Re: FIV/FeLV info

2008-06-12 Thread Lynne
Laurie, thank you for giving this overview of these two viruses.

I wish so much I had educated myself prior to owning a Felv positive cat.
Of course it helps to know ahead of time what you're dealing with.  I swear
we'd still have BooBoo with us if I had only known.  I honestly believe now
that we contributed to his demise by having him groomed, bathed (he was
loaded with fleas, mites and horribly matted fur when we got him) and then
the neutering a week later.  I think we caused him so much distress that his
immune system totally failed him.  I also have this horrible guilt that if I
hadn't been so insistent on owning him, he may have survived in his own
enviromnent longer.  When he was diagnosed with FIV on top of everything, he
went downhill immediately.  He had already lived 5 years and died within a
month of us getting him and learning of his diagnosis.  We did everything
the vet told us to do and more and in the end I'm now thinking we should
have left things well enough alone.  It was a hard lesson to learn and I'm
paying dearly for it.  There isn't a day goes by that I don't miss him
terribly.  Getting Snowy the rescued cat has helped tremendously but still,
BooBoo can never be replaced.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: FIV/FeLV info


 FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus)

 Both FIV and FeLV are called retroviruses because of the way that they
 replicate, or multiply, inside the cat's body.  FIV is further classified
as
 a lentivirus, or slow virus.

 An FIV-positive cat may live for many years.  However, the virus
eventually
 weakens the immune system, which limits the cat's ability to protect
itself
 against other infections or illnesses.  Periods of relatively good health
 may be interspersed with recurrent illnesses.

 FIV is spread primarily through bite wounds.  The virus is transmitted via
 the saliva of an FIV-positive cat when it bites deep into the tissue of
 another cat.  It is therefore commonly found in tomcats as they fight for
 territory and mates.  Casual, non-aggressive contact does NOT spread the
 virus.  The virus cannot survive for more than a few hours when exposed to
 air.  Therefore, an FIV-positive cat CAN live in a house with non-infected
 cats if they are all on friendly terms and don't fight with each other.
 Sharing food and water bowls, litter pans, and even grooming each other
will
 NOT spread the virus.

 If acquired during adulthood, a cat with FIV can live a long, full life,
and
 many do.  However, the weakened immune system can lead to recurrent or
 chronic conditions such as inflammation of the gums and mouth, skin,
 urinary, or upper respiratory infections, weight loss, anemia, persistent
 diarrhea, and cancer.

 For additional information, please see:
 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?ds=1cat=1316articleid=213,
 http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/fiv.html,
 http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/petcare/cats_fiv.cfm, or contact us!

 --
--
 

 FeLV (Feline Leukemia Virus)


 FeLV is also a retrovirus, but it differs in many ways from FIV, including
 its shape and genetic makeup.   And although many of the diseases caused
by
 the two viruses are similar, the specific way those diseases are caused is
 different.

 About 65% of cats with FeLV will live a full life.  Unfortunately, the
 remaining 35% will probably die within three years.  Just like FIV, FeLV
may
 cause a weakened immune system that limits the cat's ability to fight off
 other infections.  Periods of relatively good health may be interspersed
 with recurrent illnesses.

 An FeLV-positive cat sheds high quantities of the virus in its saliva
and
 nasal secretions.  Therefore, the virus can be spread from cat to cat
 through mutual grooming and, more rarely, by sharing food bowls and litter
 boxes, as well as through bite wounds.  An infected mother can also
transmit
 the virus to her kittens before birth or while nursing.

 FeLV is the most common cause of cancer in cats, and it may cause various
 blood disorders.  As with FIV, FeLV can weaken the immune system so that
the
 same bacteria and viruses that usually do not affect a healthy animal can
 cause serious illness in a cat with FeLV.  Common secondary infections
 include inflammation of the gums and mouth, skin, urinary, or upper
 respiratory infections, and persistent diarrhea.

 For additional information, please see:
 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?ds=1cat=1316articleid=211,
 http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html, or contact us!




