date:20060501

Just another thought...  I've been adding RR, just a few drops to all 
the water bowls, it might be my imagination, but it seems to help.  It 
sounds like Cotton is pretty high strung, (biting his humans, I'm 
assuming when he's had enough attention, but not giving you adequate 
warning that it's coming, fighting etc.).  I might think about dosing 
him directly with some RR on the inside tips of his ears, or a few drops 
into the side of his mouth.  Do you have any Feliway spray, or the plug 
ins?  I'd put one in the isolation rooms, or spray the heck out of them 
twice a day, esp on Cricket's and Cottons favorite napping spots.  You 
might want to even ask your vet for advice on meds to help Cotton mellow 
out.  I hate medicating for what seems like behavior problems, but it 
isn't good for him to be so stressed.  I'm sure there are homeopathics 
for this sort of thing, but I don't know enough about them to recommend 
anything.  There's a group for acute health problems and discussions on 
how/what to treat holistically.  You may want to poke your head in there 
and see if anyone has any advice for you.  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H4Animals/


Hugs to you and your problem children,
Nina

Re: mixing


Sandy,
From what I understood about vaccines, if Cricket was vaccinated even 
just once with a booster, than she should have been protected.  Sorry to 
be a pest, but are you absolutely sure that her kitten vaccines included 
felv?  Most of the vets I've used don't vaccinate for felv unless 
expressly asked to.  Your news about Cricket kind of shoots my theory to 
hell, if she was indeed vaccinated, (esp more than once), for felv and 
she had tested neg as a kitten, and she was an adult when she was 
exposed to felv...  She could be the exception to the rule, but it isn't 
good news for mixing in general, or of course, for poor Cricket. 

Eww!  I wanted to squirt that bad boy Cotton when I read about how he 
terrorized little Cricket.  I'm ashamed to say he may have gotten flying 
lessons if he had been in my presence during that litterbox ambush!  Is 
there any way you could set up a schedule that Cotton is isolated at the 
same time every day, while Cricket has free roam?  You could give Cotton 
something special, like a small bowl of tuna when he's locked up.  When 
he sees that he gets let out again, you know, after it becomes routine, 
he may stop the howling.  When Cricket figures out that Cotton is locked 
up when she's free, maybe she'll start to feel more secure again.  That 
way Cricket will have time to enjoy the house and not feel like she has 
to be looking over her shoulder, or feel like she's being punished in 
seclusion because that little bully has come to live with you. 

My Kimba Cat had the same terrified reaction to one of our new arrivals, 
Spencer.  Spence never attacked Kimba, but Kimba hid out for days after 
I let Spence out of isolation for a test run at acclimation to gp.  When 
Kimba ventured out I noticed he had bright red blood on the fur under 
his tail.  It seemed to be mixed with urine so I panicked and we spent 5 
hours at the ER clinic.  I felt so bad about my assumptions about why he 
was hiding and that I hadn't checked for health reasons for it.  The 
problem turned out to be a nasty bite at the base of his tail that was 
just starting to access.  I don't know if it was all the quality alone 
time we had at the vet, (they had us in an exam room most of the time 
waiting our turn, and even though Kimba was scared, he was purring on my 
lap and really enjoying the attention), or the fact that I promised him 
he wouldn't have to contend with Spencer until he was ready, but he's 
back to feeling more confident and not hiding anymore. When I give 
Spencer trial runs now, I lock Kimba in the garage.  God I hate 
discord!  I still don't know who inflicted the wound on Kimba Cat.  I 
suspect it was one of our Husky/Chow "fosters", Maggie.  Twice I caught 
Maggie chasing cats out of the bedroom in the middle of the night, (the 
second and last time, so far, she got such a scolding that I certainly 
hope she won't do it again).  The bite wounds on Kimba's tail are on 
either side and seem too big for a cat, they seem more likely to have 
been caused by snapping dog teeth.  I'm hoping it wasn't inflicted on 
purpose.

Nina

Dudes wrote:


Hi Nina:

The vet didn't say what grade murmur, but when I take her back to him, 
I will ask.


Cricket was tested as a kitten and was negative.  She received 
boosters every 3 years, since I am not a big advocate of just 
vaccinating for the heck of it for everything once a year, since my 
cats are 100% indoors.   So she had her initial kitten shots, then a 
booster at age 3.  All 3 cats were exposed to Cotton at the beginning, 
since we didn't know Cotton was sick. We got Cotton at the end of 
August last year, his housemate who also was living with us then died 
in late September, and we had all the cats tested by ELISA by October 
or so.  Cotton's was positive and confirmed by IFA. Cricket's was 
weakly positive, but we thought it might be from exposure. Miss and 
Myca were negative and they were boostered.


Cotton got sick shortly after that, in I think November, and since I 
was saving for his possible ultrasound, we couldn't afford another 
test until January.  Because Cricket tested positive, we got her 
checked first, and went with the IFA, which came back positive, much 
to my disappointment. Cotton has been well, but I strongly suspect 
that he is still actively shedding the virus, since he has passed it 
to two cats.  Cricket unfortunately started many fights with him, 
stole his food before we knew he was FeLV+, but she didn't really put 
many wounds on him.


Cotton bites and scratches and fights for real, while most of 
Cricket's attacks are bluff and posturing and noise:  Cricket does 
lots of screaming, lots of paws flying, but very little biting on her 
part.   Poor Cricket has bald spots on her back, neck and ears where 
Cotton beat her up.   When he got to her, fur would fly.  A lot of her 
fur.  Once he ambushed her in the litterbox within 10 seconds of 
escaping someone's arms, he made a beeline for her and tore her up.

sweet small FELV+ one eyed female cat needs home

2006-05-01 Thread Jenn




Mia is the first cat on this page: 
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Re: Heart Murmurs

2006-05-01 Thread Tad Burnett

I think it was Callie Cat that had a murmur when she was 1st brought in 
in Tenn..
When she got here 3 weeks later my vet couldn't hear a murmur with her 
but did
hear one in Winky who was also very anemic and died in his sleep a few 
weeks later...
When Callie crashed in just a few hours time I got her to the vet early 
in the morning

and the 1st thing he said was she has a bad heart murmur
When he drew blood he had a hard time because her supply of blood was 
very low..

Blood test showed no kidney function...

