Re: dpkg for building deb package from Fedora
AlannY wrote: > Hi there. I'm a developer. I can build RPM package of my software in > Fedora with rpmbuild. But now, I want to build deb package for > redistributing my software on Debian-based distros. > > I think, I need dpkg tool for building deb file. But where to find > it? I tryed to search all over the net, but articles just tells me > how to setup deb file in Fedora (I don't want to setup, just to > build). There isn't any official dpkg rpm in Fedora, yet. But it is currently being reviewed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/550582 . Perhaps that will help get you started. > I can create another Virtual Machine for Debian-based distros, but I > REALLY don't want to do it. On the few occasions I've wanted to create .deb packages or test things on Debian, I've found it worthwhile (and relatively painless) to do just that. Having a virtual machine made it easy to determine that the packages I created would work well on Debian. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill pgpQH4lvKItNL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
Chris Tyler wrote: > Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to > sell your proposal. IMO, the current description should be changed, but I'd prefer to not see a lengthy debate on the list about it. It just doesn't seem important enough nor terribly on-topic. With over 6,500 subscribers and a high number of messages per day, keeping the list focused on helping folks better use Fedora is more important that debating the minutiae of list settings, which has a very high potential for bikeshedding. :) I believe the original message should have been directed to the list owner address, as with all other such "administrivia" messages. But that's just my opinion. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980) pgpbGGZ7v65YV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing posts again ??
Andrew Jamison wrote: > Did you make sure the new Fedoral-list address was added to your > safe list? Recently the Mailing lists switched to Fedora > infrastructure and off of the Red Hat servers. That hasn't happened yet. I am sure that we'll announce it when it is completed (and probably again before it happens). > As far as I know you can not force it to resend emails on your own > the Admin might be able to do this however not sure. Unfortunately, mailman doesn't have this facility for admins either. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I visualize a time when we will be to robots what dogs are to humans, and I'm rooting for the machines. -- Claude Shannon pgp38xwCiCXAb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Live CHECKSUM failing
Sawrub wrote: > I don't see that al this a problem of torrent . As mentioned earlier > [though i'm still confused] its some issue in the signing of the > ISO. let me give a try creating the boot-able USB under windows. No, the problem is that your download is not complete. You stated earlier: > [saw...@mybox Fedora-12-x86_64-Live]$ sha256sum -c *-CHECKSUM > Fedora-12-x86_64-Live.iso: FAILED > sha256sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT match This shows that your download is not complete. You need to fix that and get an iso that passes the sha256sum check. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Would you let the aliens land, please? They might be here to pick me up. -- Bill Hicks pgpV4SfGAPfup.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum command
Jim wrote: > FC12/KDE > > How would I do a yum command to enablerepo=updates-testing to > update python. I did it this way but it won't work. > > yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing python You should give options (--enablerepo) _before the command (update). The yum man page and help output say: Usage: yum [options] COMMAND So you want: yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update python -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Man was made at the end of the week's work when God was tired. -- Mark Twain pgpE2QDZF6Xpt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration
Aaron Konstam wrote: > When is this migration going too occur? And where is it described? I > did not see it on the announce list. Check the announce list archives, it's there. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/thread.html -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation. -- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments pgpmutfsae1yz.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Live CHECKSUM failing
Rick Stevens wrote: > I know that and you know that, but there seems to be a lot of folk > who haven't seen the page, forgotten about it or are simply > confused. Indeed. I figured mentioning it once again might help spread the information. I realize it will remain a problem until F-13 when we add some explanatory text directly to the checksum file. :) > "We will continue to repeat this until you either surrender, concur > or go insane." --The Department of Redundancy Department Ha. If only that mail had got stuck in a resend loop. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Today I will gladly share my experience and advice, for there are no sweater words than "I told you so!" pgplLxM41RMC2.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Live CHECKSUM failing
Rick Stevens wrote: > This has been discussed before on the list. > > The header indicates that the checksum file _itself_ was signed with > an SHA1 checksum. The checksums _inside_ the checksum file are the > SHA256 checksums of the various .iso images. And this is why we added the large red warning about this to the web page on verification: https://fedoraproject.org/verify :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Finagle's Second Law: No matter what the anticipated result, there will always be someone eager to (a) misinterpret it, (b) fake it, or (c) believe it happened according to his own pet theory. -- Anonymous pgpwxKvmv45pp.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: grip authors email address?
Gene Heskett wrote: > Mike Oliphant, the author of grip, needs to update his address on > his web page at nostatic. > > Does anyone have a current address for Mike? I don't know of one, but grip is certainly not actively maintained by Mike any longer. It's still a fine app for ripping and encoding though. I'd suggest using the grip-users mailing list or filing bugs at bugzilla.redhat.com for minor issues. Just don't expect new features to be implemented anytime soon unless you file your bugs in unified diff format. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Hell is paved with good samaritans. -- William M. Holden pgpuGIyXl7DUy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration
Björn Persson wrote: > To prepare for the change I need to know the complete list-IDs of > the new lists. So, piecing this together, when the mapping maps > "fedora-announce-list" to "announce", this means that the list-ID > "fedora-announce-list.redhat.com" becomes > "announce.lists.fedoraproject.org", correct? Yes, I believe so. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ In some cultures what I do would be considered normal. pgpAcov820qFx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora mailing list migration
Frode Petersen wrote: > A minor confusion here... > I noted that the new ID's do not include any information on the > source of the lists. I.e. 'Fedora-music-list' becomes just 'music'. > Isn't this a bit too generic and a source for conflicts with lists > from other sources? Well, the list-id is made up of the list name and the list domain, so the new list-id for the music list will be music.lists.fedoraproject.org So it won't conflict with lists from other sources. Of course, if you use the list-id header and filter mail into folders using only the list name, then this will be more generic. :/ > As an alternative, will the sender header format be > [new-maillist-name-according-to-mappi...@fedoraproject.org > ? I believe the domain will be lists.fedoraproject.org, but otherwise, yes. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ How much does it cost to entice a dope-smoking UNIX system guru to Dayton? -- Brian Boyle, UNIX/WORLD's First Annual Salary Survey pgp2BUqjQLpiw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is this possible in Fedora?
Tim wrote: > It'll take quite some effort, not impossible, but very difficult, to > get a signed compromising package into the repos. One rogue package maintainer could do it easily. In fact, if one rogue upstream provided a tarball with a backdoor in it, it might slip into many distributions before it was noticed. There are source audits of the fedora packages, to check that the tarballs which have been uploaded to our buildsystem match what upstream has provided, but these checks aren't run on a daily basis. And they wouldn't catch the problem of a tarball that was compromised upstream. The scary possibility is that it's probably easier than many people think it is. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The sunshine bores the daylights out of me. Chasing shadows moonlight mystery. pgpyXUcNqH5hm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is Visualization possibe. {Typo I mean virtualization.]
Aaron Konstam wrote: > Aws someone pointed ort it is virtualization I mean. You seemed to > understand that but you did not answer the question. For example, > you web page seems to imply that a vmx flag is needed. The list of > kernel options I included above has no vmx flag. Is virtualization a > hardware issue or can it be done completely with software It seems > to me Vmware is a virtualization in software . Is that correct? Indeed, you can do virtualization in software -- what's commonly called para-virt these days. This is what VMware was doing years ago. I read quickly and made the mistaken assumption that if you were asking if a given processor could do virtualization that you meant full hardware virtualization. Otherwise, the answer is that any halfway modern system can do virtualization, even if it's only para-virt. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government working for you. -- Will Rogers. pgpDazJ323lOO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is Visualization possibe.
Aaron Konstam wrote: > /proc/cpuinfo displays cpu flags below. Is this system capable of > visualization? > > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov > pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm > constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr See http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the boot-maker. -- Mikhail Bakunin pgp5AlH4yC3IV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 70, Issue 59
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > You've committed the following no-nos: > > 1) Replying to a Digest. Never do this, not ever. Signing up for the > non-digest version is trivial, and that's the preferred method, but > it's also easy to reply from various aggregation sites such as > Gmane. With respect, I would argue that this isn't as hard and fast a rule as you make it sound. Replying to a digest can be done, especially when using the MIME style digests. This is the list default for new subscribers, and highly recommended for anyone using the digest. This method sends each digest as a MIME message with individual list messages as RFC822 parts. Apart from that little nit-pick, I agree with the rest of your message. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ People are crazy and times are strange I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range I used to care, but things have changed pgpMoRcnYlK1w.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Makefile for lib64 libraries
Steve Searle wrote: > I have just upgraded to 64-bit Fedora, and have a mysql appliation > where the build fails with: > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient > > I know that this is because the library is in lib64, and my > Makefile.am contains: > > bin_PROGRAMS = scraperes > scraperes_SOURCES = main.cpp ... > AM_CPPFLAGS = -I/usr/include/mysql > AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient > > I know I can edit this to have lib64, but what can I do to make it > work for both 64-bit and 32-bit operating systems? Using mysql_config to gather the valuse for CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS might be best. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Unquestionably, there is progress. The average American now pays out twice as much in taxes as he formerly got in wages. -- H. L. Mencken pgpAUZUQKnJOu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > You can also set it as a user's background via the normal > preferences setting and then make that the system default (via the > bottom "Make Default" button). Oh nice. I had looked right past that, even after reading Bill's message. :/ That works fine here as well. Whatever issue Fred's running into, I don't think it's anything that is generally or completely broken. but it seems like he's gone the easy route and overwritten the default image, so we may not find the real cause. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed. -- Irene Peter pgpd4PUmcuaes.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Could you explain a little more what you are trying to do?
