Re: Fixing the kernel for intel laptops

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2010/1/1 Paul p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk: Hi, I'm trying to get my Intel graphics driven laptop up and running again (see BZ 523646 for details of the problem) and am trying to rebuild the kernel using the latest from kernel.org and the fedora srpm (install srpm, copy the kernel, run the

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/31/2009 07:11 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2009/12/29 Michael Schwendtmschwe...@gmail.com: What's wrong with ABRT? Originally, with stock F-12, I had received a couple of good backtraces in bugzilla. Incredibly useful. A wonderful improvement over F-11 and older. And later? - Recently,

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/29/2009 09:40 PM, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Michael Schwendtmschwe...@gmail.comwrote: Originally, with stock F-12, I had received a couple of good backtraces in bugzilla. , and then it's quite often unreliable in delivering bug reports or making it

Re: installing 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system (nouveau issue?)

2010-01-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
(warning: added cross posting to fedora-devel) Ramesh.R wrote: You can use 32 bit OS in 64 bit processor. 32 bit address bus will use 64 bit. MSB 32 bits will be idle.. But for the case, 64 bit OS in a 32 bit processor is not possible by theory. No one is talking about that. You are not

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri wrote: ABRT 1.0.2 should fix the problems with installing the debug packages, the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled repositories is down - then the yum fails to download debuginfo even if it's in working directory and there is

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled repositories is down - then the yum fails to download debuginfo even if it's in working directory and there is not much ABRT can do about this. Which YUM bug # is it? Could you

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 11:53 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: [...] ABRT 1.0.2 should fix the problems with installing the debug packages, Does this mean ABRT 1.0.2 installs those missing debuginfo packages automatically and also _removes_ them after the bug was committed? I'm not really familiar

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled repositories is down - then the yum fails to download debuginfo even if it's in working directory

Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-02 Thread Paul
Hi, You can't expect everyone to change their software design to work for Fedora, even if it has disadvantages. We do expect that, sorry. Bundling libraries is not a solution, fixing the library not to break its ABI/API every couple days is. Here I have to agree with you Kevin.

rawhide report: 20100102 changes

2010-01-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jan 2 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libefilterbar.so.0 cduce-0.5.3-3.fc13.i686

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:39:07 +0100, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote: When the debuginfo package of a particular binary is installed, then the symbols are loaded whenever the binary is loaded or are the symbols only considered by tools like gdb and so on? The latter. Moreover ABRT does not

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:34:47 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled repositories is down - then the yum fails

Re: ABRT considered painful

2010-01-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:34:47 +0100, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jan Kratochvil jan.kratoch...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:53:28 +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: the only problem I know about is when some of the enabled

Looking for pointers how to set up lzma stream using xz-devel

2010-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am working on getting squashfs-tools 4.1 in rawhide. It has wrapper functions that are set up to use streaming compression/uncompression from the LZMA SDK 4.65 library. Currently the LZMA SDK 4.32 library is in Fedora, but is no longer supported upstream and is not compatible with 4.65. I

Packaging problem with %find_lang

2010-01-02 Thread Paul
Hi, Packaging up monodevelop-boo and I've hit a problem with find_lang which I can't figure out as everything seems fine! I have the %find_lang %{name} in the %install section where name = monodevelop-boo (which is the correct name for the translation files). When the spec file reaches this

Re: Packaging problem with %find_lang

2010-01-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 01:22 +, Paul wrote: The build is producing the following mkdir -p /home/paul/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/monodevelop-boo-2.2-1.fc13.i386/usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/BooBinding/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/ cp '../build/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/monodevelop-boo.mo'

CPU hotplug

2010-01-02 Thread Sankar
Currently the cpu hotplug (bringing the cpu to online/offline state) operations are serialized. I was trying to check the possibilities if certain things can be done in parallel here. (like if tried to bring down two processors at the same moment) In the cpu offline path, a call is made to

Re: Postfix, No SMTP AUTH when TLS is enabled

2010-01-02 Thread froinds J
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Raman Gupta rocketra...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 01/01/2010 11:41 PM, froinds J wrote: Hello, I'm having a problem with postfix in F12. I used to have my email server setup with F10. My setup had TLS enabled (self signed certs) with SASL using

