Re: pungi recent bug

2009-07-31 Thread Sergio Monteiro Basto
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 10:57 +0100, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: That's the log I can get for wormux. So you exclude wormux but not wormux-data? yes, to just exclude wormux, I think just appears wormux in duplicates and also is enough to solve the duplicated. Hi, updating the

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 10 - 2009-07-30

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:33:38 -0700, Kyle wrote: I don't currently intend to push Pylons 0.9.7 to F-10, unless someone makes an argument otherwise. The upgrade from 0.9.6.2 is not a clean one and would possibly break existing user applications.

Re: Installing glibc 2.10.90-10 hosed my system last night

2009-07-31 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 30 juillet 2009 à 16:34 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 21:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:12:25PM +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: but X / GNOME is still severely broken. GNOME has been broken in rawhide for a

Re: F11 Bind Updates

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:08:49 +0100, Mat wrote: Updating my F11 box today and found this in the console: Cleanup: 32:bind-libs-9.6.1-3.fc11.x86_64 27/28 /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache Non-fatal POSTUN scriptlet

Re: new to list, first post

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 00:43, Doug Epling wrote: --snip-- It is apparent from reading all these great howdy-dos to my post, that there is a great difference of opinion on exactly what Fedora is. #1 That's it in a nutshell, Fedora is different things to different people. As I said, it will be

mcelog, Is it dead\dying?

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Found: Merge review 2007 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226132 Bug: 2009 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507026 -- Regards, Frank jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: new to list, first post

2009-07-31 Thread Felix Kaechele
Om 31.07.2009 01:27 Doug Epling wrote: Also: I _want_ to use Fedora as a desktop. And I also _want_ to use it as a server. At the Moment I see no problem in that. Why can't there be both in your opinion? Well, excuse me for my old fashioned notion that a server must run for days, weeks,

Re: F12 mass rebuild status

2009-07-31 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote: I've now generated the first of the mass rebuild status pages. http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/needed-f12-rebuilds.html http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/failed-f12-rebuilds.html I will try to keep these updated

Re: F12 mass rebuild status

2009-07-31 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 10:16 +0200, drago01 wrote: '/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/dbus-c++-0.5.0-0.9.20090203git13281b3.fc12.x86_64/usr/include/dbus-c++-1/dbus-c++/' /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Jan Chadima
- Conrad Meyer ceme...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thursday 30 July 2009 08:49:12 am Jan Chadima wrote: Hi I've just solve the problem with the openssh-blacklist package. Now the packae is only the 16 kbytes. It contains the downloader. The data are downloaded from the server on

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 09:37, Jan Chadima wrote: - Conrad Meyerceme...@u.washington.edu wrote: --snip-- Maybe I do not understand your question. Now the srpm and noarch.rpm also 20kB. The build is normal koji build. User (or admin) run the program and then program synchronize the local

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Jan Chadima
- Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/07/09 09:37, Jan Chadima wrote: - Conrad Meyerceme...@u.washington.edu wrote: --snip-- Maybe I do not understand your question. Now the srpm and noarch.rpm also 20kB. The build is normal koji build. User (or admin) run the

Re: F12 mass rebuild status

2009-07-31 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Caolán McNamaracaol...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 10:16 +0200, drago01 wrote: '/builddir/build/BUILDROOT/dbus-c++-0.5.0-0.9.20090203git13281b3.fc12.x86_64/usr/include/dbus-c++-1/dbus-c++/' /usr/bin/install: will not overwrite just-created

Re: Installing glibc 2.10.90-10 hosed my system last night

2009-07-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:00:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 30.07.09 21:25, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:12:25PM +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: but X / GNOME is still severely broken. GNOME has been broken in

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-31 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/28 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: snip I'd like to ask everyone to test this new volume logic. If you don't raise your voice now that some output port is not properly detected or audio is too faint then later on you won't have any right to complain. I think you do what you

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:50:22AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/31/2009 10:42 AM, James Antill wrote: *sigh*, if you want to do some benchmarking of different package managers available in Fedora (zypp makes the 4th, if apt is working again) then feel free to actually do _a

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/31/2009 06:29 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: James has written about these before: http://illiterat.livejournal.com/5043.html http://illiterat.livejournal.com/5218.html Yes, I have read through them before but doesn't quite answer the question on why comparing two commands that do the