>
> If you're just trying to change the wallpaper, what happens when you
> just use the standard menu to do that? Or are you trying to do
> something more?
>
> What behavior do you get when you (from memory)
> system->preferences->appearance->background->add->{select a file}
> and if by default you mean system wide, the [make default] button may help
As the subject says, he's trying to change the background for the GDM
screen. Since GDM doesn't provide a panel, there isn't really a
convenient way to browse to system->preferences->appearance... :)
Using gconftool-2 is generally the best way to achieve this, and works
fine for me on F-12 (as it has in past releases). Why it's not
working for Fred remains to be seen.
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Re: changing GDM background image on F12
fred smith wrote: > all the images in that dir have the same owner and permissions. > selinux is not in enforcing mode, but I tried the command above > anyway. result: no change. > > Is it possible that /usr/share/backgrounds/images isn't the right > place? there are several other dirs in /usr/share/backgrounds, so > maybe I need to try sticking it in other places. I can't imagine how or why that would help. As long as gdm can read the file, it should be good. I used several files from the /usr/share/backgrounds/ tree and they all worked here. You should notice that a new user gets the image you specify (or an existing user that has not set their own background image). It would be worth verifying whether that is the case for you. If it's not, then the problem isn't with gdm but elsewhere. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Put the key of despair into the lock of apathy. Turn the knob of mediocrity slowly and open the gates of despondency - welcome to a day in the average office. pgpboiPnQXJZq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
fred smith wrote: > I've looked thru the forums and done some googling but I don't see an > answer THAT WORKS for this question: > > How to change the default GDM background/wallpaper to some other image? > I've tried all the things listed in the forums and none of them works, > including (but not limited to) copying the image I want into > /usr/share/backgrounds/images then running this command: > > gconftool-2 --direct > --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --set --type > string "/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename" > "/usr/share/backgrounds/images/Fistmaster.FullHD.0190.jpg" > > having done that either log off or reboot and voila! no change at all! :( FWIW, it works for me, using one of the stock images. It does require a restart of gdm (which rebooting surely would cover :). Perhaps the images you added has an SELinux context that gdm does not like? Try a restorecon -rv "/usr/share/backgrounds/images" as well as verifying that the image has permissions which would let the gdm user read it. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A budget is just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well as afterward. pgpkr5J68VJOP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The recent ssl vulnerability
Gene Heskett wrote: > True, but I have little control over that other than threatening to > move my money. That has generally been sufficient so far, and has > cured several cases of blue smoke emitting from both my ears. :-) > But this was I read, a problem on my end, not the banks problem. > This one I was under the impression was up to me to fix. Is this > not the case? Both ends have to be fixed? > > Please elaborate. AFAIK, both sides need to be fixed. But I can't elaborate because I've only read a little about this problem. A number of the links in the bugzilla entry have more details and are probably quicker and better sources of information that I could hope to be. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. -- H. L. Mencken pgpm4wAzhS9LG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The recent ssl vulnerability
Gene Heskett wrote: > Is there any chance of getting the fixed openssl-0.9.8i for F10? > > This has stopped my ability to do any online banking, and with all > the horror stories about regarding loss of X when upgrading to F12, > I really don't want to destroy a working system just to get this > security fixed library. What we F10 users have now: > openssl-0.9.8g-14.fc10.i686 > > So we are way more than one security fix behind. Not really. Just because the version number isn't the very latest doesn't mean the openssl maintainer hasn't backported security fixes. In the case of the recent session renegotiation vulnerabilities, there are some comments in bugzilla about why this has not been pushed as an update yet: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533125#c37 I haven't read up on all the details, but wouldn't ensuring that your bank had upgraded their systems be equally, if not more, important in deciding whether you can trust them? -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Anyone who in discussion relies upon authority uses, not his understanding, but rather his memory. -- Leonardo Da Vinci pgp1DyupLEHXa.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: could the "missing codec" redirection be more informative?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > um ... ok. in that case, why is fedoraproject.org explicitly > pointing people at rpmfusion.org here? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OtherRepositories IIRC, it's because it is allowed to do so in such a general sense. But pointing directly to a particular codec package or automatically enabling it when you try to use such a codec crosses the line into contributory infringement. Most of what can be done within the confines of U.S. law is being done. The legal team at Red Hat are pretty good folks, IMO. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams pgpRxzkMcvsex.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 sha1sum
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Woudld it be possible to do the signature using SHA256 also? On one > of the iso's I recently burned did have a checksum file with a gpg > SHA256 signature hash. That was enough to remind me that I should > be using the SHA256 for checksumming the iso. Yes, that is generally a goal. The F-11 *-CHECKSUM files were signed using a SHA-256 hash. One unfortunate effect of moving to the Sigul signing server for F-12 is that controlling the hash used for gpg signatures is more difficult and resulted in the default SHA-1 being used. However, while using SHA-256 every where is the goal, it's still good to make people aware that the GPG Hash: header and the checksum used for the .iso are not related at all. It seems that far too many people make the mistaken assumption that they are. :/ -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- Franklin P. Jones pgpQY0270a6nf.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: logwatch?
Tom Horsley wrote: > I installed from the DVD iso image. I guess it isn't on that (I > didn't add any network repos at install time either). Apparently it's not. Good call. I guess that settles that minor mystery. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ You can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular. -- Anonymous pgpsXLmjZ0sAb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f12 yum/rpm commands to list all dependencies on a library
Skunk Worx wrote: > On f12 I see a package called oprofile-gui depends on the qt3-3.8b > rpm. > > What command(s) can I run inside a local repo (where all the rpm > packages are) that will tell me how many f12 "Everything" packages > are still using qt3? > > What command(s) can I run for the locally installed package set that > will tell me how many packages are still using qt3? The repoquery command, from yum-utils, is perfect for this task (though it will just query the repodata rather than look at local packages -- generally I think this is preferable, but it's not exactly what you asked for). To find all the dependencies for qt3, this should do the trick: $ repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps qt3 | sort -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost. -- Gustave Flaubert pgpPEvL8LjhiS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 sha1sum
Antonio Olivares wrote: > --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Felipe Nunez wrote: [...] >> when I verify the sha1sum >> for the twice download files I get the same value in both >> cases: >> $ >> sha1sum f12/Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso >> 97a018ba32d43d0e76d032834fe7562bffe8ceb3 >> f12/Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso >> $ >> sha1sum Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso >> 97a018ba32d43d0e76d032834fe7562bffe8ceb3 >> Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso [...] > There was a change to sha256sum , please run > $ sha256sum Fed* > and see if they match or not? We got so many questions on this that we added a large red note to the top of https://fedoraproject.org/verify telling folks that the 'Hash: SHA1' line is part of the PGP signature and has nothing to do with the type of checksum used for verifying the .iso. For future releases, the *-CHECKSUM files will include some instructions and, likely, a link to https://fedoraproject.org/verify to (hopefully) make this clearer. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain pgpcAmYIPmfCo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: logwatch?
Tom Horsley wrote: >> I don't see logwatch installed by default in f12. Is there a >> preferred substitute these days, or should I just "yum install >> logwatch" to get it back? > > I poked around some and didn't find any info on some substitute, so > yum install logwatch has been executed :-). I installed F-12 via a network install of the RC4 tree and I have logwatch installed. It appears to be an optional package in the base group. Did you install via a live image or something else? I'm wondering if that might be why you didn't get logwatch and I did. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpds8CVJNRte.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BZ or other page to request package update?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > where's the proper place to request a package version update? as > in, a new source version just came out, could fedora eventually look > at it and rpm package it for update. or is that done as a regular BZ > request for that package? Yes, bugzilla is the proper place to make such requests. It would be an enhancement request¹, often '[RFE] Update to foo-1.1' or a similar summary. Some maintainers already get notifications of new versions automatically, so checking http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/ would be good. Also, depending on how large the change is in a new version or how quickly upstream makes new releases, many maintainers choose not to push every new version to released versions of Fedora. ¹ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Foxes prefer rabbits with short claws. -- Nadja Adolf pgpI2UoSePAwk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: waldyr.rebello.ss...@uol.com.br
Bob Goodwin wrote: > I thought someone had fixed this last night? > > It's still happening. I can filter it out ... It was fixed, but the individual subscribed again without fixing the problem. That address has now been banned from subscribing. If the individual at waldyr.rebe...@uol.com.br wishes to subscribe again, they should fix the problem and contact the list admins at fedora-list-ow...@redhat.com to request a removal of the subscription ban. (I am making this request on the list because attempting to do so privately resulted in the same annoying challenge reply -- which I have no intention of following.) I'd also like to request that when folks have issues like this that they email the list owner address rather than the list itself. This ensures that the volunteer list admins see the problem (as we all have a number of lists we read and might not notice threads like this on the list). It also avoids cluttering an already high-traffic list with 'administrivia' that is generally not very useful for list members. Thanks, -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I have a very firm gun control policy. If there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it. -- Clint Eastwood Pink Cadillac pgpiwavI4KXTY.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anti-spam UOL
I wrote: > FWIW, I con't recall ever having receieved such messages and I've been > posting here for quite a while. And all it takes is to say that and I get one. ;) The offending account has had list mail disabled until they can fix or disable their antispam setup. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The average woman would rather be beautiful than smart because the average man can see better than he can think. pgpFDirnNnDo3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anti-spam UOL
Gene Heskett wrote: > Please forcibly unsubscribe this person from the list. > From: > AntiSpam UOL Please forward one of these messages with full, unaltered headers to fedora-list-ow...@redhat.com. I recall reading a while back that the source of these messages wasn't an address that is subscribed to the list, but that seems to not be the case anymore, so removing someone who's mail server pesters other posters may well be possible now. FWIW, I con't recall ever having receieved such messages and I've been posting here for quite a while. Also, please direct this sort of issue to the list owner address mentioned above before (and hopefully instead of) posting to the list. There are many thousands of people on the list and keeping posts on topic helps us all make better use of the list. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ When tyranny comes to your door, it will be wearing a uniform. -- Jack McLamb pgpBF95esvjtk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can anyone build guile-1.8.7 on f12?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > in fact, downloading the source rpm for guile-1.8.7 and using > "rpmbuild" to try to build the binary also fails with the same error. > i think it's BZ time. Without seeing the error you're getting, it's rather difficult to help much. The package build logs¹ show it builds successfully on the Fedora build system. Knowing what differs in your attempt might help pinpoint the problem. ¹ http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/guile/1.8.7/3.fc12/data/logs/i686/build.log (Replace i686 with x86_64 to see the logs for that architecture.) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin. -- H. L. Mencken pgptz1rdgh7gH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 bad checksums
Greg Woods wrote: > I have tried twice to download the Fedora 12 DVD ISO's for i386 and > x86_64 through the torrents. In both cases, the SHA1 checksums do > not match what is in the CHECKSUM file. Both of my downloads match > each other. Is this a problem with the ISO's, with the CHECKSUM > file, or a bizarre problem with my download that causes the > checksums to be identically wrong for two different downloads? > > What I get is: > > 0dc8ed436f0b44874454a379e8de5ad057c0115d Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso > > What is in the CHECKSUM file is: > > > f0ad929cd259957e160ea442eb80986b5f01daaffdbcc7e5a1840a666c4447c7 > *Fedora-12-i386-DVD.iso The checksum used i SHA256, not SHA1. You should use sha256sum to chceck them. See https://fedoraproject.org/verify for details. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I expected times like this -- but never thought they'd be so bad, so long, and so frequent. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpXY7jkjMZrU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anybody knows how to compile and install Ubuntu/Debian source packages on and for Fedora 11 x86_64?
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > The source package that I am interested in building and installing > for F11 is here: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/karmic/ufsutils > > After extracting the tarball, I could not find any configure script. This doesn't have much to do with Debian/Ubuntu really, as they are just packaging code they got from FreeBSD. Poking the package source, they use a shell script to pull the sources from the FreeBSD CVS tree: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/glibc-bsd/trunk/ufsutils/debian/upstream.sh There is not a configure script (as many projects don't use one). At a glance, it looks like all you need to do is call make. See the Debian rules file, which covers the steps taken in the process of building the Debian packages: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/glibc-bsd/trunk/ufsutils/debian/rules I suspect you'll be able to find your way through that even if you're not familiar with Debian packaging. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Abstainer, n.: A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" pgplNKewdegoa.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12
Andre Costa wrote: > Just a warning: I just downloaded Fedora-12-x86_64-Live.iso using > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-12-x86_64-Live.torrent and > CHECKSUM file contains a SHA256 checksum although it says it is SHA1. > According to the file: > > Hash: SHA1 That Hash: line is part of the gpg signature. It has nothing to do with the sha256sum data in the file. This is a common misconception that people have. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Unquestionably, there is progress. The average American now pays out twice as much in taxes as he formerly got in wages. -- H. L. Mencken pgpNd0DRcZDm7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Has anyone used bash4 under Fedora 10, 11 or 12?
Steven W. Orr wrote: > Does it cause problems? Does it work ok? It's been used in rawhide for many months now, and what will be Fedora 12. I've seen various minor issues reported and fixed on the bug-bash list. Fedora 12 currently has bash 4.0.33 (which is only slightly behind upstream's 4.0.35 -- and will likely be pushed as an update eventually). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Now there's no more Oak oppression, for they passed a noble law. And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw... pgpzOSGzemeIh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Building an rpm with a modified Makefile
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I may need to build audacity with the Makefile modified to set
> __WXDEBUG__ . The natural way to do this would seem to be to invoke
> $ rpmbuild -bb SPECS/audacity.spec
> edit the Makefile, and then run something like
> $ rpmbuild --short-circuit -bb audacity.spec
> but --short circuit only works for -bc and -bi .
Right, this is to prevent creating packages that are not
reproducible.
> What's the easiest way to do this kind of thing? Would it be to run
> $ rpmbuild --short-circuit -bc audacity.spec
> followed by a make install ? If so, where should the
> $ make install
> be invoked?
I'd never recommend running make install as anything other than a
test, and certainly not as root. If you look just a bit at many
upstream Makefile's, you'd probably be similarly hesitant. :)
What I think you should do is install the SRPM as a normal user (which
rpmbuild in F-10 and above encourage by placing files in ~/rpmbuild by
default, rather than in /usr/src/redhat). Then, edit the spec file as
needed to set __WXDEBUG__. You should also bump the release field
(and add a changelog entry). If the release field is 1%{?dist},
appending a .1 to the end would be customary.
Then rebuild the package with rpmbuild -bb SPECS/audacity.spec (or -ba
if you want to also create a source rpm).