Re: Postfix, No SMTP AUTH when TLS is enabled

2010-01-02 Thread Raman Gupta
On 01/02/2010 02:58 AM, froinds J wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Raman Gupta rocketra...@fastmail.fm mailto:rocketra...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 01/01/2010 11:41 PM, froinds J wrote: Hello, I'm having a problem with postfix in F12. I used to have my email

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 20:26 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: Has anyone looked into openSUSE's brilliant integration of Firefox into KDE4? Is this something that interests the Fedora community? Status: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration; Code:

Re: F12: KDE and PulseAudio latest update

2010-01-02 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 01/01/2010 06:57 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Terry Barnaby wrote: On 01/01/2010 05:34 PM, Jud Craft wrote: How to I get Skype to use my USB webcams mic ? GNOME should allow you to choose which device for speaker input. Doesn't the webcam mike show up under Sound Properties (right click on

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 20:20 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Clearly we have different needs. I've never needed to do any of those things without stopping the system. In fact the adding space thing is probably what looks most attractive, but I'm paranoid about disk failure so I can't see

Re: F12: KDE and PulseAudio latest update

2010-01-02 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: On 01/01/2010 06:57 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Terry Barnaby wrote: On 01/01/2010 05:34 PM, Jud Craft wrote: How to I get Skype to use my USB webcams mic ? GNOME should allow you to choose which device for speaker

Re: F12/Subversion/httpd -- PROPFIND access denied [Solved]

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 02:20 -0500, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: The answer: mod_evasive (mod_evasive20.so in my case). The evasive module is designed to stop denial of service attacks. You have to wonder about that... (about it being designed to stop them, instead of create one). It doesn't

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 02/01/10 07:27, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 13:33:24 -0600, --snipped-- I don't think you want to do this based on Fedora. The rate of change is very high. Have you looked at Ubuntu LTS distros to see how those would work for you intended market? CentOS may also be

Re: list server got slower ?

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 11:16 +, Mike Cloaked wrote: All very well - but the fact remains that for a user like me the list is the primary method of discussion about Fedora issues, fixes, workarounds etc. and I would like to see a timely server response - certainly it did not used to be like

Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
Mail Lists: I'd suggest something like: Fedora Users Tony Nelson: Too terse to guide new signups away from the developers' list. The currentname is wordy and wraps too often. And that wrapping has been known to cause problems with some clients, in the past. One way or another (e.g. it's

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 20:10:37 +1030, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: The only advantage I found for using LVM on my laptop was encryption. I could have the encompassing LVM volume encrypted, and as many partitions as I liked, and only have to unlock the outer container. Using

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 20:10 +1030, Tim wrote: If you're the sort that uses one huge partition for everything (and that does seem to be the recommendation, these days), *and* you never intend to add a second drive, then LVM is pointless to you. I keep /, /boot and /home on separate partitions

Re: Micophone is not working in fedora 12 x86_64

2010-01-02 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Jatin K ssh.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all I'm using Dell Vostro 1520 with fedora 12 x86_64 kernel is 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 , all is working fine but not the microphone ( internal ) these[1 ,2 ] are the output of commands which I think can be helpful

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2010-01-02 Thread Tim
Rex Dieter: It goes both ways. For example, Gnome doesn't support the GenericName part of the desktop-spec, whereas KDE in general doesn't offer Comment keys. BeartoothHOS: I have no idea what that jargon refers to. If you look at various something-or-other.desktop files, you can get a

Re: Need usb troubleshoting tool

2010-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 January 2010, g wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Do we have a usb monitoring tool that can detect and name the processes that are apparently fighting over a device plugged into a semi remote usb hub, a 7 port Alps gizmo plugged into one of the mobo ports? see reply to 'subject: nut 0

Re: Nut 0 vs F10 winner

2010-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 January 2010, g wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I am trying to make nut work, in this case with the usbhid-ups driver for a Belkin UPS. i use apc ups exclusively and it is all i recommend. i did try nut when it first came out, but i went back to apcupsd. Something is

Re: installing 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system (nouveau issue?)

