Euthasol in vein

2005-11-10 Thread Lomaxturtle
I'm glad you mentioned that Jenn - I wasn't sure how much info to leave or not 
but it is an important one. When I had to have Tidge put to sleep the sedatiev 
worked quickly but her veins collapsed as teh sedative causes a drop in blood 
pressure so the vet had to go through her stomache. I can't remember if it was 
blue or pink - my dogs always had blue but for some reason pink stands out in 
my mind for tidge. It took her about 5 mins to pass which seemed like forever. 
She ended up needing another dose which the vet said she couldn't believe it - 
she had teh dose for a dog. She was just about to have her 3rd dose when she 
passed. ALthough sedated and peaceful - it was not pleasant and I pray that all 
future cats manange to have it in their leg. Bramble actually fough the 
sedation and vomited a couple of times with it and then we decided to do the 
euthasol before he got too sleepy as the sedation was interfering with his 
breathing. He was a little sedated and he had the injection in his leg and 
passed very quickly. My dogs Gemma and Deano both had sedation which worked and 
then passed quickly wit hthe injection in their leg. I still wouldn't do a pts 
without sedation despite the negative side affect possibilities.

Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble


Cricket's feeding Tube

2005-11-10 Thread Lomaxturtle
Fingers crossed for Cricket - I hope this works out

Will be waiting with anticipation to hear how he goes on

Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble



Was - Cricket and a feeding tube my Buddies feeding tube :: For Wendy [long]

2005-11-10 Thread Belinda Sauro

Wendy,
   I pray that Cricket is strong enough to make it through the 
surgery.  When my Buddie had cancer and came down with a sepsis 
infection she had to have a feeding tube.  She had it for about 2 1/2 to 
3 months, she grew to absolutely love it.  Once she figured out it made 
her tummy all warm and full she would run to the couch and wait for me 
when she heard me in the kitchen getting her syringes ready.  She would 
lay on the couch will all four feet curled under her (sometimes she 
would sit) and purr while I fed her.  It usually took about 15 to 20 
minutes once we had our routine down.  When we were done she would 
promply flop over on her side and take a snooze.  It was a very bonding 
experience for us.


The second time she got real sick, we thought she had another sepsis 
infection, the symthoms were very similar but not exactly the same.  She 
was not recovering from that as well and we decided she needed another 
tube, she was actually getting jaundice this time.  She was alot sicker 
this time around, but without the tube she had no chance, she hadn't 
eaten hardly anything in about 4 or 5 days.


My vet told me there was a good chance she wouldn't survive the surgery 
this time, and I spent the whole night talking with her and told her if 
she was ready to go home it was OK.  Without the tube she would have 
died a slow painful death from starvation and liver failure, and as hard 
as she was fighting the cancer I had to give her every opportunity 
available (my vet really believed she was not going to survive the first 
sepsis infection, but she did and my vet called her our miracle kitty 
after that).   She did survive the surgery but went into heart failure 
in recovery, they couldn't get her back.


We did an autopsy (necropsy) and turns out she didn't have a sepsis 
infection but the cancer had spread and totally blocked her bile ducts.  
Even if she had survived the tube surgery she wouldn't have lived more  
than a few days and probably in pain, so Buddie made her own decision to 
go home (Buddie always, her whole life did things her way!).


The night we sat up and talked and I told her if she was ready to go 
home it was OK, I would be OK, though of course I wanted her to stay 
longer ... I asked her if she did go to please let me know she was OK.


Three days after she passed the light in the exercise room (Buddies 
favorite room) came on while I was in the kitchen feeding the other 
cats.  Hubby was sleeping and nobody else was in the house.  I know it 
was Buddie letting me know she was home and OK, I smiled, thanked her 
and went to bed.


So even if Cricket doesn't make it and I'm praying with all of my might 
that he does, please know you have done everything possible to give him 
the chance to survive, but ultimately it is his choice to stay or go.  I 
hope he chooses to stay for along, long time!!


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RE: Was - Cricket and a feeding tube my Buddies feeding tube :: For Wendy [long]

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Your story of Buddie is beautiful, Belinda. Thank you so much for
sharing with all of us.
Kerry

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For Wendy [long]


 Wendy,
I pray that Cricket is strong enough to make it through the 
surgery.  When my Buddie had cancer and came down with a sepsis 
infection she had to have a feeding tube.  She had it for about 2 1/2 to

3 months, she grew to absolutely love it.  Once she figured out it made 
her tummy all warm and full she would run to the couch and wait for me 
when she heard me in the kitchen getting her syringes ready.  She would 
lay on the couch will all four feet curled under her (sometimes she 
would sit) and purr while I fed her.  It usually took about 15 to 20 
minutes once we had our routine down.  When we were done she would 
promply flop over on her side and take a snooze.  It was a very bonding 
experience for us.

The second time she got real sick, we thought she had another sepsis 
infection, the symthoms were very similar but not exactly the same.  She

was not recovering from that as well and we decided she needed another 
tube, she was actually getting jaundice this time.  She was alot sicker 
this time around, but without the tube she had no chance, she hadn't 
eaten hardly anything in about 4 or 5 days.

My vet told me there was a good chance she wouldn't survive the surgery 
this time, and I spent the whole night talking with her and told her if 
she was ready to go home it was OK.  Without the tube she would have 
died a slow painful death from starvation and liver failure, and as hard

as she was fighting the cancer I had to give her every opportunity 
available (my vet really believed she was not going to survive the first

sepsis infection, but she did and my vet called her our miracle kitty 
after that).   She did survive the surgery but went into heart failure 
in recovery, they couldn't get her back.

We did an autopsy (necropsy) and turns out she didn't have a sepsis 
infection but the cancer had spread and totally blocked her bile ducts.

Even if she had survived the tube surgery she wouldn't have lived more  
than a few days and probably in pain, so Buddie made her own decision to

go home (Buddie always, her whole life did things her way!).

The night we sat up and talked and I told her if she was ready to go 
home it was OK, I would be OK, though of course I wanted her to stay 
longer ... I asked her if she did go to please let me know she was OK.

Three days after she passed the light in the exercise room (Buddies 
favorite room) came on while I was in the kitchen feeding the other 
cats.  Hubby was sleeping and nobody else was in the house.  I know it 
was Buddie letting me know she was home and OK, I smiled, thanked her 
and went to bed.

So even if Cricket doesn't make it and I'm praying with all of my might 
that he does, please know you have done everything possible to give him 
the chance to survive, but ultimately it is his choice to stay or go.  I

hope he chooses to stay for along, long time!!

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Re: Was - Cricket and a feeding tube my Buddies feeding tube :: For Wendy [long]

2005-11-10 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Thanks Kerry, Buddie was a very special girl, she lived her life on 
her terms.  She was not a overly affectionate cat and when she got 
cancer I was petrified thinking she will never put up with the vet trips 
and chemo and all the fussing and handling involved.  Buddie had on 
occasion tore a vet or two up when they didn't heed my be careful she 
doesn't like being held or picked up, sometimes she didn't even want to 
be touched.  She would come to you and let you pet her for as long as 
she felt like it, then turn and run when she had had enough.


When she got very over weight and had to go on a diet I was worried, she 
only ate dry food and that was making her fatter and fatter, I figured 
it was going to be hell to get her off it, but she surprised me and 
switched without any problem.  Once she lost the 6 ounds over a year and 
a hlf that she needed to she became a different cat.  I still remember 
the look of surprise on her face when she jumped from the floor to the 
table, something she had not been able to do while overweight.  She was 
truly full of herself for that accomplishment.  She also became more 
affectionate.  It was about a year after that that she was diagnosed 
with liver cancer.  She tolerated the vet trips and pokings and 
proddings surprisingly well for the first 4 treatments and then she 
decided she had had enough and quite eating.  It took me 3 weeks of 
sitting in front og her every 15 minutes with a bowl of food to get her 
eating again, and I promised her we would stop the chemo if she just ate.