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Re: FIV/FeLV info

2008-06-12 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Lynne,
I cannot believe that BooBoo is gone because of you.  On the contrary I have 
to believe that he was sent to you and you were able to own him because some 
higher power wanted that beautiful kitty to know what it is like to be loved 
and cherished in this world before he had to leave it.  I know how hard it 
is to miss a cat you are deeply fond of.  Tucker has been gone just over two 
weeks and I can still hardly stand it.  I have been second guessing the 
choices I made ever since.  But there is no way in the world anyone could 
ever say that you didn't do everything you possibly could for BooBoo. Both 
medical and emotionally.
Please go easier on yourself and believe that that little kitty angel will 
be very happy to see you at the bridge.
Sue
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: FIV/FeLV info


 Laurie, thank you for giving this overview of these two viruses.

 I wish so much I had educated myself prior to owning a Felv positive cat.
 Of course it helps to know ahead of time what you're dealing with.  I 
 swear
 we'd still have BooBoo with us if I had only known.  I honestly believe 
 now
 that we contributed to his demise by having him groomed, bathed (he was
 loaded with fleas, mites and horribly matted fur when we got him) and then
 the neutering a week later.  I think we caused him so much distress that 
 his
 immune system totally failed him.  I also have this horrible guilt that if 
 I
 hadn't been so insistent on owning him, he may have survived in his own
 enviromnent longer.  When he was diagnosed with FIV on top of everything, 
 he
 went downhill immediately.  He had already lived 5 years and died within a
 month of us getting him and learning of his diagnosis.  We did everything
 the vet told us to do and more and in the end I'm now thinking we should
 have left things well enough alone.  It was a hard lesson to learn and I'm
 paying dearly for it.  There isn't a day goes by that I don't miss him
 terribly.  Getting Snowy the rescued cat has helped tremendously but 
 still,
 BooBoo can never be replaced.

 Lynne
 - Original Message -
 From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:59 PM
 Subject: FIV/FeLV info


 FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus)

 Both FIV and FeLV are called retroviruses because of the way that they
 replicate, or multiply, inside the cat's body.  FIV is further classified
 as
 a lentivirus, or slow virus.

 An FIV-positive cat may live for many years.  However, the virus
 eventually
 weakens the immune system, which limits the cat's ability to protect
 itself
 against other infections or illnesses.  Periods of relatively good health
 may be interspersed with recurrent illnesses.

 FIV is spread primarily through bite wounds.  The virus is transmitted 
 via
 the saliva of an FIV-positive cat when it bites deep into the tissue of
 another cat.  It is therefore commonly found in tomcats as they fight for
 territory and mates.  Casual, non-aggressive contact does NOT spread the
 virus.  The virus cannot survive for more than a few hours when exposed 
 to
 air.  Therefore, an FIV-positive cat CAN live in a house with 
 non-infected
 cats if they are all on friendly terms and don't fight with each other.
 Sharing food and water bowls, litter pans, and even grooming each other
 will
 NOT spread the virus.

 If acquired during adulthood, a cat with FIV can live a long, full life,
 and
 many do.  However, the weakened immune system can lead to recurrent or
 chronic conditions such as inflammation of the gums and mouth, skin,
 urinary, or upper respiratory infections, weight loss, anemia, persistent
 diarrhea, and cancer.

 For additional information, please see:
 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?ds=1cat=1316articleid=213,
 http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/fiv.html,
 http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/petcare/cats_fiv.cfm, or contact 
 us!

 --
 --
 

 FeLV (Feline Leukemia Virus)


 FeLV is also a retrovirus, but it differs in many ways from FIV, 
 including
 its shape and genetic makeup.   And although many of the diseases caused
 by
 the two viruses are similar, the specific way those diseases are caused 
 is
 different.

 About 65% of cats with FeLV will live a full life.  Unfortunately, the
 remaining 35% will probably die within three years.  Just like FIV, FeLV
 may
 cause a weakened immune system that limits the cat's ability to fight off
 other infections.  Periods of relatively good health may be interspersed
 with recurrent illnesses.

 An FeLV-positive cat sheds high quantities of the virus in its saliva
 and
 nasal secretions.  Therefore, the virus can be spread from cat to cat
 through mutual grooming and, more rarely, by sharing food bowls and 
 litter
 boxes, as well as through bite wounds.  An 

Re: FIV/FeLV info

2008-06-12 Thread Lynne
I'm sorry for the horrible sadness you're going through Sue and everyone
else who has lost a little one lately and not so lately.  At two weeks post
Boo I was still so sick at heart I could hardly function.  The difficult
thing is I have to drive by his former home every day on the way to and from
work and there is his son sitting in the window most days.  When I come home
from work I expect to see Boo come out from under our trailer.  That's where
he always stayed last year til we came outside. Then we would feed him and
try to put antibiotics on his ears which were always bloodied.  I love Snowy
for herself though she does have those funny little BooBoo ears and squished
in nose like him.  She has been a god send for my husband and I.
Fortunately despite her horrible pre foster existence she tested negative
for Felv but had the Feline Herpes Virus.  We've had no problems with her
but her one eye is somewhat scarred.  If stress triggers this virus, I'm not
worried because this girl is the most spoiled cat known to man.  She gets
anything she wants whenever she wants.