2010-01-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
(warning: added cross posting to fedora-devel) Ramesh.R wrote: You can use 32 bit OS in 64 bit processor. 32 bit address bus will use 64 bit. MSB 32 bits will be idle.. But for the case, 64 bit OS in a 32 bit processor is not possible by theory. No one is talking about that. You are not

GDM resolution.

2010-01-02 Thread Grzegorz Witkowski
Hi, I have got a problem with GDM resolution. It looks GDM uses a very low resolution. Once I log into Gnome, the resolution is back to normal (1440x900 set by xrandr). I can see there are setting for GDM in gconf-editor. Is there anyway to set the resolution there or should this be set somewhere

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 01:27 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 13:33:24 -0600, The hurdle is that Linux usage is very foreign to the average consumer and SMB. Linux is an entirely different system to navigate and administrate. The layout, description and deployment of

Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-02 Thread Paolo Galtieri
Anyone know of a program to read dicom files on Linux? I tried both cinepaint and gimp which claim to support dicom files, but cinepaint crashes and gimp says Procedure 'file-dicom-load' returned no return values Any help is appreciated. Paolo -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: F12/Subversion/httpd -- PROPFIND access denied [Solved]

2010-01-02 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
On 01/02/2010 05:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 02:20 -0500, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: The answer: mod_evasive (mod_evasive20.so in my case). The evasive module is designed to stop denial of service attacks. You have to wonder about that... (about it being designed to stop

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread John Aldrich
On Friday 01 January 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 19:31:07 BeartoothHOS wrote: I know Anaconda offers an option to *hide* LVM, but I don't recall any choice to eschew it entirely. Am I just having a memory lapse? Ehmm, during the installation, at some point

Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-02 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Paolo Galtieri pgalti...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files on Linux? I tried both cinepaint and gimp which claim to support dicom files, but cinepaint crashes and gimp says Procedure 'file-dicom-load' returned no return values Any

Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-02 Thread Paolo Galtieri
The CD came with its own image display software which runs on Windows. However the software locks up when I run it on Windows. When I try your suggestion I get: display: magick/list.c:485: GetFirstImageInList: Assertion `images-signature == 0xabacadabUL' failed. Aborted (core dumped) running

RE: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Robert E. Martin, VCM Network
Thanks for the response. Robert E. Martin, President CEO 1325 E. 52nd Street Chicago, IL 60615 Phone: (312) 324-0049 Email: rob...@vcmnetwork.com Website: www.vcmnetwork.com -Original Message- From: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) [mailto:frankl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010

Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-02 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Paolo Galtieri pgalti...@gmail.com wrote: The CD came with its own image display software which runs on Windows. However the software locks up when I run it on Windows. When I try your suggestion I get: display: magick/list.c:485: GetFirstImageInList:

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Jim
On 01/02/2010 01:32 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 01/01/2010 12:58 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: VLC DVDPlayback I have libdvdcss already installed. And I should be telling you that this is a X86_64 box. VLC and libdvdcss

Re: reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Joel Rees wrote: yum provides libfreebl3.so tells me that nss-softokn-freebl is installed. Trying an erase to re-install it tells me that most of the OS and most of the apps seem to be dependent on it, one way or another. Hmm. Bypass yum. rpm -V nss-softokn-freebl or/and rpm -Uhv

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 05:09:21 -0700, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: Actually, I found these to be rather easy to handle when I set up my own repositories using mrepo and each computer was installed via kickstart which configured it to use the local repo(s) which also included

Re: Need usb troubleshoting tool

2010-01-02 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: Thanks, I hadn't tried that exact strategy yet, duh... However, nothing that looks applicable seems to appear. in meantime of my reply post and getting back into f-12, i opened yumex and ran a filter of 'monitor' to see what was there. none of which stated specifically

Re: Nut 0 vs F10 winner

2010-01-02 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: Yes, we're almost on the same page now. ;-) ok. what i just sent in reply to 'subject: Need usb troubleshoting tool' should get us even closer. this is fun of working to different threads of near same topic from same person. what is more fun is similar topics from 2

Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 02.01.2010, 09:12 -0400 schrieb Paolo Galtieri: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files on Linux? http://aeskulap.nongnu.org http://www.orcero.org/irbis/kradview/index.html http://www.sph.sc.edu/comd/rorden/dicom.html#links Regards, Christoph -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread Beartooth Comcast
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 19:31:07 BeartoothHOS wrote: I know Anaconda offers an option to *hide* LVM, but I don't recall any choice to eschew it entirely. Am I just having a memory lapse? Ehmm, during the installation, at some point

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au: Is there a description of what that actually means?  A page of statuses gives no clue, but the name sounds like someone's trying to copy the Microsoft lunacy of integrating MSIE into the desktop. Firefox is GTK based which means it integrates into

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mail Lists lists at sapience.com writes: Actually chrome is way faster, more secure and takes way way less memory - I suspect firefox usage will slowly tail off much like netscape did in the past - as chrome takes over .. it is so so much better ... even in its beta form. I'd focus

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/02/2010 12:33 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: It time I agree that it does look as though Chrome may well win - if the Firefox developers don't pay attention to the competition - and gecko is not the way forward - webkit is! Agreed - and being native clean c++ code instead of an

RE: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Robert E. Martin, VCM Network
I am somewhat confused. I thought that as an open sourced OS, it was a free license, which included the applications in the repositories. What am I missing? Robert E. Martin, President CEO 1325 E. 52nd Street Chicago, IL 60615 Phone: (312) 324-0049 Email: rob...@vcmnetwork.com Website:

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 02 January 2010 16:58:08 Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/2 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au: Is there a description of what that actually means? A page of statuses gives no clue, but the name sounds like someone's trying to copy the Microsoft lunacy of integrating MSIE into the

Re: screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-02 Thread jackson byers
jackson byers wrote $ uname -r 2.6.30.9-102.fc11.i686.PAE In my system, the screensaver (blanking the screen) seems to be working as expected. But, I am also experiencing occasional dpms-like suspend blanking, (I am sure it is suspend and not standby) which I don't want, and

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Jim, On Saturday 02 January 2010 07:54 AM, Jim wrote: both VLC and libdvdcss was installed with Yum. I think it would be better if you could provide us with more information. Try to run vlc from a terminal, try with other media players. Look in dmesg for clues when you insert a DVD,

Re: screensaver vs dpms

2010-01-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:25:00 -0800 jackson byers wrote: Do you have any more info as to just how in your case xset dpms was fighting with gnome power manager? As near as I can tell the gnome power manager and gnome screensaver implement some kind of gnome specific replacement for the low level

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 03 January 2010 00:12:03 Robert E. Martin, VCM Network wrote: I am somewhat confused. I thought that as an open sourced OS, it was a free license, which included the applications in the repositories. What am I missing? You are missing the distinction between official Fedora

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: [snip] How did you install VLC?  If you didn't use yum or an equivalent package manager, you may not have gotten the dependent libraries, etc.  My new, but fully updated F12 set up didn't have all the necessary dependencies when I

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 18:12:03 -0600, Robert E. Martin, VCM Network rob...@vcmnetwork.com wrote: I am somewhat confused. I thought that as an open sourced OS, it was a free license, which included the applications in the repositories. What am I missing? Some things are supported by free

whence RPCBIND_ARGS?

2010-01-02 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i'm tracing the execution of rpcbind on my f12 system, and in the common code, i read: prog=rpcbind [ -f /etc/sysconfig/$prog ] . /etc/sysconfig/$prog while in the start() function, there is: daemon $prog $RPCBIND_ARGS $1 i'm curious about this since: 1) there's no apparent

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/02/2010 02:19 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: missing --- no playing of .mp3 files and divx movies, among other things. This extra functionality can be enabled by installing software from third party repositories, such as rpmfusion and livna. But that also means that legality and licensing

Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora

2010-01-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:48:43 -0500 Randy Yates ya...@ieee.org wrote: Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for asking fedora questions on #fedora? ...snip... I suggest some possible approaches for you: - If someone is upsetting you or not providing the info you

Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All; I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Jim
On 01/02/2010 01:42 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Jim, On Saturday 02 January 2010 07:54 AM, Jim wrote: both VLC and libdvdcss was installed with Yum. I think it would be better if you could provide us with more information. Try to run vlc from a terminal, try with other media players. Look in