She got 3 intravenous doses of chemo which I know helped immensly, and 
she was on prenisolone which was the regular treatment for her type of 
cancer.  Had we continued with the chemo she woud have gotten one more 
intravenous dose and then gone on leukeran as a maintanence chemo (given 
orally at home) drug.


She lived just over a year after she was diagnosed, most of that time 
was very good, and we bonded like never before, she actually followed me 
around and wanted to be in my lap, or at the very least in the same 
room.  It was very special.


In hindsight I maybe would have continued the oral chemo atleast, but at 
the time I did the best that I could given Buddies personality and what 
I thought she wanted.  She put up with a lot more than I ever imagined 
she would.  And as she had always done, lived and died in her own way, I 
wouldn't trade that year for anything:)


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Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed away
last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty torn
up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
carried his collar to work with me today.  He had the
feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. 
For most of the night, I thought he was just having a
hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because he
never really did and was having problems breathing,
but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
from the procedure, and that he should be fine later. 
He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 he
woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and took
him to the living room because I knew something wasn't
right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have asked
God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
(like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I know
that I did just about everything humanly and
financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At least
not right now.  I am going to write him a little
tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
companion.  I will send a pic out of him later when I
get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me and
Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
around and help out anyone else I can even though I
don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to have
my other two retested).  God Bless each and every one
of you.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Doljan, Joan
Wendy,

I have been following Cricket's story and I am so saddened that he did not
make it. I know that you did the best for him and that he knew that as well.
Please accept my sympathy for your loss.

Joan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Cricket


Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed away
last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty torn
up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
carried his collar to work with me today.  He had the
feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. 
For most of the night, I thought he was just having a
hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because he
never really did and was having problems breathing,
but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
from the procedure, and that he should be fine later. 
He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 he
woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and took
him to the living room because I knew something wasn't
right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have asked
God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
(like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I know
that I did just about everything humanly and
financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At least
not right now.  I am going to write him a little
tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
companion.  I will send a pic out of him later when I
get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me and
Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
around and help out anyone else I can even though I
don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to have
my other two retested).  God Bless each and every one
of you.

:)
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Lernermichelle


Oh my God, Wendy, I am so incredibly sorry. It sounds like the passing was relatively easy as passings go, and maybe that was due to the sedation. But it is so horriblethat Cricket had to pass at all. I do not think it is strange you brought his collar to work at all. Youdid everything you possibly could for him--you really did every possible thing that could havepossibly helped him. He did so well for a while that I thought he might bethe one who would finally make it after such severe anemia, that we might learn it is possible after all. It is such a heartbreak that it lasted only a few weeks. Maybe it is true that when they get to a certain point, absent the rare case of fixable auto-immunereaction or hemobartonella, that they can not really rebound from it for more than a few weeks. It is horrible and frightening. I am so sorry. But having seen all different kinds of passings, I am grateful for you andCricketthat he passed as he did, quietly and on his own and with you and at home. 
Michelle


Re: Was - Cricket and a feeding tube my Buddies feeding tube :: For Wendy [long]

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Hi Belinda,

I loved your story about Buddie and her coming to love
her feeding tube.  How sweet!  I wish I had had that
opportunity, but I cannot discount all the others the
good Lord gave me with Cricket.  He was my baby.  I am
so sorry you lost Buddie.  Like you, I asked Cricket
before he left if he could come back and let me know
he's ok, so I will wait for a sign.  My husband was
wonderful last night.  He was very tender and
understanding with me, and even though he has to get
up at 4:30 am, he was going to sit with me until I
stopped crying.  I finally asked him to give me some
alone time with Cricket because I knew he needed his
rest.  So I guess in sorrow and pain, there are always
blessings if we look for them.  This experience has
ended up bonding my husband and me a little more.  And
my nephew with us as well.

Thanks again Belinda,
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RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Kat
Dear Wendy,

I am so sorry that Cricket has left you.
You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)



RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thank you Joan.  It means a lot to me.

--- Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,
 
 I have been following Cricket's story and I am so
 saddened that he did not
 make it. I know that you did the best for him and
 that he knew that as well.
 Please accept my sympathy for your loss.
 
 Joan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of wendy
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:58 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Cricket
 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed
 away
 last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty
 torn
 up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
 carried his collar to work with me today.  He had
 the
 feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
 that after the procedure, he couldn't get his
 breath. 
 For most of the night, I thought he was just having
 a
 hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because
 he
 never really did and was having problems breathing,
 but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
 from the procedure, and that he should be fine
 later. 
 He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20
 he
 woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and
 took
 him to the living room because I knew something
 wasn't
 right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have
 asked
 God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
 passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
 (like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
 honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
 very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
 little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
 that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I
 know
 that I did just about everything humanly and
 financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At least
 not right now.  I am going to write him a little
 tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
 companion.  I will send a pic out of him later when
 I
 get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me
 and
 Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
 Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
 around and help out anyone else I can even though I
 don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to
 have
 my other two retested).  God Bless each and every
 one
 of you.
 
 :)
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thanks Michelle.  I am glad that Cricket went fairly
quickly too.  I really don't think I could have dealt
with him suffering for much longer.  The twenty
minutes was torture enough.  I kept begging God to let
him go, and begging Cricket to let go.  I am 35 years
old and this has truly been one of the hardest things
I have ever had to do, and my life has not been an
easy one.  My mom just lost her boyfriend of 11 years
to cancer in May and she went through a hundred times
more than I did with Cricket, but a lot of the same
type things: trying to get him to eat, giving him
meds, the hoping, taking him to all the doc visits,
praying, etc.  I don't know how people do it, and I
have a newfound respect for those in hospice care and
for those who care so compassionately for their loved
ones who are terminal.  I was with my grandmother when
she died, and I guess I was hoping Cricket would go as
peacefully, but it wasn't so peaceful.  And I think if
it was, I might be handling this a little better.   

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh my God, Wendy, I am so incredibly sorry. It
 sounds like the passing was 
 relatively easy as passings go, and maybe that was
 due to the sedation. But it 
 is so horrible that Cricket had to pass at all.  I
 do not think it is strange 
 you brought his collar to work at all.  You did
 everything you possibly could 
 for him-- you really did every possible thing that
 could have possibly helped 
 him.  He did so well for a while that I thought he
 might be the one who would 
 finally make it after such severe anemia, that we
 might learn it is possible 
 after all.  It is such a heartbreak that it lasted
 only a few weeks.  Maybe it 
 is true that when they get to a certain point,
 absent the rare case of fixable 
 auto-immune reaction or hemobartonella, that they
 can not really rebound from 
 it for more than a few weeks.  It is horrible and
 frightening.  I am so sorry. 
  But having seen all different kinds of passings, I
 am grateful for you and 
 Cricket that he passed as he did, quietly and on his
 own and with you and at 
 home.  
 Michelle 
 




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RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thank you Kat.  We could use the prayers-they are much
appreciated.

--- Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Wendy,
 
 I am so sorry that Cricket has left you.
 You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
 
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Sharon Siders
Wendy,

I don't post much anymore, since I lost my last FeLV kitty two years ago. I still care deeply about all of you and your kitties though. Please know that my heart goes out to you for we can all relate to what you are feeling.

Sharonwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Everyone,I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed awaylast night about 2:42 am Texas time. I am pretty tornup right now. I feel like such a dork because Icarried his collar to work with me today. He had thefeeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. For most of the night, I thought he was just having ahard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because henever really did and was having problems breathing,but the vet said his trachea probably got irritatedfrom the procedure, and that he should be fine later. He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 hewoke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and tookhim to the living room because I knew something wasn'tright. He died about 20 minutes later. I have askedGod countless times to let me
 be there when Cricketpassed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely(like he would be if I was at work and died). Godhonored that request, thankfully, but it was stillvery hard. My husband, nephew, and I will have alittle ceremony this afternoon for him. I am gladthat he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I knowthat I did just about everything humanly andfinancially possible, but it doesn't help. At leastnot right now. I am going to write him a littletribute to bury with him. He was such a wonderfulcompanion. I will send a pic out of him later when Iget home. Thank all of you SO much for helping me andCricket through these last three and a half weeks. Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stickaround and help out anyone else I can even though Idon't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to havemy other two retested). God Bless each and every oneof
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Lernermichelle



Wendy,
 I'm sorry, I thought from your posting that it had been peaceful, that he never entirely came out of sedation. 

