Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
Les Mikesell wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: Any code under a compatible license can be combined with GPL code. The GPL applies to the "work as a whole", but does not remove the license from the other parts which are under compatible licenses. They can be removed from the GPLed work and reused

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Thursday 24 July 2008 18:03, Gordon Messmer wrote: but did you just say that you have an entirely uninformed opinion that you'd like to contribute? No no no, I said that I am uninformed about the *history* of the two projects (except some rudimentary information, mos

Re: How do I set up networked printers in F9 ?

2008-07-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 July 2008 21:41:59 linuxguy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:37 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Have you actually tried it? You may find that GIMP or xsane can > > already see > > it. > > I installed xsane and it can't see it. > > > If not, install hplip and run (as root) hp-setup.

Re: How do I set up networked printers in F9 ?

2008-07-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 July 2008 21:41:59 linuxguy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:37 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Have you actually tried it? You may find that GIMP or xsane can > > already see > > it. > > I installed xsane and it can't see it. > > > If not, install hplip and run (as root) hp-setup.

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread Stuart Sears
Todd Denniston wrote: > Stuart > > Thanks for the recipe. you're welcome > if /rootlockeddown/ is on NFS, would the following command do part of > what is needed? (yet more complexity, but then we do have a real world > to live in :) >setsebool -P use_nfs_home_dirs=1 seems that it might. It

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread ksh shrm
Why are they filling up the stacks with discussing on this topic. There are many other needy threads that require your tech advice. This is philosophical, spread ur technical knowledge. Please don't continue this topic again and again. It's a request! adios KSH SHRM People don't care how much

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Tim wrote: > Speaking as someone who studied (at college) computing from the > component level, and has built systems from the chip level.  I mean > breadboarding CPUs, RAM, I/O, etc., not just putting together IBM > clones.  As well as studying programming at that level (hand compiling > the op-co

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: > It's no different than adding myself to lp group. While that might > allow me to print, it doesn't really solve the problem and I can get > it to print anyway. It does raise the point that some definition of what some system groups are meant

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Todd Zullinger pobox.com> writes: > Perhaps something like this would work? > > yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be upgraded too. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:16:48AM +0930, Tim wrote: > Marko Vojinovic: > >> But tell me, what is in principle The Single Most Important element > >> of the car? There is only one answer --- the engine. > > Alexandre Oliva: > > So, what remains to be justified is why you decided Linux is the > > e

Re: Adjust the fonts of QT-based programs

2008-07-25 Thread Skunk Worx
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How to adjust the fonts of QT-based programs? (Using F9 and XFCE.) Thanks in advance, Paul For qt3 I 'yum install qt3-config' then run the command 'qtconfig'. After adjustments the resulting qtrc file is saved below your home .qt directory. To make this syste

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 24, 2008, Nifty Fedora Mitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recall, the name of this line that joins the kernel (Linux) and > application space (think HelloWorld, X-windows and more) is the "question > I am asking". Of interest the "omissions" in the list of system calls > commonly show up

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 25, 2008, Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that glibc had to be re-written to accommodate the Linux > kernel. Nah. Rewritten is a large exaggeration. Most of GNU libc is independent of whatever kernel is running under it, and that's how it should be. Only the thin system

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Gordon Messmer wrote: Any code under a compatible license can be combined with GPL code. The GPL applies to the "work as a whole", but does not remove the license from the other parts which are under compatible licenses. They can be removed from the GPLed work and reused under their origin

DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Everyone, The DNS attacks are starting!!! Below is a snippet of a logwatch from last night. Be sure all DNS servers are updated if at all possible. The spooks are out in full on this security vulnerability in force. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING...!!! Patch or Upgrade NOW! James Kosin A long t

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Recall, the name of this line that joins the kernel (Linux) and application space (think HelloWorld, X-windows and more) is the "question I am asking". Of interest the "omissions" in the list of system calls commonly show up as hardware specific ioctl() side doors. Pe

