Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2013-08-12 Thread Marci Greer

 Hi everyone,
 
Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his 
breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving around, I 
would say that is 
expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, 
and blood work.   Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to 
get out? I
guess it would depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so 
slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide 
his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the 
refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
 
Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2013-08-12 Thread Margo



Hi Marci and Charles,

 Glad to here the good news, and hope the improvement continues :) Please keep us updated!

Margo

-Original Message- From: Marci Greer Sent: Aug 12, 2013 1:57 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7 


Hi everyone,Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? Iguess it would depend on howmuch fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!ThanksMarci, Allyn  Charles

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Re: [Felvtalk] Charles fluid

2013-08-12 Thread Lorrie
Hi Marci,

Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going 
to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the
lasix for the rest of his life.  Your vet will know and meanwhile
keep a close eye on him.  I am so glad he is better for now.

Lorrie


On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his
breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving
around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the
fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work.  Does anyone have
any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would
depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so slow and
grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his
pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the
refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
 
Thanks
Marci, Allyn  Charles


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Re: [Felvtalk] Charles fluid

2013-08-12 Thread dlgegg
I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something.  I am 
on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a 
Lymphoma and taking a tonic.  This stuff seems to cure just about everything.  
It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it.  Could be it could help 
Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then 
stroke her throat to make her swallow it.  If you would like, I could recommend 
you for membership.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 Hi Marci,
 
 Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going 
 to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the
 lasix for the rest of his life.  Your vet will know and meanwhile
 keep a close eye on him.  I am so glad he is better for now.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
 Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his
 breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving
 around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the
 fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work.  Does anyone have
 any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would
 depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so slow and
 grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his
 pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the
 refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
  
 Thanks
 Marci, Allyn  Charles
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

2013-08-12 Thread Lee Evans
Is Charles eating normally? If he is then it may not be FIP. Did she check his 
heart? Lasix can't hurt anyway. If it's not FIP it will take the pressure off.


 
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 From: Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6
 


 

 

Hi everyone,
We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his 
chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it 
could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of 
Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that 
the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it 
is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want
to loose one of our babies.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2013-08-12 Thread Lee Evans
If he has an appetite and is doing normal things, like annoying you at the 
refrigerator, it may very well not be FIP. Do you have money to do an 
ultrasound scan? In Texas it costs anwhere from $200 to $300 but if you have a 
caring and compassionate vet, he may only charge $175. I have had a lot of 
success with diagnosing serious mystery illnesses with ultrasound. It's 
non-invasive. It will show abnormalities that x-ray sometimes misses. If 
Charles is not a very nervous cat when handled by vets and technicians he may 
be a good candidate for ultrasound. None of my cats had to be sedated for the 
procedure, just had their bellies shaved.  The nice thing is that you can be 
with him since it's not radioactive or harmful to humans. I stayed with my cat 
Bo Jangles when he had his ultrasound. Unfortunately, he was in the last stages 
of FIP but they also saw many small tumors in his organs. But at least the 
ultrasound was not scary to him. If you go this route be
 sure you get a veterinary physician who specializes in ultrasound and can read 
the results.


 
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 From: Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
 


 

 Hi everyone,
 
Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his 
breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving around, I 
would say that is 
expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, 
and blood work.   Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to 
get out? I
guess it would depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so 
slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide 
his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the 
refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
 
Thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6

2013-08-12 Thread Lee Evans
There is really no definitive lab test for FIP and most cats can come up with a 
high titer for the corona virus without showing any symptoms while others have 
a lot titer and may actually have the mutated form of the virus. It's a very 
aggravating disease because it keeps playing hide and seek.


 
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 From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6
 

Hi Marcy,

I didn't get your original email, but did see Margo's response.
I seem to be having problems with only receiving some emails since recently 
joining this list.

I don't have much experience with FeLV related illnesses yet, but I just 
wanted to ask if they ruled out something like hypertrophic cardiomyopathy?  
Heart failure could cause fluid, and in that case, steroids should NOT be 
given.  But lasix can be given.
Since they already gave him a steroid shot, just keep a good eye on him.

