Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary

2016-05-18 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thanks Kat – I did not realize that….but like you, I was curious :) Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kat Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary Ardy, The email you

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi Lorrie - I believe that is why I was keeping Tigger on an antibiotic - in case he started getting something due to his immune system. I just wish I would have used doxycycline rather than convenia. Amani can clarify a bit perhaps. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats with FelV

2016-05-18 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thank you Lorrie - for the clarification. With Tigger I really hoped he would either become negative or just a carrier and not actively ill after his interferon treatments, but that was not to be. I wish I had started him on Winstrol earlier. But you know, if I had not kept him because of him

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
Oh Marsha, you don't need that counselor anyways. We all understand why you spent money on your animals. We have all done it. No counselor is going to give us the love and emotional peace that an animal does. I would agree that we all need to step back and take and take a look at what is

[Felvtalk] Thank you

2016-05-18 Thread Marsha
I would like to sincerely thank you all who sent condolences on my loss of Brock, and showed so much compassion and support. So many kind words! Brock was my last FeLV+ cat, and now his (and Harley's and Milkdud's) garage domain feels so empty and quiet. The toddler slide I bought for Brock

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
What a complete and utter idiot. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: May-18-16 8:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Marsha
I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on my plate. During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and animals). Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks common sense in some way - some

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread dlgegg
I agree. Someone has to care for them. Would do the same for people, but they won't let an old woman tke in children. Amani Oakley wrote: > Rachel > > I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one where they > put a lamp on the curb to be

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
I am quite ferocious when dealing with the defendants in my cases. No question about it - I am not popular on the other side of the table, but my clients are my biggest fans. However, I am reduced to a little puddle in other situations - especially dealing with defenceless animals.

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
So funny, I am sure we would cry about the lamp together! Whenever we are are watching tv and anyone is crying for any reason at all Harry looks over at me and then rolls his eyes because I am crying too. And I think of you as the strongest one of us all, maybe there is hope for me yet! Sent

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
Rachel I am just like you. I cry at commercials. Did you ever see the one where they put a lamp on the curb to be picked up for garbage? Who ever thought one could cry over the fate of an unloved and abandoned lamp for goodness sake?? My mom used to ask me why I was so insane to keep on taking

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
Thank you Margo, I hope tomorrow is better too. I keep thinking I am coming to terms with the whole thing, but it is just so darn hard. I think about everyone on here who purposely takes on sick babies to try to help them and how wonderful and strong they are. All of those who lost a baby and

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
Ok thank you for sharing that with me, he just came out here on the porch and started playing with a toy so maybe I am over paranoid. I think I will take him in regardless. Remember when I took him at first and she had a hard time hearing his heart and the next time she could hear it fine and

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Margo
I'm sorry, Rachel. Sometimes there are good days, and bad days, so maybe tomorrow will be better. All we can sometimes do is keep them as happy and comfortable as possible, and ease the way. My thoughts are with you. Margo -Original Message- >From: Rachel Dagner

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
Rachel, I don't think it can "fix" cancer but I think it can help the surrounding issues that accompany the cancer. I used it on a 16 year old cat with a huge nasal sarcoma, and it kept her eating, putting a bit of weight on her (she was a tiny fragile little feral cat who had been in our home

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
I wish it could fix cancer. :( Tucker doesn't seem as perky today. Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Lorrie > > The difficulty isn't finding it. It is in getting a prescription. Ardy was > able to find it at a compounding

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
Lorrie The difficulty isn't finding it. It is in getting a prescription. Ardy was able to find it at a compounding pharmacy in Arizona (I think!) and the vet could fill in the prescription online and the pharmacy delivered directly to Ardy. She used a liquid form so I am not familiar with

[Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Lorrie
Amani, I just found the answer to my question in a former post you sent. I am happy to know Winstrol does not compromise the immune system, and now I intend to find some, somewhere, somehow! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
Lorrie I should add that when I got the original tablets, I got them from a vet for a cat who was diagnosed by the vet as having FIP. When I asked the vet what could be done, he basically told me nothing could be done for the cat. He prescribed the Winstrol and told me that it would help with

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 65

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
Bob - I forgot to tell you, if you can't afford the mirtazapine or want to try something else first they suggest Dandelion Root a lot on the kitty holistic site I am on for increasing appetite. You might be able to get it at Walmart or a drug store pretty inexpensively. Make sure you get it in

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Amani Oakley
No it doesn't Lorrie. It is a different kind of steroid, not a corticosteroid. It is an anabolic steroid which literally means building up - it causes an increase in chemical reactions that synthesize molecules into the complex structures of tissue - ie - it builds up muscle, tissue, etc.

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 65

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
Hi Bob, As you know, I am giving my cat several supplements, I mix them all into a little bit of AD (prescription high calorie)cat food, you should be able to get some from your vet without any hassle. You can also use canned pumpkin for the consistency (and cheap) I use a small cheese spread

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 65

2016-05-18 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Ardy et al: Typical of vets...  I went to a new one who was very pleasant and made no suggestion of putting my guy down( suggesting euthanasia is NOT typical of vets around my parts...at least no one that I would go to since I ask a LOT of people before I go)   My guy ( Yogi's) Blood work is

Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

2016-05-18 Thread Lorrie
Does anyone know (Amani probably will) if an anabolic steroid also compromises the cat's immune system as steroid like Prednisolone does? Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Sanctuary

2016-05-18 Thread kat
Ardy,   The email you are referencing was TO Lorrie - it was FROM Amy who said "So far, most of the ones we have taken in have converted after some time."  But like you, I would like to know what her protocol has been to be so successful.   Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats with FelV

2016-05-18 Thread Margo
Lorrie wrote" A positive cat can either convert to negative, or carry the virus all it's life and show no symptoms, or die, usually in their first year." Or it seems that they can test negative, or "convert" to negative and yet still carry the virus in a dormant state, and while they will test

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats with FelV

2016-05-18 Thread Lorrie
Hi Ardy, As you probably know we rescue and have 13 cats at home plus 28 more in our cageless sanctuary. Therefore we've had many cats who have tested positive for FelV. Most were kittens and they were isolated in our isolation rooms, and they seemed so playful and well I couldn't believe they

Re: [Felvtalk] Cats with FelV

2016-05-18 Thread Rachel Dagner
I have read when a cat first contracts the virus there is a chance they can fight it off and will no longer test positive, if it progresses to the I think bone marrow? Then they will not ever get rid of it. There are two tests one for if they have it and one for if they will always have it.