Re: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom
Hi Natalie, Unfortunately Siamese are a dime a dozen around here. I used to volunteer for the local breed rescue group and they will only take cats from the public with a sizeable donation and certainly not a feral FELV+ cat. Most rescues around here focus on getting cats out of kill shelters. We are trying, much as I hate it, BFAS. I am checking to see exactly how feral this cat is, but really this group is my last ditch effort. There is a FELV sanctuary in the next town but they have rejected her already. If it becomes necessary, I think it would be kinder to have her PTS at the vet rather than be at the shelter terrified for 3 day stray hold and then killed anyway. On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Try looking for a specific breed rescue group in your area or offer to get her to a nearby one..Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:54 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom Still have this beautiful Siamese mom who is FELV+. From what I gather she is feral and that will be a death sentence if she is taken to the shelter. Anyone got any ideas on this? I am open to suggestions. I cannot take her as i have an immune suppressed cat here. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tilton Please add to the CLS :*(
Sherrywe'll light candles for Benji and Tilta Whirl tonight. Bless you and the other kind volunteers who make the lives of these precious babies so much better with their love and care. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:27 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Tilton Please add to the CLS :*( What can I say about this beautiful soulTilton(Tilta whirl as I lovingly called him) was a beautiful crooked head fluffy orange boy that won my heart the SECOND I met him!!! I fought with myself about adopting him once I got back from vacation,but decided against it...too much going on right now for a newbie in my house. But one of our AWESOME volunteers decided to take him home cause he was starting to fail in health. She wanted to give him a chance at a home for whatever time she could...well today he lost his battlehe and Marcia were VERY lucky to of had each other,even for just a short time. Everybody hug your babies for me tonight. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 6145 (20110523) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws I cannot even begin to think about soft paws for my pride. I don't think I would come out of it alive. We do not like anything put on us. Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions! Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2011, at 6:27 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: And the bigger the better. Especially if they can get in safely and have at it. On May 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Natalie wrote: Any cardboard box is also great - let them destroy them, toss them,. get them new ones...sprinkle catnip inside! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Copper and Thomas like sheets (large) of Styrofoam..I have some on the floor from packaging and a couple of styrofoam insulation boards (8 foot +) leaning against a wall in the garage. A little messy but that is what vacs and brooms are for. On May 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Natalie wrote: I have known many people who used SoftPaws - it all depends on the cat and one's perseveranceno two cats are the same! The best thing to do is to trim the claws regularly and provide many scratching surfaces - some cats like vertical and others prefer horizontal. Cats usually like to scratch something after waking up and/or getting off the litter box, that's why it's a good idea to have those available near those sources. If they pick on a corner of a sofa, cover with double-sided sticky tape and place a good scratch post next to it until the cat gets used to it. Not all scratch posts are created equally! Carpet covered ones send the wrong message to cats.vertical or horizontal. The best ones are real wood, next best are covered with sisal twine woven material, and then just plain sisal rope. In a multiple-cat household, the last is the least effective because those twines are scratched apart and have to be recovered (can be done!) Using catnip on scratch posts to retrain is a good idea - and pulling a toy up the scratch post works really well! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Has anyone tried Soft Paws for their cats? I have read a few unfavorable reviews on Amazon.com, but even more favorable ones. My cats are starting to damage the persian rugs and leather carpet. My husband is threatening bodily harm if they don't stop it! Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Transmission - thanks for replies
That's heart breaking. But it is good to know you cared for him and he had some love and joy in his life. ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Transmission - thanks for replies What a wonderful thought. Dixie was very lucky to meet you. I blamed myself for the first one I lost. He was a beautiful, fluffy pale tiger who never liked to have his rear touched. We thought he had kidney stones and the last time he went to the vet, he kept hm over night and stayed up with him until midnight. He appeared to be okay , but the next morning he was dead. The vet did an autopsy because he couldn't understand what he had done wrong. He discovered adhesions everywhere. The kind that happen when a cat is kicked very hard. They had closed off the urethra. Atleast he had 1 year of love and good care. He always liked my father's sweet rolls and would pat his knee, asking for a bite. When that did not work, he would slap hard and meow very loud. Father thought that was funny and then would give him a bite. This from someone who did not like cats. For a long time, I blamed myself for not knowing wha was wrong, but I finaly realized that he had hidden his! pain from me. We just have to do the best we can with what we know and what we can do. At least Fluffy had 1 year of sweet rolls and lots of love and that is the best we can do for