RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread Chris
I agree that every medication has potential serious side effects and I guess we all weigh the risks of giving it to the little guys. With my Big Boy, I know that by now I could get him into the carrier get to vet, but problem comes in when we get there. He absolutely goes wild they have

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 5/4/2005 8:17:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With my Big Boy, I know that by now I could get him into the carrier get to vet, but problem comes in when we get there Wouldn't it be great if all vets made house calls?? Patti

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread Chris
Thing is, all my guys take off the minute they hear the doorbell and dragging BB out from under the bed would be just as tough dragging the others would be harder then putting them in carriers! Ive had cats since I was a kid but back then they were indoor-outdoor. Those cats were never

Re: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday

2005-05-04 Thread Barbara Lowe
Title: Message Yeay! good luck! barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Janice Ventura' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; Niki Dawson ; 'maggie raywood' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent:

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Touch their ears? That just in itself would be a champagne-popping event. Nah, I just have to move my little finger half an inch and they're gone. Outa there. The only means of touching them is indirectly, with a long-handled toy (which Flavia particularly enjoys, tho she tries hard not to show

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Chris--I know exactly what you mean re their terror. It does make you feel really awful for them. kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: I need

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Agree with you in principle--I'm just no longer happy with my housecall vet. Would prefer not to have to use her again, but realize I may have to. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:07 PM To:

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Wow---thanks for the warning Patti. That's serious.Very glad to hear Midnight recovered. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:26 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Yeah, isn't it weird how they make such a fuss at home, but then are as quiet as mice in the vet's office? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:17 AMTo:

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Yes--exactly what I was thinking recently. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier

RE: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Well done Jada to get this far! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:35 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'Janice Ventura'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
Yes, we were lucky. She's still as mean as ever. LOL! Seriously, it was very scary and she was put on a very low dose. This poor girl has so many problems I guess like any drug, it should be used with caution. Who knows, with all her allergies maybe there is an ingredient in that

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message she still has horrendous problems with her ears That's tough. She was lucky/smart to find a good home with you. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:59 AMTo:

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
There is a vet close by that does do house calls. My friend uses her (she lives on a farm and in addition to her large "family", she has 3 feral colonies that we relocated to her farm ). It works very well for her, and she loves the vet. But, I just "love" my vet, have used him for years,

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message What you are saying is sad but so believable. (I don't know why I always assume that vets by and large are compassionate. The same undoubtedly applies to human doctors.) The compassionate ones are probably quite rare. I'm glad you found a goodie. My housecall vet is

Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Wolf, Leah R.
Dear Everybody, This is to let you know that Mikey has joined his brothers in cat heaven. He did not respond to Monday's treatments, so the vet gave him a substantial amount of fluid yesterday evening, which revived him and I became hopeful that the dehydration was his only problem. However,

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 5/4/2005 11:05:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: she still has horrendous problems with her ears That's tough. She was lucky/smart to find a good home with you. Kerry Yeah, just call me a sucker! But I knew she would not be able to have

RE: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Doljan, Joan
Leah, I am so sorry about Mikey. Joan -Original Message- From: Wolf, Leah R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Mikey Dear Everybody, This is to let you know that Mikey has joined his brothers in cat heaven. He

RE: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Leah, I'm very sorry to hear the sad news about Mikey. Please accept my condolences. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R. Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Mikey Dear

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Barbara Lowe
Oh gosh Leah, I am so sorry. poor brave little guy. the only thing that consoles me after losing a furkid is knowing they are running free of pain and problems over the bridge adn just waiting to pounce on us when it is our turn to cross. Hope you will cherish the time you had with him and I;m

RE: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Leah, I am so sorry - it's just too sad - I am crying with you. Please know Leah that his soul is right besides you still - so, please don't be lonely - you may not be able to see him, but he can see you and he feels your love and sorrow - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Leah, I'm so sorry! Our thoughts and tears are with you and Bubba HUGS"Wolf, Leah R." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Everybody,This is to let you know that Mikey has joined his brothers in cat heaven. He did not respond to Monday's treatments, so the vet gave him a substantial amount of

re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread carlas
Leah I am truly sorry for your loss of Mikey May you find confort knowing he has joined his brothers. I am sure they are watching over you now. Carla

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Sleep soft, sweet MIkey - My sincere condolences, Gloria At 10:30 AM 5/4/2005, you wrote: Dear Everybody, This is to let you know that Mikey has joined his brothers in cat heaven. He did not respond to Monday's treatments, so the vet gave him a substantial amount of fluid yesterday evening,

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Leah, I'm sorry to hear that Mikey didn't make it. He is your special angel at the rainbow bridge watching over you and your family until you are together again. Take care. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
My thoughts prayers are with you. Patti

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Nina
Leah, I'm so sorry to hear you lost your Mikey. I hope you can take some comfort in knowing you did everything you could for him and that he had a warm, loving, secure home for the time he was with you. It sounds like the fluids you got him helped him be more comfortable in his last hours.

