Re: Important
Dear Belinda Want to first wish you well for tomorrow's surgery, and a speedy recovery. Please take it easy -- lots of rest and tlc. I'll be thinking of you and sending positive vibes. I wasn't going to send you my CLS until you had put the surgery behind you, but now I've seen your email, I'll send you Pookie's details. Coming up shortly...as always, thanks so much for all you do Belinda. take care, and all the best for tomorrow Kerry - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty
Thanks. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Becca DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: To Marylyn Re Kitty Marylyn wrote: Please add to that prayer that, if she can't get better, she be allowed to leave this world peacefully, on her own terms and without assistance. She totally hates car rides and vets. Let her Maker take her into His Loving Hands quietly and quickly and gently. Given the extent of the cancer and her wishes, this is the kindest prayer and it is mine. I found myself having to pray the same prayer...of course I asked for healing, but if there could not be healing, comfort. I wish the same for Kitty. Becca
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
First I am so very sorry about this. Know That Pookie loves you and is very grateful to you for all the love and care he gave you. Second When you have healed a little you need to send copies of everything, including a new letter to whatever boards govern vets in your county and state as well as the nation. Unless complaints are filed this will continue. You might consider contacting various media personalities that are "animal people" in your area. There is no excuse for ever ending a life. Here you have to sign releases. Obviously that was not done. Again, my heart aches for you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so
Re: Important
Hi Janine, I'm very sorry to hear about Miss Priss, she with Brenda now and helping her keep a watchful eye on her family on earth. I will add her to the service, but it will be after I get home and am able to sit at the computer. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: question
Cody also has a problem with most of the cats, he doesn't understand kitty hiearchy, but it's been 4 years now and the spats get further and further apart, he still doesn't really like anyone but they do tolerate each other better. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Important Surgery : Tonya
A friend of mine just had one and she was back on the computer within 3 days of getting home. I like the sound of that :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Important Surgery : Tonya
Go to bedBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine just had one and she was back on the computer within 3 days of getting home. I like the sound of that :)-- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Miss Priss Kerry
Janine so so sorry to hear about your mom and your dear little miss priss. My prayers are with you. They will be helping each other in their new life now. Kerry - I had'nt realised your father was terminally ill too as I am catching up with mail - Positive thoughts coming your way too. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry I am so sorry that you was not able to be there in his final moment.I would be so upset too.Just know that you loved him and gave him a save and loving home and he knew that.Bless you. SherryMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First I am so very sorry about this. Know That Pookie loves you and is very grateful to you for all the love and care he gave you. Second When you have healed a little you need to send copies of everything, including a new letter to whatever boards govern vets in your county and state as well as the nation. Unless complaints are filed this will continue. You might consider contacting various media personalities that are "animal people" in your area. There is no excuse for ever ending a life. Here you have to sign releases. Obviously that was not done.Again, my heart aches for you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinicBelinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: ImportantHi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
oh mygod, Kerry, I am so sorry. If you are up to it, I think you should write a letter to the board that regulates/oversees vets in your state as well. Michelle
Re: Odo ban
Interesting. I had major allergy problems with Oxiclean. I broke out in the world's worst itchy rash with enough swelling that my face looked like I had been in a major fist fight--and lost. This happened twice. And the rash (even with medical attention --several trips to the all hours clinics) lasted for over a week each time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Odo ban I heard about odo- ban from a friend in greyhound rescue. I have used it to clean carpets and NOT had a problem with it. I used a small amount with oxiclean. (Oxiclean is the bomb for cleaning carpet spots. but the odoban helped with the smell.)It was onlywhen I tried using it in laundry (which it is approved for on the label)that I had the problems. So probably itwill be fine. But better safe than sorry! It is environmentally better than using bleach as well, so I really wanted to use it on soiled rugs and the sheets and mattress covers I use on the furniture for when someone decides to use the furniture (or my bed) rather than journey to the litterbox. The problems only came when I used it on the sheets for my bed or furniture covers. t tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree. Sorry. This is a consideration with anything. The trick is it can be returned to Sam's in 90 with proof of purchase. Guess this depends on how close Sam's is to you. Also---use it about quarter strength...not full strength. Further, you can use it on a small part at one strength and either repeat or increase the amount. I have never met anyone who had problems with it. However, I have problems with items no one else has had. Thanks for pointing this out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Odo ban Wendy, One caution here.. I've used odo-ban in the past. First, the odor IS overwhelming to me. 2nd, I have tried it on laundry when I had a relative over who is allergic to bleach.. well, I broke out in a rash from using odo-ban in place of bleach. I get allergic reactions fairly easily, so I'm not 'normal' in that arena. I get rashes with various medications, etc But that said, you might want to try a little first and make sure you like it and no one does have any kind of reaction to it. (My cats didn't just me. lol ) Anyway, I don't think I would go buy a bunch and treat a huge area, full strength, at one time without doing a 'test' area first.. for smell, and for allergic reactions. Just my opinion. tonyaMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About $10. for a gallon that makes 32 gallons. Given what I think you are up against I would make it make 8 gallons. I'm not sure what that would cover but bet 2 gallons will more than take care of anything you need. If you like it as much as I do, you will keep finding uses for it. And the flower odor is not overwhelming or fake.You might want to call your Sam's and make sure they are doing what they are in Louisville (letting non members in).