Re: Physical Authentication Tokens

2008-07-25 Thread Todd Denniston
Bjoern Schiessle wrote, On 07/24/2008 07:37 PM: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If you are prepared to hack PAM modules then you can write your own for whatever toys you like playing with (be that RFID, smart cards or even stuff like querying a password on a mobile phone via a java applet o

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: That's what enables GNU libc to offer the same API and, at times, even the same ABI, while targeting very different kernels. Who did that port?? Linus and his team? Most certainly. I can't quite picture the GNU project putting resources into the early development of G

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 12:47 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Tim wrote: > > Speaking as someone who studied (at college) computing from the > > component level, and has built systems from the chip level. I mean > > breadboarding CPUs, RAM, I/O, etc., not just putting together IBM > > clones. As well

Re: F9: Network address problems

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:35 -0500, Seann Clark wrote: > All, > > I have had issues with Fedora lately (past 4 version now) that most > of the time I have gotten past after a while, but don't have anything > uniform to solve this. Here is the situation: > > When installing a new system to

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread max
Stuart Sears wrote: Todd Denniston wrote: Stuart Thanks for the recipe. you're welcome if /rootlockeddown/ is on NFS, would the following command do part of what is needed? (yet more complexity, but then we do have a real world to live in :) setsebool -P use_nfs_home_dirs=1 seems that

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:51 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > came back when I tried to print from Firefox... > > so maybe you *and* firefox need to be in 'lp' group. > > > -- > > tc,hago. > The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. > --

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:52 +, g wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: > > >> Craig White wrote: > > >> > > >>> I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your > > >>

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Jim van Wel
Zhe zombies are coming But we are all aware of this fact after release of the patch ;) Greetings, Jim. > Everyone, > > The DNS attacks are starting!!! > Below is a snippet of a logwatch from last night. Be sure all DNS > servers are updated if at all possible. The spooks are out in full on

Re: Network printer setup

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:57 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: > Hi there all, > > Is there some detailed guide line on haw to setup a printer? I am new on > Linux and most of the entry I do not even know what it means. I would > very much appreciate if some one can give me a detailed guideline on > wha

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/7/25 Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Todd Zullinger pobox.com> writes: >> Perhaps something like this would work? >> >> yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' > > Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be > upgraded

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: It's no different than adding myself to lp group. While that might allow me to print, it doesn't really solve the problem and I can get it to print anyway. It does raise the point that some definition of what some system groups a

Re: F8 NetworkManager going crazy at startup

2008-07-25 Thread Phil Meyer
Christoph Höger wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 16:18 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist: Hi, I've noticed a problem with NM recently (might've happened after a system update, not 100% sure when it started). When I log into KDE, NM starts connecting to the network. It used to connect eth0

help w/drive encryption key on usb flash drive

2008-07-25 Thread Daniel Mitton
I am building a new system and what I want to do encrypt the internal HD partitions, but have the key/password on a USB flash drive. Is this possible? Do I need to boot from the flash drive or can I boot from the internal HD? Do I need LiveCD? Any good how-to resource I could get pointed

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Jim van Wel wrote: Zhe zombies are coming But we are all aware of this fact after release of the patch ;) Greetings, Jim. I know; but there is always somebody who always says, "It won't happen to me." And sadly they usually never learn their lesson even if repeated multiple times. I at

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread ksh shrm
Is there anything we all care about. We are normal users who don't have any server at home. Just a PC with internet connection to surf. adios KSH SHRM People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care... 2008/7/25 James Kosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jim van Wel wrote: > >>

system-network-config - crashing!!

