On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:27:26PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
Mike A. Harris wrote:
All proprietary drivers? ;o)
I can't help wondering...
What do you guys do when you want decent 3D performance?
I walk out of the front door, the resolution is excellent, the shadows are
superbly computed
on a 5 years old hardware with raid1 system and boot partition anaconda
crash with dmraid error while i don't use dmraid just mdraid:-( and since
preupgrade also crash with the same error there is no way to properly
upgrade from the latest release to the next release! not even with nodmraid
On Thu, 22 May 2008 13:27:09 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 22 May 2008 10:21:11 Renich Bon Ciric wrote:
Hello,
I'm interested in learning Networking basics and advanced concepts. If
anybody could recommend a great Networking book(s) it would be
awesome!...
So, as I came to discover, in place of helping multiple Linux OS's to
get installed, UUID was actually going against it. And this changed
fstab is working fine for me for more than two days.
Can anyone please explain this?
What are the current UUID values on your file systems. If they have
On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:24:00 -0700
Les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, everyone,
It appears that Mesa is supposed to replace OpenGL for F8
OpenGL is a protocol and API. Mesa is the implementation of it in Linux
(and always has been for the life of Fedora)
Alan
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Windows and even Mac clients that connect to that server seem to have no
problem, it's just that I can't seem to get another Linux box to do the
same.
FTP control stream is net-ascii. What you are doing is actually a protocol
violation if you are using the simple tell everyone (including
Do you know where i can find a website with a list of compatible sata raid
card
I will not make a discussion about it but i do not trust and like software
raid !
Almost all current raid is software or software with hardware
accelerators. The high end 3ware and areca cards are probably the
OK but i prefer the card option since it does not depend on the OS (in a
way)
Is there such a website ?
See
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
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Either I've completely misunderstood (as is of course quite
possible) -- or it's easy to imagine circumstances where you might care
intensely which connection you used.
Given people in many countries have ended up in court for using other
peoples wireless networks that is an
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:45:11 -0400
Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:23:49 +0930
Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How's your punch card tool faring, and which model teleprinter do you
use? ;-)
Actually, I do have a model 21a tty in the back room I keep thinking
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:13:14 -0700
Alan Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please excuse my inane question. I'm fairly experienced with
administering RH/Fedora installations, but I've just never tried to do
this before.
I'm setting up a backup server which is to have substancially the same
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:14:08 -0400
Jorge Fábregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 04:40:25 pm Alan Cox wrote:
What does smart utils have to say about the drive last logged errors ?
Agh thanks Alan. I forgot about S.M.A.R.T..but shame on me: smartd
isn't
running
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:12:28 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an F7 system that has both a SATA drive and occasionally an IDE
drive connected to it. The problem is that when the IDE drive is
connected, the system will make IDE=/dev/sda and SATA=/dev/sdb, and
screw up my boot process.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:30:01 +0200
Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water
Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments.
Sorry what does this silly idea have to do with
Does anyone know of a Linux boot from CD which has
the UFS read/write compiled in? I just need to tweek
the password file so I can get into these boxes.
I would rather not have to build a custom kernel and
then build a bootable CD from it.
Linux doesn't really support UFS read/write. You
Question to the devs - could you think of any way that the kernel output
could be a bit more informing, or don´t you get enough information from
the hardware for such an issue. I also checked smart for unusual power
cycle counts but to no avail.
There isn't information on the causes - it
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:07:30 +0200
Daniel Kirsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hallo,
I have put an output of dmesg under
http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~kirsten/pics/dmesg-output
It seems to be DVD read error. Should I try to install from
another source?
The DVD passed the
When the system hangs, the mouse cursor will continue to move, but it
is very jumpy
and sluggish. But otherwise the system is completely unresponsive
(not just slow).
That sounds like it suddenly ran out of memory.
Try
echo 2 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory
echo 80
O I wonder if LUKS + swap might be the first suspect
Well, I looked a little closer and it may be my fault. The LVM
I have swap in was only 32 MB in size, not the 32 GB I had
intended! So my swap is way smaller than my physical memory.
Would that excessively small swap space size had
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:00:52 +0100
dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri June 27 2008 09:05:07 François Patte wrote:
While I installed fglrx module for ATI video card, I was unable to have
X display working correctly until I disabled selinux.
What's wrong?
