Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Nina]

Oh poor Ginger!  10 teeth all at once.  Are they keeping her dopey on 
pain meds?  Wasn't Belinda just saying how one of her positives had most 
of her teeth removed, recovered and has been doing fine ever since?  
Come on Ginger, stay strong baby.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The internist wanted to do an ultrasound but did not expect to find anything 
on it, and thought her mouth was horrible. So I passed on the ultrasoud and 
got her dental work today. She needed 10 teeth extracted, so I am hoping that is 
what her problem was. She still does not want to eat, but she did just have 
major mouth surgery today and also ha 2 hours of anesthesia.  Please pray/send 
energy for her, both to get through the surgery and aftermath without 
triggering the virus, and also that her mouth is her only problem and  that it clear 
up.
Thanks,
Michelle

In a message dated 5/10/05 1:24:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Michelle,
What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday?  

Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,
Nina >>

 

Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Kerry MacKenzie]

Dear Michelle
I just logged on to ask you about Ginger, so I'm glad to find your update.
Am praying as hard as I can that today's surgery does solve the problem, and
she's able to start eating again as soon as her poor mouth recovers from the
surgery. (I wonder how long that normally takes?)  I hope you both get some
rest tonight now that at least today's medical ordeal is over.
Sending Ginger lots of healing vibes...I'm assuming she's still in the
clinic where they can keep a close eye on her?
lots of love and hugs to you both, Kerry




- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger


> The internist wanted to do an ultrasound but did not expect to find
anything
> on it, and thought her mouth was horrible. So I passed on the ultrasoud
and
> got her dental work today. She needed 10 teeth extracted, so I am hoping
that is
> what her problem was. She still does not want to eat, but she did just
have
> major mouth surgery today and also ha 2 hours of anesthesia.  Please
pray/send
> energy for her, both to get through the surgery and aftermath without
> triggering the virus, and also that her mouth is her only problem and
that it clear
> up.
> Thanks,
> Michelle
>
>
> In a message dated 5/10/05 1:24:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Michelle,
>
> What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday?
>
> Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,
>
> Nina >>
>
>

Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Cherie A Gabbert]

Michelle
I feel for you I am so sorry you both had to go through this, the next few weeks are probally going to be tense and I am sending all good healing positve vibes for a full recovery...keep us informed...
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The internist wanted to do an ultrasound but did not expect to find anything on it, and thought her mouth was horrible. So I passed on the ultrasoud and got her dental work today. She needed 10 teeth extracted, so I am hoping that is what her problem was. She still does not want to eat, but she did just have major mouth surgery today and also ha 2 hours of anesthesia. Please pray/send energy for her, both to get through the surgery and aftermath without triggering the virus, and also that her mouth is her only problem and that it clear up.Thanks,MichelleIn a message dated 5/10/05 1:24:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Michelle,What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday? Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,Nina >>Have a purrfect day
Cherie
 

Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Barb Moermond]

Sending calm healing and strength - I have the feeling that after she gets through the first day or so that's the worst and she tries to eat again, she'll be fine.  Smoky only had 2 extractions and it took him a day or two to get back to the regular swing of things.
 
<<<>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The internist wanted to do an ultrasound but did not expect to find anything on it, and thought her mouth was horrible. So I passed on the ultrasoud and got her dental work today. She needed 10 teeth extracted, so I am hoping that is what her problem was. She still does not want to eat, but she did just have major mouth surgery today and also ha 2 hours of anesthesia. Please pray/send energy for her, both to get through the surgery and aftermath without triggering the virus, and also that her mouth is her only problem and that it clear up.Thanks,MichelleIn a message dated 5/10/05 1:24:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Michelle,What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday? Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,Nina >>Barb+Smoky the House
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Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Lernermichelle]

The internist wanted to do an ultrasound but did not expect to find anything 
on it, and thought her mouth was horrible. So I passed on the ultrasoud and 
got her dental work today. She needed 10 teeth extracted, so I am hoping that 
is 
what her problem was. She still does not want to eat, but she did just have 
major mouth surgery today and also ha 2 hours of anesthesia.  Please pray/send 
energy for her, both to get through the surgery and aftermath without 
triggering the virus, and also that her mouth is her only problem and  that it 
clear 
up.
Thanks,
Michelle


In a message dated 5/10/05 1:24:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Michelle,

What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday?  

Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,

Nina >>

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Terri Brown]

LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: TenHouseCats 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: 
  going out of town
  gotta watch out for those commas!On 5/10/05, Nina 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:>  Ha!  English is such a difficult 
  language!>  Nina> >  >  Terri Brown 
  wrote:>  >  >  > My sister is not 
  married to my brother-in-law.  I see why you would think> that 
  though by the way I wrote that! >   > They'd kill each 
  other.  They get along fine, but they would never have made> it as 
  a couple.  Rocky is married now though.  His wife is more of a 
  cat> lover than he is, but he takes good care of the critters when 
  we're away. > My sister comes at one time of the day, and Rocky comes 
  another time so that> the babies have company a few times during the 
  day.  My sister spends more> time with them though.  She has 
  five cats of her own, and she knows how> type-A I am about them! 
  >  > - Original Message - > From: Nina 
  > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: for Barbara 
  (Baass) re: going out of town > >  Terri,>  Do 
  I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's brother? 
  > Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?>  
  Nina>  >  Terri Brown wrote:>  
  >  >  > When we go out of town, my four 
  furchildren are looked after by their Aunt> Ellie (my sister) and Uncle 
  Rocky (my husband's brother).  We never leave> them for more than 
  4 days at a time.  They stay here so that they don't get> stressed 
  out. >   > You have more than me -- most of mine are 
  angel babies >   > =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie 
  the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5> furangels: RuthieGirl, 
  Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= >   > Furkid 
  Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/>  
  My FeLV Site:> http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/>  
  My Personal Page:> http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350-- 
  MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 
  289856892

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[TenHouseCats]

gotta watch out for those commas!

On 5/10/05, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Ha!  English is such a difficult language!
>  Nina
> 
>  
>  Terri Brown wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> My sister is not married to my brother-in-law.  I see why you would think
> that though by the way I wrote that! 
>   
> They'd kill each other.  They get along fine, but they would never have made
> it as a couple.  Rocky is married now though.  His wife is more of a cat
> lover than he is, but he takes good care of the critters when we're away. 
> My sister comes at one time of the day, and Rocky comes another time so that
> the babies have company a few times during the day.  My sister spends more
> time with them though.  She has five cats of her own, and she knows how
> type-A I am about them! 
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Nina 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:18 PM 
> Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town 
> 
>  Terri,
>  Do I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's brother? 
> Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?
>  Nina
>  
>  Terri Brown wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> When we go out of town, my four furchildren are looked after by their Aunt
> Ellie (my sister) and Uncle Rocky (my husband's brother).  We never leave
> them for more than 4 days at a time.  They stay here so that they don't get
> stressed out. 
>   
> You have more than me -- most of mine are angel babies 
>   
> =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5
> furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= 
>   
> Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
>  My FeLV Site:
> http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
>  My Personal Page:
> http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350


-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[TenHouseCats]

i've known people who hired vet techs from their own vets' to
kitty-sit--because they really don't want their bosses mad at them if
they mess up with a client, it's usually worked out well.

did a quick search--http://www.pet-sitters.biz/ seems to be both for
sitters and those looking for sitters. there may be (there SHOULD
be) a list of things that need to be asked and answered on both
sides.
-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Nina]

Ha!  English is such a difficult language!
Nina

Terri Brown wrote:

  
  
  

  
  My sister is not married to my brother-in-law.  I see why you
would think that though by the way I wrote that!
   
