Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid
has chapperal and neem in it, are you sure it is th same? Also this does not go by that name. Lee Evans wrote: > It's called Neoplasene for cancer. It does work some of the time but it did > not work on Puss-Puss because her cancer was too advanced I think. She had a > tumor that was coming from her hock bone. She didn't seem to mind the liquid > though. My friend actually tasted a bit of it to see if it was horrendous but > it wasn't. Her cat had an ear tumor but eventually died in spite of the > Neoplasene. But it's probably good for squamous cell carcinoma on the surface > of the skin. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:04 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid > > >I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something. I am >on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a >Lymphoma and taking a tonic. This stuff seems to cure just about everything. >It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it. Could be it could help >Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then >stroke her throat to make her swallow it. If you would like, I could >recommend you for membership. > > Lorrie wrote: >> Hi Marci, >> >> Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going >> to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the >> lasix for the rest of his life. Your vet will know and meanwhile >> keep a close eye on him. I am so glad he is better for now. >> >> Lorrie >> >> >> On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his >> > breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving >> > around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the >> > fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have >> > any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would >> > depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and >> > grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his >> > pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the >> > refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! >> > >> > Thanks >> > Marci, Allyn & Charles >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid
It's called Neoplasene for cancer. It does work some of the time but it did not work on Puss-Puss because her cancer was too advanced I think. She had a tumor that was coming from her hock bone. She didn't seem to mind the liquid though. My friend actually tasted a bit of it to see if it was horrendous but it wasn't. Her cat had an ear tumor but eventually died in spite of the Neoplasene. But it's probably good for squamous cell carcinoma on the surface of the skin. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:04 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid > > >I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something. I am >on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a >Lymphoma and taking a tonic. This stuff seems to cure just about everything. >It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it. Could be it could help >Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then >stroke her throat to make her swallow it. If you would like, I could >recommend you for membership. > > Lorrie wrote: >> Hi Marci, >> >> Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going >> to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the >> lasix for the rest of his life. Your vet will know and meanwhile >> keep a close eye on him. I am so glad he is better for now. >> >> Lorrie >> >> >> On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his >> > breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving >> > around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the >> > fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have >> > any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would >> > depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and >> > grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his >> > pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the >> > refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! >> > >> > Thanks >> > Marci, Allyn & Charles >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6
There is really no definitive lab test for FIP and most cats can come up with a high titer for the corona virus without showing any symptoms while others have a lot titer and may actually have the mutated form of the virus. It's a very aggravating disease because it keeps playing hide and seek. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Shelley Theye >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 3:03 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 > > >Hi Marcy, > >I didn't get your original email, but did see Margo's response. >I seem to be having problems with only receiving some emails since recently >joining this list. > >I don't have much experience with FeLV related illnesses yet, but I just >wanted to ask if they ruled out something like hypertrophic cardiomyopathy? >Heart failure could cause fluid, and in that case, steroids should NOT be >given. But lasix can be given. >Since they already gave him a steroid shot, just keep a good eye on him. > >My cat, years ago, was fine one day and then his chest became full of fluid. >His only symptom was that he coughed a tiny bit >as though he had a hairball, and he didn't want to eat his breakfast which was >very out of character for him. Lasix helped him. >That was his only treatment. They checked his heart at a later appt. and it >was fine. Initially they thought FIP, but it wasn't (we did a titer and it >was neg.), and after that incident he was fine and lived many more years! The >vet didn't want to check the chest fluid at the time because >she had lost a cat doing that once, so she just used lasix. > >My theory was that he had a heartworm, and the ivermectin that they gave him >for ear mites a week prior might have killed the >heartworm, and it broke up and caused the fluid...but will never know for >sure. This all happened shortly after I adopted him >as an adult cat. > >Hope Charles begins to feel better. > >Shelley > >On Aug 10, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Margo wrote: > >> >> Hi Marcy, >> >> Sorry to hear Charles is having problems. In an FeLV positive >>boy, my first thought is lymphoma. While it isnt always FeLV related, the >>possiblity is there. I'd suggest joining the feline lymphoma list >> >> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_lymphoma/ >> >> and getting familiar with what you may be up against. Since >>Charles has not been formally diagnosed, it could be anything, so this would >>just be a way to learn of the different ways to diagnose and treat certain >>tumors. Here's a pretty concise description of the different ways lymphoma >>can manifest; >> >> http://www.fabcats.org/owners/cancer/lymphoma.html >> >> I will hope that it turns out to be something simply remedied, >>and not a tumor, but better to be prepared with what kind of treatment you >>are interested in, if any. >> >> All the best >> >> Margo >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Marci Greer >> Sent: Aug 10, 2013 2:40 PM >> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his >> chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it >> could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of >> Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that >> the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if >> it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want >> to loose one of our babies. >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
