... (optinal to repo)

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Ross
Les Mikesell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I extracted the initrd file and looked at the file init. in this file I can see the following (relevant) information.. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo loading raid1 module modprobe -q raid1 Don't you need a modprobe md before

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:53:47PM +0100, Colin J Thomson wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:36:02 ANOOP wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the

Re: More RAID-1 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Jeffrey Ross wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I extracted the initrd file and looked at the file init. in this file I can see the following (relevant) information.. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo loading raid1 module modprobe -q raid1 Don't you need

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Put icons for launching xterm and konqueror on the upper or lower panel. Simply drag and drop the menu entry from the Kickoff or classic menu to the panel. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: I do not know how to view youtube or flash on 64-bit F9. How is it done? It can be done with nspluginwrapper. Or you can try gnash or swfdec, which are actually Free Software. But many of the videos you're looking for (KDE 4 demos/tutorials)

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does one go about disabling that? Why, pray tell? IPv6 is just about the only way one can reach one's internal machines from the outside world when has a cheap ISP that hands out a single IPv4 address. The 6to4 tunnel makes it trivial to set up IPv6.

Wireless, Broadcom

2008-10-04 Thread Vincent Onelli
12. Re: Wireless, Broadcom (Timothy Murphy) -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:24:08 +0100 From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wireless, Broadcom To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:26:35PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Put icons for launching xterm and konqueror on the upper or lower panel. Simply drag and drop the menu entry from the Kickoff or classic menu to the panel. Neither xterm nor

Re: pine for FC9

2008-10-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Bill Davidsen wrote: Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Do you know where can we d/l the pine rpm package for FC9 ? Livna but it is obsoleted by Alpine which is under a free and open source (Apache)

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its great. I can't help

Re: 64 Bit Linux shows 4GB... was Using all of 4GB RAM...

2008-10-04 Thread Alan Cox
You probably understand this better than I do, but I have never been able to find enough performance difference in PAE vs. default kernels to worry me, at PAE costs you a few percent on tlb loads. The big hit with 1GB RAM is the cost of the remapping of user pages and the TLB flushes it

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:53:32PM +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 09:14:49PM +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself.

Re: Fedora-10 problems

2008-10-04 Thread gary artim
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Kosin wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: I tried installing F-10 from the hard disk on my Thinkpad T43 but came up against two major impediments: 1. The cursor is not visible. Occasionally something lights up, to show

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Mail Lists
On 10/04/2008 04:53 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: Open Kickoff (right-click the f button on the panel, make sure to select kickoff meny style), browse to xterm (or konqueror), right-click on it and select add to panel. I've also heard that

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 21:14 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: It is obvious that KDE4 is meant to be used with a different mindset (no icons on the desktop, desktop is not a folder, everything you can see is a window or a widget, etc...), but the question is actually *why* is it different and

Re: Fedora-10 problems

2008-10-04 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, gary artim wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Kosin wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: I tried installing F-10 from the hard disk on my Thinkpad T43 but came up against two major impediments: 1. The cursor is not

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 21:14 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: It is obvious that KDE4 is meant to be used with a different mindset (no icons on the desktop, desktop is not a folder, everything you can see is a window or a

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:38 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: I don't get KDE4. The big thing I missed from KDE3 was a desktop with real folders on it that I could drag and drop to my heart's content. KDE has folder view that one can use to display a folder and one can put the icon for a folder on

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic vvmarko at panet.co.yu writes: How about auto-hiding the panel? It takes precious space on my 12 notebook screen. This has been implemented in the upcoming KDE 4.2. We are considering backporting this to the KDE 4.1 packages in Fedora 10 and in an upcoming Fedora 9 update.

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Linuxguy123 linuxguy123 at gmail.com writes: Its like we added a layer of complexity (ie using folder view and having to use an icon on the desktop to represent the folder) Huh? The whole point of the folder view plasmoid is to represent the contents of the folder directly on the desktop.

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. Konqueror is definitely in the menu! As for xterm, if it isn't listed in the menu, that's a bug in the xterm package, please file a bug in Bugzilla, all GUI programs are

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. Konqueror is definitely in the menu! As for xterm, if it isn't listed in the menu, that's a bug in the xterm

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread kwhiskerz
Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of people including myself. On the other hand, some people think

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of energy and of no real value and just resort to using Dolphin and in fact, moved all of the files and folders off my desktop and just keep a couple of 'launchers' there. It is a

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 20:04 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu list as far as I can tell. Konqueror is definitely in the menu! As for

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:10:40PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 11:45:36PM +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Dave Feustel dfeustel at mindspring.com writes: Neither xterm nor konqueror is in the menu

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 03:44:50PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 04 October 2008 08:53:01 pm Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 03:44:50PM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There

Re: IPV6INIT=no, but does anyway on local network

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does one go about disabling that? Why, pray tell? Because here, everything is on a 192.168.x.x address, fixed using host files for dns resolution. Anything that doesn't resolve locally gets

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:02:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 18:10 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of energy and of no real value and just resort to using

Re: fdisk: plus sign in the blocks number

2008-10-04 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: I guess it would be more accurate to go by cylinders. But I'd have to convert the units to megabytes in order to get the partition size I want... ok. so just what it is that you are trying to do? get even

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:30 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 07:02:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 18:10 -0400, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:05 -0700, Craig White wrote: I personally feel that the 'folder view' widget is a waste of

Re: gdm does not execute PreSession PostSession scripts

2008-10-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Trapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I've noticed that the customized gdm PreSession/Default and PostSession/Default scripts that I've been using for years in Fedora 1-8 no longer run on a system that recently

Re: fdisk: plus sign in the blocks number

2008-10-04 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aldo Foot wrote: snip Yes the idea is to have a clean partition layout. In the initial email I sent I asked about the relevance of having the +/- in the partitions when it comes to resizing and manipulating volumes and raid disks. in setting up

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