  They'd kill each other.  They get along fine, but they would
never have made it as a couple.  Rocky is married now though.  His wife
is more of a cat lover than he is, but he takes good care of the
critters when we're away.  My sister comes at one time of the day, and
Rocky comes another time so that the babies have company a few times
during the day.  My sister spends more time with them though.  She has
five cats of her own, and she knows how type-A I am about them!
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Nina 
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent:
Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject:
Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town


Terri,
Do I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's
brother?  Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?
Nina

Terri Brown wrote:

  

  
  When we go out of town, my four furchildren are looked after
by their Aunt Ellie (my sister) and Uncle Rocky (my husband's
brother).  We never leave them for more than 4 days at a time.  They
stay here so that they don't get stressed out.
   
  You have more than me -- most of mine are angel babies
   
  =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec
=^..^=
   
  Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
  

  
  

Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[catatonya]

Hi Jenn,
 
I'm sure you've got a lot of replies already.  If I were in your situation I would keep them separated until your 3 year old cat gets the felv vaccine and booster.  Then wait maybe 2 more weeks after that, and let the cats be together.  That's what I have done with no transmission so far (about 10 years). 
 
tonyaJennifer Korin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi!I hope it's okay to just jump in here. I found this mailing listwhile searching for information about FeLV. About three weeks ago, Iadopted a 6 month old kitten who was tested FeLV negative by therescue I got her from. Tessa started sneezing a lot after I got her,and I took her to the vet to be checked out. During the course of thevisit, they did another FeLV test (because they have a combo of thatwith FIV, and the shelter hadn't tested for FIV) and she was positive.(We're talking tests a literal week apart - the shelter had her testedwhen she was spayed the weekend before I got her.)Anyway, we had just lost a beloved cat to a sudden stomach hernia, andTessa had already slid right into the empty hollow in my heart (and atmy feet), so there was no question of sending her back to the rescue. But, we have an older cat (about
 3 years old) who is attached at thehip to my eight year old. They love each other to distraction. Whenwe found out that Tessa was infected, we rushed Midnight, the oldercat right in to the vet (although she had only been exposed to Tessafor four days). Midnight, thankfully, was still negative. We'vescheduled her to be vaccinated (she was running a temp at the lastappointment and we couldn't get it done then).Here's my concern. At the moment, Tessa is isolated in our bedroom. She's on about 4 different drugs to rid her of an upper repiratoryinfection and a yeast infection in her ears. The vet is also talkingabout starting her on Interferon. But, she is a very social kitty. She wants to be where I am, and is constantly trying to escape thebedroom. Meanwhile, Midnight is used to having the run of the house,and though my daughter's room is her "natural habitat", the closeddoor is irritating her, since we never close doors. So
 she keepstrying to get in. We're just dealing with it until Midnight isvaccinated, but it's hard to imagine keeping them totally isolated forhowever long Tessa is with us. Do you have any advice about + and -cats together? Will the vaccine and Midnight's adult age protect hersufficiently? Or should I keep tossing them back in their own areasevery time I open the door? Will Tessa have a crummy life living injust one room?Also, does anyone know how a cat could test negative one week and thenpositive on both the vet and lab (IFA) tests a week later? Isn't IFAan indicator of a later stage of infection?Is there anything important I should know right away to help Tessalive as long as possible?She is adorable, by the way - soft and gray, yellow eyes, ridiculouslylong tail. She loves on me and my husband, purrs louder than any catI've heard, loves to play with anything dangling and attack my feet inbed, will sit on
 my arm or lap for hours to be petted and is basicallythe most perfect cat ever. (Since my Dot passed on, anyway!)Phew. Sorry for the long message, I just have so many questions!!!By the way, I'm Jenn, but I'm used to having lots of Jenns on mailinglists, so you can call me Jenn K if that helps.Jenn K

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Terri Brown]

My sister is not married to my brother-in-law.  I see why you would 
think that though by the way I wrote that!
 
They'd kill each other.  They get along fine, but they would never 
have made it as a couple.  Rocky is married now though.  His wife is 
more of a cat lover than he is, but he takes good care of the critters when 
we're away.  My sister comes at one time of the day, and Rocky comes 
another time so that the babies have company a few times during the day.  
My sister spends more time with them though.  She has five cats of her own, 
and she knows how type-A I am about them!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nina 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: 
  going out of town
  Terri,Do I have this right?  You are married to your 
  sister's husband's brother?  Do you happen to be sets of twins as 
  well?NinaTerri Brown wrote:
  


When we go out of town, my four furchildren are looked after by their 
Aunt Ellie (my sister) and Uncle Rocky (my husband's brother).  We 
never leave them for more than 4 days at a time.  They stay here so 
that they don't get stressed out.
 
You have more than me -- most of mine are angel babies
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 
5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barbara 
  Baass 
  To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, May 09, 2005 5:52 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
  
  Yes, they more than likely saw what they 
  might have to go through with the possibility of sickness and decided they 
  didn't want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may 
  never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone is going 
  to die of anyhow.
  I guess things happen for a reason. I 
  know Tom gets top quality food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for 
  sure wouldn't want Tom in a shelter either.
  What do you do when you go out of town 
  for a couple days? Do you have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) 
  of them. You really have a lot of them.
  BarbaraTerri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  




Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before.  Feline 
Leukemia is not transmittable to humans.  That's the most 
ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  They probably just didn't want 
to deal with the possibility of sickness.
 
Tom is better off with you.  I mix mine and the negatives are 
still negative -- all 3 of them.  I don’t vaccinate yearly.  
If they're immune, they're immune (imho).
 
Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots of 
love.  The rest is details.  They have a better life with me 
than they'd have on the street or in a shelter.  And they're 
pampered.  They know I love them.
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, 
and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec 
=^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barbara Baass 
  To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, May 09, 2005 7:44 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
  
  
  Thanks for the information. Guess I 
  will be on for awhile longer. They brought Tom back in three & a 
  half hours. His wife looked it up on the internet and he said that his 
  sister is taking chemo treatments and is not suppose to be around a 
  leukemia cat, so he didn't want to take the 
risk.
  Have you ever heard of this? I 
  wonder  what site she saw this on? You could tell that Tom sure 
  was glad to be back. I am really disappointed though. It was really a 
  nice home and big yard with lots of trees.
  Barbara 
  BaassBelinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
    
Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can check on him 
occasionally and hear how he is 
doing.The 
instr

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Nina]

MC,
'Nepotic', what a smarty pants you are! :)
Nina
TenHouseCats wrote:
you're very observant--i totally missed that nepotic connection!
On 5/10/05, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Terri,
Do I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's brother? 
Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?
Nina

   

 

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[TenHouseCats]

you're very observant--i totally missed that nepotic connection!

On 5/10/05, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Terri,
>  Do I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's brother? 
> Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?
>  Nina
> 
>  

-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Nina]

Terri,
Do I have this right?  You are married to your sister's husband's
brother?  Do you happen to be sets of twins as well?
Nina

Terri Brown wrote:

  
  

  
  When we go out of town, my four furchildren are looked after by
their Aunt Ellie (my sister) and Uncle Rocky (my husband's brother). 
We never leave them for more than 4 days at a time.  They stay here so
that they don't get stressed out.
   