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry, I recently posted information on making a complaint against a vet (the post was titled Texas vets, Suki, and the vet abuse network). Here is the link: http://www.vetabusenetwork.com/savetoc.htm I don't know what the laws are in your state governing veterinary protocol, but I would be surprised if in all states veterinarians are not required to notify owners BEFORE they euthanise, not to mention GET PERMISSION!!! I strongly urge you to file a complaint with your state's veterinary board (I hope it's not Texas). This angers me so much. Who does this vet think they are to make that decision to exclude you when the Pookie left this Earth? My blood pressure just seriously shot up. I hope you are able to get some closure and justice against this vet who made a bad and hurtful decision in my opinion. At the VERY LEAST, you are owed a written apology. I will keep you in my prayers. Again, I am so sorry this happened to Pookie and to you. Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry,I am so sorry for your loss and doubly sorry for how horribly it was handled. I hope whoever this vet is that he gets an earful. You might want to call your state veterinary board or state dept of agriculture (who in most states oversees veterinarians.) I don't think that is even legal. I have usually had to sign papers to have my cat euthanized. I am so sorry. Pookie knows you loved him though. And I know he's grateful to have found a loving home with you after all he had been through. I have been through experiences with euthanasia that haunted me as well. You have to try to make peace with them, but I know it's hard.take care, tonyaKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry, that's just horrible - I'm so sorry. I've been subject to lousy vet care, but this is just terrible. I just want you to know that you have my sympathy and am sending you lots of prayers and energy to heal and move through this terrible event.Prayers for Pookie too - my Mr. Black Kitty was the skinniest dude I'd seen, a wonderful FELV angel, and is there at the bridge to help your Pookie.GloriaOn Apr 5, 2006, at 2:14 AM, Kerry MacKenzie wrote:Belinda,Can you please add my darling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS.Pookie was euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life).Pookie was 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again.A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though I remained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-off that I was not going anywhere, the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously I never saw the X-rays either.)I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers.Pookie was a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summer with Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days.The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time, curled around my head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss him very much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap.Kerry - Original Message -From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AMSubject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Odo ban
That is interesting... It goes to show how different we all are I guess. I've never had problems putting oxi clean in with the clothes. But I do haveproblems with any kind of Clorox 2 type bleach for colored clothes. I stick now with bleach and oxi clean. for anything that's going to touch me.tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I had major allergy problems with Oxiclean. I broke out in the world's worst itchy rash with enough swelling that my face looked like I had been in a major fist fight--and lost. This happened twice. And the rash (even with medical attention --several trips to the all hours clinics) lasted for over a week each time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Odo banI heard about odo- ban from a friend in greyhound rescue. I have used it to clean carpets and NOT had a problem with it. I used a small amount with oxiclean. (Oxiclean is the bomb for cleaning carpet spots. but the odoban helped with the smell.)It was onlywhen I tried using it in laundry (which it is approved for on the label)that I had the problems. So probably itwill be fine. But better safe than sorry! It is environmentally better than using bleach as well, so I really wanted to use it on soiled rugs and the sheets and mattress covers I use on the furniture for when someone decides to use the furniture (or my bed) rather than journey to the litterbox. The problems only came when I used it on the sheets for my bed or furniture covers.ttMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree. Sorry. This is a consideration with anything. The trick is it can be returned to Sam's in 90 with proof of purchase. Guess this depends on how close Sam's is to you. Also---use it about quarter strength...not full strength. Further, you can use it on a small part at one strength and either