I am wondering if the murmur can be related to the condition of the blood...
Did the vet do a blood test???.. Can it be an early warning of failure ???
Is the 3rd eye lid showing more than usual... I read somewhere that that 
is an
indicator of low blood count and I think all of mine that have passed 
that has

been an early indicator

I wonder if a blood transfusion at an early stage would buy more quality 
life

if done before a crash that must do damage to other internal organs...
Tad

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sandy, did your vet tell you what grade the heart murmur is?

The Sphynx rescue list I am also on gets on the topic of heart murmurs 
periodically
(I suppose it's a risk of the breed), most of the cats on that list with 
murmurs are
doing really good though. You hear more about bad heart problems in Maine Coon 
cats,
but you said your cat is a little black kitty (I assume short haired), so it's
probably not due to heredity (though there is a slight hereditary risk in 
American
and British Shorthairs). There are medications they can prescribe for it if it 
is a
severe enough murmur. I don't think there's anything different about a murmur 
in a
FELV+ cat than in a negative cat.

Here are a few good websites on heart murmurs in cats (and things to watch out 
for,
and some resources for finding a specialist or cardiac veterinary program):
http://dsl.org/hcm/
http://www.holisticat.com/hcm.html
http://www.portlandvetspecialists.com/library/heartdisease4.html
http://www.sphynxbc.org/cardo.htm
http://old.bsava.com/vcs/testing/menu.htm
http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/cardio/


Jenn
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Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
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RE: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol

2006-05-01 Thread Chris










You know, shelters can
receive reimbursement for all those expenses.. including HW treatment….

 



Chris

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Subject: Re: Question about
"home" test kits-esp Nina,lol

 



Ok,
here's the "story" in a nutshell..





First,
yes, I know about SNAP, I know they can be ordered online,I know they're
considered the "best". BUT, they are too pricey.





 





The
shelter I am affiliated with is a  501(c)3, and Idexx gives us a
shelter discount, which is HUMONGOUS





However,
since we are No-Kill, and it IS kitten season (joy,joy -NOT!!), the shelter is
NOT taking any more cats, not even kittens!!





PLUS -
They will not sanction anyone "fostering" strays, as they always did
in the past. (Reimbursement for food, meds, vx's, S/N)





 





Much of
this is due to the fact that they helped in the Katrina rescue effort.  A
little overboard, IMO. They made 3 trips, each time with 6 people, and footed
the entire bill, courtesy of the rescue's . And, they stayed at motels, ate
out, you get my point.





Also,
they had 42 HW positive dogs they had to treat.  You do the math.





Now,
don't get me wrong, I was/am very PRO Katrina rescues, but this shelter really
couldn't afford to absorb the cost of 3 trips..





Now,
the "local" homeless/strays have to suffer.





 





Also,
we have been told, that they will not order/provide ANYTHING for us that have
started doing "independent rescue".  Nice, huh?  After 25+
years, I can't even get a single tube of eye ointment!





My
friend and I, who religiously do the Adoption events EVERY week, are inundated
with cries for help!





How can
I/we say no?  Especially when we know what the "fate" of these
babies will be??





 





We need
to test all these (un)sanctioned strays, prior to adoptions.  Just was
hoping for a more dollar friendly option.





 





Frustrated,





Patti

Re: mixing

2006-05-01 Thread Dudes


Hi Nina:

The vet didn't say what grade murmur, but when I take her back to him, I 
will ask.


Cricket was tested as a kitten and was negative.  She received boosters 
every 3 years, since I am not a big advocate of just vaccinating for the 
heck of it for everything once a year, since my cats are 100% indoors.   So 
she had her initial kitten shots, then a booster at age 3.  All 3 cats were 
exposed to Cotton at the beginning, since we didn't know Cotton was sick. 
We got Cotton at the end of August last year, his housemate who also was 
living with us then died in late September, and we had all the cats tested 
by ELISA by October or so.  Cotton's was positive and confirmed by IFA. 
Cricket's was weakly positive, but we thought it might be from exposure. 
Miss and Myca were negative and they were boostered.


Cotton got sick shortly after that, in I think November, and since I was 
saving for his possible ultrasound, we couldn't afford another test until 
January.  Because Cricket tested positive, we got her checked first, and 
went with the IFA, which came back positive, much to my disappointment. 
Cotton has been well, but I strongly suspect that he is still actively 
shedding the virus, since he has passed it to two cats.  Cricket 
unfortunately started many fights with him, stole his food before we knew he 
was FeLV+, but she didn't really put many wounds on him.


Cotton bites and scratches and fights for real, while most of Cricket's 
attacks are bluff and posturing and noise:  Cricket does lots of screaming, 
lots of paws flying, but very little biting on her part.   Poor Cricket has 
bald spots on her back, neck and ears where Cotton beat her up.   When he 
got to her, fur would fly.  A lot of her fur.  Once he ambushed her in the 
litterbox within 10 seconds of escaping someone's arms, he made a beeline 
for her and tore her up.  I had to bathe her to get all the litter and urine 
and blood out of her wounds.  He's a real little devil.  He even bites us 
with no warning or reason and then runs off.


We thought Cricket lost weight, but the vet said she didn't.  But we've 
noticed she has become more and more depressed and panicked if she cannot be 
in our bedroom to hide, but now that Cotton is neutered, he seems less 
interested in her.  She is still very upset by him.  All she has to do is 
smell him on someone and her tail bushes up.  We haven't had a bad fight in 
about 2 months.  Cricket is due to go back in for her heart murmur check in 
2 weeks.Her appetite is good, but she has days where she won't come out 
and days when she seems happy and less anxious.


I have tried everything, even a cat door to my bedroom, which Cotton figured 
out in about 15 seconds how to open.  He is very wiley and strong for such a 
small cat, and can open even heavy french doors, he knocks over glasses and 
has broken more stuff than I care to share.  He has to stay with us much of 
the time so we can watch him.  Sometimes he is just too wild and we have to 
shut him in the bedroom for a timeout.  I don't think he ever sleeps during 
the day unless he's alone.  When we confine him, he yowls loudly.  He's 
always up in someone's business.  He's like a hyperactive child.  Cotton 
finally had to be neutered despite the risk to his health, which has helped. 
But now we don't take any chances, as he did so much injury to Cricket, we 
keep them apart as much as possible.