 I have been through it many times-- the slow decline, buying everything in the supermarket every day to try to get them to eat, going over options and possible treatments over and over and over every day, watching them lose strength when it feels like you would give everything and anything to just stop the decline and give them strength but you can't. It is the hardest thing in the world. And if you love many animals and stick it out with them when they get sick, it happens over and over. I am not sure at this point how many times I have been through it. I do not really want to count. But it does not get easier, as far as I can tell. Just less surprising.

Michelle

In a message dated 11/10/2005 11:19:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks Michelle. I am glad that Cricket went fairlyquickly too. I really don't think I could have dealtwith him suffering for much longer. The twentyminutes was torture enough. I kept begging God to lethim go, and begging Cricket to let go. I am 35 yearsold and this has truly been one of the hardest thingsI have ever had to do, and my life has not been aneasy one. My mom just lost her boyfriend of 11 yearsto cancer in May and she went through a hundred timesmore than I did with Cricket, but a lot of the sametype things: trying to get him to eat, giving himmeds, the hoping, taking him to all the doc visits,praying, etc. I don't know how people do it, and Ihave a newfound respect for those in hospice care andfor those who care so compassionately for their lovedones who are terminal. I was with my grandmother whenshe died, and I guess I was hoping Cricket would go aspeacefully, but it wasn't so peaceful. And I think ifit was, I might be handling this a little better. 



Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thank you Sharon.  I am sorry to hear about your loss.
 What was your kitty's name?  

--- Sharon Siders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wendy,
  
 I don't post much anymore, since I lost my last FeLV
 kitty two years ago.  I still care deeply about all
 of you and your kitties though.  Please know that my
 heart goes out to you for we can all relate to what
 you are feeling.
  
 Sharon
 
 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed
 away
 last night about 2:42 am Texas time. I am pretty
 torn
 up right now. I feel like such a dork because I
 carried his collar to work with me today. He had the
 feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
 that after the procedure, he couldn't get his
 breath. 
 For most of the night, I thought he was just having
 a
 hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because
 he
 never really did and was having problems breathing,
 but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
 from the procedure, and that he should be fine
 later. 
 He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20
 he
 woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and
 took
 him to the living room because I knew something
 wasn't
 right. He died about 20 minutes later. I have asked
 God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
 passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
 (like he would be if I was at work and died). God
 honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
 very hard. My husband, nephew, and I will have a
 little ceremony this afternoon for him. I am glad
 that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I
 know
 that I did just about everything humanly and
 financially possible, but it doesn't help. At least
 not right now. I am going to write him a little
 tribute to bury with him. He was such a wonderful
 companion. I will send a pic out of him later when I
 get home. Thank all of you SO much for helping me
 and
 Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
 Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
 around and help out anyone else I can even though I
 don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to
 have
 my other two retested). God Bless each and every one
 of you.
 
 :)
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Belinda Sauro

Wendy,
   I'm so sorry Cricket choose to go home, sometimes they know their 
bodies just aren't strong enough and make that choice.  He will give you 
a sign, I'm sure of it.


Taking his collar to work is not even a little bit silly, it is a way to 
comfort yourself and still have a little piece of him with you, I 
understand that completely.  I still have Buddies tube (the first one 
that was removed) and a lot of the other things I needed to use while 
she was sick.


I have had all of my recent passed furkids cremated and have all of them 
on a shelf in the livingroom next to my grandfathers clock.  They are 
each in their own special wood cases and each has a photo of them on the 
front.  I know it isn't really them but it makes me feel better to have 
something I can look at and touch when I want to.


Cricket will let you know whether in a dream, or a smell or something 
you see or feel, that he is OK.  He is whole and healthy again.  I'm 
glad you were with him that is the only thing that bothers me about 
Buddie, I wasn't there with her ...


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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Michelle,

You are truly an angel.  I couldn't do this over and
over.  I just couldn't.  All of us have special
reasons why we are here, and caring for these FeLV
kitties is definitely one of yours.  I know what you
mean about the day to day struggle and trying to
figure out courses of treatment, getting desperate,
and trying to figure out if the vet is on the money or
if there might be a better way.  You hit the nail
right on the head.  Maybe if I wasn't so attached to
Cricket, it might have been a little easier.  We have
11 cats, 3 are my nephews, 2 strays, 3 are my dad's
(mine now), and 3 are mine.  My 3 live indoors,
including Cricket, and Cricket and I had our little
routine every day.  He would get in the shower with me
in the mornings, and I would turn on the bathroom
faucet for him to drink.  When I was home, he was
always in whatever room of the house that I was in,
keeping a watchful eye on me.  Like Belinda's cat
Buddie, he wasn't overy affectionate, but did seek me
out when he wanted to be petted.  He loved tuna fish
and if I asked if he wanted to go outside, he would
run to the door, as he loved basking in the sun.  I
don't have that type of relationship with the outside
kitties and I know it would be hard to let them go,
but not as hard.  I feel as if I've lost a part of my
day, you know?  Part of me in a way.



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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Belinda,

I bet Buddie knew that it bothered you that you
weren't there when she passed and she made sure to
come back and let you know that she is ok with that
and for you not to feel badly about it.  What a sweet
and thoughtful kitty.

:)
Wendy

--- Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wendy,
 I'm so sorry Cricket choose to go home,
 sometimes they know their 
 bodies just aren't strong enough and make that
 choice.  He will give you 
 a sign, I'm sure of it.
 
 Taking his collar to work is not even a little bit
 silly, it is a way to 
 comfort yourself and still have a little piece of
 him with you, I 
 understand that completely.  I still have Buddies
 tube (the first one 
 that was removed) and a lot of the other things I
 needed to use while 
 she was sick.
 
 I have had all of my recent passed furkids cremated
 and have all of them 
 on a shelf in the livingroom next to my grandfathers
 clock.  They are 
 each in their own special wood cases and each has a
 photo of them on the 
 front.  I know it isn't really them but it makes me
 feel better to have 
 something I can look at and touch when I want to.
 
 Cricket will let you know whether in a dream, or a
 smell or something 
 you see or feel, that he is OK.  He is whole and
 healthy again.  I'm 
 glad you were with him that is the only thing that
 bothers me about 
 Buddie, I wasn't there with her ...
 
 -- 
  Belinda
 Happiness is being owned by cats ...
 
 Be-Mi-Kitties ...
 http://www.bemikitties.com
 
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Lernermichelle



It sounds like you had an amazing relationship with Cricket. And you are right that it would not be as hard with the others, but don't fool yourself-- it will still be hard, when the time comes. When I talked about going through it over and over, it was not just positive cats. I have lost 3 positives, but I have also lost a lot of other animals-- dogs to cancer, horses to leg problems and age, cats to cancer and age and heart disease. All animals reach the point when they are sick or debilitated or will not eat, except for the few that pass suddenly, and the feeling of going through it can be just the same as going through what we do with the FeLV+ cats-- with the one exception that hopefully the others are not as young in age when they go through it, and the early age at which positive cats go through this adds a tremendously heartbreaking horror to it all. But debilitation and death are debilitation and death, and they happen to almost all of us at some point, except those of us who die from heart attack, stroke, aneurism, or die in our sleep, which is the exception.
Michelle

In a message dated 11/10/2005 11:37:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle,You are truly an angel. I couldn't do this over andover. I just couldn't. All of us have specialreasons why we are here, and caring for these FeLVkitties is definitely one of yours. I know what youmean about the day to day struggle and trying tofigure out courses of treatment, getting desperate,and trying to figure out if the vet is on the money orif there might be a better way. You hit the nailright on the head. Maybe if I wasn't so attached toCricket, it might have been a little easier. We have11 cats, 3 are my nephews, 2 strays, 3 are my dad's(mine now), and 3 are mine. My 3 live indoors,including Cricket, and Cricket and I had our littleroutine every day. He would get in the shower with mein the mornings, and I would turn on the bathroomfaucet for him to drink. When I was home, he wasalways in whatever room of the house that I was in,keeping a watchful eye on me. Like Belinda's catBuddie, he wasn't overy affectionate, but did seek meout when he wanted to be petted. He loved tuna fishand if I asked if he wanted to go outside, he wouldrun to the door, as he loved basking in the sun. Idon't have that type of relationship with the outsidekitties and I know it would be hard to let them go,but not as hard. I feel as if I've lost a part of myday, you know? Part of me in a way.



Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Lomaxturtle



So sorry to hear of Cricket's passing after his and your brave fight. I am 
however [leased that he woke you up and that you got to be with him at that 
crucial time. He trusted you enough and wanted to be with you when he knew he 
had to go - that is so special.

Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel Bramble


Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Yes Michelle, I agree that it's hard to take when they
are so young.  It's probably difficult too when they
have been a lifelong companion for many years.  I
guess it's hard all the way around.  It sounds as if
you have some wonderful acreage (in UK?) due to all
your animals and horses and I am envious.  It's my
dream one day to have at least 5-10 acres with a barn
and lots of animals to love.  I am glad to know you;
you seem to be a very caring and thoughtful person and
your furballs are lucky to have you as well.  I am
lucky to know all the cat lovers here.  Yesterday, I
overheard some of the kids here at the school I work
at talking about how boring cats were and that they
aren't good pets to have.  I told them that anyone who
doesn't like cats has never been loved by one.

:)
Wendy




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RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Oh Wendy, I am so, so sorry, and in tears with you. Like, I'm sure,
everyone else who's been following your and Cricket's story, I've been
wondering this morning he fared, and hoping for the best.

I am so very glad that you were at home when the time came, and that he
woke you up so you could be with him and comfort him at the end. That
means so much.

Please know you and your family are in my thoughts as you come to terms
with the physical loss of your dear little furball. I know he will live
in a happy place in your memory for ever.

love and hugs, 

Kerry






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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Cricket


Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed away
last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty torn
up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
carried his collar to work with me today.  He had the
feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. 
For most of the night, I thought he was just having a
hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because he
never really did and was having problems breathing,
but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
from the procedure, and that he should be fine later. 
He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 he
woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and took
him to the living room because I knew something wasn't
right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have asked
God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
(like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I know
that I did just about everything humanly and
financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At least
not right now.  I am going to write him a little
tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
companion.  I will send a pic out of him later when I
get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me and
Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
around and help out anyone else I can even though I
don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to have
my other two retested).  God Bless each and every one
of you.

:)
Wendy




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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread TatorBunz


Wendy,
 I'm so sorry to hear about your "Cricket". My husband very comforting when I lost my "Taz" as well. The sad thing is I couldn't be with Taz when he died. I lost him in surgery while they were trying to remove tumors from his eye and skull. His link is below under my signature "Pet Memorial" if your interested in seeing him and his story.
I too have all myloved ones
(Taz, Smokey, Sammi, Sasha, and my father)
with me that have been cremated. They are with me here in the computer room. Which gives me some comfort at times.

I'm so glad you were with Cricket. He knows you loved him and he loved you back.

We all have that special kitty in our lives. It may be one or a few of them that just gets into our hearts even though we have others in the home. Worming their way into our hearts...guess that is what I'm trying to say.

There is just something special about Felv kitties. I know it took me about a year before I could talk about my Taz because I would break down and cry.

I shed tears for you knowing what it is like just like everyone else in this group. It is heartbreaking and we are never prepared for it.

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
May he be greeted at the bridge by all of our Furangels then off to run and catch butterflies until you are together again.
Bless you for taking in this kitty and giving him the love he needed.
Take care of yourself! There is nothing wrong with carrying his collar with you to work.

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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Lernermichelle



No, I am in the US. We have 5 acres, mostly woods. The horses, Shire and Pepsi, never lived on our property. I grew up with them living at a barn a few miles away.
Michelle

In a message dated 11/10/2005 12:20:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes Michelle, I agree that it's hard to take when theyare so young. It's probably difficult too when theyhave been a lifelong companion for many years. Iguess it's hard all the way around. It sounds as ifyou have some wonderful acreage (in UK?) due to allyour animals and horses and I am envious. It's mydream one day to have at least 5-10 acres with a barnand lots of animals to love. I am glad to know you;you seem to be a very caring and thoughtful person andyour furballs are lucky to have you as well. I amlucky to know all the cat lovers here. Yesterday, Ioverheard some of the kids here at the school I workat talking about how boring cats were and that theyaren't good pets to have. I told them that anyone whodoesn't like cats has never been loved by one.:)Wendy



Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Julie,

How are you doing?

:)
Wendy

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 Dear Friends,
  
 Mandy is gone.  She was not doing well Tuesday night
 (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I
 made the decision to end her suffering.  I called my
 husband and he left work right away to come home. 
 We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began
 to purr.  She never cared to be held; she liked to
 pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in
 her blanket and let us hold her.  We were with her
 and holding her and talking softly to her and she
 had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.
  
 It's been so empty the last two nights without my
 little reading partner; she always liked to sit on
 the bed with her upper body across my arm and her
 paws on my shoulder while I read at night.  Since
 she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the
 time and she'd been reading with me every night for
 weeks.
  
 I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist;
 only last week and it seems forever ago.  Even
 though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a
 lovely day and I am so grateful for it.  She and
 Wink snoozed the whole way home.  They were all
 curled up together on their faux mink and listening
 to their special pet music.  I kept turning back to
 look at them and it was so peaceful and loving.  We
 stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I
 took the carrier out of the car and set it on the
 ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front
 and began to meow to Depot Charlie!  She was such
 a little talker and he looked so puzzled!  I'm happy
 they were able to meet.
  
 Thank you all for being here and for your good
 thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without
 you during this year of terrible losses.  I have to
 try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have
 shared her short life.  I miss her; we had our
 morning routine of putting the ingredients in the
 food processor and she'd talk to me once the whirr
 of the blade sounded.  These last two mornings have
 been empty, as well.  You are the only ones who
 understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy
 of our other cats.  
  
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RE: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thank you Kerry for the warm thoughts and compassion. 
I feel so much better after reading everyone's posts
to Cricket and me.  I am compiling a little journal of
all the posts that have gone on regarding Cricket and
I am going to bind it and keep it so that I can
remember his good fight and everyone here who helped. 
It will be a treasure of mine.  Thanks to all of you.




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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Terrie,

I went to Taz's memorial page.  What a beautiful
kitty!!!  His memorial brought me to tears and I am so
sorry for your loss.  Thank you for your beautiful
words.  I am thankful to God for them and for all the
people who take time from their busy lives to
encourage others who are going through the heartbreak
of losing a furball.  

:)
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Woods, too?!!! I am really envious now!  ;)  Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I am in the US. We have 5 acres, mostly woods.
 The horses, Shire and 
 Pepsi, never lived on our property. I grew up with
 them living at a barn a few 
 miles away.
 Michelle
 
 In a message dated 11/10/2005 12:20:48 PM Eastern
 Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Yes Michelle, I agree that it's hard to take when
 they
 are so young.  It's probably difficult too when they
 have been a lifelong companion for many years.  I
 guess it's hard all the way around.  It sounds as if
 you have some wonderful acreage (in UK?) due to all
 your animals and horses and I am envious.  It's my
 dream one day to have at least 5-10 acres with a
 barn
 and lots of animals to love.  I am glad to know you;
 you seem to be a very caring and thoughtful person
 and
 your furballs are lucky to have you as well.  I am
 lucky to know all the cat lovers here.  Yesterday, I
 overheard some of the kids here at the school I work
 at talking about how boring cats were and that they
 aren't good pets to have.  I told them that anyone
 who
 doesn't like cats has never been loved by one.
 