  You have more than me -- most of mine are angel babies
   
  =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec
=^..^=
   
  Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Barbara
Baass 
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent:
Monday, May 09, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject:
Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe


Yes, they more than likely saw
what they might have to go through with the possibility of sickness and
decided they didn't want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't
active and may never be and then it may. I told them you never know
what anyone is going to die of anyhow.
I guess things happen for a
reason. I know Tom gets top quality food here and I noticed they had
Iams. I for sure wouldn't want Tom in a shelter either.
What do you do when you go out
of town for a couple days? Do you have a sitter come in? I thought I
had a lot (5) of them. You really have a lot of them.
Barbara

Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  

  
  Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before. 
Feline Leukemia is not transmittable to humans.  That's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  They probably just didn't want to
deal with the possibility of sickness.
   
  Tom is better off with you.  I mix mine and the negatives
are still negative -- all 3 of them.  I don’t vaccinate yearly.  If
they're immune, they're immune (imho).
   
  Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots
of love.  The rest is details.  They have a better life with me than
they'd have on the street or in a shelter.  And they're pampered.  They
know I love them.
   
  =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec
=^..^=
   
  Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Barbara Baass 
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent:
Monday, May 09, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject:
Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe



Thanks for the information.
Guess I will be on for awhile longer. They brought Tom back in three
& a half hours. His wife looked it up on the internet and he said
that his sister is taking chemo treatments and is not suppose to be
around a leukemia cat, so he didn't want to take the risk.
Have you ever heard of this?
I wonder  what site she saw this on? You could tell that Tom sure was
glad to be back. I am really disappointed though. It was really a nice
home and big yard with lots of trees.
Barbara Baass

Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can check on him
occasionally and hear how he is doing.
  
  The
instructions below were for the old list, here is where to go to
unsubscribe:
  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemiaorg
  
Instructions are way down at the bottom of the page, good luck and
thanks for caring enough to find Tom a home!!
  
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Re: False Positive

[Terri Brown]

Ditto!

  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:05 PM
  Subject: Re: False Positive
  
  We have been on this list a long time  It's still the best 
  too.
   
  tBONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  Tonya,Yes, 
this was back in '97. They all had French names, but were all three 
years old. Little Henry Lee, who I found by a dumpster in Mississippi, 
was the positive one, and a kitten. None of the others were vaccinated 
and Henry proved to be a false negative, which is said to be a rare 
occurrence. I had called my vet from the road and said I wanted him 
tested as soon as possible. I isolated him in the bathroom and rushed 
him off for a test the same afternoon I got home with him. I was so 
happy when he first tested negative. A year later he had a dental and 
began to go downhill. That's when they found he had the virus in his 
bone marrow and was positive all along. I think at the time, the 
vaccinations were said to do more harm than good if one had indoor cats 
whose chances of exposure were rare - or maybe that was my vet's advice. 
As soon as Henry was found to be positive, all of the others were 
vaccinated with no harmful effects, even my tiny Sylvie who was born 
with hypernatremia.I left that clinic because they weren't very 
good, to put it mildly. Later I heard that a lot of other clients also 
left as well as the most of the staff. Then the owner became very ill 
and had to be hospitalized - maybe stress contributed to it.I 
don't have any positives any more, but since this list is so helpful, 
and FELV kitties do tend to be more susceptible to other illnesses, I've 
stayed on to learn things and share what I know.Litte orange Henry 
Lee was so cute. If I had another kitty in my lap, Henry would climb in 
right on top of him or her and curl up to sleep. The kitty on the bottom 
would sort of slide out from underneath and wake up looking like "what 
happened?"Bonnie with seven kitties and two 
pupswww.elephants.com- Original Message 
-From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sunday, May 8, 2005 
2:30 pmSubject: Re: False Positive> Bonnie,> > 
I remember when all of this happened. : ( I don't remember > though 
if they had all been vaccinated? Also, weren't they > kittens? I am 
remembering they were born in a closet and all had > French names? 
It's been a while, and my memory's not what it used > to be!> 
> tonya> > BONNIE J KALMBACH 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Dawn,> Here is some 
anecdotal evidence: my kitty, Claudette and my other > kitties were 
exposed to a positive kitty, my little Henry Lee, > whose > 
virus had activated. I had them all tested and Claudette was one > of 
> those exposed to Henry who became positive. I lost all of my 
> positive > kitties, but Claudette. She "threw off" the 
virus, and has tested > negative ever since.> > 
Bonnie> > > > - Original Message 
-> From: Dawn Ritzke > Date: Friday, May 6, 2005 2:51 
pm> Subject: False Positive> > > About 3 weeks ago 
my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from > feline > > 
leukemia. > > I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never 
checked him > > for > > leukemia. At that time I had my 
other kitten, Moxie retested. > > She was > > tested at 
birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back > > 
positive. > > I recently had her retested again and this time she 
came back > > negative. I > > am going to have her 
tested again in one month. She is very > > healthy. I > 
> understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not 
> > very > > familar with feline leukemia. Does anyone 
have any advice or > > suggestions.> > 
_> 
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> > McAfee® > > Security. 
http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963> > 
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>

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re: going out of town

[Terri Brown]

When we go out of town, my four furchildren are looked after by their Aunt 
Ellie (my sister) and Uncle Rocky (my husband's brother).  We never leave 
them for more than 4 days at a time.  They stay here so that they don't get 
stressed out.
 
You have more than me -- most of mine are angel babies
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara Baass 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re 
  unsubscribe
  
  Yes, they more than likely saw what they 
  might have to go through with the possibility of sickness and decided they 
  didn't want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may 
  never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone is going to 
  die of anyhow.
  I guess things happen for a reason. I know 
  Tom gets top quality food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for sure 
  wouldn't want Tom in a shelter either.
  What do you do when you go out of town for a 
  couple days? Do you have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. 
  You really have a lot of them.
  BarbaraTerri 
  Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  




Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before.  Feline 
Leukemia is not transmittable to humans.  That's the most ridiculous 
thing I've ever heard.  They probably just didn't want to deal with the 
possibility of sickness.
 
Tom is better off with you.  I mix mine and the negatives are 
still negative -- all 3 of them.  I don’t vaccinate yearly.  If 
they're immune, they're immune (imho).
 
Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots of 
love.  The rest is details.  They have a better life with me than 
they'd have on the street or in a shelter.  And they're pampered.  
They know I love them.
 
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 
5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  Baass 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:44 
  AM
  Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re 
  unsubscribe
  
  
  Thanks for the information. Guess I will 
  be on for awhile longer. They brought Tom back in three & a half 
  hours. His wife looked it up on the internet and he said that his sister 
  is taking chemo treatments and is not suppose to be around a leukemia cat, 
  so he didn't want to take the risk.
  Have you ever heard of this? I 
  wonder  what site she saw this on? You could tell that Tom sure was 
  glad to be back. I am really disappointed though. It was really a nice 
  home and big yard with lots of trees.
  Barbara 
  BaassBelinda Sauro 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    
Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can check on him 
occasionally and hear how he is 
doing.The 
instructions below were for the old list, here is where to go to 
unsubscribe:http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemiaorgInstructions 
are way down at the bottom of the page, good luck and thanks for caring 
enough to find Tom a 
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Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[iliviacherie]