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
Hi. I've got Fedora 8, on a x64 amd dual core. (don't have the kernel right now). I run system-networ-config, and i get the dialog box displayed, indicating that an error is being thrown somewhere in the pythonic scripts. The error has apparently been logged in the fedora bugzilla. Has anyone el

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
James Kosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'com/ANY/IN' denied: 30 Time(s) >client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'gmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 32 > Time(s) >client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'hotmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 31 Thanks for posting. Maybe thi

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
ksh shrm wrote: Is there anything we all care about. We are normal users who don't have any server at home. Just a PC with internet connection to surf. adios KSH SHRM I guess there era a lot of abnormal users on this list them. And it is a concern even if you do not run a name server, becaus

Re: Evolution Conduits in FC9

2008-07-25 Thread Oliver Sampson
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 14:07 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 23:01 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 13:00 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 21:07 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to get my Treo 600 to synch with E

RE: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub is, do you really know if the DNS/IP you're switching to is safe! The best appr

Evolution/Treo Synch Problem

2008-07-25 Thread Oliver Sampson
Hi, I've got a funny thing happening with my Evolution/Treo synching. Everything seems to synch fine, however, the Treo reports that the connection was lost to the computer, and when I manually launch gpilotd so that I can see its output, everything there looks pretty cool--the synchronization isn

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:19 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing > >> repository. It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to > >>

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Antonio Olivares
> Why are they filling up the stacks with discussing on this > topic. Because many users on the list consider it very important. Yes there might be other issues equally important like global warming and World Peace, but that is beyond the scope of this mailing list. > There are many other needy

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread BRUCE STANLEY
--- "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > I gather Mikkel, that this means that you have moved from the sidelines > > of criticizing the pointlessness of this thread to participation. > > > > Craig > > > No really. I was just trying to add a bit of humor to i

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
bruce wrote: As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub is, do you really know if the DNS/IP you're switching to is safe!

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: James Kosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'com/ANY/IN' denied: 30 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'gmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 32 Time(s) client 143.215.143.11 query (cache) 'hotmail.com/ANY/IN' denied: 31 Thanks

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
BRUCE STANLEY wrote: Why don't we all just agree that Stallman and the FSF are the Borg and the GPL is the elixir used to assimilate software (and people). Resistance is futile. ;-) Because when your license is strictly a limitation on the way your product can be improved, your com

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
James Kosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But, the patches out don't fix the issue totally. That would require > a complete re-write of the DNS and how DNS works. This is something > already in the works. > The patch just makes it more difficult to trigger the issue. I'm > using the patched ver

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Les Mikesell wrote: > I've forgotten the timing, but I don't think Posix had a full/useful > spec until well after Linux. AT&T's SVID spec (published for sysvr4 > around 1989) would have been about right. Posix wasn't very complete > until 1995 or so. On the third of July 1991, Linus Torvalds as

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread James Kosin
Les Mikesell wrote: bruce wrote: As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub is, do you really know if the DNS/IP you'

Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread Beartooth
Very often (more often than not), when I c&p a URL into Firefox 3 (under F9), I get an error which might as well be in hieroglyphics a; ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:()

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > Why don't we all just agree that Stallman and the > FSF are the Borg and > > the GPL is the elixir used to assimilate software > (and people). > > > > Resistance is futile. ;-) > > > > Because when your license is strictly a limitation on the > way your > product can be improved, y

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Björn Persson wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: I've forgotten the timing, but I don't think Posix had a full/useful spec until well after Linux. AT&T's SVID spec (published for sysvr4 around 1989) would have been about right. Posix wasn't very complete until 1995 or so. On the third of July 1991,

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > ksh shrm wrote: > > Is there anything we all care about. > > We are normal users who don't have any server at home. > > I guess there era a lot of abnormal users on this list them. Yeah, I'm abnormal. And my DNS server is upgraded. Björn Persson -- fedora-list maili

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
Les Mikesell wrote: > If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what > you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the > target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly > there for the target site. Check that the domain name in th

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread g
Aaron Konstam wrote: The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. anyway, i added '' only because i had added 'firefox'. maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was also necessary that i was in 'sane' and 'xsane' group. fo

Re: Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread stan
Beartooth wrote: Very often (more often than not), when I c&p a URL into Firefox 3 (under F9), I get an error which might as well be in hieroglyphics a; ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,21475000

