Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-18 Thread Cougar Clan
Can you fix a window perch for her?  A box with screened sides and a  
top that would fit in one of your windows that she could use when the  
weather is right?

On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:

I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild  
animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is  
collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and  
getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most  
people who have cats brought them from the states and have already  
had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The  
speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour  
(about 25 mph.)  I know there are a lot of things she can come  
across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out  
with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she  
occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much!   
She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours.   
I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.


Thanks again for your input and concern.

Melinda and Fuji
On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:

Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6  
foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.   
I used left over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed  
so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet  
door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted  
with plastic milk crates and other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-,  
healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had been a street cat until about age  
3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I  
moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area.  The cost  
was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony  
(who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had  
a safe place to go.


If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come  
into contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death  
too.  If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll  
leave the details to you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but  
to be sure you realize what you may be doing.  Dixie was grown when  
she can into my life.  She was FeLV+ and very alone.  She became a  
garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had  
everything.  I thought about just letting her go but could not do  
that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face  
what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs,  
coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea.


With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.   
Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.



On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:


Hello all,

I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my  
story.  I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young  
kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal  
lymphoma.  The problem is, she doesn't know that she is supposed  
to be sick.  At this time there are no outward signs of illness.   
She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at a time, never  
overnight and always staying close to home.  Now, I try to limit  
her to outside time with close supervision.  However, she has  
started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me.   
I know she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her  
boredom.  She spends the day begging to go out, crying meee  
u, all day long.  She races us to the door and bites at  
our ankles to try to get out.  I'm faced with the decision of  
just letting her go because her quality of life seems to depend  
on it.  She is otherwise quite content.  I am leaning toward  
giving her more outside time and dealing with the consequences.   
Her chances at a long life are very limited anyway and I feel that  
I should try to make her happy.


Am I wrong to feel this way?

Melinda and Fuji

On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

Yes, Natalie.  I have one little lady who is a rehabilitated  
feral.  She raised a litter of kittens down by the creek.  Some  
kind people trapped them and found homes for thekittens, but no  
one wanted mama cat.  She's a lovely brushed coat calico.  She is  
sweet as pie, and Never offers to run out the door.  The look she  
gives is, Been there, done that, don't want it!  She has her  
quirks (who doesn't?) but is a very loving companion.

- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia


I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out  
again.  Use

some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment!
Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral!  I don't  

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-18 Thread Natalie
Before we built our outdoor cat enclosures, I used an old air conditioner
sleeve, which I enclosed with wire hardware cloth (1/4).

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:41 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

Can you fix a window perch for her?  A box with screened sides and a  
top that would fit in one of your windows that she could use when the  
weather is right?
On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:

 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild  
 animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is  
 collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and  
 getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most  
 people who have cats brought them from the states and have already  
 had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The  
 speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour  
 (about 25 mph.)  I know there are a lot of things she can come  
 across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out  
 with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she  
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much!   
 She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours.   
 I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.

 Thanks again for your input and concern.

 Melinda and Fuji
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:

 Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6  
 foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.   
 I used left over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed  
 so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet  
 door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted  
 with plastic milk crates and other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-,  
 healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had been a street cat until about age  
 3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I  
 moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area.  The cost  
 was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony  
 (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had  
 a safe place to go.

 If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come  
 into contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death  
 too.  If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll  
 leave the details to you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but  
 to be sure you realize what you may be doing.  Dixie was grown when  
 she can into my life.  She was FeLV+ and very alone.  She became a  
 garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had  
 everything.  I thought about just letting her go but could not do  
 that to the other cats that depended on me...nor could I face  
 what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs,  
 coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea.

 With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.   
 Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.


 On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:

 Hello all,

 I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my  
 story.  I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young  
 kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal  
 lymphoma.  The problem is, she doesn't know that she is supposed  
 to be sick.  At this time there are no outward signs of illness.   
 She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at a time, never  
 overnight and always staying close to home.  Now, I try to limit  
 her to outside time with close supervision.  However, she has  
 started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me.   
 I know she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her  
 boredom.  She spends the day begging to go out, crying meee  
 u, all day long.  She races us to the door and bites at  
 our ankles to try to get out.  I'm faced with the decision of  
 just letting her go because her quality of life seems to depend  
 on it.  She is otherwise quite content.  I am leaning toward  
 giving her more outside time and dealing with the consequences.   
 Her chances at a long life are very limited anyway and I feel that  
 I should try to make her happy.