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Barbara; My name is Georgette. Your email didnt say were you live. I have a Pet sitting service and I specialize in animals with special needs.  I was a vet Teck.  I also read in your email that your one angel has thryoid problems. My Tafty had thryoid problems and I had the Iodione Treatment done with one injection and a four day stay in the hospital because it is radioative and now your thryoid is back to normal.  And Samson that has Stomatitis. Take him to a Dental Vet that does nothing but dental work on animals and deals with Stomatitis.  Have the pockets of the teeth cleaned out and all the teeth but the four canie in the front left in and put the cat on gold seal.  My Fantasia had Stomatitis when I had all the teeth out except for the four canie and put him on gold seal he never had a nother problem with the Stomatitis.  But make sure they clean the pockets of the teeths out.  My Fantasia was FeLv Positive and it is from that. Fantasia is on the other side now since August 14, 2004.  I looked up Stomatitis in vet medical books and found out what to do. Keep iin touch I use to be a Vet Teck. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:28:25 -0700Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe


> *I have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not any one to trust conpletely.*>  Oh yeah Barbara, it sounds like Tom has steered you to the right group of people! You're definitely one of us! Nina  Barbara Baass wrote:  > *Problem is that I don't have family here and few friends that I have > are not cat lovers.* > *Had a bad experience with cat sitter. She was suppose to come by > twice a day and I came home early and caught her here at around 2:00 > that afternoon. It was suppose to be in the morning and in the > afternoon. I was mad. I had a CRF kitty at the time. I wondered how > long she had been coming by like that, only once a day and my getting > charged twice. I had another sitter and she was great. She wrote down > every thing from the time she came till the time she left. She moved > to Houston though. I only had two kitties then. Now I have 5, so I > have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not any > one to trust conpletely. Mitsy has to have thyroid pills twice a day > and Samson has to have steriod pills every day because of the Stomatitis.* > *Barbara* > * * > > */Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > I live in an apt house & made arrangements with my superâs son to > come in twice a day to feed, water, & clean out the boxes. Heâs > been doing this for me since he was 13 & the advantage is that he > doesnât have to travel, I know his parents make sure he comes up, > and if anything is wrong in the apt., his father would be right > there. He & his parents have my cell phone number & I call every > few days. He also has the name/phone of a friend who came to check > in every few days & would handle any medical emergencies. > > /*/Chris/*/ > > /*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*/  > > -Original Message- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of > *Barbara Baass > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2005 5:53 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe > > **Yes, they more than likely saw what they might have to go > through with the possibility of sickness and decided they didn't > want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may > never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone > is going to die of anyhow.** > > **I guess things happen for a reason. I know Tom gets top quality > food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for sure wouldn't want > Tom in a shelter either.** > > **What do you do when you go out of town for a couple days? Do you > have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. You > really have a lot of them.** > > **Barbara** > > */Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before. Feline > Leukemia is not transmittable to humans. That's the most > ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They probably just didn't > want to deal with the possibility of sickness. > > Tom is better off with you. I mix mine and the negatives are > still negative -- all 3 of them. I donât vaccinate yearly. If > they're immune, they're immune (imho). > > Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots > of love. The rest is details. They have a better life with me > than they'd have on the street or in a shelter. And they're > pampered. They know I love them. > > =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, > Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth > and Alec =^..^= > > Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ > My FeLV Site: > http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ > My Personal Page: > http://www.geociti

Resend: Re Akira...and digest mail

[TatorBunz]

Lisa,
    I'm so sorry...everyone has pretty much said what I would have said. I have shed some tears as I type this to you and the group. I remember when you first joined and ask many questions on how to keep Akira healthy. You are doing the most loving thing by letting her go at home surrounded by love. It is never easy to lose these special furbabies no matter what anyone says to try and make us feel better.
Bless you for being there for her. All the other furangels await for her at the bridge along with my furangels.
If you would like to vent you can email or call me and I will listen to what you have to say. Please be positive because sometimes we can be bitter and hateful over this. Think of all the future FELV kitties that may come your way for help and love.
You both are in my thoughts and prayers    :(
 
Terrie
(425) 344-6933
 
In a message dated 5/9/2005 11:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank you so much for that..I will tell her...Im sure she will be happy to hear it...That is what she was here for (per herself)..to teach and inspireI am so happy to hear that she helped you (her story) with your kittythat means so much...She is resting peacefully right now...but I dont think it will be longall the light and love helps the passingit means so much to her..thank you everyone!!!
Lisa and the furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
 
 Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
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Re Akira...and digest mail

[anzajaguar]

Hi guys,
 dont know what is going on but I get the digest and there are a lot 
of post that are directed to me and Akira that come in the digest with no 
message..it just says   
 
Message: 2Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:33:05 -0400From: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: AkiraTo: 
Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1"Skipped content of type 
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in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / 
Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/2005
So if anyone has an messages for me please email me privately so I get 
them
 
Lisa and the 
furbratsAkira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and 
Anza

RE: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[Helene Hand]

Jenn, 
please tell me about Innova EVO.  Helene

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 1:31 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Innova EVO, anyone else 
  made the switch yet? (OT)
  For the first week of it's release, all anyone had was the 
  small bags. Try calling around now, my local vet got the bigger bags in this 
  past Thursday.
   
  I'm not sure what Mythic is allergic to, I never did the 
  entire allergy panel testing on him, but this seems to be helping, and IF it 
  cures him, I WILL know it was the grains!
   
  My "sensitive" guy puked it back up and had the runs for the 
  first 3 days, but he soon adjusted, and seems very happy with it now. I 
  probably did the switch too quickly, but I didn't want to buy another bag of 
  the old stuff, so I just immediately did it 1/2 and 1/2 instead of going in 
  smaller increments. He's right here beside me now, happy as can be, looking 
  completely satisfied.
  Jenn
   
  ~~~I've 
  gotten a couple of bags too.  Unfortunately, the only size bag 
  available around here seems to be the 2lb for $8.  I'll have to 
  special order anything larger.  Everyone seems to love it.  I've 
  been putting small bowls of it next to their regular dry, (Solid Gold), 
  and they go for it as if I've put out canned tuna!  Getting rid of 
  all the unnecessary grains has got to be better for them.  I wish 
  they had left out the fruit and veggies too, but oh well.  I still 
  can't let Gypsy, (my IBD girl), have any dry, she has to stay exclusively 
  on raw.  It certainly is making me feel better about feeding dry to 
  my other furballs though.If your "bald food-allergy" cat, (poor 
  baby), is allergic to grain, then it makes sense that he's (?) doing 
  better. 

Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[felv]

For the first week of it's release, all anyone had was the 
small bags. Try calling around now, my local vet got the bigger bags in this 
past Thursday.
 
I'm not sure what Mythic is allergic to, I never did the 
entire allergy panel testing on him, but this seems to be helping, and IF it 
cures him, I WILL know it was the grains!
 
My "sensitive" guy puked it back up and had the runs for the 
first 3 days, but he soon adjusted, and seems very happy with it now. I probably 
did the switch too quickly, but I didn't want to buy another bag of the old 
stuff, so I just immediately did it 1/2 and 1/2 instead of going in smaller 
increments. He's right here beside me now, happy as can be, looking completely 
satisfied.
Jenn
 
~~~I've 
gotten a couple of bags too.  Unfortunately, the only size bag 
available around here seems to be the 2lb for $8.  I'll have to special 
order anything larger.  Everyone seems to love it.  I've been 
putting small bowls of it next to their regular dry, (Solid Gold), and they 
go for it as if I've put out canned tuna!  Getting rid of all the 
unnecessary grains has got to be better for them.  I wish they had left 
out the fruit and veggies too, but oh well.  I still can't let Gypsy, 
(my IBD girl), have any dry, she has to stay exclusively on raw.  It 
certainly is making me feel better about feeding dry to my other 
furballs though.If your "bald food-allergy" cat, (poor baby), is 
allergic to grain, then it makes sense that he's (?) doing better. 