My cat, years ago, was fine one day and then his chest became full of fluid.  
His only symptom was that he coughed a tiny bit 
as though he had a hairball, and he didn't want to eat his breakfast which was 
very out of character for him.  Lasix helped him.  
That was his only treatment.  They checked his heart at a later appt. and it 
was fine.  Initially they thought FIP, but it wasn't (we did a titer and it 
was neg.), and after that incident he was fine and lived many more years!  The 
vet didn't want to check the chest fluid at the time because
she had lost a cat doing that once, so she just used lasix.

My theory was that he had a heartworm, and the ivermectin that they gave him 
for ear mites  a week prior might have killed the
heartworm, and it broke up and caused the fluid...but will never know for 
sure.  This all happened shortly after I adopted him
as an adult cat.

Hope Charles begins to feel better. 

Shelley

On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Margo wrote:

 
 Hi Marcy,
  
             Sorry to hear Charles is having problems. In an FeLV positive 
boy, my first thought is lymphoma. While it isnt always FeLV related, the 
possiblity is there. I'd suggest joining the feline lymphoma list
  
 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/
  
              and getting familiar with what you may be up against. Since 
Charles has not been formally diagnosed, it could be anything, so this would 
just be a way to learn of the different ways to diagnose and treat certain 
tumors. Here's a pretty concise description of the different ways lymphoma 
can manifest;
  
 http://www.fabcats.org/owners/cancer/lymphoma.html
  
               I will hope that it turns out to be something simply remedied, 
and not a tumor, but better to be prepared with what kind of treatment you 
are interested in, if any.
  
 All the best
  
 Margo
  
  
  
 -Original Message- 
 From: Marci Greer 
 Sent: Aug 10, 2013 2:40 PM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 
 
 
  
 Hi everyone,
 We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his 
 chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it 
 could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of 
 Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well.  I am hoping that 
 the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if 
 it is a tumor.  If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want
 to loose one of our babies.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Charles fluid

2013-08-12 Thread Lee Evans
It's called Neoplasene for cancer. It does work some of the time but it did not 
work on Puss-Puss because her cancer was too advanced I think. She had a tumor 
that was coming from her hock bone. She didn't seem to mind the liquid though. 
My friend actually tasted a bit of it to see if it was horrendous but it 
wasn't. Her cat had an ear tumor but eventually died in spite of the 
Neoplasene. But it's probably good for squamous cell carcinoma on the surface 
of the skin.


 
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 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charles  fluid
 

I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something.  I am 
on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a 
Lymphoma and taking a tonic.  This stuff seems to cure just about everything.  
It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it.  Could be it could help 
Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then 
stroke her throat to make her swallow it.  If you would like, I could 
recommend you for membership.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 Hi Marci,
 
 Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going 
 to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the
 lasix for the rest of his life.  Your vet will know and meanwhile
 keep a close eye on him.  I am so glad he is better for now.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote:
      Hi everyone,
  
     Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his
     breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving
     around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the
     fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work.  Does anyone have
     any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would
     depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so slow and
     grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his
     pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the
     refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
  
     Thanks
     Marci, Allyn  Charles
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Charles fluid

2013-08-12 Thread dlgegg
has chapperal and neem in it, are you sure it is th same?  Also this does not 
go by that name.

 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 It's called Neoplasene for cancer. It does work some of the time but it did 
 not work on Puss-Puss because her cancer was too advanced I think. She had a 
 tumor that was coming from her hock bone. She didn't seem to mind the liquid 
 though. My friend actually tasted a bit of it to see if it was horrendous but 
 it wasn't. Her cat had an ear tumor but eventually died in spite of the 
 Neoplasene. But it's probably good for squamous cell carcinoma on the surface 
 of the skin.


 
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 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charles  fluid
 

I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something.  I am 
on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a 
Lymphoma and taking a tonic.  This stuff seems to cure just about everything.  
It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it.  Could be it could help 
Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then 
stroke her throat to make her swallow it.  If you would like, I could 
recommend you for membership.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 Hi Marci,
 
 Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going 
 to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the
 lasix for the rest of his life.  Your vet will know and meanwhile
 keep a close eye on him.  I am so glad he is better for now.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote:
      Hi everyone,
  
     Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his
     breathing is a lot better, he is still slow walking and moving
     around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the
     fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work.  Does anyone have
     any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would
     depend on how much fluid there is?  It is hard to see him so slow and
     grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his
     pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the
     refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much!
  
     Thanks
     Marci, Allyn  Charles
 
 
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