Nothing, you fixed it
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:02:44 +0300
Octavian-Marius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, i'm using fedora core 7 and i deleted som files from hdd, partition is
ext3.
How do i recover them? It is vital to recover them, i don't make any write
on hdd.
Please gave me an advice!
If you need some more
Note that cdrecord doesn't come with Fedora, there is a link by that
name which leads to wodim. The usual drill is to change group on
wodim is the free software fork from cdrecord with other stuff added.
cdrecord to a new group, make the owner root, change perms to 4754,
and it should
The reason setuid is needed is to allow use of vendor commands, and the
command filter in the kernel doesn't allow some as non-root. Certain
people in the kernel community refuse to add these command, the author
Actually thats untrue. We've added commands where it is safe to do so and
we've
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord permission problems
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, July 7
I recently read a paper about the role base security now in the kernel.
Would your last statement be true under that scenario? That is, if a cd role
was
created as restricted as it could be? Would it be true if the role was
combined
with SELinux?
I'd still be able to patch the
Closed source kernel drivers would not be allowed to run under new kernels?
You'd need to ask a lawyer but a lot of us take the view that they are
not anyway.
Does this mean that a new nvidia driver would not work anymore :(
No. The statement is a position, not a decree from on high, and even
developers seem to suffer from, causing them to make fantastic
wholesale changes to driver interfaces for utterly trivial
cosmetic reasons which add no stability or functionality, but
We make wholesale changes to get the code right, and to fix design flaws.
One of the beauties of the open
What patches? Below you reject the idea of specifying processes I trust
to write individual devices, any patch to add commands to the allowed
commands table in a running system could hardly be safer, and the table
applies to all processes and CD devices, while I propose matching g+rw
on
Where does Fedora grab its partition tables ?
How to modify / correct partitions if fdisk is not enough for Fedora ?
Partition tables are stored at the start of the disk, LVM and RAID data
within the partitions. So if you zap the partitions it ought to be fine
(or if you tell the installer you
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:15:23 -0600
Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an fc8 and 9 machine that both only resume correctly from hibernating
~50% of the time.
They are on the same type hardware, would it be safe to assume its hardware
related or is hibernation
not very
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:17:39 -0600
Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please file a bug though - the only way we stomp all the ones we
can is to know what hardware is failing.
Alan,
How exactly do I provide the needed info for a situation such as this?
What would I provide when I
My opinion is that it's political in nature. GNU doesn't like Red
It is political for sure - GNU has a highly public agenda around free
software and what is and is not free.
Hat and, by extension, anything that Red Hat contributes to. OC, I have
absolutely no proof nor reason for
I would have to do a bit of hunting on the IRQ side to get that sorted,
including on my hardware so I will see what I can get. Thanks for the
suggestions so far~
Boot with the option nr_uarts=10 and see if that sorts it ?
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You could, however, get a license for BSD for a LOT less ($5k, I think),
and that's what a LOT of people did (including Sun, DEC, IBM, Data
General, Silicon Graphics and others too many to name).
BSD required an ATT license for V7.
Alan
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:04:49 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZFS was included in FreeBSD 7.0 because the BSD license is more free than the
GPL with that regard.
And if NetApp win against Sun they can sue FreeBSD now, for triple
damages which would be millions and the end
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZFS was included in FreeBSD 7.0 because the BSD
license is more free than the GPL with that regard.
And if NetApp win against Sun they can sue FreeBSD now, for
triple
damages which would be millions
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:33:17 +0200
Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
måndagen den 21 juli 2008 skrev Les Mikesell:
Björn Persson wrote:
You're still talking as if your opponents want to name entire
distributions GNU/Linux. I'm not so sure that there really is anyone
who wants to
yes there are. Linux is not an operating system. That is a fact. It is
common for people to refer to an OS as Linux but it is not factually
correct.
That is a matter of definition. It's as correct to them as it is wrong to
you.
Alan
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To
BTW, please also remind Telsa and also whoever's in charge of
linux(tm).org.uk that her home page and their front page don't abide
by http://www.linuxmark.org/attribution.php
Go read up on trademarks before making yourself look a complete and utter
muppet. Using a mark for its appropriate
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:47:03 -0300
Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 21, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
30 • Re post #23 (by Anonymous on 2008-07-21 20:19:06 GMT from Canada)
Gnu is but one portion of all
Nobody ever disputed that. It's like Linux.