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Re: what's with that trailing "." for the mode from "ls -l"
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:45 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: [...] >> a followup question would be, is there an ls option that would >> *prevent* that security setting character from being printed? i >> ask since i'm working with a software project (openembedded) that >> specifically takes a mode setting in symbolic mode (from the >> output of "ls -l"), and uses sed to translate it to numeric mode, >> and the script to do that doesn't take into account that >> potential trailing period and promptly converts, say, >> "-rwxr-xr-x." to the string "755.", which then causes the >> subsequent call to install to crash with a bad numeric mode >> argument. > > Not that I know of. The "What information is listed" node of the ls > info pages describes the characters used to indicate alternate > access methods when listing files with '-l' but does not mention a > way to suppress this. I would argue that scraping the ls output in this way is broken and that openembedded is what should be fixed (using stat as Sanya suggests is one good alternative). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. -- George Carlin pgp9Lq34YAKbs.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Flash where Greenspan confess he's an idiot
Marcel, Marcel Rieux wrote: > With all due respect... I'll echo what I sent to you privately: this is _entirely_ inappropriate for the fedora-list. Please drop this thread now and refrain from posting such off-topic messages in the future. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case I see a snake - which I also keep handy. -- W. C. Fields pgpp8jEyl3ZBa.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with yum update (iptstate)
L wrote: > please do not police users. Patrick merely pointed out the list guidelines. There is nothing wrong with that, especially when someone has apparently missed them in the list welcome message and the footer of ever post. For reference, those guidelines are at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Every community has standards and norms in some form. I don't think the list guidelines are at all onerous and asking folks to kindly abide by them is quite reasonable. > Nowadays, it is very hard to avoid html email, face reality. It's not about 'facing reality' it's about being courteous. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I believe in the noble, aristocratic art of doing absolutely nothing. And someday, I hope to be in a position where I can do even less. pgp8KNYhG8z9R.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-xen] Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Sigh...Another six months wait... This is a complaint that should be made to the Xen folks for not getting their stuff upstream sooner (I'm sure they would appreciate complaints in unified diff format). It's completely unreasonable to expect the Fedora kernel maintainers to backport non-trivial features like Xen and be able to keep up with normal kernel updates. (They did this in Fedora 8 and earlier and it was a huge burden.) It's good to see things are finally moving upstream now. If Fedora's decision to not include Xen until it was upstream had anything to do with that, then it's a very good thing. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Not only is life a bitch, it has puppies. -- Adrienne E. Gusoff pgpdWo2jNgDjJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my > laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, > and then in the remote repository. Why would you want yum to look in /var/cache/yum/updates on the local system? The only thing that should be there are things already installed. Or do you install and remove things frequently? The /var/cache/yum dirs do not contain a repodata dir, so I don't know if yum can use them as an entry in a baseurl option directly or not. If not, you'd just want to run createrepo on the packages dir and then add something like baseurl=file:///var/cache/yum/updates/packages Personally, I think that's a bunch of work for little gain. If you enough systems that need updates and you don't have bandwidth for them all to update individually, you'd be better off using rsync to create a local mirror or setting up something like IntelligentMirror. > I've looked at a couple of the sites mentioned in this thread, and I > am afraid the instructions are simply too complicated to follow. > (The document you mention seems to have over 100 pages, which to me > is information over-kill.) I'm sorry that the information isn't presented in small enough bites for your taste. The section on creating a private mirror is only a few paragraphs and links to IntelligentMirror if you'd rather check that out. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980) pgpdUabmYV299.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Timothy Murphy wrote: > But couldn't yum just have an option to look for RPMs on the local > network? Ie look first in local cache, then on LAN, then at remote > repo. I would have thought that would be easy to implement. It's trivial to change the yum repo settings to look anywhere you want. It's also possible to become a private mirror and have the default fedora mirrorlists return your own site when clients within your netblock request updates. See How can someone make a private mirror? at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring, which I believe was already mentioned in this thread. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ life, n.: A whim of several billion cells to be you for a while. pgpoUuIpqf9qB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
Timothy Murphy wrote: > I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 > (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) > just by running "yum update". > > Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? > Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? No. When CentOS-6 is released, a yum update on a CentOS-5 box won't update you to 6. You will be able to use yum to update, but it won't be a supported method, much like with Fedora. There are folks here who have updated from Fedora 1 all the way through Fedora 11 using yum. It's possible with a little effort, but it's not supported. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. pgpbwI4ah0P5R.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] run command via ssh - problem
Dan Track wrote: > The basename command works well. At what? Unless your hostname contains a /, I don't see how basename would do anything the way you are using it. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Oh, very funny! Now tell the one that doesn't suck. -- Stewie Griffin pgpFTDzE1zcEI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] run command via ssh - problem
Dan Track wrote:
> Thanks for that, any thoughts on how it fits in with my script:
>
> for i in server1 server2;do ssh r...@$i
> "DNSNAME=\"basename\`hostname\`\";echo $DNSNAME";done
What are you trying to achieve with DNSNAME=\"basename\`hostname\`\";
anyway? If you want the domainname, dnsdomainname or hostname -d seem
better. The basename command is for finding the base name of a file.
If the domainname is what you want, something like this would work:
for i in server{1..2}; do
ssh r...@$i 'DNSNAME=$(hostname -d); echo $DNSNAME'
done
I presume you have other steps in between DNSNAME=... and the echo,
otherwise you would just use ssh r...@$i hostname -d.
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Re: How to get rid from unused entries in ~/.thumbnails
Tim wrote:
> Hmm, I hadn't thought about using that to clear away personal files.
> I've occasionally wiped out that directory, but hadn't looked at it
> recently. I see mine's wasting lots of drive space:
>
> ~]$ du -h .thumbnails/
> 560M .thumbnails/large
> 361M .thumbnails/normal
>
> Sounds extreme, but then I do a lot of photography work.
When disk costs fractions of pennies, is that amount of space even a
concern? I've had my thumbnails dir grow over several GB before,
after moving my photos to new locations. sing the thumbnails are
stored based on the md5 of the path to the image, I ended up
duplicating a lot of thumbnails.
I believe recent nautilus will try to clean up old/invalid thumbnails,
but I don't use nautilus so I've not tested that.
It is pretty simple to whip up a script to delete thumbnails for files
that don't exist anymore. Here's a little bit of python that might be
a start for anyone interested. This only checks the normal size
thumbnails, but would be easy to tweak so it checks large ones as well
(I didn't have any large thumbnails when I wrote it).
#!/usr/bin/python -tt
import os
import sys
import Image
import optparse
from urllib import unquote
from urlparse import urlsplit
default = {
'dryrun': False,
'skip_netpaths': False,
'thumbdir': os.path.expanduser('~/.thumbnails'),
'verbose': 0,
}
usage = '%prog [options]'
parser = optparse.OptionParser(usage=usage)
parser.add_option('-n', '--dry-run', dest='dryrun',
action='store_true', default=default['dryrun'],
help='Perform a trial run with no changes made [%default]')
parser.add_option('-N', '--skip-netpaths', dest='skip_netpaths',
action='store_true', default=default['skip_netpaths'],
help='Skip paths on common network file systems')
parser.add_option('-t', '--thumbdir', dest='thumbdir',
default=default['thumbdir'], metavar='dir',
help='Thumbnail directory [%default]')
parser.add_option('-v', '--verbose', dest='verbose',
action='count', default=default['verbose'],
help='Be verbose (may be used more than once) [%default]')
opts, args = parser.parse_args()
def error(msg):
print >> sys.stderr, msg
def is_netpath(path):
"""Poor man's test for common network filesystem paths."""
for netpath in ('/net', '/smb'):
if path.startswith(netpath):
return True
return False
thumbs = [os.path.join(path, f) for path, dirs, files in os.walk(opts.thumbdir)
for f in files if 'normal' in path and f.endswith('.png')]
bad = {}
skipped = {}
for thumb in thumbs:
try:
thumburi = Image.open(thumb).info['Thumb::URI']
except KeyError:
error('No "Thumb::URI" field in %s' % thumb)
continue
except IOError, error:
error('%s: %s' % (error.strerror, thumb))
continue
scheme, netloc, path, query, fragment = urlsplit(thumburi)
if scheme != 'file':
continue
path = unquote(path)
if is_netpath(os.path.realpath(path)) and opts.skip_netpaths:
skipped[thumb] = path
continue
if not os.path.exists(path):
bad[thumb] = path
if not opts.dryrun:
try:
os.remove(thumb)
except OSError, e:
error('Failed to remove "%s": %s' % (thumb, e.strerror))
continue
print 'Total thumbnails: %d' % len(thumbs)
print 'Bad thumbnails: %d' % len(bad)
print 'Skipped thumbnails: %d' % len(skipped)
if opts.verbose:
for thumb, path in sorted(bad.items(), key=lambda x: x[1]):
print '%s -> %s' % (thumb, path)
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Re: MAC address generator script
Eugeneapolinary Ju wrote: > I just can't find a script that generates a valid MAC address :S > > Has anyone has one? There's one in the cobbler source code (which was pulled from xen). Something like this perhaps: $ cat /tmp/genmac.py #!/usr/bin/python import random def generate_random_mac(): """ Generate a random MAC address. from xend/server/netif.py Generate a random MAC address. Uses OUI 00-16-3E, allocated to Xensource, Inc. Last 3 fields are random. return: MAC address string """ mac = [ 0x00, 0x16, 0x3e, random.randint(0x00, 0x7f), random.randint(0x00, 0xff), random.randint(0x00, 0xff) ] mac = ':'.join(map(lambda x: "%02x" % x, mac)) return mac print generate_random_mac() -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. -- Mark Twain pgpUWIwlsvkRV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: cryptsetup dm_mod
Rick Stevens wrote: > You can only encrypt entire devices (e.g. partitions), not > individual directories or directory trees. > > I'm not sure how your partitioning is set up, but if you used the > default, then you have a "/boot" partition and a "/" partition > (which contains the /home directory). If that's the case, you can > only encrypt /, not /home or /home/jd or /home/jd/Documents. > > In other words, you can only encrypt items starting with "/dev" in > the first column of the output of the "mount" command. There are > exceptions (encrypted NFS volumes and the like), but for 95% of the > world, the preceeding is true. An alternative for François would be to create a loopback filesystem and encrypt that. The result can be mounted at /home/jd/Documents/. Another alternative would be fuse-encfs. IMHO, I think encrypting / is the best all-around option. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. -- Tacitus, Roman senator and historian (A.D. c.56-c.115) pgpvOaF3D1qMk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: where is crontab file for a user
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I think its not Ed. Its the service he is using for his email. Look >> at the message by Steve in this very thread, it has been copied >> too. Looks like both of them use the same service and it is broken. > > Perhaps (I already deleted the offending messages and the list > archives don't preserve headers so I can't check), but in any case > it seems to have been fixed. I moderated the offending address the other night and it will not be unmoderated until the owner of that address replies to the list admins and fixes the problem on their end -- which has not happened yet. But either way, we're free of that particular spam on the list for now. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Life is like an onion: you peel off layer after layer and then you find there is nothing in it. -- James Gibbons Huneker pgp4R5MMOpyUo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Strange behavior with PS1 prompt
Cameron Simpson wrote:
> This is all beautiful, but I think you need to use single quotes
> instead of doubles.
