RE: housing/fostering of FeLV+ cats

2005-07-20 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, When I was working I kept the number down to 18. am now down to four
(4). Now that I am retired, wheelchair bound, my max is six (6).
Thank you for the Pat on the Back.
The good news is when I had one of my cats at the vet today he told me
that very few FeLV+ cats show up anymore. And their clinic will NOT put
down a FeLV+ cat that is not sick. One reason for this might be that
people with Indoor Only cats are getting the vaccine against it, It
would be great if this downturn were to spread coast to coast.




RE: postings

2005-07-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I haven't seen any postings at all lately - and I have a problem with
other list, too, just wanted to double check if something is wrong with
my computer..




RE: postings

2005-07-20 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
They have been far and few bewtween coming my way Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't seen any postings at all lately - and I have a problem withother list, too, just wanted to double check if something is wrong withmy computer..Have a purrfect day
Cherie


RE: postings

2005-07-20 Thread Barb Moermond
I doubt it's your computer, the list has just been slow the last few days.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't seen any postings at all lately - and I have a problem withother list, too, just wanted to double check if something is wrong withmy computer..Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

Re: postings

2005-07-20 Thread Del Daniels



Right, nothing happening ... probably a good thing 
:)
Prayers for all of our kitties to be doing 
okay.

Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barb 
  Moermond 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:22 
  PM
  Subject: RE: postings
  
  I doubt it's your computer, the list has just been slow the last few 
  days.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  I 
haven't seen any postings at all lately - and I have a problem withother 
list, too, just wanted to double check if something is wrong withmy 
computer..Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El 
  Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should 
  impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
  - Anonymous
  
  
  Start 
  your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 


Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread jenmeyer
I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is a
little slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it)  :) ...Our
boys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd!  :)  Not
too shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus!  :)

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George




Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Barb Moermond
WOOWOO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is alittle slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it) :) ...Ourboys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd! :) Nottoo shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus! :)Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorgeBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito
 Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
		 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

RE: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Chris
Better than not too shabby--happy birthday to the guys!

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Our boys' B-day!

I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is a
little slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it)  :) ...Our
boys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd!  :)  Not
too shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus!  :)

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George







RE: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Doljan, Joan
Jen,

Congratulations to all!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Our boys' B-day!


I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is a
little slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it)  :) ...Our boys,
Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd!  :)  Not too shabby
for a couple of guys born with the virus!  :)

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each
other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do
not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George




Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Sheila208
Happy B-day boys. birthdays are great.


Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
HERE HERE HAPPY BIRTHDAY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Happy B-day boys. birthdays are great. Have a purrfect day
Cherie


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Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Del Daniels



Happy Birthday Sleepypants and Ewok, may you have 
many more!
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:18 
  PM
  Subject: Our boys' B-day!
  I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the 
  list is alittle slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it) :) 
  ...Ourboys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd! 
  :) Nottoo shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus! 
  :)Jen"But 
  if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in 
  all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome 
  responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
  deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you 
  and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not 
  know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one 
  destroys." --Chief DanGeorge


Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Nina
Such wonderful news.  Yippee!  Happy birthday to Sleepypants and Ewok!!  
Sending much love to your babies from me and mine, (Timmy and Grace were 
also born with Felv).  Thank you for sharing early!  Give those little 
sweeties a big birthday nuzzle from me!

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is a
little slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it)  :) ...Our
boys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd!  :)  Not
too shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus!  :)

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de
Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan
George




 







Re: OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek

2005-07-20 Thread MIRIAM BEBITCH
Sorry to hear about the kitties. I have had some kittens that died from it. 
I have learned alot though. Kittens can overcome panleuk, but they have to 
be kept very hydrated. I would get a bag of fluids and small needles from 
the vet, and administer subcutaneously just between the shoulder blades. 
Also, a great product to use for any dehydrated cats and kittens is 
Pedialyte (unflavored, of course). Just syringe it orally as much as they 
can tolerate and repeat, repeat, repeat. With panleuk, as well as intestinal 
parasites, the kittens usually wind up dying from dehydration, not the 
actual problem. Also, feed them cooked steamed rice with chicken or turkey 
broth. Baby food is good too, but be careful not to buy baby food with onion 
powder in it. Please tell her to get her other cats vaccinated. Good luck, 
hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek



Hello Everyone,

Poor Sally (from San Jose) is waging a terrible battle with Panleukopenia 
kittens.  The mother and four babies, (about 4 or 5 weeks old) were 
rescued from a back yard situation.  She has already lost two of the 
kittens one of which was diagnosed by a vet with Panleukopenia.  Her 
computer is down and she is desperately seeking help with remedies for 
vomiting, (the poor little guys can't keep the meds down).  They don't 
have diarrhea yet, (do have soft stool), they are starting to refuse food, 
as
of this morning neither had a temp.  So far they have been given 4 doses 
of Arsenicum Album (6c once an hour), they are getting Transfer Factor 
Stress formula and Amoxi, (prescribed by vet) and subq fluids.  Not only 
is she losing these sweet babies one at a time, but the rest of her cats, 
(a whole houseful) are being put in danger.  Anyone that thinks they could 
help,  please write me off-list and I'll send you her phone number, or 
pass on the info.
Say a prayer for the babies, their Momma and the rest of Sally's cats, 
(some of which have not been vaccinated!).