The GPL meets both the FS and the OSS definition.
News to me. GPLv3 has clauses which are specifically aimed at certain
uses, and clauses which contain systematic biases in favour of people who
have certain long standing arrangements with Microsoft.
It's not IMHO an OSS licence. Free yes, OSS
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:06:35 -0300
Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 21, 2008, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By what measurement - remembering that much of GNU is actually BSD and
other projects with bits nailed on or assimilated into the project.
For the 3rd time
Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I
want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet...
If you are using claws then use
Create Filter Rule by From or Subject
and move them into another folder (eg 'Statler and Waldorf')
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elaborate so I can show that your attack is based on false premises.
Its not an attack. The GPLv3 is slanted against certain uses. I happen to
think that is a *good* thing so I'm hardly attacking you.
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Yes, there was some version of the Posix standard in that time frame.
It was just incomplete and described some mythical system that matched
no existing BSD or SysV flavor, so it was mostly ignored. Sort of like
Not really the case.
POSIX described a set of behaviours that were Unixlike
Except that when they were written, no system exactly matched what they
specified so you couldn't rely on them to work although they might have
been useful to point fingers at the non-complying implementations.
Very much untrue. If you stuck to what POSIX guaranteed then you got very
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:15:34 +0200
Huub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
My laptop running F9 doesn't boot properly anymore. After starting the
VolumeGroup, it starts giving:
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x25
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:13:44 +0200
Huub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DRDY - Data ready (not really important here)
ERR - Error occurred
UNC - Uncorrectable (eg bad block)
And C8 is a read command (read via DMA)
Alan
So the only solution to this is try to reformat and see
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:36:53 -0300
Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a war.
Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users.
Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of having to put
up with you.
Fortunately, my kids are savvy enough to check the sound first then
check the cables. All that was good. I wasn't expecting pulseaudio not
to be a service I could just restart on the fly. But I'll check it out
when I get home.
pulseaudio is run in user space and not as a
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a war.
Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users.
Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of
having to put
up with you.
Alan
Why me? What have I done
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:43:36 -0300
Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of having to put
up with you.
... says a member of the opposing army with a vested interest in
having
Please take this off list. And if you are not representing a Red Hat
viewpoint perhaps you would also care to post from a personal email
address.
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:59:09 -0400
the bx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
another thread on the same issue, I think.
pulseaudio does not start after kernel update
I updated kernel of F8 and lost sound. I know that most reports here
concern F9.
Seems similar but my audio comes back each time if
*And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that
Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to
Linux And GNU.
So why don't you set up blag-list somewhere ? I don't see ubuntu people
trolling this list, so why should you be doing so ?
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And my opinion of Red Hat is shit now, since they have a
representative like Alexandre fronting for them.
Red Hat doesn't. Alexandra just persists in abusing his redhat.com
address to advertise his own BLAG distribution in the wrong place.
He has been asked not to do that, and I imagine
I used to be ambivalent about the Free Software folks vs. the Open
Source folks. I'd like to congratulate Alexandre for fucking that
ambivalence. I now understand why the Free Software folks get
laughed at so hard, so often.
I'll make one other comment here. Most 'Free Software' people I
P.S. I try to stay out of these threads, but when someone brings up something
completely false about BLAG, I feel I have to correct it, especially when it's
someone like Alan Cox.
Thanks for the correction and I understand why you want to correct that
promptly.
Alan
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:53:37 +0100
Gary Stainburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks.
I've been asked to add a gif containing an advert to all outgoing emails.
Anyone got any ideas how to do this using Exim?
Its not doable. You can botch it but it will cause badness. Technically
it doesn't
1) just add a header and a URL to the same advert on our web site
http://www.ringways.co.uk/gotopless.php
Right or educating staff or adding scripts to put it in a footer. You can
sort out an organization header anyway if you are doing this with your
company name, number and
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:15:20 -0700
Skunk Worx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have several Kontron KVMs and if a system is booted into console
mode all is well...the contrast is as expected.
Desktop machines seem ok too. Contrast is fine on the VTs.
However if I boot into runlevel 5,
Les - if you want to restart the whole thing, please do it somewhere else.
Alan
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I dropped the server into Run Level 2 (from 3) and could see the five
directories under /mnt.
This is driving me crazy, thus I am missing something. Can someone identify
that something?