 Am I wrong to feel this way?

 Melinda and Fuji

 On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Yes, Natalie.  I have one little lady who is a rehabilitated  
 feral.  She raised a litter of kittens down by the creek.  Some  
 kind people trapped them and found homes for thekittens, but no  
 one wanted mama cat.  She's a lovely brushed coat calico.  She is  
 sweet as pie, and Never offers to run out the door.  The look she  
 gives is, Been there, done that, don't want it!  She has 

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-18 Thread Sharyl
A safer option might be to order Fiji a harness and taking her for walks.  It's 
pretty hard to walk a cat with a collar but a harness is pretty safe.  You;d 
have to put it on her a few times inside 1st so she got used to it.  Then she 
could safely explore the great outdoors.  By the way you don't walk a cat.  
They walk you.  LOL

Mattie, my blind FeLV kitty loved going outside and exploring.  I used a 
harness and one of those retractable leashes.
Sharyl


 On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
  I forgot to add that on our very small base there are
 no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately (
 Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji
 coming across and getting into a confrontation with another
 cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought
 them from the states and have already had them
 vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let
 out.  The speed limit on most of the base is less than
 40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.)  I know there
 are a lot of things she can come across if she goes
 outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her
 as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry
 too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home
 in a couple of hours.  I really am trying to do my best
 to keep her healthy and happy.
  
  Thanks again for your input and concern.
  
  Melinda and Fuji



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-18 Thread Natalie
We adopted a kitten when we lived in Sweden years ago. We walked her on a
leash in a park across the street, and either my husband or I had to walk in
front of her, and Tita would follow.  She loved watching the birds that were
in the aviaries in the park.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

A safer option might be to order Fiji a harness and taking her for walks.
It's pretty hard to walk a cat with a collar but a harness is pretty safe.
You;d have to put it on her a few times inside 1st so she got used to it.
Then she could safely explore the great outdoors.  By the way you don't walk
a cat.  They walk you.  LOL

Mattie, my blind FeLV kitty loved going outside and exploring.  I used a
harness and one of those retractable leashes.
Sharyl


 On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
 
  I forgot to add that on our very small base there are
 no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately (
 Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji
 coming across and getting into a confrontation with another
 cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought
 them from the states and have already had them
 vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let
 out.  The speed limit on most of the base is less than
 40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.)  I know there
 are a lot of things she can come across if she goes
 outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her
 as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry
 too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home
 in a couple of hours.  I really am trying to do my best
 to keep her healthy and happy.
  
  Thanks again for your input and concern.
  
  Melinda and Fuji



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Feline Leukemia

2010-09-18 Thread Melinda Kerr

Thank you for all of your excellent suggestions.  Maybe with a retractable 
leash she might learn to enjoy the harness!

On 19 Sep, 2010,at 01:02 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

We adopted a kitten when we lived in Sweden years ago. We walked her on a
leash in a park across the street, and either my husband or I had to walk in
front of her, and Tita would follow. She loved watching the birds that were
in the aviaries in the park.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

A safer option might be to order Fiji a harness and taking her for walks.
It's pretty hard to walk a cat with a collar but a harness is pretty safe.
You;d have to put it on her a few times inside 1st so she got used to it.
Then she could safely explore the great outdoors. By the way you don't walk
a cat. They walk you. LOL

Mattie, my blind FeLV kitty loved going outside and exploring. I used a
harness and one of those retractable leashes.
Sharyl



On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:

 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are
no wild animals, most strays are caught almost immediately (
Fuji is collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji
coming across and getting into a confrontation with another
cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought
them from the states and have already had them
vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let
out.  The speed limit on most of the base is less than
40 kilometers per hour (about 25 mph.)  I know there
are a lot of things she can come across if she goes
outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her
as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry
too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home
in a couple of hours.  I really am trying to do my best
to keep her healthy and happy.
 
 Thanks again for your input and concern.
 
 Melinda and Fuji






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