repeat or increase the amount. I have never met anyone who had problems with it. However, I have problems with items no one else has had. Thanks for pointing this out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Odo banWendy,One caution here.. I've used odo-ban in the past. First, the odor IS overwhelming to me. 2nd, I have tried it on laundry when I had a relative over who is allergic to bleach.. well, I broke out in a rash from using odo-ban in place of bleach.I get allergic reactions fairly easily, so I'm not 'normal' in that arena. I get rashes with various medications, etcBut that said, you might want to try a little first and make sure you like it and no one does have any kind of reaction to it. (My cats didn't just me. lol )Anyway, I don't think I would go buy a bunch and treat a huge area, full strength, at one time without doing a 'test' area first.. for smell, and for allergic reactions.Just my opinion.tonyaMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About $10. for a gallon that makes 32 gallons. Given what I think you are up against I would make it make 8 gallons. I'm not sure what that would cover but bet 2 gallons will more than take care of anything you need. If you like it as much as I do, you will keep finding uses for it. And the flower odor is not overwhelming or fake.You might want to call your Sam's and make sure they are doing what they are in Louisville (letting non members in).
Re: Odo ban
I have a friend who only does laundry with "Dreft" because other detergents make her break out.GloriaOn Apr 5, 2006, at 9:26 AM, catatonya wrote:That is interesting... It goes to show how different we all are I guess. I've never had problems putting oxi clean in with the clothes. But I do have problems with any kind of Clorox 2 type bleach for colored clothes. I stick now with bleach and oxi clean. for anything that's going to touch me. tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Interesting. I had major allergy problems with Oxiclean. I broke out in the world's worst itchy rash with enough swelling that my face looked like I had been in a major fist fight--and lost. This happened twice. And the rash (even with medical attention --several trips to the all hours clinics) lasted for over a week each time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From: catatonyaTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:16 PMSubject: Re: Odo banI heard about odo- ban from a friend in greyhound rescue. I have used it to clean carpets and NOT had a problem with it. I used a small amount with oxiclean. (Oxiclean is the bomb for cleaning carpet spots. but the odoban helped with the smell.) It was only when I tried using it in laundry (which it is approved for on the label)that I had the problems. So probably it will be fine. But better safe than sorry! It is environmentally better than using bleach as well, so I really wanted to use it on soiled rugs and the sheets and mattress covers I use on the furniture for when someone decides to use the furniture (or my bed) rather than journey to the litterbox. The problems only came when I used it on the sheets for my bed or furniture covers. t tMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have to agree. Sorry. This is a consideration with anything. The trick is it can be returned to Sam's in 90 with proof of purchase. Guess this depends on how close Sam's is to you. Also---use it about quarter strength...not full strength. Further, you can use it on a small part at one strength and either repeat or increase the amount. I have never met anyone who had problems with it. However, I have problems with items no one else has had. Thanks for pointing this out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From: catatonyaTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:46 PMSubject: Odo banWendy, One caution here.. I've used odo-ban in the past. First, the odor IS overwhelming to me. 2nd, I have tried it on laundry when I had a relative over who is allergic to bleach.. well, I broke out in a rash from using odo-ban in place of bleach. I get allergic reactions fairly easily, so I'm not 'normal' in that arena. I get rashes with various medications, etc But that said, you might want to try a little first and make sure you like it and no one does have any kind of reaction to it. (My cats didn't just me. lol ) Anyway, I don't think I would go buy a bunch and treat a huge area, full strength, at one time without doing a 'test' area first.. for smell, and for allergic reactions. Just my opinion. tonyaMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:About $10. for a gallon that makes 32 gallons. Given what I think you are up against I would make it make 8 gallons. I'm not sure what that would cover but bet 2 gallons will more than take care of anything you need. If you like it as much as I do, you will keep finding uses for it. And the flower odor is not overwhelming or fake.You might want to call your Sam's and make sure they are doing what they are in Louisville (letting non members in).