You or a program mounted something else over /mnt perhaps which was
unmounted when you went back to run
I typed setup and got a setup which included X.
I tried to configure, but the display driver models did not include
CHIMEI or CMV223D anywhere, so then I thought I would have to try at
random.
I did, and that went wrong. Now it does not find X11 at all.
Odd.. when you say does not find
For those of us old enough to remember, Rawhide also has it's own TV
show and theme song[1]:
Move ‘em on, head ‘em up, head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
http://lwn.net/Articles/257634/
Alan
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
Dean S. Messing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone (Alan?) give me some help on this.
What is the current status of this driver?
Tejun Heo got the driver working sort of based on the minimal data sheet
available. Initio promised info but then went
If you mean the brand then I wouldn't worry about it. They are all
pretty standard (and are also liable to fail after a few years).
They can also fail from silly things that happen by accident often
un-noticed. I zapped one a few months ago by the fine and wonderful
technique of dropping a
I really shudder to think of how a newbie would have tried to handle this
whole thing. It ain't pretty. Linux is *not* ready for the desktop, and
Im starting to wonder if it ever will be.
I suspect that until Nvidia leave the PC market and the ATI open source
drivers render the binary junk
question of functionality. The only thing breaching the functionality
issue is a dumbass ideology that needs to be decided in court.
You appear very confused. Courts enforce the law and in some parts of the
world interpret it (sometimes using prior interpretation sometimes not
depending upon
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:47:46 +0100
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Put F9 on sons PC.
Now how do I direct him to put ogg files to his bog-standard player.
And have them played.
Depends on the player.
Can he convert his current mp3 collection to ogg?
Not usefully. MP3 encoding has
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:22:16 +
Wayne Feick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd consider it a security bug to allow a user to see any bytes beyond
what was written to the file since:
1. Some ilesystems store multiple small files in the same block.
2. Some (most?) filesystems don't
precedent. You're the only one that's mentioned the word law.
The interpretaion of a licence via court precedent to quote you would
be the law (or more properly the legal system). Defined by politicians and
interpreted by the courts. Thus what dictates the content of Fedora and
what can
Is this just a sign of superb quality control in the samsung
disk factories turning out identical disks that last almost
the exact same amount of time in the same CPU case with the
same number of power cycles?
I gad a very similar thing happen with IBM disks and a raid 1 array. That
near miss
What could fail and induce such behavior? I have never seen anything similar
before. A computer usually does boot completely or does not boot at all. I've
never seen it boot halfway and then lock up.
Age, component failure , corrosion, static damage finally killing a
device, fan failure ...
list the best thing we can do? Or is it just the best thing we can do
right now given our current tools? Nothing's ever perfect but their
maybe room to try something new with regard to communication
mechanisms... if there are people willing to put the effort in to
build it.
Some
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:49:16 -0700
Don Killen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello list,
I am hoping to find someone whom may be able to help. I have been using
fedora or red hat for many years. I have bought five toshiba laptops in as
many years and have never had a proble loading it. I
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:08:50 +0100
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
F9 lappy
mobile broadband
3 Ireland
Huawei E630
connects fine with NM for internet,
can also connect gprs.
How can I receive sms,
my provider sends the bill by sms.
The Huawei I've fiddled with appear to use
If there is an issue severe enough which warrants stopping updates
(which indicates that rpm signing keys have been compromised) why should
we trust those fingerprints and servers?
Because you have no other basis of trust at all if you don't believe the
master keys ?
Or you set up a new
installed. I can get around this by pointing grub.conf to the UUID of
the disk to which it installed. However, I'm surprised that /dev/sda
seems to be a SATA disk during installation, and a PATA disk during boot.
Any thoughts as to why this might be? What decides the device detection
order?
I do not think that there is any way for anaconda, given the constraints
of libata and the BIOS, to determine if the first drive offered is PATA.
In theory you can map BIOS drives to PCI devices using EDD 3.0 tables and
then use word 93 of the identify data to map the devices to PATA v SATA.
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:36:41 -0400
Carlo Nyto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a system with four removable drives (in USB enclosures). I want
them to be mounted automatically in the same location every time. I
want this to happen at bootup. I also want this to happen if the
system is booted
How do the pulseaudio developers know what percentage of users
have problems with it?
Bugzilla count ?