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Jim
On 01/02/2010 02:22 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Jimmickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: [snip] How did you install VLC? If you didn't use yum or an equivalent package manager, you may not have gotten the dependent libraries, etc. My new, but fully updated F12

Re: Nut 0 vs F10 winner

2010-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 January 2010, g wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Yes, we're almost on the same page now. ;-) ok. what i just sent in reply to 'subject: Need usb troubleshoting tool' should get us even closer. this is fun of working to different threads of near same topic from same person. Sorry

Re: Need usb troubleshoting tool

2010-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 January 2010, g wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Thanks, I hadn't tried that exact strategy yet, duh... However, nothing that looks applicable seems to appear. in meantime of my reply post and getting back into f-12, i opened yumex and ran a filter of 'monitor' to see what was there.

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/02/2010 03:06 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance I used to host my own email on an old Fedora server. I've since moved

fedorafaq?

2010-01-02 Thread Dave Stevens
anybody know what happened to fedorafaq.org? Still showing F10 as their current version. Dave -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Kevin Kempter kev...@consistentstate.com wrote: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. With that small number of users, you'd fit in the free version of Google Domains. You can either read

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 14:06 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any particular reason why you don't just set up your own mailserver? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Aaron Gray
2010/1/2 Kevin Kempter kev...@consistentstate.com: Hi All; I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any suggestions? Google mail, it can work with your own domain name :-

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Sam Sharpe
2010/1/2 Kevin Kempter kev...@consistentstate.com: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any suggestions? If you want to pay for Support, then something like here:

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 14:06 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any particular reason why you don't just set up your

Re: fedorafaq?

2010-01-02 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: anybody know what happened to fedorafaq.org? Still showing F10 as their current version. Dave -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.  Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing

Re: Codecs for VLC

2010-01-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Saturday 02 January 2010 01:23 PM, Jim wrote: On 01/02/2010 02:22 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: Okay. Now's the time for more details. What kind of DVD videos are you trying to play: commercial, private, off brand, foreign, pirated, etc.? What happens, shows on the monitor, etc. when you insert

random lockups when using Firefox

2010-01-02 Thread Julian C. Dunn
Hi, I have a F12 box that periodically locks up solid when visiting certain Flash-based sites in Firefox. There are usually no odd messages found in /var/log/messages to indicate what went wrong, except a couple of days ago, after a crash, I found this: Dec 29 13:01:50 jupiter kernel:

Re: Email Hosting Recommendations?

2010-01-02 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/02/2010 04:00 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 14:06 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: I'm looking for a good email hosting solution for 5-10 users. Were mostly Linux Desktop users with a few Mac's. Any particular reason why you don't just set up your own mailserver? I used

Re: whence RPCBIND_ARGS?

2010-01-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 02Jan2010 14:47, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: | i'm tracing the execution of rpcbind on my f12 system, and in the | common code, i read: | | prog=rpcbind | [ -f /etc/sysconfig/$prog ] . /etc/sysconfig/$prog | | while in the start() function, there is: | | daemon $prog

Fedora 11/12 kernels as xen domU

2010-01-02 Thread Norman Gaywood
Is anyone having any stability with the fedora kernels running as a Xen DomU. Dom0 is a Centos 5.4 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5xen kernel. These fedora kernels seem to lockup (processes get stuck in D state) whenever put under any load: kernel-2.6.30.10-105.fc11.x86_64 kernel-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread R. G. Newbury
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:10:37 +1030, Tim wrote It makes almost no sense to use it on laptops, where you can only have single drive (adding an outboard drive is quite impractical, you'd end up with a box of bits all cabled together). And you face the difficulty of finding recovery tools for

Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread KC8LDO
I did an awful lot of research using Google on the network file share browsing issue I had with Fedora 11 using Nautilus. The two things that stand out are something the ISP's are doing and also with the NetBIOS name resolution order done by Samba. It seems many ISP's are now using DNS

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/02/2010 06:54 PM, KC8LDO wrote: I did an awful lot of research using Google on the network file share browsing issue I had with Fedora 11 using Nautilus. The two things that Stop using your ISP DNS then the problem goes away. either 1) run your own DNS .. Or simply -

