Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Yesterday hospital called me saying Nori could come home. I went there after work and, while i waited for prescriptions, she started a seizure. Vet medicated her so that seizure didn´t complete (diazepam and mannitol). I stayed with her sometime, talked to her but i felt it was a farewell. When i arrive at home, vet called me to say Nori had a cardiopulmonary arrest. They reanimated her but it could happen again. Less then 30 minutes later, they called me again to say Nori had passed away. As always happens here, when a cat has seizures, brazilian veterinarians says it is fip. I don´t know what she really had, i am very sorrow for didn´t bring her home on sunday, when she was better. At least, she would have had one more day at home, with sun bath and love. I want to thank all of you. You were the best support i could find for Nori. Thank you very much. Patrícia Em ter, 11 de jun de 2019 às 00:22, Amani Oakley escreveu: > We’re all pulling for Nori. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk * On Behalf Of *Ardy > Robertson > *Sent:* June 10, 2019 11:21 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > Hello all – I’m following Nori’s progress and please know, I’m keeping her > in my thoughts and prayers too, hoping the Stanizolol/Doxy/Prednisolone > combo works for her. She has chosen her owners well, thank you for taking > such good care of her. And thanks Amani for the good advice as always. > > Ardy > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of *Amani > Oakley > *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:23 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous > fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it > makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV > fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much > to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder. > > > > I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats > whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some > extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal > cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc. > > > > Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow. > > > > I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of *Patricia > Oliveira > *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > > > > She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives > external heating too. > > > > They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart > rate several times a day. > > I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with > fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now. > > > > > > > > Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley > escreveu: > > Patricia > > > > I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good > news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news > on the rosy gingiva. > > > > Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a > bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as > a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack > of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is > consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now > other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells). > > > > I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is likely > why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the > transfusion, she was active and eating on her own. > > > > Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on > the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that > with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the > platelets recovered. > > > > I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up. > > > > I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She is > working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time to > recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and > medication to start to work. I don’t know how a neurological diagnosis > could help you now, and one would expect the neurologist will have a > difficult time seeing a true neurological deficit, with all the rest of the > stuff happening. > > > > I would also suggest that at some point, it is better for her to be with > you at home. If they are not giving her anything like fluids, you might > consider taking her home with you. I know with Zander, he reacted most > strongly when I was there with him. I could get him to
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