As far as I know, Fedora has never tried to run any kind of poll
to find what problems users might have.
Nor with the kernel, cat, ed, cp ... so that is rather a silly point.
Also it
I don't think Alan Cox was saying you were silly to complain -
he was saying I was silly to expect a poll of Fedora users
about your complaint.
Indeed.
My suggestion probably was silly,
but I think Fedora _does_ need to adopt a more newbie-friendly approach,
if it wants to overthrow
What law or contract is broken when a company provides a link to another
company's site? Particularly, when that other company would want to
have that link.
2600 decision.
Or have I completely misunderstood and need to do some reading? Got
some sites?
Read up on 'contributory
_AND_ keep in mind that this has next-to-nothing to do with Nvidia or
other vendor-provided drivers, commercial software (even free - in the
Nvidia is a rather different case.
original sense - stuff like VMware, flash, realplayer), or how to
install Sun Java, yet they are all equally
O If it isn't shunned, why doesn't the adobe repository come
pre-configured in yum? Or at least as a '--release' rpm that could be
installed from an official site by feeding the URL to rpm?
Because Fedora is a free software distribution ? Because everyone making
a Fedora CD would then have
Those are useful if you are curious about _why_ fedora doesn't play your
multi-media files, run your java apps, or work with hardware that needs
vendor-provided drivers. If you are interested in actually fixing these
things you have to look elsewhere.
Oh dear me, paranoia pill dose is a
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:04:19 -0500
Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
Those are useful if you are curious about _why_ fedora doesn't play your
multi-media files, run your java apps, or work with hardware that needs
vendor-provided drivers. If you are interested
Depending on implementation specific quirks would certainly be a
bug.
Agreed, but working is a yes or no question.
Only if you have an absolute mathematical definition of the outputs for
each input state.
Have you ever filed a single bug report in
http://bugzilla.redhat.com
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:05:44 +0100
Neil Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A colleague here has had a fresh install of Fedora 9 for a while, and the
only remaining issue he has is that, after being logged in for a while, he
starts getting a an ever increasing slew of extra icons on his
Did you also try it as just plain HTTP? You get redirected to HTTPS.
Which for a self signed certificate is a bit of waste and proves nothing
really.
You might be talking to the web site, you might be talking to a fake site
proxying the web site. DNS is not secure so you don't know. If it is a
This is a misleading warning that the Firefox developers have decided to use.
I wouldn't call it misleading. Firefox accepts a set of signing agencies
that do at least the basic authority checking business expects -
paperwork, address, check against government records stuff. It doesn't by
Well they don't supply the same warning for http connections which have
exactly
the same issues.
Because they are not expected to be secure. Internet Exploder by the ways
does warn about forms sent via HTTP until everyone turns the warning off.
You may notice that while food has a best eaten
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:40:32 -0700
Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I have an odd application that has threads which hang around until all
child processes have finished executing.
I'd like to create a background process that isn't a child of said
thread, so that the thread
Before I try again and spend a fortune on CDs wanted to know if anybody has
successfully downloaded, burnt and installed from these images.
I've seen a small number of cases where the verify fails incorrectly. Can
you try installing off the CD set you burned and if it works please open
a bug in
O IANAL, however, this doesn't sound right. I can GPL my stuff,
and still have a EULA. I just have to be willing to supply source.
You can have an EULA providing it doesn't conflict with the GPL (and
local law). That makes the EULA for the code rather limited in what it
can contain 8)
Most
O Has any work taken place in the Linux community toward building a
trusted loader into Linux. If so, what is the status? If not, why
not?
You probably want to discuss this on the SELinux lists.
the update is tied into yum. I realize that an infrastructure would have
to exist for developers
I'd recommend that everyone disable those options if they value their
privacy.
Or just switch to a sane browser, such as Konqueror. It's really outrageous
that this kind of phoning home is tolerated in Free Software.
You should probably also disable yum updates as well theen as that also
Phoning home has a legitimate purpose, and has nothing to do with the
freedom or otherwise of the software. What is intolerable, as Arthur
says, is that it should be turned on by default, but even that isn't a
licensing issue but a privacy one.
There I agree entirely - it should present a
latest Fedora updates, I could no longer get to the desktop of my
personal user so in the end I had to go through the same process of
creating a new user before I could login. But I again had to go through
the tedious task of copying my personal files and personalising the
settings of the
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