You are correct, of course. I was only concerned with testing the
escape character stuff and I totally overlooked the problem that using
double quotes causes with ${PWD}. Thanks for catching that! :)
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Re: Strange behavior with PS1 prompt
Donald Russell wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:36, Petrus de Calguarium
> wrote:
>> Donald Russell wrote:
>>
>>> Any ideas/suggestions?
>>
>> None, except to report the bug.
>>
>> I have noticed this problem on and off for years and it doesn't
>> have anything to do with the PS1 prompt. Try entering nothing on
>> the command line, then use the up and down arrows, and eventually
>> your prompt will pick up some stuff from a previous command,
>> although, if you press the backspace, you will see that the input
>> mark is as far left as it can go.
>
> OK, thanks... I really only noticed this after putting newlines etc in
> my PS1 prompt, or at least it got more bothersome then.
>
> I'll file a bug against bash...
I don't think this is a bug. Rather, I think the problem is caused by
not escaping the color codes you have embedded in your prompt. Try
this instead:
export PS1="\n\[\033[0;35m\]...@\h] ${PWD}\n$\[\033[0m\]"
The \[ and \] begin and end a series of non-printable characters.
This tells bash not to count those characters when determining the
length of the prompt. So the color escape sequences are wrapped in \[
and \].
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Re: bournal reviews please !?!
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > I use revelation for storing encrypted data like that. It is very > simple and easy to use. Just "yum install revelation". I use revelation as well. It's perhaps not as good for storing random personal data, but for passwords, login info, credit cards, ans such, it is very convenient. It can also import and export its data in numerous formats so if you ever needed to switch to another password manager it should be possible. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows, we need more statesmen. -- Opus pgpHqUj2BTgry.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to find out the parameters of an ext3 filesystem
Dan Track wrote: > On another note I see that stripe-width option in mkfs.ext3 is > missing. Any reasons why that may be the case? You set stripe-width using the -E option. This is documented in the man page on F-10 and F-11 at least. I didn't check rawhide, but I expect it's the same there. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs. -- P.J. O'Rourke pgpgFxOhcceKS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debootstrap
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:44 +0530, devi wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am using debootstrap-1.0.7 on fedora 7 to install the debian or >> any other distribution mirror. But in vain, I always get the below >> error. >> >> The specific command is >> debootstrap --arch i386 hardy /tmp/hardy >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ >> >> O/P is >> "I: Retrieving Release >> E: Failed getting release file >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release"; >> >> Please help me out! > > You want a Ubuntu list. This is a Fedora list. Well, debootstrap is included in Fedora and is quite handy for creating virtual machine images of Debian-based distros. I suspect if this was asked on an Ubuntu list they may well direct you back to a Fedora list since we're the ones providing the debootstrap package. :) Devi, I think the problem is that debootstrap-1.0.7 is too old. And Fedora 7 is long past its supported lifetime. You should update to a supported release and try again. The debootstrap command above works fine for me on Fedora 10 using debootstrap-1.0.10. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. -- Dean Martin pgpv0Jrkg5ebT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.
Tait Clarridge wrote: > All you need to do is look at the %post section of the kickstart > file > > For example: > > %post > > /usr/bin/yum -y update >> /root/post_install_update.log 2>&1 > > This will update the system without you having to do anything and > log what it has done for your viewing pleasure. The disadvantage to this is that it will download a lot more data than is needed if you pull the initial install source as well as the updates. And it takes up a good bit of time if there are a lot of updates. Having anaconda only install the latest packages speeds things up and saves on bandwidth. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Never was a government that was not composed of liars, malefactors and thieves. -- Cicero, last Free Consul of Rome pgpqnjRpXul1u.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.
gary artim wrote: > Thanks for the replybelow is my .ks , i'm installing using vsftp > on a private net. [...] > #platform=x86, AMD64, or Intel EM64T > #version=F11 > # Firewall configuration > firewall --disabled > # Install OS instead of upgrade > install > # Root password > rootpw --iscrypted xxx > # Network information > network --bootproto=dhcp --device=eth1 --onboot=on > # System authorization information > auth --useshadow --passalgo=md5 > # Use text mode install > text > # System keyboard > keyboard us > # System language > lang en_US > # SELinux configuration > selinux --disabled > # Do not configure the X Window System > skipx > # Installation logging level > logging --level=info > # Use network installation > url --url=ftp://10.0.1.1/install/fc11 I think if you add a repo line for the updates repo here, the installer will pull any updated packages from the updates repo. > # Reboot after installation > reboot > # System timezone > timezone America/Los_Angeles > # System bootloader configuration > bootloader --location=mbr > # Partition clearing information > autopart > clearpart --all > > %packages > @base > @development-libs > @development-tools > @hardware-support > ## gridengine > > %post > mkdir /share > echo "10.0.1.1:/share /share nfs hard,timeo=5,retrans=20" >> /etc/fstab > echo "/bin/sleep 120 && /bin/mount -a -t nfs" >> /etc/rc.local > %end -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you wont either. -- Joseph Fischer pgpASimEQYxI6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.
[Please don't top post. Thanks.]
gary artim wrote:
> thanks will read more on this. So would this be a additiion step or
> replacement step (just being lazy now) to using the DVD iso image.
I don't know exactly how you are using the DVD iso image in your
kickstart, so I can't say. I have kickstart configurations that
include the 'Everything' and 'updates' repositories, e.g.:
repo --name=fedora --baseurl=http://example.com/path/to/everything
repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://example.com/updates
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Re: kickstart -- refreshing rpm's.