You have my deepest sympathy Patricia! I am so so sorry! ~~@~@~@~@~@ *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM Patricia Oliveira wrote: > Yesterday hospital called me saying Nori could come home. I went there > after work and, while i waited for prescriptions, she started a seizure. > > Vet medicated her so that seizure didn´t complete (diazepam and mannitol). > > I stayed with her sometime, talked to her but i felt it was a farewell. > > When i arrive at home, vet called me to say Nori had a cardiopulmonary > arrest. They reanimated her but it could happen again. > > Less then 30 minutes later, they called me again to say Nori had passed > away. > > As always happens here, when a cat has seizures, brazilian veterinarians > says it is fip. > > I don´t know what she really had, i am very sorrow for didn´t bring her > home on sunday, when she was better. At least, she would have had one more > day at home, with sun bath and love. > > I want to thank all of you. You were the best support i could find for > Nori. > > Thank you very much. > > > Patrícia > > Em ter, 11 de jun de 2019 às 00:22, Amani Oakley > escreveu: > >> We’re all pulling for Nori. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk * On Behalf Of *Ardy >> Robertson >> *Sent:* June 10, 2019 11:21 PM >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + >> >> >> >> Hello all – I’m following Nori’s progress and please know, I’m keeping >> her in my thoughts and prayers too, hoping the Stanizolol/Doxy/Prednisolone >> combo works for her. She has chosen her owners well, thank you for taking >> such good care of her. And thanks Amani for the good advice as always. >> >> Ardy >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of *Amani >> Oakley >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:23 PM >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + >> >> >> >> One option is to ask your vet to show you how to give her subcutaneous >> fluids, which I do all the time for my cats if needed. However, for now, it >> makes sense to leave her there I guess. I presume they are warming the IV >> fluids too, because again, with such a small kitten, it wouldn’t take much >> to chill her if the fluids are at room temperature or colder. >> >> >> >> I guess it’s just me. I am pretty adamant about taking home my cats >> whenever possible, but I understand that Nori sounds like she needs some >> extra help. I just find that the cats respond far better to personal >> cuddling and love, and this makes them feel better, eat more, etc. >> >> >> >> Hopefully, she will feel better tomorrow. >> >> >> >> I’m crossing my fingers for you and Nori. >> >> >> >> Amani >> >> >> >> *From:* Felvtalk *On Behalf Of >> *Patricia >> Oliveira >> *Sent:* June 8, 2019 9:53 PM >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + >> >> >> >> She has fluids IV all the time and replenishment of potassium. Receives >> external heating too. >> >> >> >> They monitor pressure (low sometimes), oxygenation, temperature and heart >> rate several times a day. >> >> I wish she could come home soon but she has been dehydrated even with >> fluids IV. I don´t know if it is safe to bring her now. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Em sáb, 8 de jun de 2019 às 22:03, Amani Oakley >> escreveu: >> >> Patricia >> >> >> >> I agree with you that it is too early to tell, but for sure it is good >> news that the haematocrit is moving in the right direction. Very good news >> on the rosy gingiva. >> >> >> >> Rouleaux is likely only due to the transfusion. She appears to have had a >> bit of transfusion reaction, so the cells may be sticking to one another as >> a result. (Red cells in Rouleaux formation means that the look like a stack >> of coins – one on top of the other. In humans, that presentation is >> consistent with multiple myeloma. I don’t think it means anything right now >> other than the new red cells may be reacting a bit with her own cells). >> >> >> >> I think she is working through the transfusion reaction, so that is >> likely why she is sleeping because you said that immediately after the >> transfusion, she was active and eating on her own. >> >> >> >> Low platelets are consistent with the FeLV presentation and the impact on >> the bone marrow. Hopefully, the Stanozolol will help. I seem to recall that >> with my Zander, I had the red cell numbers recover first, before the >> platelets recovered. >> >> >> >> I presume they have her on a heating pad to keep her body temperature up. >> >> >> >> I suspect it might be premature to look at the neurology right now. She >> is working through a lot, and is a tiny kitten. She needs to be given time >> to recover from the transfusion reaction, and to allow the good food and >> medication to start to work. I don’t know how a neurologica
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neleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> > >> We did another blood work today, her hematocrit is 13% now :( > >> > >> > >> > >> She is very sleepy but responsive when i talk to her. > >> > >> > >> > >> I don?t know if i can wait some more days to see if stanozolol is > >> working. Or maybe it would be better get another transfusion right now. > >> > >> > >> > >> Today, vet talk about erythropoietin. Do you know if it can be used > with > >> stanozolol? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> > >> Patr?cia > >> > >> > >> > >> Em s?b, 1 de jun de 2019 ?s 14:44, Amani Oakley > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > > >> escreveu: > >> > >> Hi Patricia ? I gave all the pills together, morning and evening, > except > >> for the metoclopramide which was given ? or so before meals. The rest I > >> gave with the meals. I didn?t observe a problem with giving them > together. > >> > >> > >> > >> You might also try baby food to get Nori to eat. Get the pureed kind > >> (beef or chicken with or without vegetables), so it can be sucked up > into a > >> syringe. If my Zander wasn?t eating (and he wasn?t at the start of the > >> medication regime), then I would use a syringe to get the baby food > into > >> him. Baby food is easy to digest and has good things in it. I would > target > >> ? say ? five 3 cc syringe-fulls at each feeding. I would boost the > number > >> of syringe-fulls if possible. Eventually, Zander started eating the > baby > >> food on his own, and then I graduated to moist food, and really, > anything > >> he wanted until he put the weight back on. > >> > >> > >> > >> I had a look at the picture you sent and Nori is adorable. I am > crossing > >> my fingers for you and for Nori. Keep us updated on her progress. > >> > >> > >> > >> Amani > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* Felvtalk mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia > >> Oliveira > >> *Sent:* June 1, 2019 12:36 PM > >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, Amani! > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanky you very much for you email! > >> > >> > >> > >> Nori was discharged from the hospital yesterday night. She is eating > baby > >> dry food. I tried canned but she didn?t accept so weel. > >> > >> > >> > >> Today i bought other kinds of canned, i'll try them hoping she likes > some > >> one. > >> > >> > >> > >> Compound pharmacy must delivery stanozolol today. > >> > >> > >> > >> Are there any precautions regarding medication schedules? Close or far > to > >> doxy, for example? > >> > >> > >> > >> This is Nori: > >> https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html > >> > <https://catsnecropolis.blogspot.com/2019/06/nori-teve-alta.html?fbclid=IwAR0cXMedtfi73B81pJI7QiYGwRTJf9VJp-JN7S_Tstb0ANeg0Hm4ObtFH_A> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> Patr?cia > >> > >> > >> > >> Em qui, 30 de mai de 2019 ?s 20:52, Amani Oakley > mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com > > >> escreveu: > >> > >> Sorry Patricia ? after going on and on in my last email, I realized I > >> hadn?t actually answered your question. I think you can probably use > the > >> stanozolol with the Doxycycline, without the prednisone, but prednisone > >> itself has properties which help to boost red cell production. Try it > out, > >> keep close tabs on the haematology results and see if you are getting a > >> good response on just Doxycycline and the Stanozolol. If not, add the > >> prednisone. You may find that this combination assists with the FIP as > >> well, as per my previous email. > >> > >> > >> > >> Amani > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* Felvtalk mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > *On Behalf Of *Patricia > >> Oliveira > >> *Sent:* May 30, 2019 12:56 PM > >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv + > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi from Brazil, > >> > >> > >> > >> I rescued a very weak, dehydrated, extremely thin kitten. > >> > >> > >> She's hospitalized now. Her hematocrit was 8, had blood transfusion > which > >> raised hematocrit to 22, now it is 19. Low reticulocyte count. > >> > >> She has difficulty walking, which we can not define if it is just > >> weakness or neurological. Already had a seizure. > >> > >> She also have changes in her kidneys. It has been tested and is felv + > >> > >> She is receiving doxy and the hospital vets would like to include > >> prednisolone. > >> > >> However, as it is not possible yet to rule out PIF, and the medication > I > >> could use in the case of PIF does not work if the cat received > >> prednisolone, I am trying to avoid it. > >> > >> The veterinarian agreed to prescribe stanozolol. > >> > >> Can it be used without prednisolone, only with doxy she is already > >> receiving? > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> Patr?cia > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20190611/b723ef5c/attachment.html> > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > -- > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 55, Issue 26 > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Rescued kitten felv +
Dear Patricia, I am so sorry about Nori dying. She was a very lucky girl to have had you to help her at the end of her life. Sadly, - Lorraine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yesterday hospital called me saying Nori could come home. I went there after work and, while i waited for prescriptions, she started a seizure. Vet medicated her so that seizure didn´t complete (diazepam and mannitol). I stayed with her sometime, talked to her but i felt it was a farewell. When i arrive at home, vet called me to say Nori had a cardiopulmonary arrest. They reanimated her but it could happen again. Less then 30 minutes later, they called me again to say Nori had passed away. As always happens here, when a cat has seizures, brazilian veterinarians says it is fip. I don´t know what she really had, i am very sorrow for didn´t bring her home on sunday, when she was better. At least, she would have had one more day at home, with sun bath and love. I want to thank all of you. You were the best support i could find for Nori. Thank you very much. Patrícia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