Sandy

- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: mixing



Hi Sandy,
My Grace developed a heart murmur and it didn't seem to give her any 
trouble, she was pos and succumbed to anemia.  I had her on Coq10, I don't 
know if it helped or not, but I've heard good things about it from others. 
I did hear that it shouldn't be stopped once started, I'm sorry I don't 
have any info to back that up.  You might want to ask your vet about it, 
although many vets are not up on sups and their benefits.  I've not heard 
that felv cats are more susceptible to heart murmurs.  As Jenn suggested, 
you should find out what grade heart murmur it is before you stress out 
about it too much.


Could you please clarify for us exactly what the situation was with 
Cricket testing pos?  I know that Cricket is 6 yrs old and you had her 
before you got Cotton.  I know that the two of them have been fussing 
since day one and that Cricket has been depressed and stressed out by his 
presence.  What I don't know is if Cricket had ever been tested before 
Cotton's arrival, or if Cricket had been vaccinated for felv before Cotton 
came to live with you.  Could you tell us again how long you've had Cotton 
and how long you waited to test Cricket the second time with the IFA.  I'm 
a big advocate for mixing and I'd really be interested to know what the 
specifics are.


Of course I too hope that all your babies stay healthy and strong.  While 
we're hoping, let's put in a plea that Cricket and Cotton f

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol





In a message dated 5/1/06 6:36:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hmmm. now that i don't know--but wouldn't the shelter let you AT 
  LEAST order the kits through them? if you handed them a check with the 
  order (oh, i know, it may not)

MC~
NOPE!!! Already inquired about that.
Fact is, they have MANDATED NO MORE
Pretty shi**y, huh?
Also, they make the rules, and one must follow.Or, basically, you're 
O-U-T!! They want total control.  What a shame, since so many animals may 
perish.  Heck, you'd think they would be ecstatic that people were willing 
to take some of the load off
Starting to get very peeved.  Don't understand their logiic.
Patti

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol




Hideyo~
I REFUSE to pay the outrageous online prices for the kits online... Good 
god, they want almost $400!!!  Highway robbery!
The shelter gets the "Shelter Discount", less than $200...
So, this is why I am in such a dilemma.  I can draw the blood myself, 
saving vet fees, and if I had my own (affordable) tests, I'd be in 
heaven..
But, just got news, a Dr. who is a sponsor for the shelter might spring for 
the $$'s(And, the shelter WILL get the tests for him, no questions asked. 
Just proves the theory "Money walks".
Let's keep praying.
Patti

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?




We've had success using Lysine, and with ordinary sterile saline 
solution 3-4X day.
Also, believe it or not, Antirobe.
Patti

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?





I hadn't heard that either.  Geeze Karen, who was gutsy enough to try
that one??  
Nina

Rachel Martineau wrote:

  Really?  I didn't realize you could give it directly in the
eye.  Hmmm, definitely something I'm going to suggest to the vet if
upping the Lysine and adding Felivite don't show some improvement soon.
   
  Thanks Karen!
  
 
  On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
  
  

Rachel,
I used the human interferon directly in the eyes.
believe it or not it works.
Karen

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?





Thanks Jenn, I'll be saving this one.  I just wanted to add that my dad
was having problems with chronic eye infections/stys that he just
couldn't seem to shake with antibiotics.  Since I knew to use the
Lysine with our kitties, I bought him a bottle.  Well, the eye
infection cleared up in less than a week!  How about that?!
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  My Greek sponsor cat ( http://ucat.us/Tremy/ )
is having GREAT results using the below treatment course for his Herpes
Virus infection:
   
  One treatment is Interferon and L-Lysine(which is an immune
system booster to help his own body fight it off). Interferon is
available from a vet, but L-Lysine is over the counter (you can find it
at a health food store). A treatment for the active infection would be
Acyclovir (Zovirax) which is an oral anti-viral and an antibiotic
(either Doxycycline, Azithromycin or Rifampin). Those used in
conjunction with Vit A supplementation and Viroptic eye drops (or
Idoxuride/Betadine eye drops or Chloramphenical eye drops since
Viroptic is expensive) really work great to clear up the active
infection. Once cleared, the patient should remain on the Vit A,
Interferon and L-Lysine to prevent future recurrences. They should also
be kept stress-free. Of course, you should always get the permission
form the vet before doing any of this. Similar diseases (that cause
similar symptoms) are Bartonella, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma (all of
which can occur along with Herpes). 
L-Lysine 500mg twice a day
Interferon 10 units orally once a day for 7 days, stop for 7 days, then
give 10 units orally once daily for 7 days (and so one)
Doxycycline 5 mg per pound twice daily for 6 weeks
Azithromycin 5 mg per pound once daily for 21 days
Rifampin 5 mg per pound once a day for 21 days 
For Vit A supplement you can use Felivite 2 with Taurine (it contains
Vit A as well as a few others to help with immune boosting)
Eye Drops are usually dosed three times a day (use caution to use
NOTHING containing a steroid as steroids will actually aggravate the
eye and make it worse)
  
All of these dosages came from The Journal of the American Animal
Hospital Association Jan/Feb 2004, pg 6-12 
  
  
Jenn
  http://ucat.us 
  http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
  
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
  http://ucat.us/adopt.html 
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone
wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont
to find him a good home!
  http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
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Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




yeah this list recommended it hmmm four years ago my vet blew a 
fit.
but nothing else worked but that.
Karen

Re: Lab Test Discrepancies





Hi Marlene,
Thank your for posting what you found out about platelets degrading
after 6 hours.  That's really good to know.  Damn, there are just so
many things to be aware of!  I love this group!!

Such wonderful news that Pekoe is not only hanging in there, but seems
to be doing pretty darn well.  Hooray for him and hooray for his mom! 
I was wondering how you guys were doing, thanks for letting us know. 
I'm not great at reading blood results, (thanks for posting the
norms!), but his look pretty promising.  

Did you ever learn more about the availability of Interferon Omega in
Canada?