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Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Nina]

Michelle,
What happened with Ginger at the internist's yesterday?  
Sending healing prayers to Ginger, Fern and Pepsi,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you! I put it on my list to ask the internist tomorrow!
<>Michelle 

Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[Nina]

Jenn,
So, you're not only an exemplary cat-mom, your an excellent girlfriend
too!  

I'm sorry to hear about Moogie and her Momma.  What were Moogie's
complications?  I lost my Jazz at 18 mos too.  I'm guessing the fur-mom
of my pos litter also died.  Before I knew their status, I used to
wonder what kind of cold-blooded person would dump a box of 2 1/2 week
old babies.  How much trouble is it to let mom take care of them until
they're weaned?  After I found out about the FeLV, I figured Momma must
have died.  So sad.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Thanks!! I try. Not easy with a
full time job, and a boyfriend in two bands that I have to get to
practices and gigs and be a roadie for!
   
  Since I'm re-replying to this thread, I'd just
like to add that I had a negative household, then I took in a stray who
was positive, and she had positive kittens. The stray died, but I kept
one of the kittens (Moogie), and she lived in my household for 18
months (until she died) with my negatives, including Doobie, who was
her surrogate "mamma" and cleaned her butt and everything, and NONE of
my negative cats have EVER tested positive, with NO separation of any
kind between them and the positive cats who have been here. Like I
said, the chances of a healthy adult cat getting FELV are slim to none,
and I'm speaking from professional studies AND personal experience.
   
  Jenn
   
  ~~~
"Did you check out Jenn's website.  Damn, 
she spent a lot of time putting that together, (you go girl!)."
  

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Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[felv]

Thanks!! I try. Not easy with a full time job, 
and a boyfriend in two bands that I have to get to practices and gigs and be a 
roadie for!
 
Since I'm re-replying to this thread, I'd just like to add 
that I had a negative household, then I took in a stray who was positive, and 
she had positive kittens. The stray died, but I kept one of the kittens 
(Moogie), and she lived in my household for 18 months (until she died) with my 
negatives, including Doobie, who was her surrogate "mamma" and cleaned her butt 
and everything, and NONE of my negative cats have EVER tested positive, with NO 
separation of any kind between them and the positive cats who have been here. 
Like I said, the chances of a healthy adult cat getting FELV are slim to none, 
and I'm speaking from professional studies AND personal experience.
 
Jenn
 
~~~"Did 
you check out Jenn's website.  Damn, she spent a lot of time putting 
that together, (you go girl!)."
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Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[Nina]

Hi JennK,
Oh, we're definitely keeping them separate until the vaccine kicks in,
I was mostly wondering if it was safe after that, cause I'm hoping
Tessa lives a very long time, and am not looking forward to keeping
her in the one room all that time. :-)>
I wish I could reassure you that there is NO risk in mixing.  I've just 
decided that with all the other risks that come with being alive, I'd 
rather take my chances and have as harmonious a lifestyle as possible.  
I also give my positives supervised time in the backyard everyday.  A 
definite no no because I maintain a feral colony and I know they 
frequent my yard at night.  It's possible that my + could pick something 
up, but it's another chance I've decided to take because they love their 
outside jaunts so much.

:-) Midnight is infamous for her hatred of screens - she destroys them
regularly.  We have to watch her constantly when windows are open in
our house, or she scratches her way outside.>
Your Midnight sounds like quite a character!  I guess you'd have to get 
one of those heavy metal security screen doors!

She hasn't had any other symptoms, but she sneezed once at the vet,
and with the slightly elevated temp they wanted to make sure she
wasn't sick before they gave the shot, I guess? She's been fine,
since.>
I really like the sound of your vet.  He's absolutely right to not vaccinate someone with ANY symptoms.  

>Just the human versions of the supplements? Or is there somewhere to 
get cat versions? How much of each?>

I use the human versions.  I also bought a cat multi vitamin by 
Vetri-Science called Nu-Cat.  I don't know how much good the Vita C 
does, actually, I don't know how much good any of it does, but it can't 
hurt and it makes me feel like I'm doing something to help their immune 
system stay strong.  I used to give them the sups everyday, but they 
started to refuse their food.  Now I give them a few times a week, or if 
I see behavior that indicates they aren't feeling perfect.  Kerry 
usually sends out an email full of good info about diet and supplements, 
has she sent it to you yet?  Did you check out Jenn's website.  Damn, 
she spent a lot of time putting that together, (you go girl!).  The 
Transfer Factor is something that 'Sally from San Jose' turned me on 
to.  So far, I've gotten it through her, I'm pretty sure there are other 
list members who have been using it.

Nina

Re: OT: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[Sheila208]

We live 50 miles from Myrtle Beach, SC and once a year we go there for a week. I have a neighbor I trust to come over every night to take care of my babies needs. My husband likes to sleep late when we are there so I get up early everyday and drive the 50 miles home to see my babies and spend a little time with them. Then I drive back to the beach. My family thinks I'm crazy but I couldn't enjoy my day if I didn't get to see there faces at least once a day. I also leave my answering machine on loud so I can call and they can here my voice. I can't bring myself to travel anywhere I would have to stay more than a day without seeing them. I guess my family is right. Sheila
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Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[jenmeyer]

I've also just switched over to the EVO completely...but I'm still
waiting to see what effect it has on the "contents of the litter box!" 
:)  I vaguely recall that one of two of our guys didn't do so well on
the original Innova (loose poops)...and I seem to be running into the
same problem with the EVO (let's just say that it's a good thing that
the litter boxes are either covered or high-walled!)...I even did the
gradual switch thing, but it didn't seem to help out the
sensitive-boweled ones...I'll wait through this bag to see if the
situation gets any better, but if it doesn't, I'll have to switch back
to Wellness as I've never had a problem with their dry food!  The cats
will be disappointed, though...they absolutely love the EVO (in fact,
they're starting to ignore the canned and raw food in anticipation of
the dry food...Lola, who usually waits to beg for the dry food at night,
has started pleading for it the minute I get out of bed...I feel like my
Mom sometimes, "You have to eat your canned food BEFORE you get the
dry!")  :)


- Original Message -
From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:11 am
Subject: Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

> Jenn,
> I've gotten a couple of bags too.  Unfortunately, the only size bag 
> available around here seems to be the 2lb for $8.  I'll have to 
> special 
> order anything larger.  Everyone seems to love it.  I've been 
> putting 
> small bowls of it next to their regular dry, (Solid Gold), and they 
> go 
> for it as if I've put out canned tuna!  Getting rid of all the 
> unnecessary grains has got to be better for them.  I wish they had 
> left 
> out the fruit and veggies too, but oh well.  I still can't let 
> Gypsy, 
> (my IBD girl), have any dry, she has to stay exclusively on raw.  
> It 
> certainly is making me feel better about feeding dry to my other 
> furballs though.
> 
> If your "bald food-allergy" cat, (poor baby), is allergic to grain, 
> then 
> it makes sense that he's (?) doing better. 
> Nina
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have just completed the switch-over to the new Innova EVO cat 
> food, 
> > and I think they really are going to do great on it. Maybe it's 
> all in 
> > my head, but I THINK the bald food-allergy cat is already growing 
> back 
> > some HAIR! Has anyone else switched their cats' food over to the 
> EVO 
> > yet? And if so, have you noticed anything amazing yet? Just 
> curious 
> > because I THINK it was on THIS list where I first heard about it 
> a 
> > couple of weeks ago now. I'm just glad it's still under $40 for a 
> 15 
> > pound bag, I think it came to $36.50 here! Time will tell if it's 
> > worth it or not, but I REALLY think Mythic is scratching less and 
> > looks a bit "furrier" than he did 3 weeks ago.
> >
> > Jenn
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[Nina]

Jenn,
I've gotten a couple of bags too.  Unfortunately, the only size bag 
available around here seems to be the 2lb for $8.  I'll have to special 
order anything larger.  Everyone seems to love it.  I've been putting 
small bowls of it next to their regular dry, (Solid Gold), and they go 
for it as if I've put out canned tuna!  Getting rid of all the 
unnecessary grains has got to be better for them.  I wish they had left 
out the fruit and veggies too, but oh well.  I still can't let Gypsy, 
(my IBD girl), have any dry, she has to stay exclusively on raw.  It 
certainly is making me feel better about feeding dry to my other 
furballs though.