gary artim wrote: > I have a pxe/kickstart config that uses the install DVD image as the > image to install over the net machines on a specific subnet. My > question is if there is an automated way I could update the Package > directory to the most current (ie patched) rpm's? I'd like to do > this in a way that will continue to work well with Fedora repo > methods. Thanks for any feedback! You should be able to add the updates repo to the kickstart file and have the install use it. Something like: repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://example.com/path/to/updates You can use --mirrorlist instead of --baseurl if you like. For more detail, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The nice thing about egotists is that they don't talk about other people. -- Lucille S. Harper pgpyoRi6oUBYa.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: any site for package of fedora 6
chloe K wrote: > How can I install package for fedora6 Please note that Fedora Core 6 has not been supported for a long, long time and discussion of such versions is generally off-topic here. That said, you might find what you want at http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/ Unless you're using this for a private, non-networked machine, I would strongly recommend that you not use the outdated software from Fedora Core 6. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Drugs may lead to nowhere, but at least it's the scenic route. pgpjuhDzq19gQ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mock can't build x86_64 packages
Clodoaldo Neto wrote: > Trying to build rpm packages with mock in F11 i386: > > I can build i386 packages but not x86_64 as I get this: You can't build for x86_64 on i386. Doing it the other way around works fine though. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer pgpYmO69eZlR9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gedit follows me around like a bad penny
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just built a new FC10 system. When I open gedit, it always stays > in the current workspace. No matter what method I use to switch > workspaces, and if it is the forground task or back a few, it moves > with me. > > Very annoying. > > I did have this once before on another FC10 system but I did not > figure out what I did to get it to stop. > > So how do I stop this bad behavior? Just a guess, but check the window menu, accessible via Alt-Space or clicking on the application icon at the left of the title bar (by default, anyway). If the setting for "Always on visible workspace" is selected, change it to "Only on this workspace" and see if that helps. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Don't look for me in daylight where robots all assemble. You'll find me in my dark world, in my smoke-filled temple. pgpC70jJ41Ywo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debootstrap package
Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > try this > > yum -y install fedora-packager > > fedora-cvs -a debootstrap > > cd debootstrap/devel > > make > > now you have the lasted sources in debootstrap/devel, you can now > build it with rpmbuild -ba debootstrap.spec That will almost surely fail because the package source and any patches are not in the locations rpmbuild expects them to be. But, using "make local" should work, as it calls rpmbuild with the proper options to build from the current directory. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed. -- Irene Peter pgpL5DfS5ACaR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]
Hi Bill, William Case wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:11 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Have you checked the Received headers of the messages in question? > > No I hadn't. I am not sure what I would be looking for. Ahh. Well, you'd want to follow the received headers to watch as each mail server passed the mail along. There will be date stamps. It can often be useful to note when there is a long delay where it occurs, as it can tell you who's system is letting the mail sit. Let's take a look here... > a) instant re-send from fedora list. [...] > Received: from 209.132.177.33 (EHLO hormel.redhat.com) (209.132.177.33) > by mta108.rog.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:52 -0700 > Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com > [10.8.4.110]) by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CAA618E65; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:15 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com > (nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com > (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8RKZCNU006740 for > ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400 > Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com > [10.5.110.8]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) > with ESMTP id n8RKZB8f011863 for ; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400 > Received: from smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com > (smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.224.74]) by mx1.redhat.com > (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8RKYxXu024407 for ; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:00 -0400 > Received: (qmail 82241 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 - [...] > Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (billli...@99.245.242.191 > with plain) by smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; > 27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 - The headers are generally added on top, so the last one in the list above is you connecting to your SMTP server to send the mail. That happened at 20:34:59 - (or 16:34:59 EDT). It went from there to another yahoo.com server before getting to redhat.com and winding through the mailman listserver software and coming back out of redhat.com to yahoo at 13:59:52 -0700 (or 16:59:52 EDT). So this had about a 25 minute round trip. > b) 20+ hour delay re-send from fedora list. > Received: from 209.132.177.33 (EHLO hormel.redhat.com) (209.132.177.33) > by mta108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:16:33 -0700 > Received: from listman.util.phx.redhat.com (listman.util.phx.redhat.com > [10.8.4.110]) by hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89821619323; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com > (nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by listman.util.phx.redhat.com > (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8S1EsKx007371 for > ; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400 > Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com > [10.5.110.7]) by int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) > with ESMTP id n8S1Esu5031734 for ; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400 > Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com > (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.redhat.com > (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8S1EgDh031989 for ; > Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:42 -0400 > Received: (qmail 52082 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2009 01:14:42 - [...] > Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?) (billli...@99.245.242.191 > with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; > 28 Sep 2009 01:14:41 - This one was sent at 01:14:41 - (or 21:14:41 EDT) and arrived back at yahoo.com at 19:16:33 -0700 (or 22:16:33 EDT). So it only had a 1 hour delay. If it took 20 hours for you to see it, the problem surely didn't have anything to do with the list software. It would be with yahoo.com or something local to your system (I don't know if you're reading this via webmail or fetching it via POP3 or IMAP). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. -- W.C. Fields pgp69XdBZKe2n.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I think something is 'stuck' on the fedoara-list ?!? [SOLVED - kinda]
William Case wrote: > Just for future reference, and to add to my own personal knowledge, > I wish I had a better idea of what was going on. I have wasted 2 or > 3 hours try to figure out what I did wrong when I probably haven't > done anything I shouldn't have. It would be nice to be able to > recognize the source of this kind of problem. Have you checked the Received headers of the messages in question? It's quite possible that one of the hops along the way was the source of the delay. Greylisting or other anti-spam tactics might be the cause. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. -- Frank Zappa pgp2xZ2WGH9bO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MD5 sum mismatch in httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm
Peter Taylor wrote: > Downloaded httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm from: > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/12-Alpha/Fedora/source/SRPMS/httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm > > rpm -Uvh httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm > warning: httpd-2.2.11-10.src.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 signature: NOKEY, key > ID 57bbccba >1:httpd warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using > root > warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root > ### [100%] > error: unpacking of archive failed on file > /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/README.confd;4abbe9a7: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch You don't say what version of Fedora this is on (or if it is even Fedora and not RHEL/CentOS), so I can only guess that you're not doing this on Fedora 11 or newer. The problem is that packages in Fedora are now using sha256 hashes instead of md5. Older versions of rpm are not compatible with the stronger hashes, unfortunately. You have a few ways to work around this. A few off the top of my head: 1) Update your mock builder to a newer rpm (a little searching will yield Fedora 10 and RHEL/CentOS 5 packages) 2) Rebuild the httpd srpm from F12-Alpha on an F11 or newer box 3) Build an httpd srpm from the devel branch of Fedora's CVS. Something like: $ cvs -d:pserver:anonym...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs co httpd $ cd httpd/devel/ && make srpm -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ "Do you think there's a God?" "Well, SOMEbody's out to get me!" -- Calvin and Hobbes pgpaEaq9pyVSI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sftp access to fedora11
online.service@gmail.com wrote: > I don't have any ftp server installed/turned on , why i still have > sftp access? Because sftp is provided by ssh. So if you're running an ssh daemon, you'll have sftp by default. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile. -- Hunter S. Thompson pgpzbHwRmzwGp.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > 2009/9/23 Tim : >> On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 11:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> I won't personally touch those sites with a 10 foot piece of cat5. >> >> Hmm, I would have thought that whipping them with a cat-o-five >> tails would be the proper way to deal with them... ;-) > > I'm with you on that one, but i suppose that's why i don't moderate > MLs. Actually, I did send a note directly to the OP noting that they should be more careful when sending out mass invites (or having some service do it for them). While the original post was annoying, it's actually worse to have long threads following it. ;) As a relatively friendly, volunteer list moderator, would it help to ask folks to let this thread and others like it die? If a poster needs dealt with, the proper method of doing so should be sending a note to the list owner address to make us aware of any problem. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A good programmer is one who looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. -- Doug Linder pgpPqgLCxEgrQ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root e-mail (Was Questionable Status)
Mikkel wrote: > Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> >> For a good majority of Fedora desktop users, that root mail is >> never read. >> > This is not good. Maybe a modification of the install procedure to > set an alias so that all mail goes to the first normal user that is > set up? Or an option to do this as part of the install? What do you > think? This only helps if users read local mail, which I doubt is much more likely than reading root's mail spool. For desktop installs, there is a proposed feature to not install any MTA by default and send all cron output and other things that are currenly mailed to root to logfiles instead. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA For the typical desktop user this will probably be about the same as now. Instead of having unread messages in /var/spool/mail/root, they'll be in /var/log/*. :) For those of use acustomed to having an MTA installed and sending root's mail somewhere it is read, it will just be a matter of installing the MTA of our choice. (Which for me would be slightly simpler, as I wouldn't have to handle removing sendmail and replacing it with postfix.) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration, which is why engineers sometimes smell really bad. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpgbg3kcIaZh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Boot.log question/fix ?
William Case wrote: >> I believe those are the ascii codes to change the colors. more or cat >> the file instead of editing it. :) >> > Right you are! Interesting. 'cat' and 'more' /var/log/boot.log prints > a proper colourized file to stdout. However 'less' and > 'gnome-system-log' only show me the ASCII colour codes without actually > colourizing. Is you use less -R /var/log/boot.log the color escape sequences should be rendered properly. I've got no clue about gnome-system-log. > Of course it's not a big problem, but I would like to fix it. Any > suggestions? > > Add while I am at it, the boot.log gives me this message: > ... > Enabling the nvidia driver: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 513: 1326 > Segmentation fault "$@" >[FAILED] It may be that nvidia-config-display is crashing. From a very quick look, that seems to come from /etc/init.d/nvidia. Maybe you can poke around there and see which command is failing. I think it's probably: action $"Enabling the $name driver:" $exec enable where name=nvidia and exec="/usr/sbin/$name-config-display" -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955) pgpKsGkVFNv4M.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to use fedora-11 source dvd?
Abhishek Sharma wrote: > I accidentally downloaded the fedora-11-source-DVD, instead of > downloading the bootable version of fedora. Now I have few doubts > regarding this DVD. > > 1. Can I use it to install fedora? I'm sorry to tell you that you cannot. > 2. Can I use it to install packages contained in it? You can install packages from the source DVD, but they are the source rpms, not the binary rpms. They would not be useful for running any of the programs that the binary packages provide. The source packages are useful for inspecting the source code and patches used to create Fedora, or if you want to customize them or fix bugs in the packaging. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There are three ways to get something done: do it yourself, hire someone, or forbid your kids to do it. -- Monta Crane pgp50m9rwiIc9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: libgpod: how to use new iPod Nano with built-in video camera
Dario Lesca wrote: > The last version of gtkpod/libgpod is no more compatible with the > new version of iPod Nano with built-in video camera. > > Someone have some suggest for manage this new version of iPod? This is the nano released in the past week or two? AIUI, the database has format has changed a good bit on these models, it's much more like the database on the iPhone and iPod Touch. One of the libgpod guys plans to commit some initial code for handling the new database format soon, but it's definitely not there yet. I know, this doesn't tell you much that you didn't already know, sorry. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound. pgpNCzSfAIvpX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: simple way to build rpm?
Fernando Cassia wrote: > Could you please tell what is wrong with checkinstall other than "it > sucks" ?? The biggest problem with checkinstall is that it requires you to run it as root. If you've taken a look at many of the Makefiles shipped with a lot of software, you'd be very cautious about running 'make install' as root, which is what checkinstall proceeds to do. This opens you up to any mistakes or malicious code in the software's Makefiles. Say the Makefile tries to run rm -rf /$DESTDIR as it starts. And oops, it manages to not set $DESTDIR. That's fun. (It doesn't help that checkinstall itself is a 3000 line shell script. That has a lot of potential for adding bugs.) The last time I looked closely at the packages it produced (which has been a while now), they weren't at all close to something that would meet the standards that Fedora sets for its packages. > I'm sure the author of checkinstall would be more than happy to > receive bug reports. I am not a user of checkinstall and have no intention to be one. So I've got no reason to submit bug reports there. I submit my fair share, so I don't feel guilty in the slightest here. :) I don't mean to disparage the checkinstall author(s). I just don't find it to be useful or a good thing to suggest others use. > Instead, the attitude I saw here was that checkinstall sucks, and > that everybody should build RPMs the traditional (complex) way. I'm sorry if that's the impression you got. I thought that I'd provided a useful link to introductory documentation on creating clean packages for Fedora. If that's not helpful, I'm sorry. BTW, have you checked out the checkinstall README¹ file? It's not like it's a 10 line document. I could make a handful of packages in the time it would take me to read that. Or I could read the wiki page on creating rpm packages. :) ¹ http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/docs/README -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician. pgpKmjZxA6QBR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: simple way to build rpm?
Fernando Cassia wrote: > It is just RIDICULOUS not to have an automated way to create RPMs. Feel free to write such a tool. Those that exist have various fatal flaws. I'd certainly never use checkinstall on my system nor would I want anyone producing rpms with it for inclusion in Fedora. :) > If I can download some source file, and then ./configure make and > make install, this automated tool is perfectly capable of finding > the base system, the files installed during the process, and the > requirements. Again, feel free to write it. No one else has done a good job of this yet. > I just don't understand this *nix attitude that "complex is good". > End users might want to create their own RPMs, too. That's not the attitude here at all. The point is that creating a proper package requires just a little bit of knowledge of the packaging system you are using. Sure, you can often use tools that automate some of this, but you need to understand how the system works if you hope to be able to pick up where such tools fall short. I could create a simple package in a few minutes these days. For more complex software, it might take a little longer, but it's still not at all onerous a task. And I started out as just such an end user that wanted to create my own packages. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid. -- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855) pgpIXNIdPsM6z.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root GDM login failing on F11
Aaron Gray wrote: > I am still having problems logging in using GDM. I have removed the > suffix " user != root quiet" from /etc/pam.d/gdm, which works on > F10, but not on two F11 system instillations. Please ask yourself whether you have any need to do something that makes your system much less secure. This comes up often and the archives are littered with reasons why it's a poor choice. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_Root_User_For_GNOME_Display_Manager -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation. -- H. H. Munro (Saki) (1870-1916) pgpyBba4DEBxb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system/admin menu
Anne Wilson wrote: > Maybe because sysadmins are not 'normal users'? If you are > responsible and experienced enough to use a sysadmin application, > you are experienced enough to know how to get to it. That might explain why such bugs go unnoticed, as many admins might never use the menus. :) But still, if the application installs a menu entry, it should either work as the user or prompt the user for the needed credentials. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ How's about shutting the hell up!? -- Stewie Griffin pgpiSBx8m20R9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit
Robert L Cochran wrote: > Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different > view and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs > and practices. Please don't conflate personal freedom with ignoring list norms and basic netiquette. This is akin to insisting on smoking when you are at a guests house who asks you not to smoke. If you choose not to heed the list guidelines, fine. But please don't waste our time defending your refusal to be considerate to the other list members. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ To succeed, jump as quickly at opportunities as you do at conclusions. -- Benjamin Franklin pgprUzvTaZUey.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system/admin menu
Anne Wilson wrote: > Try launching the application from a root konsole. I think some > sysadmin apps don't work properly from user menus. And if that's the case, it's surely a bug if a package installs a menu item that does not work for normal users. I'd file bugs for any such menu items. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ If age imparted wisdom, there wouldn't be any old fools. -- Claudia Young pgpL5QyWdUQvJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: enabling root over ssh on F11
Aaron Gray wrote: > I need to enable root access via sshd. I will be using certificates and > firewalled access. > I tried remove the suffix " user != root quiet" from /etc/pam.d/gdm. This only affects login via the Gnome Display Manager. > Also added "PermitRootLogin yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. This is, AFAIK, the default. It doesn't hurt having it, but it should not be required. > Also put SELinux into Permissive mode. > > But still neither root sshd nor login work. I know that root logins via sshd work on F11, and there isn't anything special required to allow it that I am aware of. I think you should post the details of the failure you are seeing. Running ssh with -vvv for more verbose output might help. Also, check /var/log/secure on the server to see if it includes any relevant information. If you are using key based authentication, you should look for lines indicating that the ownership and permissions on your keys are incorrect. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Chemistry is applied theology. -- Augustus Owsley Stanley pgpnjpGratHdV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Guess who's right behind Ubuntu at Distrowatch
Tom Horsley wrote: >>> ... And they use deb-packages - there's no yum. > > They guys who have to actually package up our software at work > consider that an advantage. From the practical complications > involved in packaging, they say deb packages are infinitely easier > to understand and generate than rpms. That's simply opinion, just as I feel that packaging rpms is infinitely easier than packaging debs. I've done a bit of both and I would take a single spec file anyday over the much higher number of files involved in created anything more than a dirt-simple deb package. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpK7PiWq3pIO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora11 /usr/share/dict/words file
online.service@gmail.com wrote: > is there a way i can install /usr/share/dict/words file for fedora 11 > , (it should be a list of dictionary English words?)? Sure, install the words package. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There is no sweeter sound than the crumbling of your fellow man. -- Groucho Marx pgpLkbJ3quEkL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help with Fedora Research
Please don't top post, thanks. S.W. Bobcat wrote: > I am a loyal Fedora USER, and it is a shame that the Fedora > Leadership seems unwilling to listen to the complaints of its USERS. > I'm still ising Fedora 8 and I'm hoping that in Fedora 12 the Fedora > Leadership will have at long last started listening to its USERS. If listening means having others do the work of scratching other people's itches, that's not likely to happen. OTOH, I have found that it's very easy to get involved and start fixing things that I find could use improvement within Fedora, be it packaging, infrastructure, and many other areas. The people who do the work are more than happy to have new help. > If Fedora 12 is another overhyped piece of garbage long on promises > and short on delivery, I think that I'll simply start using CentOS. That's fine. You'll still be benefiting greatly from the work of the folks in the Fedora community. > My message to the Fedora Leadership: FIX THE STUFF ALRADY IN FEDORA > AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS BEFORE ADDING NEW HALF BAKED SOFTWARE. I personally have found that in open source projects, complaints are best received in unified diff format. ;) Seriously, the best way to improve things is to be involved. You could shout from the sidelines all you want, but it's never as likely to get you results as getting on the field and helping. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom. -- Arthur Schopenhauer pgpJ4CX1kSAtE.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: simple way to build rpm?
Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote: > I'd just use template specfile in Fedora's vim distribution. (Just > type vim something.spec) It's almost (almost) as easy as > checkinstall (if the build is that simple, just plain autotools > without anything fancy), and you can reuse the specfile for newer > versions. FWIW, this should work from emacs as well. You can also use the rpmdev-newspec command from rpmdevtools to create a new spec from a variety of templates, e.g. perl, python, ruby, etc. See 'rpmdev-newspec -h' for a list of types. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo pgpJ83kkDlVix.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: simple way to build rpm?
Valent Turkovic wrote: > I haven't made rpm package from source a looong time ;) > > The procedure used to be very simple: > > ./configure > make > checkinstall make install Ewww, checkinstall is _not_ recommended¹ (and never was by anyone worth listening to as far as I am concerned). > What is the way to simple make a rpm packet? There is a nice document on the Fedora wiki describing the process: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package ¹ One of the problems with checkinstall (as of the last time I remember looking at it) was that it wants to be run with root privileges. One of the most important rules in rpm packaging is: NEVER BUILD PACKAGES AS ROOT. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ TEAMWORK ... means never having to take all the blame yourself. pgp5n8tcNvM2E.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???