Once again, I'm thrilled to hear that you and Pekoe are doing well. 
I'm glad you're going to be able to taper him off the Pred soon.  Such
good news.  Many prayers that he continues to improve and you have many
happy years together,
Nina

Marlene Chornie wrote:

  
  
  
  Hi All,
   
      I took Pekoe for some follow-up blood work a couple of weeks
ago.  Both his vet and I learned something that neither of us knew
before.  The lab where we send the blood work to is located approx. 3
hrs. away, and the samples are sent on a daily basis by courier.  The
last couple of times, the vet clinic has prepared a slide to look at
his Platelet Count themselves, as well as send a sample off to the
lab.  The vet clinic runs the count manually (meaning they count the
number of platelets seen per field), whereas the lab runs the count by
machine.  Pekoe's last Platelet Count from the lab was 11 (N = 93 -
514), yet the vet clinic counted 4 - 5 platelets per field, and saw 8
in one field - their Normal Range is 2 - 9 per field.  They called the
lab because they couldn't understand why there was such a difference in
the two values.  Come to find out, Platelets degrade or break down
after 6 hrs!!  The lab told the vet clinic to go by their clinic test
because it would be more accurate than the lab's.  Whenever I take
Pekoe for blood work, I usually take him at 9:30 am.  The clinic looks
at the slide before I even leave.  Now, their courier leaves at 2:00
pm, so by the time the lab receives the samples it would most likely be
around 5:00 pm.  But, the lab doesn't run the samples until the next
morning.  So, even though samples are properly preserved/refrigerated,
the time elapsed is going to affect especially a Platelet Count.  Who
knew!!
      Pekoe continues to do well on the Interferon Alpha regime,
and the higher dose of Prednisone.  We're going to be able to start
reducing the dose of Prednisone now.  His last blood work was as
follows:
   
  WBC - 11.2 - was 8.4 (N = 4.2 - 13)
  RBC - 6.1 - was 5.6 (N = 6.2 - 10.6)
  Hb - 111 - was 107 (N = 93 - 153)
  PCV - 30% - was 32% (N = 28 - 49%)
  MCV - 50 - was 58 (N = 39 - 52)
  MCH - 18 - was 19 (N = 13 - 17)
  MCHC - 365 - was 335 (N = 300 - 344)
  RDW - 21.6 - was 19.7 (N = 14 - 17)
  T.S. Protein - 81 - was 80 (N = 60 - 80)
  Seg Neutrophil Count - 8.85 - was 4.54 (N = 2.1 - 8.3)
   
  Taking it one day at a time,
  Marlene
  Pekoe & Angel Digby

Re: testing....

On 1 May 2006 at 21:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Or you Charter people could just sign up at yahoo or hotmail 
> and use one of those external mail accounts...

Thanks for the suggestion, Jenn. I've offered it before with some 
resistance. Folks seem to prefer to use their own mail systems. But, 
we have to go with what works. I'll keep y'all apprised of the 
situation. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.felineleukemia.org

Re: mixing


Hi Sandy,
My Grace developed a heart murmur and it didn't seem to give her any 
trouble, she was pos and succumbed to anemia.  I had her on Coq10, I 
don't know if it helped or not, but I've heard good things about it from 
others.  I did hear that it shouldn't be stopped once started, I'm sorry 
I don't have any info to back that up.  You might want to ask your vet 
about it, although many vets are not up on sups and their benefits.  
I've not heard that felv cats are more susceptible to heart murmurs.  As 
Jenn suggested, you should find out what grade heart murmur it is before 
you stress out about it too much.


Could you please clarify for us exactly what the situation was with 
Cricket testing pos?  I know that Cricket is 6 yrs old and you had her 
before you got Cotton.  I know that the two of them have been fussing 
since day one and that Cricket has been depressed and stressed out by 
his presence.  What I don't know is if Cricket had ever been tested 
before Cotton's arrival, or if Cricket had been vaccinated for felv 
before Cotton came to live with you.  Could you tell us again how long 
you've had Cotton and how long you waited to test Cricket the second 
time with the IFA.  I'm a big advocate for mixing and I'd really be 
interested to know what the specifics are.


Of course I too hope that all your babies stay healthy and strong.  
While we're hoping, let's put in a plea that Cricket and Cotton figure 
out a way to get along and stop stressing each other and everyone else out!

Nina

Dudes wrote:

What does every(any)one think about the new appearance of a heart 
murmur in my Cricket?  Is this an uncommon symptom to appear in FeLV+ 
cats?  I can't find much in research on the web.


And I am not sure that I feel the same way about mixing positives and 
negatives since Cricket is now positive.  My vet says FeLV is the 
"friendly cat" disease, because cats that groom each other are most at 
risk of passing it along.  Cricket and Cotton are anything but 
friendly to each other.   But she did test positive for it before she 
and Cotton fought enough to draw blood and cause wounds.  I just hope 
they both stay well, and my other two cats stay negative.

Sandy C.
Cricket, Cotton, Miss and Myca

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread Rachel Martineau

Really?  I didn't realize you could give it directly in the eye.  Hmmm, definitely something I'm going to suggest to the vet if upping the Lysine and adding Felivite don't show some improvement soon.
 
Thanks Karen! 
On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Rachel,
I used the human interferon directly in the eyes.
believe it or not it works.
Karen

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread Rachel Martineau

I've been giving him L-Lysine 500 mg for 3 weeks.  I'll try bumping that up to 1000 mg and see how he does.  I've never tried the Felivite 2, so I'll give that a try too. 
 
Thanks for all the suggestions and details Jenn! 
 
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My Greek sponsor cat ( http://ucat.us/Tremy/ ) is having GREAT results using the below treatment course for his Herpes Virus infection:

 
One treatment is Interferon and L-Lysine(which is an immune system booster to help his own body fight it off). Interferon is available from a vet, but L-Lysine is over the counter (you can find it at a health food store). A treatment for the active infection would be Acyclovir (Zovirax) which is an oral anti-viral and an antibiotic (either Doxycycline, Azithromycin or Rifampin). Those used in conjunction with Vit A supplementation and Viroptic eye drops (or Idoxuride/Betadine eye drops or Chloramphenical eye drops since Viroptic is expensive) really work great to clear up the active infection. Once cleared, the patient should remain on the Vit A, Interferon and L-Lysine to prevent future recurrences. They should also be kept stress-free. Of course, you should always get the permission form the vet before doing any of this. Similar diseases (that cause similar symptoms) are Bartonella, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma (all of which can occur along with Herpes). 
L-Lysine 500mg twice a dayInterferon 10 units orally once a day for 7 days, stop for 7 days, then give 10 units orally once daily for 7 days (and so one)Doxycycline 5 mg per pound twice daily for 6 weeksAzithromycin 5 mg per pound once daily for 21 days
Rifampin 5 mg per pound once a day for 21 days For Vit A supplement you can use Felivite 2 with Taurine (it contains Vit A as well as a few others to help with immune boosting)Eye Drops are usually dosed three times a day (use caution to use NOTHING containing a steroid as steroids will actually aggravate the eye and make it worse)
All of these dosages came from The Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association Jan/Feb 2004, pg 6-12  
Jennhttp://ucat.us 
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html
 PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!
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Re: testing....