anyone. Dixie was happy and healthy until a few days before she left this earth--on her own. I can't tell you about a lot of the questions you raise. I can just tell you that Dixie came in from a pine thicket behind my mother's. Apparently she had been dumped or got lost---she had been spayed and was not afraid of people. I got the sense that she had been an outside cat who was always looking in and wondering what life was like inside. I took her to Louisville to my very special vets at Middletown Animal Clinic to be spayed (not obvious that she had already had surgery). Dr. Bishop called with the results of a FELV+ test and well, death came off the table and Dixie spent the rest of her life with me. We slept in my mother's garage for a while (don't go there) then she became a trailer cat then a cat with two houses. She had EVERYTHING. Thanks to the vets at MAC and my holistic vet, Betty Boswell, Dixie was cared for and was able to leave this world on her own termscertainly not mine since my heart still breaks and it has been 3 years...but she left cared for. She had some gingivitis when she was first vetted but very little else. She went to Betty's and was on supplements, the best food I could get and she would eat, etc. Do not kick yourself. Sometimes I do when I wonder if I could have done something to have postponed Dixie's death (that is all we do for any being--we are all dying). I can tell you that, had anything been obvious, she would have been back in Louisville a lot earlier than she was. I am very consious of the expenses involved in any pet care (just got through paying 1 K thanks to a tick who infected a feral with a virus the last of Decemeber when ticks are supposed to be dead) and you should never kick yourself over this. That was not an issue with Dixie. It was just time for her to leave.and break my heart. FYI: A month after Dixie left she sent a tiny kitten from the same pine thicket to keep me busy. Two weeks later she decided I wasn't busy enough and that the 1st kitten needed a brother. The family of 5 hawks was deprived of tiny snacks. All of this is to say, you do the best you can with the nowledge and resouces you have and with an honest heart. Sometimes things work wonderfully (both kittens are FELV- and extremely healthy, most of the time happy 3 year old cats) and sometimes you have the honor of carrying for a little one for a short timeand having your heart break. It is worth it to you and to the wonderful cats you love. On May 20, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Debbie Bendell wrote: I am new to this listserv and couldn't figure out how to reply, so I'm posting a new message. Thanks for your responses. I feel a little less stupid and guilty for not having every cat tested before it joined my household. I have many cats and the fee for testing is $40, so I can't afford to do them all at once. Does a cat get noticeably sick when it's first infected? Three of my cats have been sick enough to need bloodwork since I adopted Tulo, and they all tested negative. If a cat is infected by an asymptomatic carrier, will the newly infected cat also be asymptomatic? My cats are indoor cats. There is no possible outside source of infection. I am just baffled at how Tulo could go from alive and
Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
Wonder about trimming the nails? I do my guys a lot but the vets did them once and they can be trimmed a lot shorter than I have been cutting them. On May 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting right on the front step. Cat's way of saying, I don't even think so. Sigh. ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws I cannot even begin to think about soft paws for my pride. I don't think I would come out of it alive. We do not like anything put on us. Melinda Kerr msk...@me.com wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions! Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2011, at 6:27 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: And the bigger the better. Especially if they can get in safely and have at it. On May 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Natalie wrote: Any cardboard box is also great - let them destroy them, toss them,. get them new ones...sprinkle catnip inside! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Copper and Thomas like sheets (large) of Styrofoam..I have some on the floor from packaging and a couple of styrofoam insulation boards (8 foot +) leaning against a wall in the garage. A little messy but that is what vacs and brooms are for. On May 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Natalie wrote: I have known many people who used SoftPaws - it all depends on the cat and one's perseveranceno two cats are the same! The best thing to do is to trim the claws regularly and provide many scratching surfaces - some cats like vertical and others prefer horizontal. Cats usually like to scratch something after waking up and/or getting off the litter box, that's why it's a good idea to have those available near those sources. If they pick on a corner of a sofa, cover with double-sided sticky tape and place a good scratch post next to it until the cat gets used to it. Not all scratch posts are created equally! Carpet covered ones send the wrong message to cats.vertical or horizontal. The best ones are real wood, next best are covered with sisal twine woven material, and then just plain sisal rope. In a multiple-cat household, the last is the least effective because those twines are scratched apart and have to be recovered (can be done!) Using catnip on scratch posts to retrain is a good idea - and pulling a toy up the scratch post works really well! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Kerr Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws Has anyone tried Soft Paws for their cats? I have read a few unfavorable reviews on Amazon.com, but even more favorable ones. My cats are starting to damage the persian rugs and leather carpet. My husband is threatening bodily harm if they don't stop it! Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia .org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