Mike Wright wrote: >># ll -d /usr/tmp >>lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp -> ../var/tmp > > shouldn't that be ../../var/tmp ? Why? When you're in /usr, it's only one .. to get to /var. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The shortness of life, so often lamented, may be the best thing about it. -- Arthur Schopenhauer pgpJC7uU9nQdG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: /usr/lib vs /usr/lib64
online.service@gmail.com wrote: > It seems i have two python2.6 folders located in /usr/lib vs > /usr/lib64 respectively. Most python stuff (source) is in > /usr/lib64/python2.6 but when in installed packages they have been > put into /usr/lib/python2.6 Architecture-dependent python modules go in /usr/lib64/python*, while architecture-independent modules go in /usr/lib/python*. Python's module path checks both for modules when importing. > How the system decides which directory to go when python is > requested, and how it finds the packaged i installed? Properly packaged modules in Fedora use get_python_lib() from distutils.sysconfig. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? -- George Carlin pgpLGmJDlKfN3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)
Chris Adams wrote: > I was just looking to see if Maxmind had an IPv6 database (we use > Maxmind's country database that is available for free here), and > they show US for my IPv6 IP. I would guess there's a bug in > mirrormanager's handling of IPv6 and geoip lookups. Ahh, then yeah, that seems like a bug. I'll leave that to you and Matt in the ticket. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness. pgpYfdw0P6v88.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)
Chris Adams wrote: > It appears that the mirrormanager is not handling IPv6 correctly. I > have a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel (from Ashburn, Virginia) to my > home network, and now mirrormanager is giving me non-geolocated > URLs. I needed to install something, and one hit downloaded from > Brazil, and the next hit from Russia. > > I've filed this here: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1645 I recall Matt Domsch mentioning this when he set things up yesterday. The geo-ip information available to mirrormanager from Maxmind isn't very complete. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams pgpgQW6nSbQqv.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)
Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I see fedoraproject.org has a record now (how new is that?) but > the IP is not responding today. Access to fedoraproject was working > up until today so I'm not sure if the record is brand new today > or if it's just down. The records were added in the past few hours. If it's causing any problems the folks in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net would probably like to know. That, or file a ticket with the infrastructure team via https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ (this requires a Fedora Account). > $ ping6 fedoraproject.org > PING fedoraproject.org(2610:28:200:1::fed0:1) 56 data bytes > ^C > --- fedoraproject.org ping statistics --- > 11 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 10721ms > > I cannot use yum in this situation. I can access > http://ipv6.google.com just fine. Hmmm, I'm sure blocking access to updates was part of the IPv6 rollout plan. ;) If the problem persists, filing a ticket or poking into #fedora-admin might be the quickest way to get it resolved. I'll point this thread out a while, in case it's a known problem. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans. -- William Jefferson Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A) pgpcAXOThpCxG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: httpd problems [SOLVED]
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > So that little program (System->...->HTTP) should be > updated to reflect the proper pid path location - this > could be a minor issue, but can cause others headaches > in trying to figure it out! ;) Someone has already filed this in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515331 FWIW, using http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/$package makes finding open bugs really easy. It was trivial to browse the list for s-c-httpd and notice one with /var/run/httpd.pid in the title. http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/system-config-httpd -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There are no facts, only interpretations. -- Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols pgpgw0nqL9h9p.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Announcing Fedora 12 Alpha
Jay Mistry wrote: > What is the mail list where Fedora Project new release announcements > are made; also for GNOME & KDE releases for Fedora ? > > I am presently subscribed only to the main Fedora list (i.e. this one: > fedora-list@redhat.com), and woefully out of date on new release info. Important announcements (like releases) are sent to the fedora-announce-list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams pgpn5iDMUTObg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Announcing Fedora 12 Alpha
Jay Mistry wrote: > Also, what's the fastest way (http / ftp) to download the DVD ISO from > the mirrors; I am on a cable connection @ 256 kbps (not particularly > fast, would take about 30 + hours at that speed to get the full 4 GB > DVD ISO). I tend to get the best speeds from bittorrent. I'm not sure if that would hold true for your connection or if many of the mirrors could manage to saturate your available bandwidth. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Ninety percent of everything is crap. -- Sturgeon's Law pgpkgof028YJ9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Announcing Fedora 12 Alpha
William John Murray wrote: > Thanks to all those working on this... > > But the Live media the x86_64 direct download says 'forbidden', > while the other 3 live-media links all work. However I cannot use > bittorrent here Give it a little time. Not all of the mirrors have synced since the bit was flipped to open the release. Alternately, you could try some of the other mirrors listed at http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/12-Alpha/ -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused. pgpRNWrKjU9hR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Quewstion on Evolution Bug reprt
Aaron Konstam wrote: > When I run evolution I sometimes get a bug report. The part of the > report that describes the error I have included below. Can anyone > expplain its meaning and how the errors can be fixed? > > --- .xsession-errors (56 sec old) - > For log files check /home/akonstam/.beagle/Log/current-Beagle. > ** (nautilus:2136): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported > ** (evolution:2512): DEBUG: Loading Exchange MAPI Plugin > ** (evolution:2512): DEBUG: MAPI listener is constructed with 0 listed > MAPI accounts > ** (evolution:2512): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution > --component=mail %s > ** (evolution:2512): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyzor/__init__.py:11: > DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module > instead > import sha > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyzor/client.py:11: DeprecationWarning: > the multifile module has been deprecated since Python 2.5 > import multifile > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pyzor/__init__.py:429: > DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters > super(ThreadId, self).__init__(i) The pyzor package needs to be fixed to use the python hashlib module instead of the deprecated sha module and something else used in place of the multifile module. I see from a very quick look at http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/pyzor that this has been reported as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/514791. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There is no end to the laws, and no beginning to the execution of them. -- Mark Twain pgpwc5ODwHzMU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dovecot update warning
Tom Horsley wrote: > Its complicated :-). What? I thought everything was black and white. Now you tell me there are shades of gray. ;-) > Dovecot isn't really the one losing the mail, it depends on how > sendmail or postfix or whatever you are using is configured. Ahh, thanks for explaining it. I was thinking with the default configuration you could lose mail. It's a little better if that's not the case. Of course, losing mail anytime is no good if it's mail you wanted. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ You will rue this day! Well, go on! Start ruing! -- Stewie Griffin pgpjp1Dlv4I7e.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dovecot update warning
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:19:46 -0400 Bill McGonigle wrote: > >> would a sed script to fix this be appropriate in the RPM? Sorry, I >> forget if scripts can know if they're running in upgrade mode. Yeah, rpm does provide a mechanism for scriptlets to know if they are installing, upgrading or removing. But... > If past experience is any indication, it is easier to find and fix > these things manually than to try and automate them with "helpful" > scripts that can't possibly be tested on every config file everyone > has manually modified in weird and wonderful ways :-). what Tom says here is quite true. :) > Perhaps a script that printed a big warning saying Hey! Your config > file mentions the "cumsieve" plugin that is no longer provided!, but > didn't try to actually fix it itself would be helpful. That won't happen in proper Fedora packages as printing text via a package scriptlet it is strongly frowned upon. It seems to me that if the dovecot update can cause loss of mail through incompatible changes, it should not be pushed to a stable release in the first place. If that's the case and you lost mail because of this, it's surely worth filing a bug so the maintainer knows about the problem. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- Franklin P. Jones pgpxJPMRET398.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Epiphany package maintainer?
Steve Blackwell wrote: > This plainly says >>> there will be no more bugfixes for version > 2.26 and earlier. <<< > > Now you say there will be bugfixes. Who am I to believe? That says the upstream developers will not provide bugfixes to that release. It doesn't preclude the Fedora package maintainers (or maintainers for other distros) from producing bugfixes. (I'm not saying the maintainers will be able or willing to do so, but the are certainly free to if they can. In fact, anyone could float a potential patch and speed up the process. I'm a firm believer that as often as possible, complaints about software deficiencies are best received when made in unified diff format. ;) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. pgp0XkXCNCLea.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Steven W. Orr wrote:
> and lsd is left as an exercise for the student. ;-)
Ha! I've had lsa and lsd as simple aliases for ages and always
chuckle about their alternate meanings when I use them (which isn't
all that often, as I trained myself to type the extra ' -{A,d}'
anyway). ;)
Thanks for a combining a handy tip with a good laugh Steven!
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Re: list files but not directory
(Please don't top post.) ann kok wrote: > ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory And do you just not want to see the contents of any directories or not see them at all? Using 'ls -d1' you would see the directory name in the output, but not the files inside it. To avoid that, I think you need to use find or some other tool, though I'm not positive that there isn't a way to do it with ls that I don't know about. You could use 'find -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f' perhaps. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Everything the government touches turns to crap. -- Ringo Starr pgpQ47oSjrHIL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