Or you Charter people could just sign up at yahoo or hotmail and use one of 
those external mail accounts...
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Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?


lysine is great for herpes you can get the more-expensive
vet-supplied stuff, or just get it in bulk from health-food
stores.

On 5/1/06, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My vet recommends Viralys (L-Lysine) for eye/virus problems.  I don't know
if it will help in your case or not but it has helped clear up eye problems
(undiagnosed because the cats where untouchable ferals with one exception).






 If you
have men who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the
shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal
likewise with their fellow man.

  St. Francis

- Original Message -
From: Rachel Martineau
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:50 PM
Subject: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

I have the sweetest little FeLV+ lion in foster right now.  Peanut came to
me from a hoarder situation in terrible shape with another FeLV+ guy who we
lost the same day to a ruptured bladder.  He has improved a lot, but still
has this nasty herpes conjunctivitis that just will not clear up!

He's off all antibiotics, which I only use when it's dire.  I'm open to any
suggestions - herbal, mineral, vitamins, etc...  Anything that's worked for
someone in the past, I'll try.

Thanks!
Rachel

Operation Foster Felix





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AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?




My Greek sponsor cat ( http://ucat.us/Tremy/ ) is having GREAT 
results using the below treatment course for his Herpes Virus infection:
 
One treatment is Interferon and L-Lysine(which is an immune system booster 
to help his own body fight it off). Interferon is available from a vet, but 
L-Lysine is over the counter (you can find it at a health food store). A 
treatment for the active infection would be Acyclovir (Zovirax) which is an oral 
anti-viral and an antibiotic (either Doxycycline, Azithromycin or Rifampin). 
Those used in conjunction with Vit A supplementation and Viroptic eye drops (or 
Idoxuride/Betadine eye drops or Chloramphenical eye drops since Viroptic is 
expensive) really work great to clear up the active infection. Once cleared, the 
patient should remain on the Vit A, Interferon and L-Lysine to prevent future 
recurrences. They should also be kept stress-free. Of course, you should always 
get the permission form the vet before doing any of this. Similar diseases (that 
cause similar symptoms) are Bartonella, Chlamydia, and Mycoplasma (all of which 
can occur along with Herpes). L-Lysine 500mg twice a dayInterferon 10 
units orally once a day for 7 days, stop for 7 days, then give 10 units orally 
once daily for 7 days (and so one)Doxycycline 5 mg per pound twice daily for 
6 weeksAzithromycin 5 mg per pound once daily for 21 daysRifampin 5 mg 
per pound once a day for 21 days For Vit A supplement you can use Felivite 2 
with Taurine (it contains Vit A as well as a few others to help with immune 
boosting)Eye Drops are usually dosed three times a day (use caution to use 
NOTHING containing a steroid as steroids will actually aggravate the eye and 
make it worse)All of these dosages came from The Journal of the American 
Animal Hospital Association Jan/Feb 2004, pg 6-12 
Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: 
We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for 
pictures), and more towels! 
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Re: testing....

On 1 May 2006 at 21:27, TenHouseCats wrote:

> ah, but does he see US?

Fortunately, I was able to create a temporary work-around so that I 
can now receive the list again. Unfortunately, I've not heard 
anything back from my ISP (Charter.net) yet. If anyone else ever has 
trouble getting FeLVTalk mail, they can read it at: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk%40felineleukemia.org/  

Also, if anyone has problems with the list, please contact me 
privately to alert me. Take care, and best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.felineleukemia.org

Re: Heart Murmurs (was: mixing)

Sandy, did your vet tell you what grade the heart murmur is?

The Sphynx rescue list I am also on gets on the topic of heart murmurs 
periodically
(I suppose it's a risk of the breed), most of the cats on that list with 
murmurs are
doing really good though. You hear more about bad heart problems in Maine Coon 
cats,
but you said your cat is a little black kitty (I assume short haired), so it's
probably not due to heredity (though there is a slight hereditary risk in 
American
and British Shorthairs). There are medications they can prescribe for it if it 
is a
severe enough murmur. I don't think there's anything different about a murmur 
in a
FELV+ cat than in a negative cat.

Here are a few good websites on heart murmurs in cats (and things to watch out 
for,
and some resources for finding a specialist or cardiac veterinary program):
http://dsl.org/hcm/
http://www.holisticat.com/hcm.html
http://www.portlandvetspecialists.com/library/heartdisease4.html
http://www.sphynxbc.org/cardo.htm
http://old.bsava.com/vcs/testing/menu.htm
http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/cardio/


Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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Re: mixing

2006-05-01 Thread Dudes

What does every(any)one think about the new appearance of a heart murmur in 
my Cricket?  Is this an uncommon symptom to appear in FeLV+ cats?  I can't 
find much in research on the web.


And I am not sure that I feel the same way about mixing positives and 
negatives since Cricket is now positive.  My vet says FeLV is the "friendly 
cat" disease, because cats that groom each other are most at risk of passing 
it along.  Cricket and Cotton are anything but friendly to each other.   But 
she did test positive for it before she and Cotton fought enough to draw 
blood and cause wounds.  I just hope they both stay well, and my other two 
cats stay negative.

Sandy C.
Cricket, Cotton, Miss and Myca

Original Message - 
From: "TenHouseCats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: mixing


for what it's worth, because it's not really definite, i just read on
one of the health lists that the FeLV vaccination protocol is
currently being revised, as was done for the other main
vaccinations. don't know how long a process this is/will be, but
will share anything i learn when i do!

On 4/30/06, Dudes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I know it's been a long time, but I started a new job at the beginning of
the year, and things were kind of stressful for all of us here at home for 
a

while, but in the meantime, I have been reading when I can in lurk.

I do have an update on my cats that relates to this thread, even if a 
little

late.

If anyone may remember, we took in Cotton, the little orange cat who did 
not

have a stable home, but who is now a little over a year old.  After his
former housemate died, we discovered to our great upset, that he is FeLV+.

But I guess a good diet and stable routine at home among other things have
agreed with him, because he's been really well.  My other three older
established cats, Myca, Miss and Cricket were all tested shortly after we
found out about Cotton,and Myca and Miss both tested negative. But Cricket
tested positive in the office the last time she went.