If your "bald food-allergy" cat, (poor baby), is allergic to grain, then 
it makes sense that he's (?) doing better. 
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just completed the switch-over to the new Innova EVO cat food, 
and I think they really are going to do great on it. Maybe it's all in 
my head, but I THINK the bald food-allergy cat is already growing back 
some HAIR! Has anyone else switched their cats' food over to the EVO 
yet? And if so, have you noticed anything amazing yet? Just curious 
because I THINK it was on THIS list where I first heard about it a 
couple of weeks ago now. I'm just glad it's still under $40 for a 15 
pound bag, I think it came to $36.50 here! Time will tell if it's 
worth it or not, but I REALLY think Mythic is scratching less and 
looks a bit "furrier" than he did 3 weeks ago.

Jenn

OT: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

You're definitely one of us!<
You bet. I am dreading going away in July---it's to see my parents in
the UK who are unable to travel any more, and my sisters, nieces,
nephews, old friends, etc etc and I should be really looking forward to
it--but I'm far too worried about how my cats will be looked after (or
otherwise) by the (as yet unknown) catsitter.
I fired the last petsitter. I caught her out--she wasn't giving the
supplements to the positives (I counted the supps before I went away and
counted them after I got back, then asked her --without telling her I'd
counted them--why there seemed to be too many left...oh boy, did the
lies trip off her tongue. When she realized the game was up, she caved
in totally. I never would have even thought of "setting a trap" in the
past, but when it comes to my furballs). And I'm darn sure she
wasn't coming twice a day, as she was being paid to do.
I'm now of the mind that I'm only going to have the petsitter I choose
come once a day. It certainly isn't what I want, but I am convinced that
that's how many of them operate. Short of having a nanny camera (that
they know about!) there's no way to enforce it. :>(
Any ideas most welcome. Also ideas on interviewing petsitters. In the
past I've explained what I needed. Now, I'm going to ask how they
operate. See if I like what they say or not.
Kerry


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe


 > *I have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not 
any one to trust conpletely.*>

Oh yeah Barbara, it sounds like Tom has steered you to the right group 
of people! You're definitely one of us!
Nina

Barbara Baass wrote:

> *Problem is that I don't have family here and few friends that I have 
> are not cat lovers.*
> *Had a bad experience with cat sitter. She was suppose to come by 
> twice a day and I came home early and caught her here at around 2:00 
> that afternoon. It was suppose to be in the morning and in the 
> afternoon. I was mad. I had a CRF kitty at the time. I wondered how 
> long she had been coming by like that, only once a day and my getting 
> charged twice. I had another sitter and she was great. She wrote down 
> every thing from the time she came till the time she left. She moved 
> to Houston though. I only had two kitties then. Now I have 5, so I 
> have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not any 
> one to trust conpletely. Mitsy has to have thyroid pills twice a day 
> and Samson has to have steriod pills every day because of the
Stomatitis.*
> *Barbara*
> * *
>
> */Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> I live in an apt house & made arrangements with my super's son to
> come in twice a day to feed, water, & clean out the boxes. He's
> been doing this for me since he was 13 & the advantage is that he
> doesn't have to travel, I know his parents make sure he comes up,
> and if anything is wrong in the apt., his father would be right
> there. He & his parents have my cell phone number & I call every
> few days. He also has the name/phone of a friend who came to check
> in every few days & would handle any medical emergencies.
>
> /*/Chris/*/
>
> /*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*/ 
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
> *Barbara Baass
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2005 5:53 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
>
> **Yes, they more than likely saw what they might have to go
> through with the possibility of sickness and decided they didn't
> want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may
> never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone
> is going to die of anyhow.**
>
> **I guess things happen for a reason. I know Tom gets top quality
> food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for sure wouldn't want
> Tom in a shelter either.**
>
> **What do you do when you go out of town for a couple days? Do you
> have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. You
> really have a lot of them.**
>
> **Barbara**
>
> */Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before. Feline
> Leukemia is not transmittable to humans. That's the most
> ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They probably just didn't
> want to deal with the possibility of sickness.
>
> Tom is better off with you. I mix mine and the negatives are
> still negative -- all 3 of them. I don't vaccinate yearly. If
> they're immune, they're immune (imho).
>
> Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots
> of love. The rest is detail

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[Nina]

> *I have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not 
any one to trust conpletely.*>

Oh yeah Barbara, it sounds like Tom has steered you to the right group 
of people! You're definitely one of us!
Nina

Barbara Baass wrote:
*Problem is that I don't have family here and few friends that I have 
are not cat lovers.*
*Had a bad experience with cat sitter. She was suppose to come by 
twice a day and I came home early and caught her here at around 2:00 
that afternoon. It was suppose to be in the morning and in the 
afternoon. I was mad. I had a CRF kitty at the time. I wondered how 
long she had been coming by like that, only once a day and my getting 
charged twice. I had another sitter and she was great. She wrote down 
every thing from the time she came till the time she left. She moved 
to Houston though. I only had two kitties then. Now I have 5, so I 
have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not any 
one to trust conpletely. Mitsy has to have thyroid pills twice a day 
and Samson has to have steriod pills every day because of the Stomatitis.*
*Barbara*
* *

*/Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
I live in an apt house & made arrangements with my super’s son to
come in twice a day to feed, water, & clean out the boxes. He’s
been doing this for me since he was 13 & the advantage is that he
doesn’t have to travel, I know his parents make sure he comes up,
and if anything is wrong in the apt., his father would be right
there. He & his parents have my cell phone number & I call every
few days. He also has the name/phone of a friend who came to check
in every few days & would handle any medical emergencies.
/*/Chris/*/
/*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*/ 
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*Barbara Baass
*Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2005 5:53 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
**Yes, they more than likely saw what they might have to go
through with the possibility of sickness and decided they didn't
want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may
never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone
is going to die of anyhow.**
**I guess things happen for a reason. I know Tom gets top quality
food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for sure wouldn't want
Tom in a shelter either.**
**What do you do when you go out of town for a couple days? Do you
have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. You
really have a lot of them.**
**Barbara**
*/Terri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before. Feline
Leukemia is not transmittable to humans. That's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They probably just didn't
want to deal with the possibility of sickness.
Tom is better off with you. I mix mine and the negatives are
still negative -- all 3 of them. I don’t vaccinate yearly. If
they're immune, they're immune (imho).
Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots
of love. The rest is details. They have a better life with me
than they'd have on the street or in a shelter. And they're
pampered. They know I love them.
=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth
and Alec =^..^=
Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site:
http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page:
http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350
- Original Message -
*From:* Barbara Baass 
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

*Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2005 7:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe
**Thanks for the information. Guess I will be on for
awhile longer. They brought Tom back in three & a half
hours. His wife looked it up on the internet and he said
that his sister is taking chemo treatments and is not
suppose to be around a leukemia cat, so he didn't want to
take the risk.**
**Have you ever heard of this? I wonder what site she saw
this on? You could tell that Tom sure was glad to be back.
I am really disappointed though. It was really a nice home
and big yard with lots of trees.**
**Barbara Baass**
*/Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can
check on him occasionally and hear how he is doing.