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Florian Festi
On 07/27/2009 01:01 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: I'm currently trying to make it less SUSE specific like adding support for package coloring Feel free to join #rpm.org @ freenode or the rpm-maint list if you have questions about file/package coloring. There are quite some tricky problems

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/7/30 Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: So I recently updated F11 and was told I needed to log off for the changes to take effect. When I click the yield type sign and select log off, I get the dialog for shutdown, restart,

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:42:44PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: If others are doing it wrong, then there *is* a clear and direct way to demonstrate performance. Yum developers can do the performance benchmarking between different dep resolves (yum, apt-rpm, smart and now solv) and publish it

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jussi Lehtola on 07/31/2009 10:06 AM wrote: so there is a 50x speed difference in favor of solv. F13 feature? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Florian Festi
On 07/31/2009 05:06 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: so there is a 50x speed difference in favor of solv. More interesting than the difference in time would be the difference (if any) in the result... Florian -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 18:06 +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 17:26 +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: To test things I've written a small application called solv that works like a very tiny package manager. It's available via:

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:42:44PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: If others are doing it wrong, then there *is* a clear and direct way to demonstrate performance. Yum developers can do the performance benchmarking between different dep resolves

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday 31 July 2009 04:42:12 am Frank Murphy wrote: I think what is meant, it that the app is useless, without either web\media input. Which the user should not have to do to take full advantage of it. I think this is a bit like virus definitions. 800Mb is excessive to ship in a package. I

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: If I'm not mistaken yum is developed to work only with Fedora repositories which are conflict free, while the other depsolvers try to handle more general repositories with conflicts. This

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JK == Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: JK Hrm, so I wonder about this. Does exim rely on the group ownership JK at all for anything? Would it make sense to have a general JK 'service' or 'nobody' group that these things could be tossed in if JK the group isn't to be used, to avoid

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/7/31 Nathanael Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: But by 'log out' it really means reboot doesn't it? Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart the process by logging out and logging back in, you don't have to reboot. PackageKit splits these up into about 5 categories,

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT So useradd must have changed its behavior quite recently. It could be shadow-4.1.4.1-sysacc.patch, I guess, but that was built in rawhide on the 16th of this month and I've done plenty of builds since then. - J -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Richard Hughes on 07/31/2009 10:43 AM wrote: Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart [snip] Fedora 10 and 11 support only 2,3 Unfortunately there's a bug somewhere then. I've been meaning to file another bug report on this. The PackageKit applet tooltip will

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 10:41 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: I don't think it's bad for exim to groupadd 93 first, but honestly I don't know what happens to existing installations that may have a different GID set up and I don't want to break anything. I guess such systems would be running

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:12:23AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 17:41 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: Right, I meant conflicts between latest versions of packages in all repositories. We have that too, for the packages that explicitly mark themselves as conflicting.

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Richard Hugheshughsi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/31 Nathanael Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: But by 'log out' it really means reboot doesn't it? Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart the process by logging out and logging back in, you

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:42 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: I think what is meant, it that the app is useless, without either web\media input. Which the user should not have to do to take full advantage of it. We ship rather a lot of applications which are fairly useless without an internet

Re: Rawhide mock builds broken

2009-07-31 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Jason L Tibbitts III wrote, at 08/01/2009 12:46 AM +9:00: JLT == Jason L Tibbitts ti...@math.uh.edu writes: JLT So useradd must have changed its behavior quite recently. It could be shadow-4.1.4.1-sysacc.patch, I guess, but that was built in rawhide on the 16th of this month and I've done

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 18:24 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: Ok, I thought we have a policy that forbids it. So there is actually a good reason why it should be supported by yum. We kind of do. But existence of policy isn't a reason for absence of support. We can make policy until the sun

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:12:23AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 17:41 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: Right, I meant conflicts between latest versions of packages in all repositories. We have that too, for the packages that

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11 (and F10)

2009-07-31 Thread Doug Warner
Looks like this is on F10 as well [2] -Doug [2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1570320 On 07/31/2009 01:28 PM, Doug Warner wrote: I'm trying to build libconcord [1] and am seeing the following problems with the swig package in the buildroot on F11: DEBUG util.py:256:

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11

2009-07-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Doug Warner wrote: I'm trying to build libconcord [1] and am seeing the following problems with the swig package in the buildroot on F11: DEBUG util.py:256: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from build has depsolving problems DEBUG util.py:256:-- Missing Dependency:

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 13:28 -0400, Doug Warner wrote: I'm trying to build libconcord [1] and am seeing the following problems with the swig package in the buildroot on F11: DEBUG util.py:256: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.x86_64 from build has depsolving problems DEBUG util.py:256:-- Missing

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:12:10AM -0400, James Antill wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 21:42 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 07/30/2009 08:49 AM, Michael Schroeder wrote: Version 0.14.4 should have all fixes. OK, my reported bugs are fixed. It would have been more useful to end the

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11

2009-07-31 Thread Doug Warner
On 07/31/2009 01:38 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Perl dep generator gone wild on this package. There is probably some comment in a perl file that says something like Use the argv it and the dep checker thinks it's the perl syntax for use module Yeah, I saw that. I was wondering if I should file

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:42:08PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: A cursory glance at the output shows similar solutions (the differing reporting formats make it quite the back and forth to analyze). To be fair, I have a few yum plugins loaded, so it may be doing more work. solv's kernel

Re: mcelog, Is it dead\dying?

2009-07-31 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 08:52 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Bug: 2009 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507026 This is a side effect of me having two bugzilla accounts and needing to periodically sync them. Sorry I missed it, I'm on the list now. Also, I will once again try moving my

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:41:15AM +0200, yersinia wrote: Ok. But these tests, or other, are something you could do done this alone already , I am sure. I would not want to repeat myself, but IF YOU WOULD REALLY have a larger user base larger ypu have to publish your work as a independent

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:26:31PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: Please release this as a separate project to help cross-distro development. Libsatsolver is already a separate project. It also has some suport for debian (it can parse the Packages files and knows how debian dependencies work).

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:36:14PM +0200, Florian Festi wrote: Not a big surprise as solv does not have coloring (== multilib) support. Actually it has some multilib support, but it's pretty much untested as I don't know exactly how multilib is implemented in Fedora. (SUSE does it very

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 04:23:27PM +0200, Florian Festi wrote: On 07/27/2009 01:01 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=Fedora:11q=libsatsolver-demo Hmm, where's the source? You can get the source rpm by searching for libsatsolver instead of

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Adam Miller
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: snip We ship rather a lot of applications which are fairly useless without an internet connection. If the data is downloaded from the internet when you run _the installed program_, I don't see any problem here. snip

Re: openssh-blacklist - careless waste of space.

2009-07-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/07/09 17:37, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:42 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: I think what is meant, it that the app is useless, without either web\media input. Which the user should not have to do to take full advantage of it. We ship rather a lot of applications

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 13:35 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I think swig has a bug in its packaging. specifically perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) perl(argv) perl(example) perl(it) perl(the) I think those last 4 are an error. at least I hope so. They are. They come from the file

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 07/31/2009 01:12 AM, James Antill wrote: *sigh*, if you want to do some benchmarking of different package managers available in Fedora (zypp makes the 4th, if apt is working again) then feel free to actually do _a bunch of work_ comparing apples to apples. You'll almost certainly be

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:19:19PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: We have a policy that forbids non-explicit file conflicts, yes. I thought it applied to regular conflicts, now I see in the document there are some exceptions allowed. If you have two pkgs and you know foo owns a file that bar also

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: That might be a nice createrepo feature to add such conflicts. That would only help you if you only have a single repository - which we NEVER do b/c of fedora + updates + updates-testing. Yes, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean

Re: Koji build problems with swig package on F11

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:16 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: The spec has: cat \EOF %{name}-req #!/bin/sh %{__perl_requires} `perl -p -e 's|\S +%{_docdir}/%{name}-doc-%{version}\S +||'` EOF %define __perl_requires %{_builddir}/%{name}-%{version}/%{name}-req chmod +x %{__perl_requires}

FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Jon Stanley
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.txt Log:

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:40:26PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: That might be a nice createrepo feature to add such conflicts. That would only help you if you only have a single repository - which we NEVER do b/c of fedora + updates + updates-testing. It could take a list of repos that the

Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
== The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == Summary of broken packages (by src.rpm name): beagle clipsmm gauche-gl gauche-gtk

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:40:26PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: That might be a nice createrepo feature to add such conflicts. That would only help you if you only have a single repository - which we NEVER do b/c of fedora + updates +

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/7/31 Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org: I just want to say this is great work, and was sorely needed.  Do you know if there's anyone interested in working on installing updates before reboot/relogin? No, but it needs to be done. It's the sort of thing that PackageKit can do easily.