If he has an appetite and is doing normal things, like annoying you at the refrigerator, it may very well not be FIP. Do you have money to do an ultrasound scan? In Texas it costs anwhere from $200 to $300 but if you have a caring and compassionate vet, he may only charge $175. I have had a lot of success with diagnosing serious mystery illnesses with ultrasound. It's non-invasive. It will show abnormalities that x-ray sometimes misses. If Charles is not a very nervous cat when handled by vets and technicians he may be a good candidate for ultrasound. None of my cats had to be sedated for the procedure, just had their bellies shaved. The nice thing is that you can be with him since it's not radioactive or harmful to humans. I stayed with my cat Bo Jangles when he had his ultrasound. Unfortunately, he was in the last stages of FIP but they also saw many small tumors in his organs. But at least the ultrasound was not scary to him. If you go this route be sure you get a veterinary physician who specializes in ultrasound and can read the results. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Marci Greer >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 12:57 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > >Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his >breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving around, I >would say that is >expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, >and blood work. Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to >get out? I >guess it would depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so >slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide >his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the >refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! > >Thanks >Marci, Allyn & Charles > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6
Is Charles eating normally? If he is then it may not be FIP. Did she check his heart? Lasix can't hurt anyway. If it's not FIP it will take the pressure off. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: Marci Greer >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:40 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 6 > > > > > > > >Hi everyone, >We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his >chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it >could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of >Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that >the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it >is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't want >to loose one of our babies. >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid
I have been involved with Lil Bit lately, so may have missed something. I am on a cancer group and am using the black salve on my leg to get rid of a Lymphoma and taking a tonic. This stuff seems to cure just about everything. It is bitter, but many of the members swear by it. Could be it could help Charles. I use a 3ml syringe and shoot it into he side of her mouth and then stroke her throat to make her swallow it. If you would like, I could recommend you for membership. Lorrie wrote: > Hi Marci, > > Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going > to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the > lasix for the rest of his life. Your vet will know and meanwhile > keep a close eye on him. I am so glad he is better for now. > > Lorrie > > > On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > >Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his > >breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving > >around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the > >fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have > >any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would > >depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and > >grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his > >pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the > >refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! > > > >Thanks > >Marci, Allyn & Charles > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charles & fluid
Hi Marci, Depending on his condition, meaning if this fluid is going to keep filling his lungs, you may have to continue using the lasix for the rest of his life. Your vet will know and meanwhile keep a close eye on him. I am so glad he is better for now. Lorrie On 08-12, Marci Greer wrote: > Hi everyone, > >Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his >breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving >around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the >fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have >any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would >depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and >grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his >pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the >refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! > >Thanks >Marci, Allyn & Charles ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
Hi Marci and Charles, Glad to here the good news, and hope the improvement continues :) Please keep us updated! Margo -Original Message- From: Marci Greer Sent: Aug 12, 2013 1:57 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7 Hi everyone, Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? Iguess it would depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! ThanksMarci, Allyn & Charles ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7
Hi everyone, Thanks so much for all your thoughts! Charles is slowly improving, his breathing is a lot better, he is still "slow" walking and moving around, I would say that is expected. We will do more x-rays when the fluid is hopefully gone to see more, and blood work. Does anyone have any idea how long the fluid should take to get out? I guess it would depend on how much fluid there is? It is hard to see him so slow and grouchy! But on a positive note, when I was making his food to hide his pill in, he was rubbing on me, he was also trying to get in the refrigerator! Ha! Thanks again everyone so much! Thanks Marci, Allyn & Charles ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
