My first thought is to try Feliway spray. It helps a lot. Then put Rescue
Remedy in their water. Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban.
He is just trying to claim some space for himself. Can you imagine how
awful and abandoned he feels? How very alone? He doesn't understand
My vet has Dixie Louise on Interferon (1 cc every
other day) and I try to brush her teeth (or use tooth wipes)--notice the word
try. My holistic vet has Dixie on some drops that we hope will keep Dixie
healthy and happy. I don't know where you are located or if you have your
own holistic
We are all under a death sentence from the day we are born. No one knows
when she is going to leave this world. The trick is to enjoy every moment
you have with Samantha. To hold her and love her and give her every treat
she wants and every cuddle she wants. Neither you nor she nor the
Julia,
My prayers are with you Samantha.
Yvonne
I had a kitty named "City Kitty" that had the same type lymphoma...I put her on the chemo, and she lived another 9 months..She responded very good until the blood counts started gettting low, we had to stop the chemo, but she had 5 motnhs of adriamycin IV monthly and was on 20 mg of pred the rest
Hi Kerry,
I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add -
If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes
from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that
may help him adjust and settle in too.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
PS
I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and
sending
Wonderful idea...
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will
They may have given her 3-4 months because of it
already being in the lymph nodes.
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I am not sure why they gave her 3-4 months. That
might be the case, but
mediastinal lymphoma sometimes responds very well to
chemo, and some cats have gone
years in remission
Julia,
Phaewryn gave wonderful suggestions here, and I second
them. The pictures are priceless.
:)
Wendy
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Julia, I'm sad to hear it's such grim news for
Samantha. Ultimately, what you decide
WILL be what is best for you, and what YOU feel is
the right thing to
Onion causes Heinz body anemia in cats. So does a variety of other
things including propylene glycol (which I just found out). Here are a
few links about it:
http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/CLERK/Tarigo/
http://www.monkeymaddness.com/articles/onions.html
--
Belinda
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A cat's normal temperature is between 100.5 and 102.5, so 101 isn't
anything to really worry about.
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Here's a good link for a cat's normal vital signs:
http://www.cathelp-online.com/emergency/vitals.php
--
Belinda
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All I can tell you is my own experience with raw food and my
positive Bailey. I switched all my guys to raw and Bailey my positive
loved it, he really thrived and put on about 2 pounds which we all know
is good for a positive since the first symptom of any problem is
generally loss of
I personally am still not 100% sure about raw food. You get the
argument that this is what cats eat in the wild, well like it or not,
they aren't wild anymore and have under gone changes due to years of
being domesticated.
So, I can only go by my own experience and ours was good, no
PS. On my last post, then again when cats were first domesticated they
were still eating rats and mice for the most part so it hasn't been that
long that they have been getting the canned and dry food we feed them
now. I have heard good arguments for both sides.
--
Belinda
happiness is
Personally, I would leave her be as well. If it was not in the nodes, then
I would say try, but unfortunately, when it is in the nodes, it is most
likely just going to come back. I agree with spending as much time as you
can until it is time to let her go. I feel so sad for you and your
I agree also, especially about the stress on the cat and his need for
attention and space of his own. If it is possible, sometimes it helps to
have the litter boxes separate from each other, so that one cat can more so
have his own box.
Kris
http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com
- Original
Can I ask, why not Pork? Are you in the UK?Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I wouldn't fee any raw PORK... other than that, I doubt the vet's have muchreal scientific basis behind their reluctance to advocate raw diets.PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat
Hey, I just found out about a lady
who "had" to pts her 13 y/o male cat because his urinary tract was blocked and
"they couldn't do anything about it." What do you guys make of this?
Is this possible? Couldn't they have done surgery, at the very
least?
The argument I've heard agaisnt raw food, is not about the nutritional value
of a raw meat diet, it's the fact that poultry produced in the US is not
intended for raw consumption, it's not kept cold enough or thoroughly
screened for parasytes, because producers assume it will be cooked. I
<>Kerry,
However small B's, dwelling space is, she should have a bathroom. Tell
her to make it comfortable for Danny's in there, (the suggestion of a
piece of clothing belonging to his former mistress as bedding is a very
good one). Keep food and water down, (as far away from the litter box
as
Hi, I know I ask you this a lot but I need more
prayers for my babies form you guys..