When I last talked to the list, Cotton had a bout of  illness which landed
him in the vet ER, and subsequently it was recommended that he have an
ultrasound of his liver and kidneys, as they were enlarged.  But I felt
compelled to have him examined again, as the xray which prompted this
recommendation was taken when he was quite ill and rather dehydrated. 
When

I did take him back in, the vet said he didn't need it after all.  His
abdomen palpated within normal range, and his bloodwork is all normal.  He
said we can just treat him like a normal cat now, he just needs more
frequent checkups.  I had him neutered, he never missed a beat, and his
behavior (spraying, fighting with Cricket) has improved somewhat.  He also
got a rabies vaccine, which didn't seem to bother him at all.

My worries are now about my petite all-black female Cricket, who is now 
six.

She has been in a few bad fights with Cotton despite our efforts to keep
them separate, since she hates him.  Both of them have had some bite 
wounds

which drew blood.  I had her tested a few weeks ago by IFA, and she is
positive.  She was not showing any symptoms of viremia, but she did have a
heart murmur on her checkup, and although I hesitated, she got her rabies
vaccine, and it did seem to be hard on her. For a couple of days she 
seemed
tender at the injection site, and was quieter than usual.  Other than 
that,

she is well.

My theory about Cricket is that she was (and still is) the most highly
stressed by Cotton's arrival, and perhaps the affect on her immune system
contributed to her contracting FeLV.  The other two cats were boostered
once, and continue to be negative.

Anyone have any experience with heart murmurs?  I also wonder how this
relates to her FeLV+ status?  She has not ever had a murmur before. The 
vet
is going to recheck her, and if it is still present, he will order an 
echo,
which I agree should be done promptly.  She has an appointment in two 
weeks

to be re-evaluated.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Sandy Carter
Myca, Miss, Cricket and Cotton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]











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Re: testing....

ah, but does he see US?
On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




I see ya!

 
In a message dated 5/1/2006 12:29:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry for the clutter, folks. Just testing the list. Thanks.James G. Wilson - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.felineleukemia.org


 
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Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread Marylyn




My vet recommends Viralys (L-Lysine) for eye/virus 
problems.  I don't know if it will help in your case or not but it has 
helped clear up eye problems (undiagnosed because the cats where untouchable 
ferals with one exception). 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rachel 
  Martineau 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:50 PM
  Subject: Advice for Conjunctivitis 
  Remedy?
  
  I have the 
  sweetest little FeLV+ lion in foster right now.  Peanut came to me from a 
  hoarder situation in terrible shape with another FeLV+ guy who we lost the 
  same day to a ruptured bladder.  He has improved a lot, but still has 
  this nasty herpes conjunctivitis that just will not clear up! 
  
   
  He's off all 
  antibiotics, which I only use when it's dire.  I'm open to any 
  suggestions - herbal, mineral, vitamins, etc...  Anything that's worked 
  for someone in the past, I'll try. 
   
  Thanks!
  Rachel
   
  Operation 
  Foster Felix

Re: Idexx seminar on FELV and FIV - May 30 Englewood, Colorado




And here's another one... different subject, still FELV and FIV, but more 
on new standards in care. There has to be a way for us to get the info from 
these things!
 
http://www.idexx.com/animalhealth/education/seminars/little_retro.jsp
Jennhttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
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Idexx seminar on FELV and FIV - May 6 Spokane, Washington




Anybody local to this? I wonder if there's anything new being said there? 
How would we get the info from this seminar?
 
http://www.idexx.com/animalhealth/education/seminars/ford_retro.jsp 
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Re: Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




Rachel,
I used the human interferon directly in the eyes.
believe it or not it works.
Karen

Advice for Conjunctivitis Remedy?

2006-05-01 Thread Rachel Martineau

I have the sweetest little FeLV+ lion in foster right now.  Peanut came to me from a hoarder situation in terrible shape with another FeLV+ guy who we lost the same day to a ruptured bladder.  He has improved a lot, but still has this nasty herpes conjunctivitis that just will not clear up!

 
He's off all antibiotics, which I only use when it's dire.  I'm open to any suggestions - herbal, mineral, vitamins, etc...  Anything that's worked for someone in the past, I'll try.

 
Thanks!
Rachel
 
Operation Foster Felix

Re: testing....

2006-05-01 Thread TatorBunz





I see ya!
 
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Lab Test Discrepancies

2006-05-01 Thread Marlene Chornie




Hi All,
 
    I took Pekoe for some follow-up blood work a couple of 
weeks ago.  Both his vet and I learned something that neither of us knew 
before.  The lab where we send the blood work to is located approx. 3 hrs. 
away, and the samples are sent on a daily basis by courier.  The last 
couple of times, the vet clinic has prepared a slide to look at his Platelet 
Count themselves, as well as send a sample off to the lab.  The vet clinic 
runs the count manually (meaning they count the number of platelets seen per 
field), whereas the lab runs the count by machine.  Pekoe's last Platelet 
Count from the lab was 11 (N = 93 - 514), yet the vet clinic counted 4 - 5 
platelets per field, and saw 8 in one field - their Normal Range is 2 - 9 per 
field.  They called the lab because they couldn't understand why there was 
such a difference in the two values.  Come to find out, Platelets degrade 
or break down after 6 hrs!!  The lab told the vet clinic to go by their 
clinic test because it would be more accurate than the lab's.  Whenever I 
take Pekoe for blood work, I usually take him at 9:30 am.  The clinic looks 
at the slide before I even leave.  Now, their courier leaves at 2:00 pm, so 
by the time the lab receives the samples it would most likely be around 5:00 
pm.  But, the lab doesn't run the samples until the next morning.  So, 
even though samples are properly preserved/refrigerated, the time elapsed is 
going to affect especially a Platelet Count.  Who knew!!
    Pekoe continues to do well on the Interferon Alpha 
regime, and the higher dose of Prednisone.  We're going to be able to start 
reducing the dose of Prednisone now.  His last blood work was as 
follows:
 
WBC - 11.2 - was 8.4 (N = 4.2 - 13)
RBC - 6.1 - was 5.6 (N = 6.2 - 10.6)
Hb - 111 - was 107 (N = 93 - 153)
PCV - 30% - was 32% (N = 28 - 49%)
MCV - 50 - was 58 (N = 39 - 52)
MCH - 18 - was 19 (N = 13 - 17)
MCHC - 365 - was 335 (N = 300 - 344)
RDW - 21.6 - was 19.7 (N = 14 - 17)
T.S. Protein - 81 - was 80 (N = 60 - 80)
Seg Neutrophil Count - 8.85 - was 4.54 (N = 2.1 - 8.3)
 
Taking it one day at a time,
Marlene
Pekoe & Angel Digby

RE: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol

2006-05-01 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









How much are you paying for SNAP online?

