Re: Hi again :)
lol. i'm a teacher, and i'm always horrified when i see that i have made one of those kind of misteaks. lol. mistakes. t MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm a chat host; i read typo; i didn't even notice. MC On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:08 PM, catatonya wrote: > I meant NO way to know. oops. > > catatonya wrote: > > There is really know way to know, but the older they get, the better their > chances are. My positive is now 9 years old. > t > > Sue Koren wrote: > > Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive but not sick for a > certain length of time, if the chances are that they will not become sick? > Or could the sickness just come on them at any time regardless of how long > they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I hope that made some > kind of sense) > Sue > > MaryChristine wrote: > > = > yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time has passed so > that the virus can work itself out of the system. just as with initial > exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 days, depending > on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, so i don't > always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the current on-line > merck manual, and i never thought to keep the reference back when i > first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a case where it took > a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to revert to > negative on an IFA. > > generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since last possible > exposure, i figure they're not gonna seroconvert--but until/if the > virus gets activated, they're just positive, not sick. > > my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last summer solstice, > just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, so i'd say that > it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay positive. but it didn't > really matter, because it wasn't going to change anything one way or > another, so there was no rush here to retest > > and for those who don't know, all my others are either vaccinated, or > were inadvertently exposed almost eight years ago, so she's no threat > to anything other than my peace of mind--calico, after all. > > MC > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Laura B wrote: >> A few weeks ago I joined this list but couldn't post, so Belinda very >> kindly >> posted an introduction for myself and my FeLV+ kitty, Laura. Thank so much >> for the replies we got, we read them all. >> >> I wanted to send in a little update on Laura (still don't have a new name >> for her), she is doing very well. Most of her fur is growing back (she had >> bald patches) and since being on the l-lysine she is not drooling nearly >> as >> much (she had herpes lesions in her mouth). She seems to be settling in >> and >> loves her room with a view. I spend as much time with her as possible, and >> my nieghbor (another cat person) comes over daily to give her a snack and >> some lovin. >> >> I think she has also put on a little weight, which is good because she >> is quite thin, other than that she is doing well. My vet just had me bring >> her in and restest her, (IFA), she came back positive again. Do cats ever >> test neg on an IFA after testing positive? Vet also retested the three >> cats >> in her care that were positive on snap tests a month ago when she >> discovered >> Laura's status. Out of the three only one retested pos on an IFA test. >> >> Anyway, just wanted to pop in and thank you all, also give a little update >> on my sweet girl. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Human Laura and furry Laura >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___
Re: Hi again :)
i'm a chat host; i read typo; i didn't even notice. MC On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:08 PM, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I meant NO way to know. oops. > > catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is really know way to know, but the older they get, the better their > chances are. My positive is now 9 years old. > t > > Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive but not sick for a > certain length of time, if the chances are that they will not become sick? > Or could the sickness just come on them at any time regardless of how long > they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I hope that made some > kind of sense) > Sue > > MaryChristine wrote: > > = > yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time has passed so > that the virus can work itself out of the system. just as with initial > exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 days, depending > on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, so i don't > always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the current on-line > merck manual, and i never thought to keep the reference back when i > first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a case where it took > a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to revert to > negative on an IFA. > > generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since last possible > exposure, i figure they're not gonna seroconvert--but until/if the > virus gets activated, they're just positive, not sick. > > my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last summer solstice, > just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, so i'd say that > it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay positive. but it didn't > really matter, because it wasn't going to change anything one way or > another, so there was no rush here to retest > > and for those who don't know, all my others are either vaccinated, or > were inadvertently exposed almost eight years ago, so she's no threat > to anything other than my peace of mind--calico, after all. > > MC > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Laura B wrote: >> A few weeks ago I joined this list but couldn't post, so Belinda very >> kindly >> posted an introduction for myself and my FeLV+ kitty, Laura. Thank so much >> for the replies we got, we read them all. >> >> I wanted to send in a little update on Laura (still don't have a new name >> for her), she is doing very well. Most of her fur is growing back (she had >> bald patches) and since being on the l-lysine she is not drooling nearly >> as >> much (she had herpes lesions in her mouth). She seems to be settling in >> and >> loves her room with a view. I spend as much time with her as possible, and >> my nieghbor (another cat person) comes over daily to give her a snack and >> some lovin. >> >> I think she has also put on a little weight, which is good because she >> is quite thin, other than that she is doing well. My vet just had me bring >> her in and restest her, (IFA), she came back positive again. Do cats ever >> test neg on an IFA after testing positive? Vet also retested the three >> cats >> in her care that were positive on snap tests a month ago when she >> discovered >> Laura's status. Out of the three only one retested pos on an IFA test. >> >> Anyway, just wanted to pop in and thank you all, also give a little update >> on my sweet girl. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Human Laura and furry Laura >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: OT: Anyone near Durham, NC
I'm in SC... good luck http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif";>Paula Howell - Original Message From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:53:00 PM Subject: OT: Anyone near Durham, NC Sorry if this is too OT but I’m desperate! We are desperately looking for Houdini, a rescued gsd mix who got lost on Wed. 6/4/08. Below is her posting—if anyone has any suggestions on who we might contact to help look for her—she bolted in an area full of woods and may be hiding in there... This little one has been through so much and now I know she’s just hiding, so scared... Houdini is a spayed German Shepherd Mix with dark fur and tan highlights. She was rescued from a bad situation and may be afraid of people. She is very gentle but very shy. She may have a harness on and a trailing lead. She bolted when she got scared by a truck backfire. Lost between Old Farm & Summer Meadow, Durham 27704 on Wednesday afternoon, June 4,2008. PLEASE keep an eye out for her. Wonderful people from all over the country helped save Houdini and Morgan (her very best doggy friend). She just finished her heartworm treatment and has an adoptive home waiting for her. She does not know the area and may have trouble finding her way home. Houdini is microchipped. If you even think you see her, call Julius Bartell 919-698-8299 or 620-9898 immediately or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If she is hurt, you can bring her to her vet, Durham Animal Hospital, 4306 N. Roxbury Rd, Durham or to any vet for emergency treatment. This is a video that tells Houdini’s and Morgan (her best friend) story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vlo5UAqFpk Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
OT: Anyone near Durham, NC
Sorry if this is too OT but I'm desperate! We are desperately looking for Houdini, a rescued gsd mix who got lost on Wed. 6/4/08. Below is her posting-if anyone has any suggestions on who we might contact to help look for her-she bolted in an area full of woods and may be hiding in there... This little one has been through so much and now I know she's just hiding, so scared... Houdini is a spayed German Shepherd Mix with dark fur and tan highlights. She was rescued from a bad situation and may be afraid of people. She is very gentle but very shy. She may have a harness on and a trailing lead. She bolted when she got scared by a truck backfire. Lost between Old Farm & Summer Meadow, Durham 27704 on Wednesday afternoon, June 4,2008. PLEASE keep an eye out for her. Wonderful people from all over the country helped save Houdini and Morgan (her very best doggy friend). She just finished her heartworm treatment and has an adoptive home waiting for her. She does not know the area and may have trouble finding her way home. Houdini is microchipped. If you even think you see her, call Julius Bartell 919-698-8299 or 620-9898 immediately or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If she is hurt, you can bring her to her vet, Durham Animal Hospital, 4306 N. Roxbury Rd, Durham or to any vet for emergency treatment. This is a video that tells Houdini's and Morgan (her best friend) story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vlo5UAqFpk Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hi again :)
I meant NO way to know. oops. catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:There is really know way to know, but the older they get, the better their chances are. My positive is now 9 years old. t Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive but not sick for a certain length of time, if the chances are that they will not become sick? Or could the sickness just come on them at any time regardless of how long they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I hope that made some kind of sense) Sue MaryChristine wrote: = yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time has passed so that the virus can work itself out of the system. just as with initial exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 days, depending on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, so i don't always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the current on-line merck manual, and i never thought to keep the reference back when i first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a case where it took a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to revert to negative on an IFA. generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since last possible exposure, i figure they're not gonna seroconvert--but until/if the virus gets activated, they're just positive, not sick. my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last summer