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 11:35 -0500, Beartooth Comcast wrote: I tried to increase the size of /boot any way I could, and never found any way to add a single byte. Note that you can only do that if there's unassigned space after the partition you want to grow. If there isn't, you have to create

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Randy Yates
Mail Lists li...@sapience.com writes: On 01/02/2010 06:54 PM, KC8LDO wrote: I did an awful lot of research using Google on the network file share browsing issue I had with Fedora 11 using Nautilus. The two things that Stop using your ISP DNS then the problem goes away. either

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 18:54:13 -0500, KC8LDO kc8...@arrl.net wrote: Anybody care to comment about this? You can also run your own caching resolver. Less ISPs mess with DNS packets than have bogus resolvers. It not just returning bogus addresses instead of nxdomain, but also bogus TTLs

Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/3 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com: In principle, this is a good idea. In practice, I'm not sure how well it can be done and is it worth the effort. But I welcome the initiative, of course. It has already been done and it was certainly worth the effort. Download the openSUSE KDE Live

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
On 01/02/2010 07:51 PM, Randy Yates wrote: Mail Lists li...@sapience.com writes: On 01/02/2010 06:54 PM, KC8LDO wrote: I did an awful lot of research using Google on the network file share browsing issue I had with Fedora 11 using Nautilus. The two things that Stop using your ISP DNS

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
On 01/02/2010 07:51 PM, Randy Yates wrote: 2) use opendns - its free and the fastest public dns I've been using 4.2.2.4 and 4.2.2.5 for years - is opendns better than that? namebench GUI crashes on me (f12) but command line version runs fine .. it even tells you who is hijacking .. ha ha

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-02 Thread Robert E. Martin, VCM Network
I understand. On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 19:19 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 03 January 2010 00:12:03 Robert E. Martin, VCM Network wrote: I am somewhat confused. I thought that as an open sourced OS, it was a free license, which included the applications in the repositories. What

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread KC8LDO
Bruno; I hear you about DNS sensor ship. I guess that's one way the great firewall of China does it. I have a buddy at work that had a 2 week gig to do in Abu Dhabi some months back. He couldn't use his Skype phone there. They had it filtered out including any of the third party proxy servers

Re: Fedora 11 network share browsing using Natuilus with Samba - Fixed?

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/02/2010 10:53 PM, KC8LDO wrote: Speaking about bogus resolvers, having the ISP's mess with DNS, is just the start of it. Wait until they get around to forcing people to install custom TCP/IP stacks that ONLY will work on their network as a means to monitor and control traffic. There is

xen winxp guest image under fedora11 kvm host

2010-01-02 Thread mantra UNIX
Hi all, I have a xen geust image (winxp) which i would like to use it under fedora 11/12 under kvm. I know that i can use it, it works BUT its dam slow, dose any one know of the tricks that would make it perform the same as it were under the Xen0 -- Regards, mantra - Instrument of Thought --

Re: Where is 2.6.32?

2010-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
john wendel wrote: On 12/31/2009 12:14 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: On 12/31/2009 09:10 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: And leaves you with no Fedora patches and the disk performance regression issues of 2.6.32. Also a tainted kernel which some developers will ignore if you get a

help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
I have an image file with everything I need installed on it. It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it). I intalled f12. What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees the vm ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Where did my penguins go? - THAT'S LIFE

2010-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:15 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Sam Varshavchik wrote: g writes: Richard Shaw wrote: Many thanks to all, but after trying all of the suggested VESA alternatives I've concluded that the nouveau driver sans penguins is vastly superior.

Re: random lockups when using Firefox

2010-01-02 Thread Hiisi
2010/1/3 Julian C. Dunn li...@aquezada.com: Hi, I have a F12 box that periodically locks up solid when visiting certain Flash-based sites in Firefox. There are usually no odd messages found in /var/log/messages to indicate what went wrong, except a couple of days ago, after a crash, I found

Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
On 01/03/2010 12:33 AM, Mail Llists wrote: I have an image file with everything I need installed on it. It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it). I intalled f12. What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees the vm ? I should add I can run the

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