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
I am so sorry to hear about Pookie. That is horrible what happened. You are in my prayers. Cindy --- Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you please add my darling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookie was euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookie was 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though I remained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-off that I was not going anywhere, the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously I never saw the X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookie was a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summer with Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time, curled around my head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss him very much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Pookie
I am so shocked to hear this Kerry. I would probably have agreed to euthanase in that situation by choice to help my kittie to stop suffering if they were not breathing properly due to tumors and lung fluid at age 16 but I can't imagine that choice being taken away from me. I would be the one helping them in their time of need and certainly there to help comfort them as theypass to the bridge. It actually sickens me to think a vet considered he had the right to euthanase withoutdiscussing thiswith you and giving you the option of being withPookie at this crucial time. I would certainly complain about the vet as Pookie was your baby even though he only had you 5 months he obviously loved you and trusted you. I hope you find justice and I'm sure Pookie knew you loved him. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Oh Kerry, I'm so sorry. This is terrible beyond words...I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel.Becca Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: ImportantHi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!!I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home fromthe hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I willgive it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, willget the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry, I'm so, so sorry. What that vet did is horrible. I am so glad you wrote the clinic owners. I have come across bad vet care on occasion but never anything like that.I know there isn't anything I can say to take your pain away but I hope at some point you will be able to think more often of the night he spent curled around your head than the way he died. Reading that made me smile - tose littlepaws holding on to you. Even tho you didn't have him long you had a special relationship that will last forever.Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: ImportantHi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Subject: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry I am truly sorry for your loss of Pookie. At least Pookie had a good last part of his life with love and understanding that he recieved from you. Working in rescue I know how hard it is to loose a foster and the mishandling at clinics is just horrible at times. I know that Pookie is watching over you and happy that he had found you at least at the time where he need the most love. Hopefully the haunting will end in your mind, sometime no matter how hard we try to be perfect parents we can not help some events that are out of our control. You did the best you can and should not have any guilt you gave him a better life in the short time he had with you. carla Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 02:14:18 -0500 From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Belinda, Can you please add my darling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookie was euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookie was 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though I remained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-off that I was not going anywhere, the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously I never saw the X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookie was a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summer with Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time, curled around my head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss him very much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
oh, kerry, i am SO sorry--there's nothing that i can say that others haven't; just know that Pookie understands that you loved him and made his last months joyful and safe. THOSE are the memories he took with him on his unexpected trip to the bridge; luckily, our cats know that humans are fallible and he knows what was in your heart. -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Pookie
Kerry, He even did this while you were on the premises waiting!! I would seek legal advice - he might do this to others!!! God bless you and your dear Pookie. Bonnie http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 9:46 am Subject: Pookie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I am so shocked to hear this Kerry. I would probably have agreed to euthanase in that situation by choice to help my kittie to stop suffering if they were not breathing properly due to tumors and lung fluid at age 16 but I can't imagine that choice being taken away from me. I would be the one helping them in their time of need and certainly there to help comfort them as they pass to the bridge. It actually sickens me to think a vet considered he had the right to euthanase without discussing this with you and giving you the option of being with Pookie at this crucial time. I would certainly complain about the vet as Pookie was your baby even though he only had you 5 months he obviously loved you and trusted you. I hope you find justice and I'm sure Pookie knew you loved him. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
RE: Pookie