I guess the bottom line is, we do what we feel is in our cat's best interest
and pray those who know more than we do, give us the right advice.  I still
have to get Snowy spayed but the foster mom and vet said I could wait.  It's
been almost 4 months since we got her and I'm still worried about doing it.
She's an indoor cat but is allowed outside under supervision only for fresh
air and back yard nature.  I'm not worried about other cats coming into the
yard, but still I have to get her spayed.  It was part of the contract.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: FIV/FeLV info


 Lynne,
 I cannot believe that BooBoo is gone because of you.  On the contrary I
have
 to believe that he was sent to you and you were able to own him because
some
 higher power wanted that beautiful kitty to know what it is like to be
loved
 and cherished in this world before he had to leave it.  I know how hard it
 is to miss a cat you are deeply fond of.  Tucker has been gone just over
two
 weeks and I can still hardly stand it.  I have been second guessing the
 choices I made ever since.  But there is no way in the world anyone could
 ever say that you didn't do everything you possibly could for BooBoo. Both
 medical and emotionally.
 Please go easier on yourself and believe that that little kitty angel will
 be very happy to see you at the bridge.
 Sue
 - Original Message -
 From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: FIV/FeLV info


  Laurie, thank you for giving this overview of these two viruses.
 
  I wish so much I had educated myself prior to owning a Felv positive
cat.
  Of course it helps to know ahead of time what you're dealing with.  I
  swear
  we'd still have BooBoo with us if I had only known.  I honestly believe
  now
  that we contributed to his demise by having him groomed, bathed (he was
  loaded with fleas, mites and horribly matted fur when we got him) and
then
  the neutering a week later.  I think we caused him so much distress that
  his
  immune system totally failed him.  I also have this horrible guilt that
if
  I
  hadn't been so insistent on owning him, he may have survived in his own
  enviromnent longer.  When he was diagnosed with FIV on top of
everything,
  he
  went downhill immediately.  He had already lived 5 years and died within
a
  month of us getting him and learning of his diagnosis.  We did
everything
  the vet told us to do and more and in the end I'm now thinking we should
  have left things well enough alone.  It was a hard lesson to learn and
I'm
  paying dearly for it.  There isn't a day goes by that I don't miss him
  terribly.  Getting Snowy the rescued cat has helped tremendously but
  still,
  BooBoo can never be replaced.
 
  Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:59 PM
  Subject: FIV/FeLV info
 
 
  FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus)
 
  Both FIV and FeLV are called retroviruses because of the way that
they
  replicate, or multiply, inside the cat's body.  FIV is further
classified
  as
  a lentivirus, or slow virus.
 
  An FIV-positive cat may live for many years.  However, the virus
  eventually
  weakens the immune system, which limits the cat's ability to protect
  itself
  against other infections or illnesses.  Periods of relatively good
health
  may be interspersed with recurrent illnesses.
 
  FIV is spread primarily through bite wounds.  The virus is transmitted
  via
  the saliva of an FIV-positive cat when it bites deep into the tissue of
  another cat.  It is therefore commonly found in tomcats as they fight
for
  territory and mates.  Casual, non-aggressive contact does NOT spread
the
  virus.  

Re: Greetings again

2008-06-12 Thread Nina
Jane Lyons wrote:
 Hi Nina
 I'm writing from the site, but I am not sure it will go to the list.

 If this reaches the list, Sam  I've had good results with L-lysine
 (500mg's daily which I split between 2 feedings) and
 a liquid supplement called DMG. I have also found that good
 quality food helps.
 As everyone on this list will tell you, a lot of love and affection
 and a low stress existence is key.
 It is great that Gus is without symptoms. Hopefully you can boost
 his immunity and he will be able to throw the virus. Here's hoping.