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Question about
"home" test kits-esp Nina,lol



 



Ok, here's the "story" in a
nutshell..





First, yes, I know about SNAP, I know
they can be ordered online,I know they're considered the
"best". BUT, they are too pricey.





 





The shelter I am affiliated with is
a  501(c)3, and Idexx gives us a shelter discount, which is HUMONGOUS





However, since we are No-Kill, and it IS
kitten season (joy,joy -NOT!!), the shelter is NOT taking any more cats, not
even kittens!!





PLUS - They will not sanction anyone
"fostering" strays, as they always did in the past. (Reimbursement
for food, meds, vx's, S/N)





 





Much of this is due to the fact that they
helped in the Katrina rescue effort.  A little overboard, IMO. They made 3
trips, each time with 6 people, and footed the entire bill, courtesy of the
rescue's . And, they stayed at motels, ate out, you get my point.





Also, they had 42 HW positive dogs they
had to treat.  You do the math.





Now, don't get me wrong, I was/am very
PRO Katrina rescues, but this shelter really couldn't afford to absorb the cost
of 3 trips..





Now, the "local"
homeless/strays have to suffer.





 





Also, we have been told, that they will
not order/provide ANYTHING for us that have started doing "independent
rescue".  Nice, huh?  After 25+ years, I can't even get a single
tube of eye ointment!





My friend and I, who religiously do the
Adoption events EVERY week, are inundated with cries for help!





How can I/we say no?  Especially
when we know what the "fate" of these babies will be??





 





We need to test all these (un)sanctioned
strays, prior to adoptions.  Just was hoping for a more dollar friendly
option.





 





Frustrated,





Patti

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol

hmmm. now that i don't know--but wouldn't the shelter let you AT LEAST order the kits through them? if you handed them a check with the order (oh, i know, it may not)
On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


MC~
Thanks
Question, since I do have my "own" official 501(c)3 card, through the shelter, can I set up a separate account with them in "my" name (Using the SAME #)
That would be so lovely
Patti

 
PS~ Yes, I did get the e-mail from you.  Personally, I have been so frazzled,soon to be fried, I didn't notice if it was from the list or you. Sorry.
 -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol




MC~
Thanks
Question, since I do have my "own" official 501(c)3 card, through the 
shelter, can I set up a separate account with them in "my" name (Using the 
SAME #)
That would be so lovely
Patti

 
PS~ Yes, I did get the e-mail from you.  Personally, I have been so 
frazzled,soon to be fried, I didn't notice if it was from the list or you. 
Sorry.

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol

don't know if you got my private email, patti, but idexx will sell to ANY 501(c)3 at the same discount--have you checked with other independent rescues? i know of places where one got the official discount, and purchased for lots of other groups

On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok, here's the "story" in a nutshell..
First, yes, I know about SNAP, I know they can be ordered online,I know they're considered the "best". BUT, they are too pricey.
The shelter I am affiliated with is a 501(c)3, and Idexx gives us a shelter discount, which is HUMONGOUS
However, since we are No-Kill, and it IS kitten season (joy,joy -NOT!!), the shelter is NOT taking any more cats, not even kittens!!
PLUS - They will not sanction anyone "fostering" strays, as they always did in the past. (Reimbursement for food, meds, vx's, S/N)
Much of this is due to the fact that they helped in the Katrina rescue effort. A little overboard, IMO. They made 3 trips, each time with 6 people, and footed the entire bill, courtesy of the rescue's . And, they stayed at motels, ate out, you get my point.

Also, they had 42 HW positive dogs they had to treat. You do the math.
Now, don't get me wrong, I was/am very PRO Katrina rescues, but this shelter really couldn't afford to absorb the cost of 3 trips..
Now, the "local" homeless/strays have to suffer.
Also, we have been told, that they will not order/provide ANYTHING for us that have started doing "independent rescue". Nice, huh? After 25+ years, I can't even get a single tube of eye ointment!
My friend and I, who religiously do the Adoption events EVERY week, are inundated with cries for help!
How can I/we say no? Especially when we know what the "fate" of these babies will be??
We need to test all these (un)sanctioned strays, prior to adoptions. Just was hoping for a more dollar friendly option.
Frustrated,
Patti
-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: Question about "home" test kits-esp Nina,lol




Ok, here's the "story" in a nutshell..
First, yes, I know about SNAP, I know they can be ordered online,I know 
they're considered the "best". BUT, they are too pricey.
 
The shelter I am affiliated with is a  501(c)3, and Idexx gives 
us a shelter discount, which is HUMONGOUS
However, since we are No-Kill, and it IS kitten season (joy,joy -NOT!!), 
the shelter is NOT taking any more cats, not even kittens!!
PLUS - They will not sanction anyone "fostering" strays, as they always did 
in the past. (Reimbursement for food, meds, vx's, S/N)
 
Much of this is due to the fact that they helped in the Katrina rescue 
effort.  A little overboard, IMO. They made 3 trips, each time with 6 
people, and footed the entire bill, courtesy of the rescue's . And, they 
stayed at motels, ate out, you get my point.
Also, they had 42 HW positive dogs they had to treat.  You do the 
math.
Now, don't get me wrong, I was/am very PRO Katrina rescues, but this 
shelter really couldn't afford to absorb the cost of 3 trips..
Now, the "local" homeless/strays have to suffer.
 
Also, we have been told, that they will not order/provide ANYTHING for us 
that have started doing "independent rescue".  Nice, huh?  After 25+ 
years, I can't even get a single tube of eye ointment!
My friend and I, who religiously do the Adoption events EVERY week, are 
inundated with cries for help!
How can I/we say no?  Especially when we know what the "fate" of these 
babies will be??
 
We need to test all these (un)sanctioned strays, prior to adoptions.  
Just was hoping for a more dollar friendly option.
 