Thanks,
Nina







Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Lisa Roberts
Congrats Jen! That is really wonderful! My littleOllie will be 1 on the 27th of this month and I am delighted! Happy birthday to the boys![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the list is alittle slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it) :) ...Ourboys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd! :) Nottoo shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus! :)Jen"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief
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OT: Pit bull seizures in Denver

2005-07-20 Thread Chris








I
know this is off topic but I remember the discussions we had about pitt
bulls a couple of months ago  wondered if anyone had seen this

__



Denver
Pit Bull Owners in a Panic Over Ban

July
 20, 2005 7:38 PM EDT

DENVER
- A few weeks ago, two police cars and two animal control vehicles pulled up at
the home of Stef'ny Steffen looking for her beloved 4-year-old pit bull, Xena.
Seven officers hauled the animal off to the city shelter, putting her on death
row.

Xena
became an outlaw after Denver won a court fight and reinstated
one of the toughest pit-bull bans in the nation. Since May, more than 380 dogs
have been impounded and at least 260 destroyed - an average of more than three
a day.

Dog
owners are in a panic. Some are using an underground railroad of sorts, sending
their pets to live elsewhere or hiding them from authorities. City officials
would not estimate how many people might be violating the ordinance.

Some
owners, like Steffen, have won a reprieve for their pets with help from a
rescue group. The group got Xena released by signing an affidavit stating that
the animal would never return to Denver. The group took the dog
to Mariah's Promise in Divide, an animal sanctuary that has accepted more than
three dozen pit bulls from Denver.

For
Steffen and her partner, Gina Black, leaving Xena 60 miles from home was a
lousy option but the only one they had.

It's
safer than animal control. Safer than keeping her underground - at least she'll
be able to play now, Steffen said. But she'll miss us. We're her
pack.

Denver
is one of three major metropolitan areas, along with Miami and Cincinnati, to
ban pit bulls, according to Glen Bui, vice president of the American Canine
Foundation.

Pit
bull typically describes three kinds of dogs - the American Pit Bull Terrier,
American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. But Denver's
ban applies to any dog that looks like a pit bull. The animal's actual behavior
does not matter.

City
Councilman Charlie Brown said that in his judgment, pit bulls are trained
to attack. They're bred to do that.

Critics
of the ban use words like annihilation and genocide,
and the city shelter has received e-mails likening animal control officers to
Nazis.

Breed
bans are just a knee-jerk reaction to something that happened in the
community, Bui said.

Denver
banned pit bulls in 1989 after dogs mauled a minister and killed a boy in
separate attacks. The Legislature passed a law in 2004 that prohibited
breed-specific bans, but the city sued and a judge ruled in April the law was
an unconstitutional violation of local control.

Critics
of the ordinance say that a blanket ban on an entire breed is misguided that
the law should instead target irresponsible owners and all dangerous dogs.

If
anyone says one dog is more likely to kill - unless there's a study out there
that I haven't seen - that's not based on scientific data, said Julie
Gilchrist, a doctor at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
who researches dog bites.

The
CDC, the American Veterinary Medical Association and the Humane Society of the United
  States examined 20 years of dog-bite data and concluded that pit bulls and
Rottweilers caused the most deaths.

But
the researchers also noted that fatal attacks represent a small proportion of
dog-bite injuries and that the number of bites per breed simply seems to rise
with their popularity.

At
the city shelter, pit bulls are cordoned off from other dogs in what has become
death row. Nearly 100 pit bulls have been released to live outside the county.
A nonresident must guarantee the dog will never return to Denver.

Sonya
Dias, who is moving out of Denver because of the ban, said she
was a little intimidated by her pit bull when she first saw him. But when
I said, `Hey little doggie,' his whole body just started wagging.
Gryffindor is staying at Mariah's Promise until Dias sells her home.

He's
been dangerous to a couple of pairs of shoes and some mini-blinds, Dias
said. But otherwise he's a jewel.

---





Chris

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Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Terri Brown




Yay! Happy Birthday!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:18 
  PM
  Subject: Our boys' B-day!
  I was going to wait to post on the actual day...but since the 
  list is alittle slow (and because I couldn't wait to announce it) :) 
  ...Ourboys, Sleepypants and Ewok, will be 3 years old on the 22nd! 
  :) Nottoo shabby for a couple of guys born with the virus! 
  :)Jen"But 
  if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in 
  all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome 
  responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
  deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you 
  and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not 
  know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one 
  destroys." --Chief DanGeorge


Re: Our boys' B-day!

2005-07-20 Thread Belinda Sauro

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Re: OT - Sally in trouble with Panluek

2005-07-20 Thread Nina

Miriam,
Thank you very much for responding with some suggestions for Sally's 
little babies.  Three of the four kittens have already passed.  The 
fourth is not doing very well either.  It's so heartbreaking.  She has 
been giving subq fluids and assist feeding tiny amounts of formula every 
20 minutes or so.  The last little boy, Trevor is doing better at not 
vomiting the meds and formula back up, so she has hope that he might 
pull through.

Nina

MIRIAM BEBITCH wrote:

Sorry to hear about the kitties. I have had some kittens that died 
from it. I have learned alot though. Kittens can overcome panleuk, but 
they have to be kept very hydrated. I would get a bag of fluids and 
small needles from the vet, and administer subcutaneously just between 
the shoulder blades. Also, a great product to use for any dehydrated 
cats and kittens is Pedialyte (unflavored, of course). Just syringe it 
orally as much as they can tolerate and repeat, repeat, repeat. With 
panleuk, as well as intestinal parasites, the kittens usually wind up 
dying from dehydration, not the actual problem. Also, feed them cooked 
steamed rice with chicken or turkey broth. Baby food is good too, but 
be careful not to buy baby food with onion powder in it. Please tell 
her to get her other cats vaccinated. Good luck, hope this helps.