Re: OT: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!

[Sandy]

Finally a judge with some common sense!!
Sandy, Shades, tribyl, and spike
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: OT: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!


> It is about darn time
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> >vote so it's clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life
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> >worth at least this much.
> >
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RE: OT: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!

[Faye Lewis]

It is about darn time

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  Hi All,
  Here is an award handed out by a local judge in Seattle, even if you 
don't live here please vote.  There's a poll on the page -- take a sec and 
vote so it's clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life is 
worth at least this much.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002268301_yofi09m.html
--
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Happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
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RE: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[Chris]

Before I started using my super’s
on, I had called someone I knew who does informal rescue but also boards dogs
& house sits dogs…She could not help me (too booked), but I found
there is sort of a ‘network’ of pet sitters, dog walkers, etc. who
are all comfortable using each other for their own pets when needed.  This
person hooked me up with someone who I ultimately did not use but whose name I
gave to a friend with cats.  That friend used this pet sitter for years
& was thrilled.  Suggestion, if you can talk to your original sitter,
the one who moved to Houston, she might have some names for you that you’d never find
anywhere else….

 



Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:44
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: for Barbara (Baass)
re unsubscribe

 



Problem is that I don't have family here and few friends that I
have are not cat lovers.





Had a bad experience with cat sitter. She was suppose to come by
twice a day and I came home early and caught her here at around 2:00 that
afternoon. It was suppose to be in the morning and in the afternoon. I was mad.
I had a CRF kitty at the time. I wondered how long she had been coming by like
that, only once a day and my getting charged twice.  I had another sitter
and she was great. She wrote down every thing from the time she came till the
time she left. She moved to Houston though. I only had two kitties then.
Now I have 5, so I have not been any where over night for 7 years. There
is just not any one to trust conpletely. Mitsy has to have thyroid pills twice
a day and Samson has to have steriod pills every day because of the Stomatitis.





Barbara





 

Chris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





I live in an apt house
& made arrangements with my super’s son to come in twice a day to
feed, water, & clean out the boxes.  He’s been doing this for me
since he was 13 & the advantage is that he doesn’t have to travel, I
know his parents make sure he comes up, and if anything is wrong in the apt.,
his father would be right there.  He & his parents have my cell phone
number & I call every few days.  He also has the name/phone of a
friend who came to check in every few days & would handle any medical
emergencies.  

 



Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass)
re unsubscribe

 



Yes,
they more than likely saw what they might have to go through with the
possibility of sickness and decided they didn't want to do that. I explained to
them that it wasn't active and may never be and then it may. I told them you never
know what anyone is going to die of anyhow.





I
guess things happen for a reason. I know Tom gets top quality food here and I
noticed they had Iams. I for sure wouldn't want Tom in a shelter either.





What
do you do when you go out of town for a couple days? Do you have a sitter come
in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. You really have a lot of them.





Barbara

Terri Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this
before.  Feline Leukemia is not transmittable to humans.  That's the
most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  They probably just didn't want to
deal with the possibility of sickness.





 





Tom is better off with you.  I mix mine and the
negatives are still negative -- all 3 of them.  I don’t vaccinate
yearly.  If they're immune, they're immune (imho).





 





Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food
and lots of love.  The rest is details.  They have a better life with
me than they'd have on the street or in a shelter.  And they're
pampered.  They know I love them.





 





=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire,
Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and
Alec =^..^=





 





Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/
My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350







- Original Message - 





From: Barbara Baass






To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
09, 2005 7:44 AM





Subject: Re: for
Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe





 







Thanks for the information. Guess I will be on for awhile
longer. They brought Tom back in three & a half hours. His wife looked it
up on the internet and he said that his sister is taking chemo treatments and
is not suppose to be around a leukemia cat, so he didn't want to take the risk.





Have you ever heard of this? I wonder  what site she saw
this on? You could tell that Tom sure was glad to be back. I am really
disappointed though. It was really a nice home and big yard with lots of trees.





Barbara Baas

RE: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!

[Joan Doljan]

Me too!"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Done and have fwded to cat-loving pals. Kerry

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda SauroSent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:07 PMTo: FeLV Talk List [New]Subject: OT: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!   Hi All,    Here is an award handed out by a local judge in Seattle, even if you don't live here please vote.  There's a poll on the page -- take a sec and vote so it's clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life is worth at least this much.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002268301_yofi09m.html -- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
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RE: Cat's Life & Death - Let's make it count!!

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

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Done 
and have fwded to cat-loving pals. Kerry

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On Behalf Of Belinda SauroSent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:07 
PMTo: FeLV Talk List [New]Subject: OT: Cat's Life & 
Death - Let's make it 
count!!   Hi All,    Here is 
an award handed out by a local judge in Seattle, even if you don't live here 
please vote.  There's a poll on the page -- take a sec and vote so it's 
clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life is worth at least 
this much.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002268301_yofi09m.html 
-- 
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Akira

[Barbara Lowe]

Lisa,

  I am so sorry. We are never ready for their time 
  when it comes. I hope the passing is peaceful. I am glad for you that you 
  found her and knew such love. 
  blessed be,
  Barbara

Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[Jennifer Korin]

Thank you, Chris, that's very reassuring!

Jenn K

> Well, she's been around my other 3 cats for all her life & they were never
> vaccinated. They were all neg & I vaccinate them every year & mix everybody
> including Big Boy, the adult stray I brought in.  I think that the pos are
> probably more at risk of catching something from the other cats then they
> are of catching FELV from them

Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[Jennifer Korin]

Hi, other Jenn! ;-)

Thanks for the links and advice.  I had thought FeLV was very
contagious, but from your post, it seems less likely that Midnight
will contract it.  I am really attached to Tess already, but I really
don't want anything to happen to Midnight if I can help it cause it
would break my daughter's heart!

I really hope she turns negative as you mentioned, but I guess the vet
says her chances of that are slim cause she was positive on the IFA? 
But like I said to the vet, it's a good week for long shots!

Jenn K

> I would not worry about mixing this kitten with your cat because of her
> FELV+ status, however, I WOULD keep them separate until the kitten's Upper
> Respiratory Infection clears up, because those are VERY contagious. The
> chances of a healthy non-immune suppressed adult cat contracting FELV from
> another cat is less than 1%, in fact, it's never been proven to be possible
> at all. All of the known cases of FELV transmission have occurred in kittens
> under a year of age, or cats with immune suppression, such as FIV+ cats who
> are then exposed to FELV. Still, just to be extra safe, and for peace of
> mind, I would go ahead and give your older cat the vaccine before allowing
> them to mix, that way you can be sure the immunity exists.

Re: Advice for a Newbie Appreciated

[Jennifer Korin]

Hi Nina,

> Tessa sounds like a darling.  I know it's tough to keep them separated,
> but you'll feel better about
> making sure you've taken the necessary precautions.  