Frustrated,
Patti

Re: List spam

Hi Pam and all, I was on the phone with Charter for over an hour 
trying to get this resolved. They are still looking into it and will 
call me back when they figure out the problem. This is particularly 
troubling since I, too, use Charter.net for my internet service. I'll 
keep y'all posted. Best wishes to all.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.felineleukemia.org

List spam

2006-05-01 Thread Pam Norman




I talked to Charter this morning about why I was 
not receiving mail from the list from the 26th today & they told me that 
Charter is blocking all incoming list mail due to "uncontrolled 
spam."
I don't know if anything can be done about it, but 
I've asked Charter to stop blocking it to me. Probably won't get 
anywhere.
 
Pam
 
Hurricane Katrina's terrible message:  if it 
is too dangerous for YOU to stay behind as a disaster approaches, then why would 
you leave your PETS behind?  Never ever ever leave them behind!  Have 
enough crates for all & take them with you!  They are your 
family!

testing....

Sorry for the clutter, folks. Just testing the list. Thanks.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.felineleukemia.org

RE: Prayers for Demetri again

2006-05-01 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









Sherry, I will be praying for Demetri and
sending him a healing energy!

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Becca DuBose
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:32
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Prayers for Demetri
again



 

Sherry,

I hope Demetri is well soon.

Becca


Sherry DeHaan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi all my sweet Demetri is pretty sick again,he sounds so bad,it sounds
like a URI but I worry so much when they have felv.He has the sweetest little
face.I pray that he can fight it off.Dr. Jen was going to check on him
tonight.Thanks all for you good thoughts.





Sherry









Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get
it on your phone.

my periodic reminders!


for everyone to add themselves to our FeLVTalk frappr map:

http://www.frappr.com/felvtalk/

and to PLEASE list any veterinarians you know who work with FeLVs and
FIVs! that makes it so much easier for new folks to maybe find
competent, compassionate help when they are faced with the
diagnosis. (thanks again, belinda, for maintaining this!)

http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=display_sub&category_id=113&website=default&session=445622f74b3e8d92

(i'm gonna make someone a great secretary someday.)

--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina & Hideyo!!


i mentioned the new vaccine to a vet tech who cohosts with me at
www.cathobbyist.com, and she's gonna look into it and see what she can
find out--she knows that in her area they're using the nasal vaccine a
lot i remember, tho, when the first FeLV vaccine came out and was
considered so ineffective--i wonder how and if these have been tested
for efficacy.  (you all know my theory about how difficult it is
to do research on a population when the main treatment for that group
is automatic euthanasia.)



On 4/30/06, Kerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Susan. I still can't believe it. I wanted it so much for the others
but they succumbed. And now by some miracle Mickey has made it.

- Original Message -
From: Susan Hoffman
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: Some good news--and thanks to Nina & Hideyo!!

Congrantulations.  This gives me great hope as well for an FeLV+  I have in
a foster home.

Kerry MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's some good news.
But first, the background for those who don't know it: of the feral colony
of 5 kittens (Caramel, Levi, Flavia, Snoball and Mickey) and I adult cat
(Momcat) I took in in December 2003, 4 of the kittens ---Caramel, Levi,
Flavia & Snoball--tested positive in Feb 2004 and all 5 kittens tested
positive in July 2004. Momcat tested negative both times.
All were quarantined in my 2nd bedroom, away from my 3 existing negative
cats. The 4 kitties that tested pos twice succumbed between November 2004
and July 2005. That left 1 pos, Mickey, and 1 neg, Momcat, both of whom I
continued to quarantine. They were buddies and it would have been cruel to
separate them, particularly as Momcat appeared immune to FeLV.
My dream has been that Mickey would revert to neg, and I could then
integrate them both in my household. Hope springs eternal as they say-- I
dreamed of that before, and it didn't come to pass.
Nonetheless for about 10 months, I dreamedand procrastinated over
re-testing them for a variety of reasons, not least fear of Mickey testing
pos again.
Today I trapped Mickey, had him re-tested, and..he's NEGATIVE!!!
Because I'm anal, I'm going to trap Momcat next weekend and have her tested.
I fully expect her to have remained negative. But, if by some horrible twist
of fate she is not (because she caught it from the pos kitties before they
passed away) I plan at lastto vaccinate my negs and integrate them
all anyway. There is a much better vaccination available now, and my vet has
the special equipment to do it.
This is such wonderful news on so many levels, not least because it
demonstrates -- again---that FeLV is simply not as contagious as most people
believe. Mickey lived with his siblings all his life, tested pos once, but
has thrown it off. And Momcat, who also lived with them all, never got it in
the first place. (And neither of them has ever been FeLV vaccinated!)
It's also something I'm going to highlight in the letter to Paula F in my
lobbying for the new Chicago PAWS shelter to have an FeLV annex. I had
intended the letter to be (finally) mailed on Friday. But I'm glad that it
wasn't!
I now want to thank Nina for coming to my rescue when I called her at 11pm
last night (1am my time) in a panic because Mickey walked into the trap way
before I expected him to. How could I reasonably expect him to stay there
all night? What was I going to do about his bodily needs?? Nina reassured me
a) that she has had to do that too on occasion (so I stopped feeling like a
monster) and b) advised me to elevate the trap and layer the floor with
paper. Sure enough, everything fell through the wire mesh on to the paper so
Mickey was not in the discomfort in which he would otherwise have been and
he survived the night.
And I have Hideyo to thank for the success of the next stage--I was gearing
up for a chase & catch battle in transferring Mickey from the cage to a
carrier to take to the vet (I don't have a car; so carrier is easier for
standing in street hailing cab). But Hideyo has a great technique that she
shared---uncover the cage the cat is in, and cover (or provide dark-colored)
carrier you want to transfer the cat to. The principle being that they will
always prefer the dark option. (Correct me if I'm wrong about the principle
Hideyo) Sure enough--my little feral Mickey WALKED from the cage straight in
to the carrier. No battle necessary!!
So, today is a happy day at no 603, to say the least.
Also, last but not least, I want to say, I'm sorry I continue to only post
sporadically. I pray for all your sick kitties and send healing vibes. And
my heart goes out to all those that have crossed the bridge.
I hope that I will be in a position to post more regualarly when I get back
from UK mid-June. (I go there mid May.) (I had a month's FMLA approved
yesterday, to be with my dad, who has Stage 3 cancer.)  I *really* miss
being part of the everyday list. This group is just the best

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