If you remember I rescued two day old kitten about five
weeks ago..she has been doing great
And also Waku, who was having a difficult time putting
weight.. and she has put some weight and been doing
Most meat that you buy in the grocery is totally frozen when it get to the market so I don't think that is a real issue. Even the locker I buy my meat at, the poultry is frozen solid. I think you need to be smart when feeding your animalany diet. you canalso get just as much if not more bacteria
Most meat that you buy in the grocery is totally frozen when it get to the market so I don't think that is a real issue. Even the locker I buy my meat at, the poultry is frozen solid. I think you need to be smart when feeding your animalany diet. you canalso get just as much if not more bacteria
Most meat that you buy in the grocery is totally frozen when it get to the market so I don't think that is a real issue. Even the locker I buy my meat at, the poultry is frozen solid. I think you need to be smart when feeding your animalany diet. you canalso get just as much if not more bacteria
I will be praying for them...
- Original Message -
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:01 pm
Subject: Need more prayers for my little babies..
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Hi, I know I ask you this a lot... but I need more prayers for my
Hideyo,
Ask as much as you need to...we are all glad to help in any way we
can. I am sending more prayers for you your babies. Hang in
there.
Yvonne
Prayers for you and your little ones
:) :)
Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com
- Original Message -
From:
Hideyo Yamamoto
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:47
PM
Subject: Need more prayers for my little
babies..
Hi, I
What do you think is going around? Those temps are pretty high... Are
you thinking of taking them to the vet? What are you doing for them? Do
you have them on TF? I don't know if it helps or not, but Sally swears
by it. Do you have any interferon in the house? How about some
colostrum? I know
I would have gotten another opinion. Most
blockages can be cleared.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
Additional idea that has worked for me: Spray
Feliway on her hands and clothes before she visits Danny. He will feel so
much more at home with her.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal
One can never ask for too many prayers. Mine
are with you.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From:
Good idea Marylyn. I wonder if the flower essences we were discussing
on the list would help too. I would try the RR, "Emergency" and
"Relationship". She could add them to the water, (use either the RR or
the "Emergency"), or dab a bit on the inside tip of Danny's ears, (if
he doesn't mind her
Would you resend the link? I am interested in
checking these out.
Thanks
If you have men who will exclude any of God's
creatures
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their fellow
man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
Just for the record though - freezing does not kill parasites. This
according to the USDA Safe Food Handling Fact Sheet:
Does Freezing Destroy Bacteria
Parasites?Freezing to 0 °F inactivates any microbes -- bacteria,
yeasts and molds - - present in food. Once thawed, however, these
I would hope none of us would let raw meat lay around, that is not the correct way to feed raw. You can have your thought but I have the proof at home it works.Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Just for the record though - freezing does not kill parasites. This according to the USDA Safe
why thank you - and i'm very glad you've had good results.
In a message dated 6/20/2006 4:12:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would hope none of us would let raw meat lay around, that is not the
correct way to feed raw.
You can have your thought but I have
Julia,
I think you are making the right decision for
Samantha. I want to reiterate asking your local vet
about the depo/dex shots for Samantha to keep her
comfortable as her health fails.
Unfortunately, sometimes money is a deciding factor in
the treatment for our furbabies, which can really
Prayers coming for Bandy. The immunoregulin regimen you wrote about is what I used with cc.tKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi guys, I posted some of Bandy's troubles under the ringworm topic...He really is sick right now...the worst I have seen since all this started last June..I am
Okay, I'm going to throw my 2 cents in here. I've posted it enough for
everyone to know that feeding Gypsy raw food saved her life. I was
also as careful as I could be in selecting meat from a source, (I
bought it at Whole Foods and paid a premium price for it), that told me
it was as free
They're made by a company called Australian Bush Flower Essences. I
ordered Emergency and
another one called Relationship from Earth Spirits, http://www.earthspirits-herbals.com/
a distributor
for them in, I think MA. They also make sprays and creams.
Nina
Marylyn wrote:
Would
The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know how to do
it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to someone that could have
helped, if money wasn't a factor.
Phaewryn
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Pork is very commonly known to carry trichinosis:
http://www.austincc.edu/microbio/2704k/trich.htm
I'm in north america, in Vermont.
Phaewryn
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I've also fed raw in the past...Nature's Variety frozen raw chicken and
turkey patties...just thaw and serve! I never had a problem with anyone
getting sick, etc., but I probably only fed it consistently for 3 or 4
months. One of my boys really dug the stuff and would eat it whenever
it was
Thank you all for sharing your experiences and information on raw food, I
know it is a controversal subject and I am grateful for any additional
information. It seems like everyone who has given it to their kitties had a
good experience. I find it difficult to go against the recommendations
I guess I should say something regarding raw meat. When I have a sick kitty I will entice them with beef. I will boil chicken for them as well. I have boiled pork in the past but they didn't really care for it.
When one is sick I will feed just about anything whether it's cheap canned food or
I would guess there is more to the story...
Like they waited too long to bring the cat to the vet... Kidneys start
to fail
after 24 hours and that causes a chain of down fall...
Or maybe the vet said he couldn't do it for under $50...
Other wise its not that hard to take care of...
Tad
The depo/dex shots, besides making them more comfortable, actually does
shrink lymphoma. The vet who taught me the regimen said that she sometimes saw
cats with lymphoma go 6 months on these shots alone. When my Simon came
out of remission from chemo and was too sick to get more chemo,
I wonder if immuno-regulin can be used with kittens?
Michelle
CoQ10 is supposed to help. Maybe I-R would, I am not sure.
Michelle
In a message dated 6/19/2006 10:40:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My 1st
FeLV+ cat, I have had him 3 years, is healthy and activeexcept that he has
a chronic gum problem.. Antibiotics help
Have you tried the liver shake?
Michelle
Yes. It's the simplest of the formulas, with the fewest ingredients, I
think. It's bright orange. The different formulas are diffferent colors.
Michelle
In a message dated 6/19/2006 9:12:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks
for that, Michelle! I'm willing to
Hi,has anyone here triedthe"freeze dried" catfood? It's raw all dried out, you reconstitute it with water. Doesn't sound too appetizing, but then again, neither do mice. My kittens for dummies book recommends itinstead of raw, to help avoid the parasite risk. I've never tried it, but am
I think a list member, Julie (has anyone heard from her?? :-( ), tried
the freeze dried Nature's Variety with her crew...if I recall, they
didn't think too highly of it (I wish cats were as easy to please in the
food department as dogs...)...but, again, it's just up to the individual
cat!
Did anyone read the post that Elizabeth sent on
testing saliva instead of blood for FeLV? It's below
in case you deleted it. I think it's very
interesting. Not only can they possibly test without
taking blood, but if FeLV is hanging out in the saliva
then it IS possible to pass it along via
Right... I paid for it 30+ years ago and that is when I learned the
economy of paying a little more for good food...
Tad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The surgery can get expensive though, and some vets may not know
how to do it, BUT I would think they could have referred her to
Thank you Nina - no testiness intended. I am not against feeding raw
-and very much foranything that saves lives! I do, however,
want to make informed decisions and this list is a great place to exchange
information and ideas. We weigh the risks and benefitsof
anycourse of treatment we
It's been awhile since I've researched the mechanics of FeLV...but I was
under the impression (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the virus wasn't
constantly being shed in the saliva? Ie. a cat that may have been able
to sequester the virus would not necessarily be shedding it in the
saliva...but
My vet explained that carnivores have a stronger stomach acid.. That's
why they can digest food
without chewing it... Also that will kill the bacteria in raw food...
I guess the risk could be that a sick cat might not have the strong
acid that a healthy cat has...
Tad
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I wish we had NEVER started testing at all at our shelter. The tests are not reliable enough to show who will end up positive or negative after several months. You can't isolate every cat from another at a shelter, so even if they test (like my shelter does) on entrance and euthanize
This only tells me it's not nearly as hard to catch as they try and make people believe. And I still don't think it would be very easy to catch by grooming, I would watch Bailey and joey groom each other and they actually would groom and touch tongues and Joey still never got it!!
Not only
Its probably not that hard to transmit the virus.. I think the key is
with the strength of the immunity of the neg. cat to fight it off...
My vet has said that a number of times people have brought in a dyeing
FeLV+ cat that has been living with other cats and he doesn't remember
any of the
I still don't think it's a lot harder to transmit than most vets
say, Joey's immune system isn't the best, he is an HCM kitty and has
always had problems with reacurring herpes virus problems.
Its probably not that hard to transmit the virus
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats
I meant to say: I still think it's a lot harder to transmit than
most vets say
--
Belinda
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