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread TenHouseCats
we need to remember that a lot of vets don't really like cats. sad, but true. cats are seen as rather disposable we have a 24-hour-emergency clinic here owned by a vet who hates cats and two of the three emergency vets here regularly declare the cat will die before morning unless

RE: Two Door Deluxe Pet Porters for Cats/Kerry

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Mary Christine---FirstCat sounds a real sweetie! Thanks for the housecall site--I did check it out. I think it may still be new? The vet I used isn't on it, or the other one I know of (but haven't used). I'll check into it periodically. I'm very envious of your pool of 6 housecall vets! Kerry

Re: Two Door Deluxe Pet Porters for Cats/Kerry

2005-05-04 Thread Nina
Kerry, Actually, it is progress! They ate in front of you. I'd take it up a notch. When they're hungry, instead of putting it down for them right away, kneel down low with the bowl close to you, toss them a piece at a time and get them used to understanding that the food is coming directly

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread Nina
Ha! Flavia is your target, she's the one that's going to give in first. Nina MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Touch their ears? That just in itself would be a champagne-popping event. Nah, I just have to move my little finger half an inch and they're gone. Outa there. The only means of touching them is

RE: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Wow. That's bad. A vet who hates cats. Agree with all you say about checking the vet out before an emergency--it's true that rational thinking takes a dive. The problem with emergencies, whether you rush to your own clinic during normal hours, or ER, is that you have to take whoever is available.

kitty logjam - carrier anecdote

2005-05-04 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
I got the carrier out to take my sweet orange boy, Henry Lee to the vet (I thought the name sounded southern; he was a starving kitten trying to eat a piece of dirty french fry by a dumpster in Mississippi). He was my first positive kitty. When all of my kitties saw the carrier, they all ran

Re: Two Door Deluxe Pet Porters for Cats/Kerry

2005-05-04 Thread Nina
MC, I've learned so much by quietly and closely observing how kitties interact with each other. Spending time in their space pretending that you're not all that interested in them really works to pique their interest. And of course food is a wonderful motivator! Your line about "making a

Re: Two Door Deluxe Pet Porters for Cats/Kerry

2005-05-04 Thread Barb Moermond
while my Smoky isn't feral, if you're lounging on the couch and he's up in the crow's nest on the living room tree and you ignore him, he'll come to snuggle with you, but if you call him or watch him, he won'tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MC,I've learned so much by quietly and closely observing

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread TenHouseCats
hee hee--we have this gorgeous blue-cream FeLV at the sanctuary. feral as all get out. had to have major surgery for a hernia, so HAD to let us handle her. she got to where she didn't try to attack, and would let us pet her she's back in the FeLV room now, and she still pretends to be

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 5/4/2005 3:43:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of my favorite warped thingsto do is sneak up on her and pet her because i KNOW it's largelyan act. her name, appropriately enough, is sybil. That made me laugh! And brought back "happy"

Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote

2005-05-04 Thread PEC2851
That is too funny! But isn't it something that if you happen to leave a carrier out, they all seem to "fight" to get in it. But when it's time for a vet visit and the carrier comes out, they all disappear! Cats, I'll never figure them out! I think that's why I love them so much...the element

Re: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday

2005-05-04 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Joan. Who decides who is Best In Show? I voted everyday since you posted this and several friends and relatives voted for her also. :) -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread TenHouseCats
i'll have to find one of my favorite photos--a close-up of two cats that is titled, what part of feral don't you get? i have a GREAT feral-transformation story if people want to hear it -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: Mikey

2005-05-04 Thread Terri Brown
Did I miss this? OMG -- I'm so sorry. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Mikey... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site:

Re: Hard to vet

2005-05-04 Thread Terri Brown
Some of you "old timers" will remember Jamie's absolutely hilarious story about what she went through when she tried to fill an amitryptilline. very funny! =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread TenHouseCats
friend is a black, dmh. totally feral when he came into the sanctuary (he's FeLV). before i got there, he got really ill, and had to be force-fed, given fluids, meds, the whole nine yards. they really didn't think he would pull thru after awhile, however, still hissing and spitting, he started

Re: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday

2005-05-04 Thread TatorBunz
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Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote

2005-05-04 Thread Barbara Lowe
exactly! I will bring up the carrier for an upcoming vet visit, leave it open on teh table adn everybody wants to get in there. I swear no matter how much lead time I give it-even hours, they know how to read my footsteps that mean "going to the vet" and it's like they all activate their

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread Barbara Lowe
will someone explain to me why my two half ferals will let me pet them at 6 am when they wake me up in the morning but run if I so much as peek in the same room they're in any other time? AND those rotten furkids. my son's friend came for a visit from college-never saw her in their lives

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread TenHouseCats
because they're CATS, silly! -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892

Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral

2005-05-04 Thread felv
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