Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-20 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 23:09:48 Ric Moore wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 20:02 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: you can get a root password on Kubuntu as well if you hate sudo :) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html $ sudo passwd root One of my

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-19 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. It has. I've

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-18 Thread Ric Moore
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Mon, 8/18/08, Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 7:50 PM On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Its now 2

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-18 Thread Ric Moore
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. It has. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Mike
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: Don't worry, 4.1 is coming soon. But flaming us on the mailing lists won't make it come any sooner! (Personally, it even makes me want to intentionally delay it to make you suffer, I'm that kind of person. :-p But luckily for you, I want to

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Antonio Olivares
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things move forward. I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around. Of course anyone who really cannot wait

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Antonio Olivares
Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things move forward. I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around. I better clarify the comfort level part.

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Mike wrote: Of course anyone who really cannot wait for KDE4.1+ can always opt to pay for MS products if they think that is a better option! Or Apple, where there is at least some indication of an effort to make sure all the parts work together before shipping. And it will run pretty much

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 05:22 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:19:22 Mike wrote: I was aware of the time needed before KDE4 became fully functional - and in the meantime I am using Gnome but testing KDE in F9  in a matter of weeks the KDE4 system will be very functional, and will be further developed and fine tuned. :-)

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:25:48 Antonio Olivares wrote: I second your comment :)  It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around. I doubt if it is the same, but I'm pretty sure someone has

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:31:25 Antonio Olivares wrote: Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things move forward. I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 11:53 AM On Saturday 16 August 2008 18:25

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread max
Antonio Olivares wrote: Keep it up guys - I am one who does appreciate how things move forward. I second your comment :) It is becoming better, not yet at a comfort level, still missing the Digital Clock from KDE 3.5.X, but it is working better and it is coming around. Of course anyone who

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-16 Thread Tim
Max: Cracked versions can include software you wouldn't want running on your network. And never mind just plain broken software... Antonio Olivares: What software is that? Trojans, viruses, and whatnot? You don't seriously expect us to believe that you weren't aware of that possibility?

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-15 Thread linuxguy
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse in judgment. How so? I think they underestimated

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-15 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
linuxguy wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: If the price of 10% adoption rate is exponential increase in the number of bitch-and-moan-while-doing-nothing-to-help like the OP, I'll take 1% market share any time, any date. (But that's me...) do nothing to help

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-15 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:22 AM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:30 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-15 Thread Les Mikesell
Arthur Pemberton wrote: If the price of 10% adoption rate is exponential increase in the number of bitch-and-moan-while-doing-nothing-to-help like the OP, I'll take 1% market share any time, any date. (But that's me...) do nothing to help people are the majority of computer users. I am

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Arthur Pemberton pemboa at gmail.com writes: How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch about not having what they want when they want it. Can any core member of the KDE SIG confirm/deny regret? No regrets here, we knew we had to upgrade to KDE 4 sooner or later, so

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur Pemberton pemboa at gmail.com writes: How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch about not having what they want when they want it. Can any core member of the KDE SIG confirm/deny regret?

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 14 August 2008 00:18, Francis Earl wrote: Still upset about being stuck with KDE4.0, LG It's in Fedora updates-testing. and has been for at least 2 weeks. You have the choice of using that or waiting until Rex can get it into the main repo including some bugfixes that have

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 14 August 2008 00:41, Antonio Olivares wrote: I am actually surprised that it has not made its way over here, but it should soon :) It is, of course, Akademy week, and many people involved with KDE have been somewhat short of time recently. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Bill Crawford
2008/8/13 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The fact that you refer to common Linux users like myself as freeloaders who bitch demonstrates a big part of this and other problems within the Linux community. You are behaving like one. Keep it up. Linux adoption will stay at 1% for another 10

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-14 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 16:38 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse in judgment. How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch about not having what they

Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread linuxguy
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding edge, etc, but this is by far the worst release Fedora and

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Francis Earl
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:43 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. It did ship at the end of July. You seem to be confusing the KDE release date with the Fedora release date. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. It has. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Sucks for you. Say whatever

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Antonio Olivares
Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding edge, etc, but this is by far the worst

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 22:43:58 linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. snip You can get it from updates-testing, then you

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread linuxguy
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse in judgment. How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch about not having what they want when they want it. The fact that you refer to

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 03:43:58PM -0600, linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:38 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:37 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: The people that allowed KDE4.0 to ship in F9 showed a huge lapse in judgment. How so? I think they underestimated how many freeloaders would bitch about not having

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Armin
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 18:43:58 linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Say whatever you want about Fedora being bleeding

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Rex Dieter
linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Actually, we pushed the big red button push to stable a few days ago at akademy, and

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 19:42 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: linuxguy wrote: Its now 2 weeks past the end of July, when we were told KDE 4.1 would ship. I've been stuck with this crappy, half working KDE 4.0 interface for 6 weeks. You could say I'm a bit miffed. Actually, we pushed the big

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Craig White wrote: Anyway...I assume you got one of the free N810's and I am jealous (the kind of thing I would love to have but am too cheap to purchase myself) I wish, sadly no, not so fortunate as having one of those in my hands. :) -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Where the h%^^%$#! is KDE 4.1 ? Part II

2008-08-13 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 20:04 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Craig White wrote: Anyway...I assume you got one of the free N810's and I am jealous (the kind of thing I would love to have but am too cheap to purchase myself) I wish, sadly no, not so fortunate as having one of those in my hands. :)