[Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary
Christiane jus posted a Facebook URL about Aslanscats FeLV Cat Sanctuary Because our felvtalk cannot accept more than 20KB in a MAILING, I WILL POST SOMETHING IN SEVERAL PARTS! I FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS GROUP IN THE FUTURE, TOO! They need to replace all of these lost items, if anyone is in this are: 10 50lb bags of dry food 15 litter boxes 30 cases of canned food 20 cat beds cat trees and condos scratching posts She lost $3000 worth of medicines for the cats and now needs: Lactated ringers solution, prozymes, Pen-g solution, baytril, doxycycline, panacur, stongid, clavamox, lysine, mega C, 1cc and 3cc syringes, 18 gauge needles and 21 gauge needles TOWELS Please go to www.aslanscats.org Or send donations to: Aslans cats, 486 west main street, Catskill, NY 12414. Please make checks payable to: aslans cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Aslans cats in desperate need!
In this kind of a situation, even if everyone just sent $1, it would add up! PLEASE help! URGENT PLEASE HELP! PLEASE CROSS POST! Aslans Cats (located in Catskill, NY) submerged by flood waters from the storm. and the water had not finished rising yet. This unique sanctuary housed 68 leukemia positive cats in a home environment. 8 cats died (7 of them drowned). They lost all their possessions in the flood: food, litter, beds, scratching posts, condos, MEDICINE and a new front loading washer and dryer. They don't even know the status of their other appliances yet because they don't have the electricity to plug them in. The entire basement was under water and the first floor had 4 feet of water and was filled with mud. Prior to the flood, this was a beautiful house and the cats could go freely from inside into spectacular fenced in yard with a specially outfitted shed that the cats really enjoyed. The yard, the shed and the fencing were severely damaged by 10 feet of water. The fencing will need repair before the cats can enjoy the yard again. They still don't have full electricity back yet and the interior walls are in the midst of being torn down because of mold forming. The basement is unusable now. Please consider helping the surviving 60 cats! They need monetary donations as well as material donations. THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO, so they have been living in horrible conditions since the storm. Please click through to their website and you will find their donate button. www.aslanscats.org http://www.aslanscats.org/ Also, at the end of this e-mail, you will find a list of items that they sorely need. Most important... they need dry food (any food that does not have For those of you who want to know why this happened. This area was not told to evacuate and the flash floods took everyone by surprise. Hilary (the director and manager of the sanctuary) was forcibly dragged from her home by police against her will and when she was permitted to return a few hours later, she found the devastation. She's been living a nightmare. Please help by donating and spreading the word through e-mail and facebook. THANK YOU SO MUCH! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Note treatments for FIP, FeLV, FIV
Note treatments for FIP, FeLV, FIV New treatments for atopic dermatitis, feline stomatitis, feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), feline leukemia virus (FeLV), immunodeficiency virus (FIV; cat AIDS) and other frustrating diseases that affect millions of dogs, cats, and horses. Also, shelter discounts, etc. http://www.imulantrials.com/Home_Page.html ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_RELEASING_FIV_FELV_POSITIVE_CATS For FeLV, again the ELISA test is almost always the initial test used. In contrast to FIV, the FeLV ELISA does not detect antibodies, but whether the antigen of the virus is present in the blood. In other words, a positive test result indicates the presence of the actual FeLV virus in the blood. But, the test is extremely sensitive and is prone to false positives from improper handling. In addition, a cat in the early stages of FeLV infection can still fight it off. The disease does not take permanent hold until it enters the cat's white blood cells, which only another type of test, the IFA test (Immunofluoresence Assay, also known as the Hardy test) can determine. The IFA test must be performed at a lab and is more expensive. Consequently, if a cat appears otherwise healthy, a positive ELISA test should always be confirmed with an IFA test. Only if other severe pathological symptoms of FeLV are present should an initial positive ELISA ever be relied upon alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary
Those medicines are prescription...even the Ringers:( On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Christiane jus posted a Facebook URL about Aslanscats FeLV Cat Sanctuary** ** Because our felvtalk cannot accept more than 20KB in a MAILING, I WILL POST SOMETHING IN SEVERAL PARTS! I FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS GROUP IN THE FUTURE, TOO! *They need to replace all of these lost items, if anyone is in this are:* 10 50lb bags of dry food 15 litter boxes 30 cases of canned food 20 cat beds cat trees and condos scratching posts She lost $3000 worth of medicines for the cats and now needs: Lactated ringers solution, prozymes, Pen-g solution, baytril, doxycycline, panacur, stongid, clavamox, lysine, mega C, 1cc and 3cc syringes, 18 gauge needles and 21 gauge needles TOWELS Please go to www.aslanscats.org Or send donations to: Aslans cats, 486 west main street, Catskill, NY 12414. Please make checks payable to: aslans cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary
Whoops...panacur strongid lysine mega c syringes are not. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Those medicines are prescription...even the Ringers:( On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Christiane jus posted a Facebook URL about Aslanscats FeLV Cat Sanctuary* *** Because our felvtalk cannot accept more than 20KB in a MAILING, I WILL POST SOMETHING IN SEVERAL PARTS! I FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS GROUP IN THE FUTURE, TOO! *They need to replace all of these lost items, if anyone is in this are:* 10 50lb bags of dry food 15 litter boxes 30 cases of canned food 20 cat beds cat trees and condos scratching posts She lost $3000 worth of medicines for the cats and now needs: Lactated ringers solution, prozymes, Pen-g solution, baytril, doxycycline, panacur, stongid, clavamox, lysine, mega C, 1cc and 3cc syringes, 18 gauge needles and 21 gauge needles TOWELS Please go to www.aslanscats.org Or send donations to: Aslans cats, 486 west main street, Catskill, NY 12414. Please make checks payable to: aslans cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary
Also they should contact Petcothey give disaster grants On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops...panacur strongid lysine mega c syringes are not. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.comwrote: Those medicines are prescription...even the Ringers:( On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Christiane jus posted a Facebook URL about Aslanscats FeLV Cat Sanctuary Because our felvtalk cannot accept more than 20KB in a MAILING, I WILL POST SOMETHING IN SEVERAL PARTS! I FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS GROUP IN THE FUTURE, TOO! *They need to replace all of these lost items, if anyone is in this are: * 10 50lb bags of dry food 15 litter boxes 30 cases of canned food 20 cat beds cat trees and condos scratching posts She lost $3000 worth of medicines for the cats and now needs: Lactated ringers solution, prozymes, Pen-g solution, baytril, doxycycline, panacur, stongid, clavamox, lysine, mega C, 1cc and 3cc syringes, 18 gauge needles and 21 gauge needles TOWELS Please go to www.aslanscats.org Or send donations to: Aslans cats, 486 west main street, Catskill, NY 12414. Please make checks payable to: aslans cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary
People can donate money so she can get the prescription meds :) Edna From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:18:14 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aslans FeLV cat sanctuary Also they should contact Petcothey give disaster grants On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops...panacur strongid lysine mega c syringes are not. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: Those medicines are prescription...even the Ringers:( On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Christiane jus posted a Facebook URL about Aslanscats FeLV Cat Sanctuary Because our felvtalk cannot accept more than 20KB in a MAILING, I WILL POST SOMETHING IN SEVERAL PARTS! I FEEL THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THIS GROUP IN THE FUTURE, TOO! They need to replace all of these lost items, if anyone is in this are: 10 50lb bags of dry food 15 litter boxes 30 cases of canned food 20 cat beds cat trees and condos scratching posts She lost $3000 worth of medicines for the cats and now needs: Lactated ringers solution, prozymes, Pen-g solution, baytril, doxycycline, panacur, stongid, clavamox, lysine, mega C, 1cc and 3cc syringes, 18 gauge needles and 21 gauge needles TOWELS Please go to www.aslanscats.org Or send donations to: Aslans cats, 486 west main street, Catskill, NY 12414. Please make checks payable to: aslans cats. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
Our shelter doesn't adopt out ANY cat to anyone who smokes indoors. FeLV cats (actually all cats) need a clean, healthy environment. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group