RE: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread bruce
bjorn... while what you say makes sense... the vast majority of people pop up their favorite browser, and go to a site.. there's no way these guys (my mother included) are going to get into the esoteric details of what goes on behind the scenes for the browser/dns/certificates/etc... it's up to t

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:14 +, g wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. > > anyway, i added '' only because i had added 'firefox'. > > maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in > mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was

Re: Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 11:15 -0700, stan wrote: > Beartooth wrote: > > Very often (more often than not), when I c&p a URL into > > Firefox 3 (under F9), I get an error which might as well be in > > hieroglyphics a; > > > > ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! > > Stack Tr

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan gmail.com> writes: > Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into > the relationship between the various repos. I started using kde-redhat a > few weeks back in order to get a preview of KDE 4.1, and it has gone > pretty well all in all. What I'd like t

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Björn Persson wrote: If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly there for the target site. Check that the domain name in the

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Joonas Sarajärvi gmail.com> writes: > Wouldn't these [libraries] be upgraded due to dependencies? Only where the dependencies are versioned. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
James Kosin wrote: If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly there for the target site. The best approach, would probably

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into > the relationship between the various repos. kde-redhat is a personal repo of mine. essentially the "rawhide of kde", where I sometimes put the latest kde bits built for fedora releases (like F-9

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Cox
> Yes, there was some version of the Posix standard in that time frame. > It was just incomplete and described some mythical system that matched > no existing BSD or SysV flavor, so it was mostly ignored. Sort of like Not really the case. POSIX described a set of behaviours that were Unixlike

Re: Weird error in Ffx3

2008-07-25 Thread stan
Craig White wrote: I just closed all running copies of Firefox and restarted and that seemed to clear things up for me. Craig That didn't work for me. First thing I tried. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > James> They'd have to spoof several things at once to keep it from being > obvious but you are right, the whois result will give names that you > have to look up somehow. Go for the gusto. Spoof the nameservers. Why screw around? -wolfgang -- Wolfgan

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:02:57 -0700, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I understand the issue. The issue is one of being able to poison the DNS > app on the DNS server. There's not really much the casual user can do, aside > from switching to another DNS/IP address that's safe. But the rub

RE: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Björn Persson
bruce wrote: > while what you say makes sense... the vast majority of people pop up their > favorite browser, and go to a site.. there's no way these guys (my mother > included) are going to get into the esoteric details of what goes on behind > the scenes for the browser/dns/certificates/etc... T

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread g
Craig White wrote: leap to conclusions do we? only when information is left out. 1 - it's not only with Firefox...problem originally surfaced printing you were not elicit of evolution. 2 - why on earth would you think that this problem doesn't show up on in my curiousness of problem i

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Alan Cox wrote: Yes, there was some version of the Posix standard in that time frame. It was just incomplete and described some mythical system that matched no existing BSD or SysV flavor, so it was mostly ignored. Sort of like Not really the case. POSIX described a set of behaviours that w

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Cox
> Except that when they were written, no system exactly matched what they > specified so you couldn't rely on them to work although they might have > been useful to point fingers at the non-complying implementations. Very much untrue. If you stuck to what POSIX guaranteed then you got very porta

Re: Network printer setup

2008-07-25 Thread max
Vincent Onelli wrote: Hi there all, Is there some detailed guide line on haw to setup a printer? I am new on Linux and most of the entry I do not even know what it means. I would very much appreciate if some one can give me a detailed guideline on what to enter on various setup phase, because ev

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread Mike
Stuart Sears sjsears.com> writes: > if you insist on putting such things in /opt, just make sure you label > the directories/files correctly. > > to be certain you do, examine the labels on a normal mailspool with ls -Z > > here: > > ls -Za /var/spool/mail OK I now have things running sweetly

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:56 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > leap to conclusions do we? > > only when information is left out. > > > 1 - it's not only with Firefox...problem originally surfaced printing > > you were not elicit of evolution. > > > 2 - why on earth would you think that

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 13:40:49 -0500, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Kosin wrote: > > The only real delay when adding something new is getting the registered > servers for a domain into the root servers. These should be the ones Generally you mean the appropiate TLD serve

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 20:01 +, Mike wrote: > Thanks for all your help. By the way I think that generating some traffic > on this list concerning SELinux may also help other users think about > making things work rather than switching off SELinux as may have done in the > past. no doubt -

a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy (was: Re: that old GNU/Linux argument)

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know, the purpose of a kernel is to abstract the hardware layer > from the userspace software (this is of course an oversimplification, but I > believe it is sufficient for making the parallel). Yup. In fact, there are s

I've corrupted my KDE session ! How do I fix it ?