solstice, just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, so i'd say that it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay positive. but it didn't really matter, because it wasn't going to change anything one way or another, so there was no rush here to retest and for those who don't know, all my others are either vaccinated, or were inadvertently exposed almost eight years ago, so she's no threat to anything other than my peace of mind--calico, after all. MC On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Laura B wrote: > A few weeks ago I joined this list but couldn't post, so Belinda very kindly > posted an introduction for myself and my FeLV+ kitty, Laura. Thank so much > for the replies we got, we read them all. > > I wanted to send in a little update on Laura (still don't have a new name > for her), she is doing very well. Most of her fur is growing back (she had > bald patches) and since being on the l-lysine she is not drooling nearly as > much (she had herpes lesions in her mouth). She seems to be settling in and > loves her room with a view. I spend as much time with her as possible, and > my nieghbor (another cat person) comes over daily to give her a snack and > some lovin. > > I think she has also put on a little weight, which is good because she > is quite thin, other than that she is doing well. My vet just had me bring > her in and restest her, (IFA), she came back positive again. Do cats ever > test neg on an IFA after testing positive? Vet also retested the three cats > in her care that were positive on snap tests a month ago when she discovered > Laura's status. Out of the three only one retested pos on an IFA test. > > Anyway, just wanted to pop in and thank you all, also give a little update > on my sweet girl. > > Best regards, > > Human Laura and furry Laura > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Free emergency training
They have come here to do itquite expensive though.. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:25 AM, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sounds wonderful! > > have you ever looked into going through EARS training? they do that > all over, and it's definitely one i wish i were physically able to > do... > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Basic, Intermediate, Advanced Rescue Technician. > > > > I want to get at least the Intermediate. > > > > http://www.muttshack.org/Animal_Rescue_Certification_Prospectus.htm > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > Check out our Memsaic! > > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them > first > > as long as you leave me alone". > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hi again :)
USUALLY people get it when you phrase it that way--but some just don't. people would show up at the sanctuary saying they couldn't possibly keep their FeLV because it was going to die. so i guess that means we all have to give up loving anything that lives, huh? since they'll all die, sooner or later what a sad, boring life that would be--when it's so much easier to just love and love and love--and velcro the cats to the walls when they're driving you crazy. (yes, i'm kidding.) MC On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have ocassion to see the vet tech again, you might mention that > life has no guarantees and that we need to enjoy every second with > those we love..they may drop dead of a heart attach, cancer, > accidents, be struck by lightening (yes, I know several people who > have lost both 2-legged and 4-legged friends this way) etc. Perhaps > she will rethink either her beliefs or her hurtful wording. > On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Laura Mostello wrote: > >> I have had Duncan for a year now and he is fat, active and symptom- >> free. Now Celery and Baby Girl have joined him. They are all healthy >> and love each other's company. A vet tech said to me recently, >> "Enjoy your FeLV + cats while you have them, because they'll >> probably be dead within a couple of years." Nice. I've been upset >> about her comment since then, but with luck she'll be proven wrong. >> >> --- On Wed, 6/4/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: Hi again :) >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 6:26 PM >>> current wisdom is that positive cats can remain asymptomatic >>> for >>> years, until the virus is triggered. no one really knows, >>> however, >>> what it is that activates it. culprits high on the list are >>> serious >>> illnesses, but i know that at the sanctuary, we had >>> positive who got >>> very sick, were treated (often surgically) and recovered >>> quite fine to >>> go on for a number of years. stress is another thing >>> suspected of >>> awakening the virus, but how do you define that? the best >>> we can do is >>> the best we can do: give them as calm and safe and loving >>> an >>> environment as possible, feed them the best food that your >>> own >>> research tells you to (that varies because everyone has >>> their own >>> opinion, and last year before the pet-food recall, some >>> people were >>> accused of murdering their cats because they didn't >>> feed them things >>> that others thought they should--things that turned out, in >>> some >>> cases, to ACTUALLY kill, while the other foods did not); be >>> extra >>> vigilant about any health concerns or behavior changes, and >>> have them >>> attended to right away--and did i mention love them as long >>> as you >>> have them, because no matter how long that is, it won't >>> ever be long >>> enough. >>> >>> there are no guarantees for any of us--the healthiest cat >>> or dog or >>> human can drop dead tomorrow--to worry about it all the >>> time >>> accomplishes nothing, and probably creates a level of >>> stress that the >>> cats can pick up. >>> >>> there have been FeLVs in my life who have only had five >>> months to >>> share with me, and other whom i've known for >>> years--it's the quality >>> that matters. >>> >>> (and take lots of pictures--i get incredible joy from >>> looking at the >>> photos of the silly little furcritters that aren't >>> wandering this >>> earth anymore--and i just grin when i see their faces >>> looking out at >>> me, and remember how they graced my life.) >>> >>> MC >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Laurieskatz >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: YES. Squeaky tested positive at age 13 and lived to >>> age 22, symptom free except for his final 3 weeks. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of Sue Koren Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Hi again :) Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive >>> but not sick for a certain length of time, if the chances are that they >>> will not become sick? Or could the sickness just come on them at any time >>> regardless of how long they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I >>> hope that made some kind of sense) Sue MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: = yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time >>> has passed so that the virus can work itself out of the system. just >>> as with initial exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 >>> days, depending on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, >>> so i don't always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the >>> current on-line merck manual, and i never thought to kee
Re: Free emergency training
sounds wonderful! have you ever looked into going through EARS training? they do that all over, and it's definitely one i wish i were physically able to do... On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basic, Intermediate, Advanced Rescue Technician. > > I want to get at least the Intermediate. > > http://www.muttshack.org/Animal_Rescue_Certification_Prospectus.htm > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > Check out our Memsaic! > http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first > as long as you leave me alone". > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Free emergency training
Basic, Intermediate, Advanced Rescue Technician. I want to get at least the Intermediate. http://www.muttshack.org/Animal_Rescue_Certification_Prospectus.htm -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Hi again :)
If you have ocassion to see the vet tech again, you might mention that life has no guarantees and that we need to enjoy every second with those we love..they may drop dead of a heart attach, cancer, accidents, be struck by lightening (yes, I know several people who have lost both 2-legged and 4-legged friends this way) etc. Perhaps she will rethink either her beliefs or her hurtful wording. On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Laura Mostello wrote: > I have had Duncan for a year now and he is fat, active and symptom- > free. Now Celery and Baby Girl have joined him. They are all healthy > and love each other's company. A vet tech said to me recently, > "Enjoy your FeLV + cats while you have them, because they'll > probably be dead within a couple of years." Nice. I've been upset > about her comment since then, but with luck she'll be proven wrong. > > --- On Wed, 6/4/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Hi again :) >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 6:26 PM >> current wisdom is that positive cats can remain asymptomatic >> for >> years, until the virus is triggered. no one really knows, >> however, >> what it is that activates it. culprits high on the list are >> serious >> illnesses, but i know that at the sanctuary, we had >> positive who got >> very sick, were treated (often surgically) and recovered >> quite fine to >> go on for a number of years. stress is another thing >> suspected of >> awakening the virus, but how do you define that? the best >> we can do is >> the best we can do: give them as calm and safe and loving >> an >> environment as possible, feed them the best food that your >> own >> research tells you to (that varies because everyone has >> their own >> opinion, and last year before the pet-food recall, some >> people were >> accused of murdering their cats because they didn't >> feed them things >> that others thought they should--things that turned out, in >> some >> cases, to ACTUALLY kill, while the other foods did not); be >> extra >> vigilant about any health concerns or behavior changes, and >> have them >> attended to right away--and did i mention love them as long >> as you >> have them, because no matter how long that is, it won't >> ever be long >> enough. >> >> there are no guarantees for any of us--the healthiest cat >> or dog or >> human can drop dead tomorrow--to worry about it all the >> time >> accomplishes nothing, and probably creates a level of >> stress that the >> cats can pick up. >> >> there have been FeLVs in my life who have only had five >> months to >> share with me, and other whom i've known for >> years--it's the quality >> that matters. >> >> (and take lots of pictures--i get incredible joy from >> looking at the >> photos of the silly little furcritters that aren't >> wandering this >> earth anymore--and i just grin when i see their faces >> looking out at >> me, and remember how they graced my life.) >> >> MC >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Laurieskatz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> YES. Squeaky tested positive at age 13 and lived to >> age 22, symptom free >>> except for his final 3 weeks. >>> Laurie >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Sue Koren >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:33 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: Hi again :) >>> >>> Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive >> but not sick for a >>> certain length of time, if the chances are that they >> will not become sick? >>> Or could the sickness just come on them at any time >> regardless of how long >>> they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I >> hope that made some >>> kind of sense) >>> Sue >>> >>> MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> = >>> yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time >> has passed so >>> that the virus can work itself out of the system. just >> as with initial >>> exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 >> days, depending >>> on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, >> so i don't >>> always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the >> current on-line >>> merck manual, and i never thought to keep the >> reference back when i >>> first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a >> case where it took >>> a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to >> revert to >>> negative on an IFA. >>> >>> generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since >> last possible >>> exposure, i figure they're not gonna >> seroconvert--but until/if the >>> virus gets activated, they're just positive, not >> sick. >>> >>> my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last >> summer solstice, >>> just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, >> so i'd say that >>> it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay >> positive. but it didn't >>> really matter,
Re: Hi again :)
Dixie has been with me three years now and is perfectly healthy. She was a show-up (thrown away) at my Mom's for several months before that and was probably 2-3 years old when she showed up there (best guess but full grown and spayed). There are no guarantees in life. I knew that when I agreed to bring Dixie inside. I haven't regretted one second of it. She is marvelous, wonderfully intelligent, loving, and beautiful. On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Laura Mostello wrote: > I have had Duncan for a year now and he is fat, active and symptom- > free. Now Celery and Baby Girl have joined him. They are all healthy > and love each other's company. A vet tech said to me recently, > "Enjoy your FeLV + cats while you have them, because they'll > probably be dead within a couple of years." Nice. I've been upset > about her comment since then, but with luck she'll be proven wrong. > > --- On Wed, 6/4/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Hi again :) >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 6:26 PM >> current wisdom is that positive cats can remain asymptomatic >> for >> years, until the virus is triggered. no one really knows, >> however, >> what it is that activates it. culprits high on the list are >> serious >> illnesses, but i know that at the sanctuary, we had >> positive who got >> very sick, were treated (often surgically) and recovered >> quite fine to >> go on for a number of years. stress is another thing >> suspected of >> awakening the virus, but how do you define that? the best >> we can do is >> the best we can do: give them as calm and safe and loving >> an >> environment as possible, feed them the best food that your >> own >> research tells you to (that varies because everyone has >> their own >> opinion, and last year before the pet-food recall, some >> people were >> accused of murdering their cats because they didn't >> feed them things >> that others thought they should--things that turned out, in >> some >> cases, to ACTUALLY kill, while the other foods did not); be >> extra >> vigilant about any health concerns or behavior changes, and >> have them >> attended to right away--and did i mention love them as long >> as you >> have them, because no matter how long that is, it won't >> ever be long >> enough. >> >> there are no guarantees for any of us--the healthiest cat >> or dog or >> human can drop dead tomorrow--to worry about it all the >> time >> accomplishes nothing, and probably creates a level of >> stress that the >> cats can pick up. >> >> there have been FeLVs in my life who have only had five >> months to >> share with me, and other whom i've known for >> years--it's the quality >> that matters. >> >> (and take lots of pictures--i get incredible joy from >> looking at the >> photos of the silly little furcritters that aren't >> wandering this >> earth anymore--and i just grin when i see their faces >> looking out at >> me, and remember how they graced my life.) >> >> MC >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Laurieskatz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> YES. Squeaky tested positive at age 13 and lived to >> age 22, symptom free >>> except for his final 3 weeks. >>> Laurie >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Sue Koren >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:33 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: Re: Hi again :) >>> >>> Does anyone know if a positive cat who stays positive >> but not sick for a >>> certain length of time, if the chances are that they >> will not become sick? >>> Or could the sickness just come on them at any time >> regardless of how long >>> they have harbored the virus and remained healthy? (I >> hope that made some >>> kind of sense) >>> Sue >>> >>> MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> = >>> yes, cats can retest negative on IFAs if enough time >> has passed so >>> that the virus can work itself out of the system. just >> as with initial >>> exposure, the time period given varies from 60 to 120 >> days, depending >>> on who/what you read--i go for the 120 days or longer, >> so i don't >>> always wonder.. tho it's not mentioned in the >> current on-line >>> merck manual, and i never thought to keep the >> reference back when i >>> first read it in 2003 or so, it used to refer to a >> case where it took >>> a cat seven or nine (my memory is going) for a cat to >> revert to >>> negative on an IFA. >>> >>> generally, however, if 120 days or so has passed since >> last possible >>> exposure, i figure they're not gonna >> seroconvert--but until/if the >>> virus gets activated, they're just positive, not >> sick. >>> >>> my little pastel calico, lorelei, who came to me last >> summer solstice, >>> just retested positive on the IFA when she was spayed, >> so i'd say that >>> it's pretty definite that she's gonna stay >> positive. but