 :)
 Wendy
 





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Re: Euthasol in vein

2005-11-10 Thread Barb Moermond
Michelle,
one of the reasons why animals sometimes need a second dose is because their systems are already so shut down that the drug isn't being spread or metabolized efficiently. Ninja didn't have any sedation at all and the vet did a parenteral (abdominal) shot and Ninja raised her head at that, but then was fine - I don't remember how much time had passed, but Ninja did need a second shot and she had zero reaction to that.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm glad you mentioned that Jenn - I wasn't sure how much info to leave or not but it is an important one. When I had to have Tidge put to sleep the sedatiev worked quickly but her veins collapsed as teh sedative causes a drop in blood pressure so the vet had to go through her stomache. I can't remember if it was blue or pink - my dogs always had blue but for some reason pink stands out in my mind for tidge. It took her about 5 mins to pass which seemed like forever. She ended up needing another dose which the vet said she couldn't believe it - she had teh dose for a dog. She was just about to have her 3rd dose when she passed. ALthough sedated and peaceful - it was not pleasant and I pray that all future cats manange to have it in their leg. Bramble actually fough the sedation and vomited a couple of times with it and then we decided to do the euthasol before he got too sleepy as the
 sedation was interfering with his breathing. He was a little sedated and he had the injection in his leg and passed very quickly. My dogs Gemma and Deano both had sedation which worked and then passed quickly wit hthe injection in their leg. I still wouldn't do a pts without sedation despite the negative side affect possibilities.Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy  Angel BrambleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-10 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I think that that is a very argument that
I am going to make  identify the definition of nuisance 
and convince that having more animals are not necessarily
equivalent of nuisance  especially if they are all indoor kept and well
taken care of.











From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nicholena Rushton
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005
8:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Need all your prayers
- please!!









Unfortunately from a
legal standpoint it is looked at as a public health nuisance when
one has more than the generally accepted amount of animals (which differs from
area to area). It does not make sense to me but considering
fanimals (my own term for animals who are family) are classified as
property it is the way the law looks at them, at least here in Pennsylvania. 











Niki 











P.S. I only learned
all of this recently after taking an Animal Rights seminar as part of my
continuing legal education credits.







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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:33 PM





Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!











I truly think these
ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as
many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not
disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these
things in court.











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Hideyo
 Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





Someone
anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type of
complains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bother
my neighbors or anything.. it's almost like personal thing against
me
and nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. And
actually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so when
the city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,
they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permit
no longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow the
correct process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly how
many cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.

I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have to
do a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It just
does not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not bothering
anyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you know
what I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because they
have too many children..

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealing
with what you are dealing with, so I don't know for
sure, but if I had to guess, I would think they would
give you like 30 days to find homes for however many
over the number they allow you. Then, at the end of
30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment to
come by to do a head count. After that, I bet they
don't bother you much and you can bring any kitties
back that kind people have taken in for you for a
short time so that you can pass the head count. I
hope you have family or good friends nearby that will
help you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future,
you don't have to answer the door to anyone from
animal control if you think they are coming to do a
head count again. I doubt they will hassle you
though. I wouldn't worry about all this just yet
though Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. 
And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,
then you will have worried for no reason. How in the
world did this all happen in the first place? Did
someone complain about your cats?





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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Nina

Wendy,
I'm so sorry that Cricket wasn't able to benefit from the feeding tube.  
It is a comfort that your prayers were answered and you were with him 
when he passed, (I'm betting that Cricket, knowing your wishes, had 
something to do with that).  I'm sure no one on this list thinks it's a 
bit dorky that you took his collar to work with you today.  I still 
have my beloved Trouble's collar.  Whenever I have a new arrival that 
isn't acclimating well, I'll put Trouble's collar on them and ask 
Trouble to watch over them.  Trouble was the kitty ambassador in my life 
that opened me up to just how wonderful all cats are.  He taught me so 
much, just as Cricket taught you.  I'm sorry that knowing you did 
everything in your power to help Cricket stay longer isn't a comfort to 
you yet, I think it may be later.  Right now you are so raw, there's so 
little that can comfort us when we lose our loved ones.  How remarkable 
Cricket's influence has been on your family though!  Isn't it amazing 
how these little angels can change our lives and bring us closer to the 
humans that share it?  My thoughts and prayers are with you, let us know 
when Cricket gives you that sign that he is still with you,

Nina

wendy wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed away
last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty torn
up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
carried his collar to work with me today.  He had the
feeding tube procedure done, but was just so anemic,
that after the procedure, he couldn't get his breath. 
For most of the night, I thought he was just having a

hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because he
never really did and was having problems breathing,
but the vet said his trachea probably got irritated
from the procedure, and that he should be fine later. 
He slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 he

woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and took
him to the living room because I knew something wasn't
right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have asked
God countless times to let me be there when Cricket
passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
(like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I know
that I did just about everything humanly and
financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At least
not right now.  I am going to write him a little
tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
companion.  I will send a pic out of him later when I
get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me and
Cricket through these last three and a half weeks. 
Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick

around and help out anyone else I can even though I
don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to have
my other two retested).  God Bless each and every one
of you.

:)
Wendy




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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Nina,

I will definitely let you guys know when I hear from
Cricket.  (That sounds a little crazy reading
that-lol).  I love the idea of putting Trouble's
collar on your new arrivals and asking him to look
over them.  I will remember that.  And thank you for
your kinds words.  They are soothing.

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lets help them out if we can? Dog needs transport

2005-11-10 Thread Steph E Caldwell



 Original Message 
Subject: [RC]   Not endurance, but lets help them out if we can? Dog 
needs transport

Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:36:28 GMT
From: Ridecamp Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please Reply to: Char [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==

Some horse frineds are trying to get this rescue dog to its
new home. Down below you will see where they are short on
drivers in getting this dog to its final destination. If you
can fill out a needed area in transportation I am sure a dog
and its new owner would be grateful.

PLEASE CROSSPOST!

This transport is for a Katrina pup that has been unable to
find her original owners. She now has an approved forever home
in Iowa. The home was screened and a home visit done. If you
can help, please email me privately libby4dogs @ Adelphia.net
remove spaces)

DATE: Sat/Sun Nov 26/Nov 27
FROM: Lost Fantasy Stables and Rescue, Ceres, VA Sarah Dutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO: Approved home Karol Selken Altoona IA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
COORDINATOR: Libby Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RIDER: Pet Name: Rita
Breed: New Orleans Street Dog (aka mutt)
Age: 3 months
Sex: Spayed female
Size: 6 pounds
Shots: Current
Traveling with crate and all paperwork

ROUTE/LEGS:
Ceres Va to Beckley WV – 74 miles filled by rescue
Beckley WV to Charleston WV – 58 miles NEED
Charlestown WV to Rio Grande OH – 72 miles NEED
Rio Grande OH to Washington Court OH – 79 miles NEED
Washington Court OH to Cincinnati OH – 80 miles NEED
Cincinnati OH to Shelbyville OH 83 miles NEED
Shelbyville OH to Brownsburg IN – 53 miles NEED
Brownsburg IN to Covington IN – 60 miles NEED


OVERNIGHT NEEDED

Covington IN to Champaign IL – 52 miles NEED
Champaign IL to Bloomington IL – 52 miles NEED
Bloomington IL to Galesburg IL – 89 miles NEED
Galesburg IL to Davenport IA – 70 miles NEED
Davenport IA to Iowa City IA - 60 miles NEED
Iowa City IA to Altoona IA – 100 miles – filled by adopter
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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread Terri Brown




I'm so sorry he didn't make it. Big hugs to you and yours.

Goodnight, sweet Cricket...

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  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:58 
  AM
  Subject: Cricket
  Hi Everyone,I just wanted to let you know that Cricket 
  passed awaylast night about 2:42 am Texas time. I am pretty 
  tornup right now. I feel like such a dork because Icarried his 
  collar to work with me today. He had thefeeding tube procedure done, 
  but was just so anemic,that after the procedure, he couldn't get his 
  breath. For most of the night, I thought he was just having ahard time 
  coming out of the sedation (gas) because henever really did and was having 
  problems breathing,but the vet said his trachea probably got 
  irritatedfrom the procedure, and that he should be fine later. He 
  slept right next to me last night and about 2:20 hewoke me up trying to 
  cry, and I picked him up and tookhim to the living room because I knew 
  something wasn'tright. He died about 20 minutes later. I have 
  askedGod countless times to let me be there when Cricketpassed so that 
  he wouldn't be as scared or lonely(like he would be if I was at work and 
  died). Godhonored that request, thankfully, but it was stillvery 
  hard. My husband, nephew, and I will have alittle ceremony this 
  afternoon for him. I am gladthat he is not in pain or weak or 
  suffering and I knowthat I did just about everything humanly 
  andfinancially possible, but it doesn't help. At leastnot right 
  now. I am going to write him a littletribute to bury with him. 
  He was such a wonderfulcompanion. I will send a pic out of him later 
  when Iget home. Thank all of you SO much for helping me 
  andCricket through these last three and a half weeks. Your kindness is 
  immeasurable, and I plan to stickaround and help out anyone else I can 
  even though Idon't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to havemy 
  other two retested). God Bless each and every oneof 
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Re: OT:Animal Control issue - need help again.

2005-11-10 Thread Lernermichelle



Contact Dr. Richards at Cornell. He is really nice and very accessible, and he might agree to testify over the phone for you or at least direct you to something on the corona virus issue. He is a big proponent of not separating based on corona or FIP status, and he is the head of a national feline vet association. He can probably also direct you to a good source of info on the FIV issue as well.

Other than that, doing some searches on Google should bring up some stuff.

Michelle

In a message dated 11/10/2005 4:02:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, everyone - I am wondering if you guys can help me do some researchso that I can prepare for my hearing for my multiple permit - I just got reasons of denial from the animal control - and here's why -1) Premises is not large enough to accommodate the number of animals(that's based on the stupid calculation they use)2) Sick or diseased animals are not house separate from healthy animalsOn 2nd - he is mainly talking about corona virus (which almost everyonehas) - FIV (which only transmittable through deep bite wound) - as FeLKkitties are separated from the rest of the housing -If you can find any articles or research regarding support the fact thecorona virus itself is not causing FIP, but rather, the compromisedimmune system causes the disease, and you will only get FIV transmittedwith aggressive bite wounds so that I can present my case - I wouldappreciate it.



To Sandy

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Sandy,

How are your furballs doing?

:)
Wendy



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Re: Cricket

2005-11-10 Thread wendy
Thank you Terry.  :) Wendy

--- Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm so sorry he didn't make it.  Big hugs to you and
 yours.
 
 Goodnight, sweet Cricket...
 
 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere,
 Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl,
 Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' =^..^=
 
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   - Original Message - 
   From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To:

felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
   Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:58 AM
   Subject: Cricket
 
 
   Hi Everyone,
 
   I just wanted to let you know that Cricket passed
 away
   last night about 2:42 am Texas time.  I am pretty
 torn
   up right now.  I feel like such a dork because I
   carried his collar to work with me today.  He had
 the
   feeding tube procedure done, but was just so
 anemic,
   that after the procedure, he couldn't get his
 breath. 
   For most of the night, I thought he was just
 having a
   hard time coming out of the sedation (gas) because
 he
   never really did and was having problems
 breathing,
   but the vet said his trachea probably got
 irritated
   from the procedure, and that he should be fine
 later. 
   He slept right next to me last night and about
 2:20 he
   woke me up trying to cry, and I picked him up and
 took
   him to the living room because I knew something
 wasn't
   right.  He died about 20 minutes later.  I have
 asked
   God countless times to let me be there when
 Cricket
   passed so that he wouldn't be as scared or lonely
   (like he would be if I was at work and died).  God
   honored that request, thankfully, but it was still
   very hard.  My husband, nephew, and I will have a
   little ceremony this afternoon for him.  I am glad
   that he is not in pain or weak or suffering and I
 know
   that I did just about everything humanly and
   financially possible, but it doesn't help.  At
 least
   not right now.  I am going to write him a little
   tribute to bury with him.  He was such a wonderful
   companion.  I will send a pic out of him later
 when I
   get home.  Thank all of you SO much for helping me
 and
   Cricket through these last three and a half weeks.
 
   Your kindness is immeasurable, and I plan to stick
   around and help out anyone else I can even though
 I
   don't have anymore FeLV (that I know of-I need to
 have
   my other two retested).  God Bless each and every
 one
   of you.
 
   :)
   Wendy
 
 
 
 
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RE: lets help them out if we can? Dog needs transport

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
That's absolutely heartbreaking, Chris. Thanks for the sobering
reminder.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: lets help them out if we can? Dog needs transport


I don't want to put a damper on what might be a very nice story but as
someone who is working on doing Katrina pets/owner reunifications I
wonder
if this dog has an owner looking for him.  There are some pretty
terrible
first hand stories about how people were forced to leave their pets,
some at
the point of a gun, who are now looking for them.  All animals rescued,
10,000 plus, are scattered all over the country and let me tell you, to
find
one animal in this mess takes hours of computer time and long distance
phone
calls.  Folks who were present to turn over their pet to SPCA were
forced to
sign a document that said they would be back to reclaim their pet by
9/30
and some shelters take that as a surrender--never mind that even those
owners who went back to Gonzalez in plenty of time were told their
animals
were gone.  HSUS  ASPCA have pleaded with all shelters/rescue groups to
hold the animals or at least do contigency adoptions until 12/15 but
every
day there are more and more stories about pet owners finally finding
their
pets and being told they were adopted and goodbye!  Even service dogs
were
not allowed in buses, barges, helicopter, etc. all those things used to
rescue people so people are looking for seeing eye dogs, hearing dogs,
etc.

Anyway, I hope that this little guy was at least posted in Petfinder,
that
somebody made an effort to find his owner, and that there isn't someone
out
there feeling overwhelming guilt at having left him behind!

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steph E
Caldwell
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: lets help them out if we can? Dog needs transport



 Original Message 
Subject: [RC]   Not endurance, but lets help them out if we can? Dog 
needs transport
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:36:28 GMT
From: Ridecamp Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please Reply to: Char [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==

Some horse frineds are trying to get this rescue dog to its
new home. Down below you will see where they are short on
drivers in getting this dog to its final destination. If you
can fill out a needed area in transportation I am sure a dog
and its new owner would be grateful.

PLEASE CROSSPOST!

This transport is for a Katrina pup that has been unable to
find her original owners. She now has an approved forever home
in Iowa. The home was screened and a home visit done. If you
can help, please email me privately libby4dogs @ Adelphia.net
remove spaces)

DATE: Sat/Sun Nov 26/Nov 27
FROM: Lost Fantasy Stables and Rescue, Ceres, VA Sarah Dutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO: Approved home Karol Selken Altoona IA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
COORDINATOR: Libby Marquardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RIDER: Pet Name: Rita
Breed: New Orleans Street Dog (aka mutt)
Age: 3 months
Sex: Spayed female
Size: 6 pounds
Shots: Current
Traveling with crate and all paperwork

ROUTE/LEGS:
Ceres Va to Beckley WV - 74 miles filled by rescue
Beckley WV to Charleston WV - 58 miles NEED
Charlestown WV to Rio Grande OH - 72 miles NEED
Rio Grande OH to Washington Court OH - 79 miles NEED
Washington Court OH to Cincinnati OH - 80 miles NEED
Cincinnati OH to Shelbyville OH 83 miles NEED
Shelbyville OH to Brownsburg IN - 53 miles NEED
Brownsburg IN to Covington IN - 60 miles NEED


OVERNIGHT NEEDED

Covington IN to Champaign IL - 52 miles NEED
Champaign IL to Bloomington IL - 52 miles NEED
Bloomington IL to Galesburg IL - 89 miles NEED
Galesburg IL to Davenport IA - 70 miles NEED
Davenport IA to Iowa City IA - 60 miles NEED
Iowa City IA to Altoona IA - 100 miles - filled by adopter
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Poll on FLV exposure and a question !

2005-11-10 Thread Lynne Moquin
We have gotten wonderful news that our two cats have
tested negative on an IFA.
Our third cat died last week, and was confirmed by IFA
to be positive and died of various infection
complications. Very heartbreaking.
Just finally got the other two tested on Sat. and
finally hearing result today Thurs.

I have a question and also a comment regarding the
poll activity on the list over exposure amongst cats.
Because, we suspect the cat that died from it was born
with it.
We had him for about a year and stupidly never had him
tested even tho we assumed him to have feral origins.,
 then got 2 kittens from a breeder at age 14 1/2 wks.
age. They had gotten one vaccine at 12 weeks, but we
were wary of vaccines and did not follow thru on more.


Anyway, the FLV cat was like a mom to them, constantly
grooming, and just loved them for the last nearly 2
1/2 years. 
they shared everything, bedding, bowls, and even when
we force fed the FLV cat we had one of the others lick
his face and scraps he missed, to help encourage him
food was 'fun'. of course, before we know the FLV
status.
could the kittens have had enough immunity to react to
the FLV initially, and continue to build immunity
after that ?

I find this to be really interesting and useful to
reposrt. Will report more on the pathology post mortem
results we should get tomorrow.


My question is, should we retest with the Elisa type
test, and support immune systems with 'respond'
(ginseng) or some other ? 
We have transfer factor plus adv. as well and just
started giving it to the cat that has an asthma cough.
In other words how happy should we be ? 
Am looking for good hope here where we are devasted at
not aggressively treating the bacterial infection that
started the whole chain reaction for our poor sweet
one who died.

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Annie is gone

2005-11-10 Thread Tad Burnett

Sadly I have to report another FeLV+ has passed on today...
Annie was a beautiful calico with a white milk mustache...
She came to live with me about a year and a half ago...
She was a stray who was brought into a shelter in NJ...
She had a huge gash in her side probably from a car
but she was healing well from that but she tested pos
and had to live in a cage with the dogs at the vets...
The dogs didn't seem to bother her and she was friendly
with people and she was friendly with me until I brought
her in the room with my other FeLV+ cats...She established
her own corner with a window of her own and kept everyone
else out...I gave her her own food and box there and she
would let me pat her if no one else was around

About a month ago she stopped eating and we found she
had become anemic ...I put her in my isolation cage and
put her on vitamins the vet gave us and got her eating AD..
After a few days she seemed to be getting better and badly
wanted out of the cage so I let her out...
For a few days she was impossible to catch and didn't always
get her vitamins but soon she started to slide again and she was
easy to catch and medicate and we started seringe feeding...
She took that easily and we had her gaining weight again...

In the process she was spending more and more time on my
bed where the rest of the cats all hang out and soon my feral
cat who won't let me pat her but was very quick to make friends
with the other cats was able to snuggle with Annie
The best thing of this is now the feral cat has suddenly decided
it is OK to be touched by humans and she even let me pick her
up for a minute without struggling

I have been following Wendy and Cricket as it has been so close
to Annie...Yesterday she was too weak to make it to her litter box
even though I had placed it up level with the bed for her...This was
her first accidentI was struggling with the same thought of if I
should PTS but she seemed to rest comfortably and took the
seringe feedings fairly well...We had gone to smaller feedings more
oftenI was so happy when Wendy decided to try the feeding tube
yesterday as I was looking to Wendy for guidance But then it
was so very sad to here this morning that Cricket had passed during
the nightAnnie ate well for a bit but then stopped swallowing and
then again the next feeding she didn't want to take anything
Shortly after that she was resting on my stomach as I patted her
and she let out a cry and then I noticed that she had stopped breathing...
It was over...I believe she was comfortable and new she was loved
right up to the end...

Some are very close all their life and others. like Anie its just at the end
but it doesn't make it any easier to say good buy.
Michelle said it all.. But it does not get easier, as far as I can 
tell.  Just less surprising.


I will miss you sweet Annie and I hope we do get to meet again
Tad





Re: To Sandy

2005-11-10 Thread Dudes
Hi Wendy:
First, I'm so sorry about you losing Cricket.  I am also glad that you got
to be there with him for the end. I have always loved the name Cricket, and
meant to ask you why you named him that.

I named my little sweet pea Cricket because she is so shiny and black, yet,
in the bright sunlight, you can see very faint stripes of almost blue/black.
Her eyes are huge pools of gold.  She was so tiny when she was a kitten.
And she has a tiny little chirp for a meow.   She's still petite, but she
jumps unexpectedly far when she pounces, and always has.  It just seemed to
fit her perfectly.

Thank you so much for asking about my fuzzies.   All are well. Cotton goes
to the new vet on Saturday.  His diarrhea has cleared up, as well as his
ears.  Do earmites just go away?

I have been rereading the list and am trying to organize my thoughts to get
the most out of this visit with the new vet. I have been anticipating it
with ambivalence.  I hope this is a good vet who will work with me.

Sandy








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From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: To Sandy


 Sandy,

 How are your furballs doing?

 :)
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Re: Annie is gone

2005-11-10 Thread Terri Brown




Oh Tad, I'm so sorry. Big hugs to you. It's obvious how much 
you loved her.

Goodnight, sweet Annie...

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furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:27 
  PM
  Subject: Annie is gone
  Sadly I have to report another FeLV+ has passed on 
  today...Annie was a beautiful calico with a white milk mustache...She 
  came to live with me about a year and a half ago...She was a stray who was 
  brought into a shelter in NJ...She had a huge gash in her side probably 
  from a carbut she was healing well from that but she tested posand had 
  to live in a cage with the dogs at the vets...The dogs didn't seem to 
  bother her and she was friendlywith people and she was friendly with me 
  until I broughther in the room with my other FeLV+ cats...She 
  establishedher own corner with a window of her own and kept 
  everyoneelse out...I gave her her own food and box there and shewould 
  let me pat her if no one else was aroundAbout a month ago 
  she stopped eating and we found shehad become anemic ...I put her in my 
  isolation cage andput her on vitamins the vet gave us and got her eating 
  AD..After a few days she seemed to be getting better and badlywanted 
  out of the cage so I let her out...For a few days she was impossible to 
  catch and didn't alwaysget her vitamins but soon she started to slide 
  again and she waseasy to catch and medicate and we started seringe 
  feeding...She took that easily and we had her gaining weight 
  again...In the process she was spending more and more time on 
  mybed where the rest of the cats all hang out and soon my feralcat who 
  won't let me pat her but was very quick to make friendswith the other cats 
  was able to snuggle with AnnieThe best thing of this is now the feral 
  cat has suddenly decidedit is OK to be touched by humans and she even let 
  me pick herup for a minute without strugglingI have been 
  following Wendy and Cricket as it has been so closeto Annie...Yesterday 
  she was too weak to make it to her litter boxeven though I had placed it 
  up level with the bed for her...This washer first accidentI was 
  struggling with the same thought of if Ishould PTS but she seemed to rest 
  comfortably and took theseringe feedings fairly well...We had gone to 
  smaller feedings moreoftenI was so happy when Wendy decided to try the 
  feeding tubeyesterday as I was looking to Wendy for guidance ...But then 
  itwas so very sad to here this morning that Cricket had passed 
  duringthe nightAnnie ate well for a bit but then stopped swallowing 
  andthen again the next feeding she didn't want to take 
  anythingShortly after that she was resting on my stomach as I patted 
  herand she let out a cry and then I noticed that she had stopped 
  breathing...It was over...I believe she was comfortable and new she was 
  lovedright up to the end...Some are very close all their 
  life and others. like Anie its just at the endbut it doesn't make it any 
  easier to say good buy.Michelle said it all.." But it does not get 
  easier, as far as I can tell. Just less surprising."I 
  will miss you sweet Annie and I hope we do get to meet 
  againTad


RE: Annie is gone

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I am so sorry, Tad, to hear about your beloved, beautiful Annie. I know
that when she came to live with you she had a whole new lease of life.
I'm glad that in her new life with you she knew what it was to be truly
cared for and loved I'm glad she knew that right until the end, and
did not pass away alone. Thank you for taking Annie into your home---and
thank you too for all that you do for kitties in need of help and a real
home.
You are in my thoughts on this sad day.
Kerry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Annie is gone


Sadly I have to report another FeLV+ has passed on today...
Annie was a beautiful calico with a white milk mustache...
She came to live with me about a year and a half ago...
She was a stray who was brought into a shelter in NJ...
She had a huge gash in her side probably from a car
but she was healing well from that but she tested pos
and had to live in a cage with the dogs at the vets...
The dogs didn't seem to bother her and she was friendly
with people and she was friendly with me until I brought
her in the room with my other FeLV+ cats...She established
her own corner with a window of her own and kept everyone
else out...I gave her her own food and box there and she
would let me pat her if no one else was around
 
About a month ago she stopped eating and we found she
had become anemic ...I put her in my isolation cage and
put her on vitamins the vet gave us and got her eating AD..
After a few days she seemed to be getting better and badly
wanted out of the cage so I let her out...
For a few days she was impossible to catch and didn't always
get her vitamins but soon she started to slide again and she was
easy to catch and medicate and we started seringe feeding...
She took that easily and we had her gaining weight again...
 
In the process she was spending more and more time on my
bed where the rest of the cats all hang out and soon my feral
cat who won't let me pat her but was very quick to make friends
with the other cats was able to snuggle with Annie
The best thing of this is now the feral cat has suddenly decided
it is OK to be touched by humans and she even let me pick her
up for a minute without struggling
 
I have been following Wendy and Cricket as it has been so close
to Annie...Yesterday she was too weak to make it to her litter box
even though I had placed it up level with the bed for her...This was
her first accidentI was struggling with the same thought of if I
should PTS but she seemed to rest comfortably and took the
seringe feedings fairly well...We had gone to smaller feedings more
oftenI was so happy when Wendy decided to try the feeding tube
yesterday as I was looking to Wendy for guidance But then it
was so very sad to here this morning that Cricket had passed during
the nightAnnie ate well for a bit but then stopped swallowing and
then again the next feeding she didn't want to take anything
Shortly after that she was resting on my stomach as I patted her
and she let out a cry and then I noticed that she had stopped
breathing...
It was over...I believe she was comfortable and new she was loved
right up to the end...
 
Some are very close all their life and others. like Anie its just at the
end
but it doesn't make it any easier to say good buy.
Michelle said it all.. But it does not get easier, as far as I can 
tell.  Just less surprising.
 
I will miss you sweet Annie and I hope we do get to meet again
Tad



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Re: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-10 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, sweetie--

i've been off-line for more than 3 weeks with a dead computer, so just
saw this--what's going on right now, i wonder? on oct 21, i got a
visit from animal control, too, based on an anonymous call (i know
exactly whom it came from)--flipped me out completely. i JUST
passed their final inspection today. 15 seems to be a magic
number, because even tho i have 23 at the moment, she said when she
was here, you only have 15, right? tho she knew the exact number 3
weeks ago.

will go back and read everyone's suggestions when i get a chance; just
wanted to let you know that i have a good idea of what you're feeling
and going through. luckily, she must have found an enlightened
person re: FIV since she was here, because she didn't even mention the
FIVs mixed with the others today

\--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892



visit from animal control

2005-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



You guys aught to appreciate this
When I got a visit from animal control a few years back my positives were 
kept in my room...
4 I think.
the officer told my daughter I was contaminating the house cause Felv is 
airborne
My daughter threw her out 

see our 
available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 
817-453-4888


RE: Need all your prayers - please!!

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Good to have you back, MC. And I'm truly sorry for all the c**p you've
been going through with animal control (and nasty people) too. Welcome
back!
Kerry

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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!


oh, sweetie--

i've been off-line for more than 3 weeks with a dead computer, so just
saw this--what's going on right now, i wonder? on oct 21, i got a
visit from animal control, too, based on an anonymous call (i know
exactly whom it came from)--flipped me out completely. i JUST
passed their final inspection today. 15 seems to be a magic
number, because even tho i have 23 at the moment, she said when she
was here, you only have 15, right? tho she knew the exact number 3
weeks ago.

will go back and read everyone's suggestions when i get a chance; just
wanted to let you know that i have a good idea of what you're feeling
and going through. luckily, she must have found an enlightened
person re: FIV since she was here, because she didn't even mention the
FIVs mixed with the others today

\--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

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RE: visit from animal control

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Good for your daughter! (Hope there were no 
repercussions)

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10, 2005 7:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
visit from animal control
You guys aught to appreciate this
When I got a visit from animal control a few years back my positives were 
kept in my room...
4 I think.
the officer told my daughter I was contaminating the house cause Felv is 
airborne
My daughter threw her out 

see our available 
orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 
817-453-4888
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Re: visit from animal control

2005-11-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Yeah sadly it did not turn out well
I wasn't there to protect them



RE: Annie is gone

2005-11-10 Thread Chris
Sounds like Annie left a piece of her heart with that little feral...  I'm
sure you will remember her everything time she snuggles up it will be just
like Annie.  What a wonderful story...  and how great you are to let these
little ones come to you on their own terms... 

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Annie is gone

Sadly I have to report another FeLV+ has passed on today...
Annie was a beautiful calico with a white milk mustache...
She came to live with me about a year and a half ago...
She was a stray who was brought into a shelter in NJ...
She had a huge gash in her side probably from a car
but she was healing well from that but she tested pos
and had to live in a cage with the dogs at the vets...
The dogs didn't seem to bother her and she was friendly
with people and she was friendly with me until I brought
her in the room with my other FeLV+ cats...She established
her own corner with a window of her own and kept everyone
else out...I gave her her own food and box there and she
would let me pat her if no one else was around
 
About a month ago she stopped eating and we found she
had become anemic ...I put her in my isolation cage and
put her on vitamins the vet gave us and got her eating AD..
After a few days she seemed to be getting better and badly
wanted out of the cage so I let her out...
For a few days she was impossible to catch and didn't always
get her vitamins but soon she started to slide again and she was
easy to catch and medicate and we started seringe feeding...
She took that easily and we had her gaining weight again...
 
In the process she was spending more and more time on my
bed where the rest of the cats all hang out and soon my feral
cat who won't let me pat her but was very quick to make friends
with the other cats was able to snuggle with Annie
The best thing of this is now the feral cat has suddenly decided
it is OK to be touched by humans and she even let me pick her
up for a minute without struggling
 
I have been following Wendy and Cricket as it has been so close
to Annie...Yesterday she was too weak to make it to her litter box
even though I had placed it up level with the bed for her...This was
her first accidentI was struggling with the same thought of if I
should PTS but she seemed to rest comfortably and took the
seringe feedings fairly well...We had gone to smaller feedings more
oftenI was so happy when Wendy decided to try the feeding tube
yesterday as I was looking to Wendy for guidance But then it
was so very sad to here this morning that Cricket had passed during
the nightAnnie ate well for a bit but then stopped swallowing and
then again the next feeding she didn't want to take anything
Shortly after that she was resting on my stomach as I patted her
and she let out a cry and then I noticed that she had stopped breathing...
It was over...I believe she was comfortable and new she was loved
right up to the end...
 
Some are very close all their life and others. like Anie its just at the end
but it doesn't make it any easier to say good buy.
Michelle said it all.. But it does not get easier, as far as I can 
tell.  Just less surprising.
 
I will miss you sweet Annie and I hope we do get to meet again
Tad








RE: visit from animal control

2005-11-10 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



I'm so sorry. That's awful.

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10, 2005 7:23 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
Re: visit from animal control
Yeah sadly it did not turn out well
I wasn't there to protect them

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Wendy and Tad

2005-11-10 Thread Sheila208
I'm so sorry you had to lose your babies. You will be in my prayers.

Sheila in SC