2008-07-25 Thread linux guy
I accidentally ran my computer out of hard drive room. I'm running F9/ KDE4. Everything froze. I couldn't do anything with that session, so I started a new console session (ctrl-alt-F6) and did a "shutdown -r now". The computer rebooted. I logged into a console. I deleted the offending file,

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: The only real delay when adding something new is getting the registered servers for a domain into the root servers. These should be the ones Generally you mean the appropiate TLD servers as most newly registered domains don't go into the root servers. I guess thin

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 24, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The GPLv3 is slanted against certain uses. You haven't provided any evidence of that, in spite of my request. So I'll go ahead and provide a rebuttal for both cases you alluded to with an ambiguous term that was used by GPLv3 opponents to at

How do I start a new X session in KDE4 ?

2008-07-25 Thread linux guy
How do I start a new session in KDE4 ? I've tried starting from "Switch User", but that doesn't seem to work. Do I have to edit an X file first to allow more sessions to be made ? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 25, 2008, "ksh shrm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is philosophical, spread ur technical knowledge. Do you have any reason to believe that technical knowledge is more important for society than philosophical knowledge? Nevermind that the subthread you entered was about legal knowledge

Re: I've corrupted my KDE session ! How do I fix it ?

2008-07-25 Thread linuxguy
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:20 -0600, linux guy wrote: > I accidentally ran my computer out of hard drive room. I'm running > F9/ KDE4. Everything froze. I couldn't do anything with that > session, so I started a new console session (ctrl-alt-F6) and did a > "shutdown -r now". > > The computer reb

Re: I've corrupted my KDE session ! How do I fix it ?

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:20 -0600, linux guy wrote: > I accidentally ran my computer out of hard drive room. I'm running > F9/ KDE4. Everything froze. I couldn't do anything with that > session, so I started a new console session (ctrl-alt-F6) and did a > "shutdown -r now". > > The computer reb

Re: PAE kernel and 4GB of memory

2008-07-25 Thread Roger Heflin
Howard Wilkinson wrote: Hmmm, I was afraid that this would be the answer! So the "definitive" answer is there is not one :-( Given that some of the BIOS comes from ad-on cards and this is going to affect each machine differently, then can the resulting map be different with different cards, o

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread Mike
max gmail.com> writes: > File Context problems. > If you want to move files to directories that the current policy does > not know about you should use the semanage command to tell the system > what to label these files. > > # semanage fcontext -a -t httpd_sys_script_exec_t '/myweb/cg

Re: SElinux concerning symlink? mail

2008-07-25 Thread Mike
Mike gmail.com> writes: > I have an fstab entry > /opt/Local/spool/mail /var/spool/mail ext3 0 0 That was a typo - the line does have the "bind" in it /opt/Local/spool/mail /var/spool/mail ext3 bind 0 0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redha

Install error with Fedora 9

2008-07-25 Thread kevin kempter
I'm trying to install Fedora 9 on a Dell Optiplex box, after the 'starting anaconda' message I get this: ValueError: Invalid object path 'org/freedestop/Hal/devices/ storage_model_SAMSUNG_HD080HJ/' : ends with '/' and is not just '/' install exited abnormally [1/1] Any thoughts? Thanks in

Re: How do I start a new X session in KDE4 ?