I am so very sorry for your loss of Pookie - I am so afraid to find out what happened to him by reading the emails so I haven't read your original email. But I am figuring out that he was euthanized by your vet without your permission. I am so devastated by what happened to Pookie, Kerry. I am crying for Pookie - I am so sorry that this happened to Pookie - I am so pissed about this vet. As for Pookie, please know that he knows that you loved and still love and care about him so very much.. and his soul is right besides you - so please know that and talk to him. I know that I say this to everyone who lost their babies, but it's very true - so please don't be too lonely - he is watching you right besides you. Love and big hugs to Pookie and you... Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACH Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:34 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Pookie Kerry, He even did this while you were on the premises waiting!! I would seek legal advice - he might do this to others!!! God bless you and your dear Pookie. Bonnie http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 9:46 am Subject: Pookie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I am so shocked to hear this Kerry. I would probably have agreed to euthanase in that situation by choice to help my kittie to stop suffering if they were not breathing properly due to tumors and lung fluid at age 16 but I can't imagine that choice being taken away from me. I would be the one helping them in their time of need and certainly there to help comfort them as they pass to the bridge. It actually sickens me to think a vet considered he had the right to euthanase without discussing this with you and giving you the option of being with Pookie at this crucial time. I would certainly complain about the vet as Pookie was your baby even though he only had you 5 months he obviously loved you and trusted you. I hope you find justice and I'm sure Pookie knew you loved him. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Kerry, That's simply awful. I hope that your efforts to be satisfied are fruitful. Goodnight, sweet Pookie... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady Earth and Family Safe Products! http://www.moreinfo247.com/9162990/VCLNice Offers! www.niceoffers.com/9162990 Buy Avon Online! http://www.youravon.com/theresabrown - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Important Hi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take
Re: Pookie has gone. Horribly mishandled by clinic
Oh Kerry, I can only imagine what you're going through. I can only add to the general consensus that we are all pulling for your efforts with the follow-up to be effective. HUGSKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda, Can you please add mydarling negative foster kitty Pookie to the CLS. Pookiewas euthanized on Monday March 27 (read on for the way this was mishandled by the clinic, which will haunt me for the rest of my life). Pookiewas 16 or 17 and had chronic renal failure. He had also been deaf all his life--he was white with blue eyes, and apparently white cats with blue eyes are often deaf. I took him to the animal hospital associated with the shelter on Monday morning as his breathing seemed labored and he didn't seem to want to eat (he ate from my fingers in the end) or drink. I fully expected to take him home again. A terrible thing happened at the clinic. Even though Iremained in the waiting area of the clinic and had even told the intake receptionist when she asked if it was a drop-offthat I wasnot going anywhere,the vet euthanized Pookie without telling me. He apparently had tumors and fluid on the lungs. (Obviously Inever sawthe X-rays either.) I don't have to explain to anyone on this list how that felt. That I wasn't there to hold and comfort him in his ultimate time of need--even though I was just feet away--will haunt me forever. I wrote a strong letter to the clinic owners the next day, copying the shelter CEO (PAWS), and wrote a second letter today in response to theirs, which raises more questions than it answers. Pookiewas a wonderful little guy, bearing his illness and his subQs with fortitude and dignity. He had had a hard life. His guardian, a domestic violence victim, had fled their home last summerwith Pookie. She and Pookie lived in a car for some time; it was so hot that she was buying ice bags to keep them both cool. She found her way to a women's shelter, but as they wouldn't take pets, he was transferred to Paws. An observant volunteer noticed he was withdrawn and pushed the shelter director to get him fostered with me (apparently it wasn't straightforward--lot of bad feeling between the volunteer and the director). I am so glad that she did that. Pookie was a joy to have around. I was very concerend about my cats bullying him--he was skin and bone and must have weighed about 5 or 6 lb--but he soon ruled the roost in our house using brain, since he no longer had the benefit of brawn, and had even young thug Tiger whipped into shape within days. The last night he soent here, Sunday, he slept, for the first time,curled aroundmy head, with his little paws gripping my hair. He also had this cute little habit of licking my hands and arms. Although I had the privilege of sharing my home with Pookie for only 5 months (apart from a short break when he went back to his original guardian--it didn't work out) he was the most physically affectionate and loving of all my cats. I loved the little fellow dearly and miss himvery much. For such a little fellow he truly has left a huge gap. Kerry - Original Message - From: "Belinda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: ImportantHi All, Not sure if I've written to this group yet or not, the days are all blurring together. My hard drive on my computer died last week and I lost all of my emails and a few other things. I don't know who had written to add a furchild to the list (I had forgotten my own password and it took my 2 days to figure it out and be able to check my email again). I need anyone with a furchild that passed last week and this week to resend it so I can add them to the service, please send dates and if they were FeLV positive or not thanks. That's 5 things in a row that have gone wrong since the year started, though it was suppose to come in 3's??!! I will try and check my email atleast once a day after I get home from the hospital, if anything is urgent please mark it as such so I will give it attention first. Ok, time to feed Bailey and get to bed, will get the service tomorrow after I get he furkids to add. Take care all. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
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Kerry, I am so sorry you lost your pet that way! I would be livid. I am sure Pookie is with all the other sweet babies, playing and jumping around like the kittens thay all were. Belinda, I must have missed the email about your surgery I hope you are okay? Take care and heal fast. Too you all, thank you for taking the time to say something about Priss. She was a love and I know she is with mom now. Love Janine -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself. - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 3/17/2006