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread drago01
[..] 17:45:48 Kevin_Kofler As for killing multilibs, a proposal for next week: restrict multilibs to wine, redhat-lsb and their dependencies. Rationale: way too much stuff which will never be needed multilib is multilib. The people who really need that stuff should just use the i?86 repo and

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 09:12:24PM +0200, drago01 wrote: [..] 17:45:48 Kevin_Kofler As for killing multilibs, a proposal for next week: restrict multilibs to wine, redhat-lsb and their dependencies. Rationale: way too much stuff which will never be needed multilib is multilib. The people who

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/01/2009 12:18 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.txt Log:

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:48:02 -0400, Jon wrote: Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-31/fedora-meeting.2009-07-31-16.59.log.html http://portaudio.com/trac/log/portaudio/trunk/src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c?rev=1412 The patch has also been merged by Audacity

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 00:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't think anybody is going to argue that extracting source from srpm or pulling tarball + patches from our package cvs is ideal. So I don't see why we should continue have a lame exception. Yeah, it's not idea. They should just

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 14:21 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 07/31/2009 01:12 AM, James Antill wrote: *sigh*, if you want to do some benchmarking of different package managers available in Fedora (zypp makes the 4th, if apt is working again) then feel free to actually do _a bunch of work_

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-07-31 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Friday 31 July 2009, Tim Waugh wrote: Beginning with the 8.70 release, Ghostscript will be licensed as GPLv3+. This might cause problems for a bunch of packages. $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ghostscript ghostscript- gtk --qf=%{NAME}: %{LICENSE} | grep -vP

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/01/2009 01:14 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 00:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't think anybody is going to argue that extracting source from srpm or pulling tarball + patches from our package cvs is ideal. So I don't see why we should continue have a lame

Adding concurrency/multithreading support to par2cmdline

2009-07-31 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Hi everybody, Recently I took ownership of the par2cmdline package. par2cmdline is a program for creating and using PAR2 files to detect damage in data files and repair them if necessary. The current version of par2cmdline in Fedora is 0.4. This is also the latest upstream version. There hasn't

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 20:30 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: Yes, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean the explicit conflicts between current versions of packages. I.e. the thing that makes the complexity exponential. For example: package A: depends on X package B: conflicts with

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 01:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: That's kind of side tracking though. Point is that SRPM as upstream source is simply a stupid thing. We would complain loudly or atleast whine about it if Novell or Mandriva or Debian did that. Wouldn't we? Why should we have an

Re: Adding concurrency/multithreading support to par2cmdline

2009-07-31 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Friday 31 July 2009 13:03:06 Erik van Pienbroek wrote: [snip] The current version of par2cmdline in Fedora is 0.4. This is also the latest upstream version. There hasn't been any upstream activity ever since the year 2004 [1]. Some time ago, par2cmdline was forked by somebody [2] and

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-07-31 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 22:47 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: This might cause problems for a bunch of packages. $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ghostscript ghostscript- gtk --qf=%{NAME}: %{LICENSE} | grep -vP '\bGPL(v3|\S*\+)' | sort Wouldn't it be packages using the

R-BSgenome.Celegans.UCSC.ce2 license change

2009-07-31 Thread Pierre-Yves
Dear list, The latest version R-BSgenome.Celegans.UCSC.ce2 is coming to the repositories. With it the license of the package changes from LGPLv2+ to Artistic 2.0. Best regards, Pierre -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/01/2009 01:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Source0: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/pkgs/anaconda/anaconda-11.5.0.59.tar.bz2/0b0b7b30f1ff03bad05bda3d052b73a8/anaconda-11.5.0.59.tar.bz2 is really no better. This would ridiculous. I don't think any project is going to do this. Even

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/01/2009 01:39 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 01:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: That's kind of side tracking though. Point is that SRPM as upstream source is simply a stupid thing. We would complain loudly or atleast whine about it if Novell or Mandriva or Debian did

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 19:55 +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:36:14PM +0200, Florian Festi wrote: Not a big surprise as solv does not have coloring (== multilib) support. Actually it has some multilib support, but it's pretty much untested as I don't know exactly