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 14:54 -0600, linux guy wrote: > How do I start a new session in KDE4 ? > > I've tried starting from "Switch User", but that doesn't seem to work. > Do I have to edit an X file first to allow more sessions to be made ? Switch User works in pre 4.1 versions of KDE (available

Re: Install error with Fedora 9

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:40 -0600, kevin kempter wrote: > I'm trying to install Fedora 9 on a Dell Optiplex box, after the > 'starting anaconda' message I get this: > > ValueError: Invalid object path 'org/freedestop/Hal/devices/ > storage_model_SAMSUNG_HD080HJ/' : ends with '/' and is not just

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-25 Thread John Cornelius
I fail to see the value of this line of discussion in this forum even though the points are provocative to say the least. While I could wax eloquently on either side of the argument and even tilt a few windmills of my own I have the impression that the whole point of the discussion is to have

Problem with Fedora on Live USB

2008-07-25 Thread ksh shrm
I tried to install fedora 9 on my SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 GB Pen but I got following errors in error file. [creator:547] Exception while fetching UUID: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable [creator:502] Problem determining free space: (21, 'GetDiskFreeSpace', 'The device is not ready.') [gui:404]

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-25 Thread John Cornelius
Bruno Wolff III wrote: --snip- Generally you mean the appropiate TLD servers as most newly registered domains don't go into the root servers. Actually, I believe that they do but all that they do is provide a pointer to the appropriate name server for the domain. Perhaps that's wh

Re: Install error with Fedora 9

2008-07-25 Thread kevin kempter
Tried it, same error. On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:40 -0600, kevin kempter wrote: I'm trying to install Fedora 9 on a Dell Optiplex box, after the 'starting anaconda' message I get this: ValueError: Invalid object path 'org/freedestop/Hal/devices/

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Germán Racca
I'm using KDE 4.0.5. How can I install KDE 4.0.99 in a separate place in F9? I mean, I don't want to override or upgrade KDE 4.0.5, I just whant to have the option to choose between KDE 4.0.5, KDE 4.0.99, GNOME, etc... Thanks, German. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Install error with Fedora 9

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 16:18 -0600, kevin kempter wrote: > Tried it, same error. > > > > On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:40 -0600, kevin kempter wrote: > >> I'm trying to install Fedora 9 on a Dell Optiplex box, after the > >> 'starting anaconda' me

Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 19:27 -0300, Germán Racca wrote: > I'm using KDE 4.0.5. > How can I install KDE 4.0.99 in a separate place in F9? > I mean, I don't want to override or upgrade KDE 4.0.5, I just whant to > have the option to choose between KDE 4.0.5, KDE 4.0.99, GNOME, etc... > Thanks, yo

How stable is OpenJDK for real work?

2008-07-25 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, I work with Java development, and I work at home quite a lot. I am currently using Sun's 1.6.0u7 x86_64 JDK and it's working fine with Eclipse 3.4 on my F9, but I was willing to give OpenJDK a try. However, even though it passed the JCK test suite, there might still be some ground to cover, an

Re: Problem with Fedora on Live USB

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
ksh shrm wrote: I tried to install fedora 9 on my SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 GB Pen but I got following errors in error file. [creator:547] Exception while fetching UUID: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable [creator:502] Problem determining free space: (21, 'GetDiskFreeSpace', 'The device is no

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-25 Thread Bjoern Schiessle
Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Who did that port?? Linus and his team? > > Most certainly. I can't quite picture the GNU project putting > resources into the early development of GNU+Linux to make the > combination usable. Linux was not perceived as a relevant kernel for > the GNU

Re: SElinux concerning symlink?

2008-07-25 Thread max bianco
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 20:01 +, Mike wrote: > >> Thanks for all your help. By the way I think that generating some traffic >> on this list concerning SELinux may also help other users think about >> making things work rath

Re: Install error with Fedora 9

2008-07-25 Thread stan
kevin kempter wrote: Tried it, same error. On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 15:40 -0600, kevin kempter wrote: I'm trying to install Fedora 9 on a Dell Optiplex box, after the 'starting anaconda' message I get this: ValueError: Invalid object path 'org/f

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