Oh, we're definitely keeping them seperate until the vaccine kicks in,
I was mostly wondering if it was safe after that, cause I'm hoping
Tessa lives a very long time, and am not looking forward to keeping
her in the one room all that time. :-)

> I'm not quite clear on what the seclusion arrangements are at your
> house.  Does Midnight have the run of the house, except your daughter's
> room, or is she sequestered in another room as well? 

No, Midnight has the run of the house except OUR room.  She generally
prefers my daughter's room (and the kitchen), so I didn't think it
would be a problem, but apparently she doesn't like the closed door
and has decided that she has to be in our room. (Until Tess came, she
never bothered with our room, as long as my daughter wasn't in there.)

> your daughter belongs to Midnight

:-) Good way of putting it, lol!

> It might help to install a screen door in the bedroom where
> you have Tess confined.  That way she won't feel so isolated and
> Midnight can see what's going on.  

:-) Midnight is infamous for her hatred of screens - she destroys them
regularly.  We have to watch her constantly when windows are open in
our house, or she scratches her way outside.  Good thought, though.

> Why was Midnight running a temp when you took her to be tested and
> vaccinated?  What was her temp?  Does she have any other symptoms of
> illness?

I don't know, the vet said it was slight, and I think they wanted to
make sure she hadn't caught Tessa's cold before they vaccinated her? 
She hasn't had any other symptoms, but she sneezed once at the vet,
and with the slightly elevated temp they wanted to make sure she
wasn't sick before they gave the shot, I guess? She's been fine,
since.
 
> Vita C is good to add as an immune booster.  I also add L-Lysine,
> occasionally Co-Q10, and if someone isn't feeling well, I'll add
> Transfer Factor to their food.  The interferon that your vet is talking
> about, (sounds like a good vet by the way!), is Interferon A, or human
> interferon.  There is also something called Feline Interferon Omega,
> that a couple of us on the list have tried.  More about that later, if
> you're interested.
 
Just the human versions of the supplements? Or is there somewhere to
get cat versions?  How much of each?

Thanks so much for all your input!
Jenn K

Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[Belinda Sauro]

the other option is to just get an rv and take the cats WITH you  -- that's the 
only option I would consider :)
Hubby goes to vegas every year for 3 or 4 days, I stay home with the cats.
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Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[sandy kuplis]

Hi,
I just tried to switch my diabetic kitty who also has IBD and he really 
liked the food but his
stomach didnt.   Maybe he ate it too fast, but I will have to watch more 
closely and see if he can
tolerate it.  They want Shades on it for the diabetes but we dont want the 
IBD to flare up.
Will keep you posted.

Sandy, Shades, Tribyl, Spike and Angel Houdindi
From: Barbara Baass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 04:50:34 -0700 (PDT)
I have just switched to Innova Roasted Chicken and then I also got some 
Felidae. I wonder which one is best? How about this Balance one?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have just completed the switch-over to the new Innova 
EVO cat food, and I think they really are going to do great on it. Maybe 
it's all in my head, but I THINK the bald food-allergy cat is already 
growing back some HAIR! Has anyone else switched their cats' food over to 
the EVO yet? And if so, have you noticed anything amazing yet? Just curious 
because I THINK it was on THIS list where I first heard about it a couple of 
weeks ago now. I'm just glad it's still under $40 for a 15 pound bag, I 
think it came to $36.50 here! Time will tell if it's worth it or not, but I 
REALLY think Mythic is scratching less and looks a bit "furrier" than he did 
3 weeks ago.

Jenn
~~~
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[Barbara Baass]

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Re: Innova EVO, anyone else made the switch yet? (OT)

[Barbara Baass]

I have just switched to Innova Roasted Chicken and then I also got some Felidae. I wonder which one is best? How about this Balance one?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I have just completed the switch-over to the new Innova EVO cat food, and I think they really are going to do great on it. Maybe it's all in my head, but I THINK the bald food-allergy cat is already growing back some HAIR! Has anyone else switched their cats' food over to the EVO yet? And if so, have you noticed anything amazing yet? Just curious because I THINK it was on THIS list where I first heard about it a couple of weeks ago now. I'm just glad it's still under $40 for a 15 pound bag, I think it came to $36.50 here! Time will tell if it's worth it or not, but I REALLY think Mythic is scratching less and looks a bit "furrier" than he did 3 weeks ago.
Jenn
 
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RE: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

[Barbara Baass]

Problem is that I don't have family here and few friends that I have are not cat lovers.
Had a bad experience with cat sitter. She was suppose to come by twice a day and I came home early and caught her here at around 2:00 that afternoon. It was suppose to be in the morning and in the afternoon. I was mad. I had a CRF kitty at the time. I wondered how long she had been coming by like that, only once a day and my getting charged twice.  I had another sitter and she was great. She wrote down every thing from the time she came till the time she left. She moved to Houston though. I only had two kitties then. Now I have 5, so I have not been any where over night for 7 years. There is just not any one to trust conpletely. Mitsy has to have thyroid pills twice a day and Samson has to have steriod pills every day because of the Stomatitis.
Barbara
 Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





I live in an apt house & made arrangements with my super’s son to come in twice a day to feed, water, & clean out the boxes.  He’s been doing this for me since he was 13 & the advantage is that he doesn’t have to travel, I know his parents make sure he comes up, and if anything is wrong in the apt., his father would be right there.  He & his parents have my cell phone number & I call every few days.  He also has the name/phone of a friend who came to check in every few days & would handle any medical emergencies.  
 

Chris
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Yes, they more than likely saw what they might have to go through with the possibility of sickness and decided they didn't want to do that. I explained to them that it wasn't active and may never be and then it may. I told them you never know what anyone is going to die of anyhow.

I guess things happen for a reason. I know Tom gets top quality food here and I noticed they had Iams. I for sure wouldn't want Tom in a shelter either.

What do you do when you go out of town for a couple days? Do you have a sitter come in? I thought I had a lot (5) of them. You really have a lot of them.

BarbaraTerri Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Umm, yes -- I've heard lame excuses like this before.  Feline Leukemia is not transmittable to humans.  That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  They probably just didn't want to deal with the possibility of sickness.

 

Tom is better off with you.  I mix mine and the negatives are still negative -- all 3 of them.  I don’t vaccinate yearly.  If they're immune, they're immune (imho).

 

Some may argue this point -- I believe in good food and lots of love.  The rest is details.  They have a better life with me than they'd have on the street or in a shelter.  And they're pampered.  They know I love them.

 

=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=

 

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Subject: Re: for Barbara (Baass) re unsubscribe

 


Thanks for the information. Guess I will be on for awhile longer. They brought Tom back in three & a half hours. His wife looked it up on the internet and he said that his sister is taking chemo treatments and is not suppose to be around a leukemia cat, so he didn't want to take the risk.

Have you ever heard of this? I wonder  what site she saw this on? You could tell that Tom sure was glad to be back. I am really disappointed though. It was really a nice home and big yard with lots of trees.

Barbara BaassBelinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Barbara, this is great news about Tom, I hope you can check on him occasionally and hear how he is doing.The instructions below were for the old list, here is where to go to unsubscribe:http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemiaorgInstructions are way down at the bottom of the page, good luck and thanks for caring enough to find Tom a home!!---If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,send the following command in email to<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:    unsubscribeOr you can send mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the followingcommand in the body of your email message:    unsubscribe felvtalkor from another account, besides [EMAIL PROTECTED]:    unsubscribe felvtalk [EMAIL PROTECTED]If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list,(if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about thelist itself) send email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .This is the general rule for most