We have a group here that follows the same guidelines, which is the Alley Cat Allies guidelines. I oppose this whole heartedly. I think it is so wrong to release an FeLV positive cat back into a colony. You are spreading a disease. Not to mention that infected cats are probably going to die a lonely, awful death. I don't feel the same about FIV, as long as the colony is closely managed sick cats are re-caught. This attitude simply gives those who oppose TNR more ammunition against it. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_RELEASING_FIV_FELV_POSITIVE_CATS For FeLV, again the ELISA test is almost always the initial test used. In contrast to FIV, the FeLV ELISA does not detect antibodies, but whether the antigen of the virus is present in the blood. In other words, a positive test result indicates the presence of the actual FeLV virus in the blood. But, the test is extremely sensitive and is prone to false positives from improper handling. In addition, a cat in the early stages of FeLV infection can still fight it off. The disease does not take permanent hold until it enters the cat's white blood cells, which only another type of test, the IFA test (Immunofluoresence Assay, also known as the Hardy test) can determine. The IFA test must be performed at a lab and is more expensive. Consequently, if a cat appears otherwise healthy, a positive ELISA test should always be confirmed with an IFA test. Only if other severe pathological symptoms of FeLV are present should an initial positive ELISA ever be relied upon alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness From: Cindy McHugh lt;ci...@furangels.orggt; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn#39;t good for humans or cats, but I#39;m wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He#39;d be a companion to a homebound gentleman who#39;s looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
I'm a smoker. And our personal cats live to be around 18 years of age. I would not reject an adoptive home merely because a family member smokes. --- On Wed, 9/21/11, john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john pollack bucfa...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 1:31 PM I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
I would adopt to a smoker before I would to someone who declaws. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:31:32 -0700 From: bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
I would adopt to a smoker before I adopted to someone with flimsy window screens. I would adopt to an adult smoker before I adopted to a non-smoker with small children. --- On Wed, 9/21/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 1:54 PM I would adopt to a smoker before I would to someone who declaws. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:31:32 -0700 From: bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
Secondhand smoke dangers: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/secondhand-smoke-harms-pets.html#ixzz1XvtH 6ZvF http://www.care2.com/greenliving/secondhand-smoke-harms-pets.html#ixzz1XvtH6 ZvF From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cindy McHugh Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
I would too, if they aren't chain smokers and smoke outside..however, I've known too many cats with lymphoma from homes of smokers.fact! And those cats were not FeLV+! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke I would adopt to a smoker before I would to someone who declaws. _ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:31:32 -0700 From: bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness _ From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
couldte man be persuaded to stop smoking, if not for his own good ten for the cat's good health? Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Secondhand smoke dangers: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/secondhand-smoke-harms-pets.html#ixzz1XvtH 6ZvF http://www.care2.com/greenliving/secondhand-smoke-harms-pets.html#ixzz1XvtH6 ZvF From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cindy McHugh Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
That is a good point. Main thing to look for would he take good care of him and not mistreat him. Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: I would adopt to a smoker before I adopted to someone with flimsy window screens. I would adopt to an adult smoker before I adopted to a non-smoker with small children. --- On Wed, 9/21/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 1:54 PM I would adopt to a smoker before I would to someone who declaws. Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:31:32 -0700 From: bucfa...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke I smoke, and have had Tigger for almost 5 years now. FeLV+, and STILL showing no signs of sickness From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group
I would never release either FIV or FeLV positive cats..but then, again, I personally don't do TNR, and could not - those faces would haunt me day and night, and I would worry about them getting sick and dying alone, as you do. However, look at all the people in this group whose healthy cats aren't getting infected by their FeLV cat(s)! Once they're spayed/neutered, FIV positive cats are no danger to others.but they can still get sick and die alone. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group We have a group here that follows the same guidelines, which is the Alley Cat Allies guidelines. I oppose this whole heartedly. I think it is so wrong to release an FeLV positive cat back into a colony. You are spreading a disease. Not to mention that infected cats are probably going to die a lonely, awful death. I don't feel the same about FIV, as long as the colony is closely managed sick cats are re-caught. This attitude simply gives those who oppose TNR more ammunition against it. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:50 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Interesting FeLV info from a rescue group http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_RELEASING_FIV_FELV_POSITIVE_CATS For FeLV, again the ELISA test is almost always the initial test used. In contrast to FIV, the FeLV ELISA does not detect antibodies, but whether the antigen of the virus is present in the blood. In other words, a positive test result indicates the presence of the actual FeLV virus in the blood. But, the test is extremely sensitive and is prone to false positives from improper handling. In addition, a cat in the early stages of FeLV infection can still fight it off. The disease does not take permanent hold until it enters the cat's white blood cells, which only another type of test, the IFA test (Immunofluoresence Assay, also known as the Hardy test) can determine. The IFA test must be performed at a lab and is more expensive. Consequently, if a cat appears otherwise healthy, a positive ELISA test should always be confirmed with an IFA test. Only if other severe pathological symptoms of FeLV are present should an initial positive ELISA ever be relied upon alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
Hi all, Well here is my 2 cents worth! I'm a smoker have been for 40 years. I do not smoke directly in front of my cats/kittens. My personal kitties have never gotten sick or develop cancers from smoke this includes my FELV kitties. I've been adopting cats/kittens for over 30 years to both non-smokers and smokers. I have to say my smokers take better care of their kitties than non-smokers that have small children. As I've been to their homes and seen how clean they were. I've have repeat adopters as their kitties didn't die to cancers. Actually, lived fairly long lives. The kitties had the best in medical as well. So I do not discriminate adopters that smoke. I agree with Susan Hoffman on her posting. My suggestion is if you don't want to adopt to people that smoke. Be up front with them about it. Also, if your a rescue/shelter put it in your rules and guidelines on your applications that you don't adopt your kitties to smokers. This way the adopter doesn't feel bad or have their heart set on the kitty. Regardless whether the kitty is Negative, FELV, FIV, or both. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette SmokeFrom: "Cindy McHugh" ci...@furangels.orgDate: Wed, September 21, 2011 9:02 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
unfortunately if you put on your application that you don't adopt to smokers many people would just lie about it. that's why we don't put on the app that we don't adopt to people who declaw or let their cats outside.they say they don't, but you do the vet check find out differently. second hand smoke is terrible for people animals. If you smoke outside that's one thing, but not around animals or children. ter...@tazzys.org wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
What are your options... Not everybody finds that people willing to adopt FeLV+ kitties are available... A smoker may not be the best choice but I would except a smoker before PTS Tad On 9/21/2011 9:01 PM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote: Hi all, Well here is my 2 cents worth! I'm a smoker have been for 40 years. I do not smoke directly in front of my cats/kittens. My personal kitties have never gotten sick or develop cancers from smoke this includes my FELV kitties. I've been adopting cats/kittens for over 30 years to both non-smokers and smokers. I have to say my smokers take better care of their kitties than non-smokers that have small children. As I've been to their homes and seen how clean they were. I've have repeat adopters as their kitties didn't die to cancers. Actually, lived fairly long lives. The kitties had the best in medical as well. So I do not discriminate adopters that smoke. I agree with Susan Hoffman on her posting. My suggestion is if you don't want to adopt to people that smoke. Be up front with them about it. Also, if your a rescue/shelter put it in your rules and guidelines on your applications that you don't adopt your kitties to smokers. This way the adopter doesn't feel bad or have their heart set on the kitty. Regardless whether the kitty is Negative, FELV, FIV, or both. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org http://tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org mailto:ci...@furangels.org Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 9:02 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's looking for company. Thanks for your time and input. Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
Anyone who wants to adopt my felv is welcome to!!! ...my requirements are: 1- don't be a psycho 2- keep him inside 3- please keep regular vet appointments THE END! A human with L would be a wonderful companion as well ;) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Tad Burnett tadburn...@vermontel.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:05:49 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