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:00:10AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/01/2009 01:31 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: Source0: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/pkgs/anaconda/anaconda-11.5.0.59.tar.bz2/0b0b7b30f1ff03bad05bda3d052b73a8/anaconda-11.5.0.59.tar.bz2 is really no better. This would

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:09:43PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 01:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: That's kind of side tracking though. Point is that SRPM as upstream source is simply a stupid thing. We would complain loudly or atleast whine about it if Novell or Mandriva

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-07-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 22:47 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Friday 31 July 2009, Tim Waugh wrote: Beginning with the 8.70 release, Ghostscript will be licensed as GPLv3+. This might cause problems for a bunch of packages. $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ghostscript

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:01 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 01:20:12AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/01/2009 01:14 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 00:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't think anybody is going to argue that extracting source from srpm or pulling

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/01/2009 02:17 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: This is part of the problem. Perhaps the developers don't want to be bothered with setting up a project hosting facility for something they to-date have been releasing in a manner they find sufficient. This is a bit of circular logic. They find it

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:47 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:00:10AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Even if they do want to go to this extend, we don't need to grant them special exceptions. We can recommend that the projects used a proper project hosting facility and leave it at that.

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/31/2009 01:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 01:09:43PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 01:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: That's kind of side tracking though. Point is that SRPM as upstream source is simply a stupid thing. We would complain loudly or

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 14:17 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 07/31/2009 01:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: We don't complain about no public source repo. See deltarpm. It's repo consists of the tarball we use already. It doesn't even have an easily findable project website. We're supposed

Re: F12 mass rebuild status

2009-07-31 Thread William Cohen
Jesse Keating wrote: I've now generated the first of the mass rebuild status pages. http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/needed-f12-rebuilds.html http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/failed-f12-rebuilds.html I will try to keep these updated multiple times a day. In the case of the needed

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 07/31/2009 09:50 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Richard Hughes on 07/31/2009 10:43 AM wrote: Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart [snip] Fedora 10 and 11 support only 2,3 Unfortunately there's a bug somewhere then. I've been meaning to file another bug

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/31/2009 05:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? Yes, please. CC me, too, or link me. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 07/31/2009 04:28 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 07/31/2009 05:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? Yes, please. CC me, too, or link me. And this is specifically PackageKit, and not some break out from it like an

Re: Package Kit messages...

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 07/31/2009 05:30 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: And this is specifically PackageKit, and not some break out from it like an applet or something?... Yes, this is PackageKit. PackageKit contains an applet that appears in your notification area on your panel when there are updates or

More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
I'm getting a pile of these: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by crontabs-1.10-31.fc12.noarch rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by logrotate-3.7.8-3.fc12.x86_64 rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by crontabs-1.10-31.fc12.noarch rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by logrotate-3.7.8-3.fc12.x86_64 rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by tar-2:1.22-6.fc12.x86_64

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread John5342
2009/7/31 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com: I'm getting a pile of these: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by crontabs-1.10-31.fc12.noarch rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by logrotate-3.7.8-3.fc12.x86_64

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org writes: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 I had the same on F11, building in a Rawhide mock. I was advised to update rpm to 4.7.1 that was in updates-testing, which fixed the

Re: Testing libsatsolver on Fedora

2009-07-31 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 07/31/2009 03:46 PM, James Antill wrote: We also don't make progress by posting yum is 50x slower than solv for update, and yet _predictably_ that is what this thread degenerated into within hours of your post. I seem to be reading a different thread. A few people were trying out the

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:06:38PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: It is a random upstream project but one developed within Fedora and Fedora can and should tell them not to do so. Why shouldn't we? Again they don't need or deserve special exceptions. Treat them like any other upstream project.

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:48:54PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org writes: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 I had the same on F11, building in a Rawhide mock. I was advised to update

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 12:44 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 00:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't think anybody is going to argue that extracting source from srpm or pulling tarball + patches from our package cvs is ideal. So I don't see why we should continue have

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-31

2009-07-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Bastien Nocerabnoc...@redhat.com wrote: That's what Moblin does, and you can ask Peter Robinson how much of a pain it is. If we want to ask upstreams to do tarball releases, I don't see why we should be making assertions like that. It's only a pain because

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Tom Lane
Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com writes: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 18:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: [ consults CVS... ] So XZ support in F-11's rpm is less than a week old, there is *no* support in F-10, and we're already requiring the capability in order to do useful development work? All I can

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