 To the list:
 Since the server problems I have not been able to send or receive
 messages. James cannot figure it out. If anyone knows how
 to get back on, please let me know.
 Thanks
 Jane
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Re: FIV/FeLV info

2008-06-12 Thread catatonya
I doubt that anything you did contributed to his death.  I think even if it did 
he was better off being with someone who took care of him and loved him rather 
than being left outside with fleas, earmites, etc... That wasn't a good life 
for him, and I'm sure he was miserable and stressed in that condition too.  
Don't second guess yourself.  You did what you thought was the best thing.  I 
would have done the same.
  tonya

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Laurie, thank you for giving this overview of these two viruses.

I wish so much I had educated myself prior to owning a Felv positive cat.
Of course it helps to know ahead of time what you're dealing with. I swear
we'd still have BooBoo with us if I had only known. I honestly believe now
that we contributed to his demise by having him groomed, bathed (he was
loaded with fleas, mites and horribly matted fur when we got him) and then
the neutering a week later. I think we caused him so much distress that his
immune system totally failed him. I also have this horrible guilt that if I
hadn't been so insistent on owning him, he may have survived in his own
enviromnent longer. When he was diagnosed with FIV on top of everything, he
went downhill immediately. He had already lived 5 years and died within a
month of us getting him and learning of his diagnosis. We did everything
the vet told us to do and more and in the end I'm now thinking we should
have left things well enough alone. It was a hard lesson to learn and I'm
paying dearly for it. There isn't a day goes by that I don't miss him
terribly. Getting Snowy the rescued cat has helped tremendously but still,
BooBoo can never be replaced.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Laurieskatz 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: FIV/FeLV info


 FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus)

 Both FIV and FeLV are called retroviruses because of the way that they
 replicate, or multiply, inside the cat's body. FIV is further classified
as
 a lentivirus, or slow virus.

 An FIV-positive cat may live for many years. However, the virus
eventually
 weakens the immune system, which limits the cat's ability to protect
itself
 against other infections or illnesses. Periods of relatively good health
 may be interspersed with recurrent illnesses.

 FIV is spread primarily through bite wounds. The virus is transmitted via
 the saliva of an FIV-positive cat when it bites deep into the tissue of
 another cat. It is therefore commonly found in tomcats as they fight for
 territory and mates. Casual, non-aggressive contact does NOT spread the
 virus. The virus cannot survive for more than a few hours when exposed to
 air. Therefore, an FIV-positive cat CAN live in a house with non-infected
 cats if they are all on friendly terms and don't fight with each other.
 Sharing food and water bowls, litter pans, and even grooming each other
will
 NOT spread the virus.

 If acquired during adulthood, a cat with FIV can live a long, full life,
and
 many do. However, the weakened immune system can lead to recurrent or
 chronic conditions such as inflammation of the gums and mouth, skin,
 urinary, or upper respiratory infections, weight loss, anemia, persistent
 diarrhea, and cancer.

 For additional information, please see:
 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?ds=1cat=1316articleid=213,
 http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/fiv.html,
 http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/petcare/cats_fiv.cfm, or contact us!

 --
--
 

 FeLV (Feline Leukemia Virus)


 FeLV is also a retrovirus, but it differs in many ways from FIV, including
 its shape and genetic makeup. And although many of the diseases caused
by
 the two viruses are similar, the specific way those diseases are caused is
 different.

 About 65% of cats with FeLV will live a full life. Unfortunately, the
 remaining 35% will probably die within three years. Just like FIV, FeLV
may
 cause a weakened immune system that limits the cat's ability to fight off
 other infections. Periods of relatively good health may be interspersed
 with recurrent illnesses.

 An FeLV-positive cat sheds high quantities of the virus in its saliva
and
 nasal secretions. Therefore, the virus can be spread from cat to cat
 through mutual grooming and, more rarely, by sharing food bowls and litter
 boxes, as well as through bite wounds. An infected mother can also
transmit
 the virus to her kittens before birth or while nursing.

 FeLV is the most common cause of cancer in cats, and it may cause various
 blood disorders. As with FIV, FeLV can weaken the immune system so that
the
 same bacteria and viruses that usually do not affect a healthy animal can
 cause serious illness in a cat with FeLV. Common secondary infections
 include inflammation of the gums and mouth, skin, urinary, or upper
 respiratory infections, and persistent diarrhea.

 For additional information, please see: