Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats
I have a cat - not FeLV - but never-the-less - who had all but the front teeth removed due to Stomatitis - after healing he does eat Royal Canin Mother/Baby cat kibble and wet food Sandy W > On April 24, 2018 at 2:27 PM Maribel Piloto wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I have a very sweet indoor-only gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 > yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV. Spencer has developed stomatitis > which makes it very hard for him to eat. He had always enjoyed his food but > in the last few months it's gotten to the point where he only gets in one or > two licks before he yelps and runs away in pain. He's lost weight as a > result. I know that for stomatitis, the long-term solution is usually a > full-mouth extraction of all teeth. In May I will be getting a bonus at > work and plan on taking him to a dentist I've used many times before to get > him evaluated for the procedure and probably have it done. In the meantime, > I've been giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help > with stomatitis. I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in these > tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix the powder > with that. So far, it hasn't been doing much. In the past, when I've had > otherwise hea lthy cats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the swelling. Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, suppresses the immune system. > > For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in FeLV... > > do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go? > > Do you think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo > to alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction in > May? > > Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they don't have all > the nutrition a cat needs. Any supplements you can recommend that I could > add to those - giving him something by mouth is impossible. > > Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. > > Maribel & Spencer > > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are > treated." > -Mohandas Ghandi > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis...
Thank you Bob. I'm definitely gonna get him the Depo this weekend. It's just terrible to see him wanting to eat more and not being able to. I feed colony cats and had one Leuk+ guy at one of my colonies who lived 8 yrs after first testing positive and he was always in good health until the last few months. Interestingly enough - he lived with other cats at the colony and none of the others I've tested from there ever got it. I'm hoping I can give Spencer at least some good years. Maribel "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis... Maribel... So sorry to hear the little spencer is FeLV... On the plus side... He's made it to 2 yrs old and in my ( not extensive but growing) experience... if they don't die in the first year they often can last several... and...yes... it appears that full mouth extraction is the "gold standard" for Stomatitis.. it has always bothered me that they still have not come up with something that can address this damnable infection without costing Kitties ALL their teeth Again, on the " bright" side... cats do remarkably well without teeth. I'm surprised that Spencer isn't eating more of the baby food as it takes very little mouth pressure to get it down... I've fed cats a diet of almost total Baby food ... both syringe and freely taken and think it is just great. If I were going to do it long term I'd look for a Taurine supplement as I doubt that Baby food has sufficient Taurine for optimal Kitty Health. ** I'd definitely go with the Depo injection... or , secondarily Prednisolone... both will help with inflammation ( and therefore pain) with the side benefit of increase in appetite. Your devotion to this Kitty is obvious in your post and I wish you and the little guy all the best I'd love to see you and he have more comfortable years together.. Bob > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:27:23 + (UTC) > From: Maribel Piloto > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis > and FeLV cats > Message-ID: <588427514.399000.1524594443...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi all, > I have a very sweet indoor-only?gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 > yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV.?? Spencer has developed > stomatitis which makes it very hard for him to eat.? He had always > enjoyed his food but in the last few months it's gotten to the point > where he only gets in one or two licks before he yelps and runs away > in pain.? He's lost weight as a result.? I know that for stomatitis, > the long-term solution is usually a full-mouth extraction of all > teeth.?? In May I will be getting a bonus at work and plan on taking > him to a dentist I've used many times before to get him evaluated for > the procedure and probably have it done.???In the meantime, I've been > giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help with > stomatitis.? I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in > these tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix > the powder with that.? So far, it hasn't been doing much.?? In the > past, when I've had otherwise healthy c > ats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every > other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the > swelling.? Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, > suppresses the immune system. > For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in > FeLV... > do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go??? Do you > think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo to > alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction > in May??? Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they > don't have all the nutrition a cat needs.? Any supplements you can > recommend that I could add to those - giving him something by mouth is > impossible. > Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. > Maribel & Spencer > "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are > treated." > -Mohandas Ghandi > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:39:58 + > From: Amani Oakley To: Maribel Piloto , > "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Maribel > > Probably removing the teeth is the way to go. I don?t think it would > hurt to have the Depo shot. Obviously, there is an infection and > anything which might help to clear up the infection or reduce
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis...
Maribel... So sorry to hear the little spencer is FeLV... On the plus side... He's made it to 2 yrs old and in my ( not extensive but growing) experience... if they don't die in the first year they often can last several... and...yes... it appears that full mouth extraction is the "gold standard" for Stomatitis.. it has always bothered me that they still have not come up with something that can address this damnable infection without costing Kitties ALL their teeth Again, on the " bright" side... cats do remarkably well without teeth. I'm surprised that Spencer isn't eating more of the baby food as it takes very little mouth pressure to get it down... I've fed cats a diet of almost total Baby food ... both syringe and freely taken and think it is just great. If I were going to do it long term I'd look for a Taurine supplement as I doubt that Baby food has sufficient Taurine for optimal Kitty Health. ** I'd definitely go with the Depo injection... or , secondarily Prednisolone... both will help with inflammation ( and therefore pain) with the side benefit of increase in appetite. Your devotion to this Kitty is obvious in your post and I wish you and the little guy all the best I'd love to see you and he have more comfortable years together.. Bob -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:27:23 + (UTC) From: Maribel Piloto To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats Message-ID: <588427514.399000.1524594443...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi all, I have a very sweet indoor-only?gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV.?? Spencer has developed stomatitis which makes it very hard for him to eat.? He had always enjoyed his food but in the last few months it's gotten to the point where he only gets in one or two licks before he yelps and runs away in pain.? He's lost weight as a result.? I know that for stomatitis, the long-term solution is usually a full-mouth extraction of all teeth.?? In May I will be getting a bonus at work and plan on taking him to a dentist I've used many times before to get him evaluated for the procedure and probably have it done.???In the meantime, I've been giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help with stomatitis.? I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in these tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix the powder with that.? So far, it hasn't been doing much.?? In the past, when I've had otherwise healthy c ats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the swelling.? Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, suppresses the immune system. For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in FeLV... do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go??? Do you think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo to alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction in May??? Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they don't have all the nutrition a cat needs.? Any supplements you can recommend that I could add to those - giving him something by mouth is impossible. Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. Maribel & Spencer "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:39:58 + From: Amani Oakley To: Maribel Piloto , "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Maribel Probably removing the teeth is the way to go. I don?t think it would hurt to have the Depo shot. Obviously, there is an infection and anything which might help to clear up the infection or reduce the swelling from the infection, would be beneficial. One other thing to suggest is use of Prednisolone 5 mg a day, which will also help reduce swelling and therefore pain. Regarding the baby food, on the contrary, it is an ideal food for cats. It has a lot of vitamins, fat, protein, etc. I have saved more than my fair share of cats by feeding them strictly baby food by syringe until they were healthy enough to eat on their own. If he takes the baby food on his own, great. If not, see how many syringe-fulls you can get in. Also consider using the ?juice? from a can of tuna, and/or puree the tuna with some water and syringe that up, if he will not eat it on his own. With cats, I have always found that the trick is to get enough food into them to allow their bodies to start to heal. If they won?t eat sufficient food on
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats
Hi Maribel!I am in a process of getting Lactoferrin for my foster FelV cat and came across a lot of studies that show how lactoferrin is helpfull with gum problems in FIV cats.I also read a lot of message boards and experiences on that subject.Just google Lactoferrin cat stomatitis! Re: Stomatitis and FeLV catsat Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On uto, tra 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Stomatitis and FeLV cats (Maribel Piloto) 2. Re: Stomatitis and FeLV cats (Amani Oakley) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:27:23 + (UTC) From: Maribel Piloto To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats Message-ID: <588427514.399000.1524594443...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi all, I have a very sweet indoor-only?gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV.?? Spencer has developed stomatitis which makes it very hard for him to eat.? He had always enjoyed his food but in the last few months it's gotten to the point where he only gets in one or two licks before he yelps and runs away in pain.? He's lost weight as a result.? I know that for stomatitis, the long-term solution is usually a full-mouth extraction of all teeth.?? In May I will be getting a bonus at work and plan on taking him to a dentist I've used many times before to get him evaluated for the procedure and probably have it done.???In the meantime, I've been giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help with stomatitis.? I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in these tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix the powder with that.? So far, it hasn't been doing much.?? In the past, when I've had otherwise healthy c ats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the swelling.? Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, suppresses the immune system. For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in FeLV... do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go??? Do you think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo to alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction in May??? Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they don't have all the nutrition a cat needs.? Any supplements you can recommend that I could add to those - giving him something by mouth is impossible. Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. Maribel & Spencer "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20180424/774c3f7f/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:39:58 + From: Amani Oakley To: Maribel Piloto , "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Maribel Probably removing the teeth is the way to go. I don?t think it would hurt to have the Depo shot. Obviously, there is an infection and anything which might help to clear up the infection or reduce the swelling from the infection, would be beneficial. One other thing to suggest is use of Prednisolone 5 mg a day, which will also help reduce swelling and therefore pain. Regarding the baby food, on the contrary, it is an ideal food for cats. It has a lot of vitamins, fat, protein, etc. I have saved more than my fair share of cats by feeding them strictly baby food by syringe until they were healthy enough to eat on their own. If he takes the baby food on his own, great. If not, see how many syringe-fulls you can get in. Also consider using the ?juice? from a can of tuna, and/or puree the tuna with some water and syringe that up, if he will not eat it on his own. With cats, I have always found that the trick is to get enough food into them to allow their bodies to start to heal. If they won?t eat sufficient food on their own, I will
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats
Hi Maribel Probably removing the teeth is the way to go. I don’t think it would hurt to have the Depo shot. Obviously, there is an infection and anything which might help to clear up the infection or reduce the swelling from the infection, would be beneficial. One other thing to suggest is use of Prednisolone 5 mg a day, which will also help reduce swelling and therefore pain. Regarding the baby food, on the contrary, it is an ideal food for cats. It has a lot of vitamins, fat, protein, etc. I have saved more than my fair share of cats by feeding them strictly baby food by syringe until they were healthy enough to eat on their own. If he takes the baby food on his own, great. If not, see how many syringe-fulls you can get in. Also consider using the “juice” from a can of tuna, and/or puree the tuna with some water and syringe that up, if he will not eat it on his own. With cats, I have always found that the trick is to get enough food into them to allow their bodies to start to heal. If they won’t eat sufficient food on their own, I will syringe-feed them with some intensity, since there is a saw-off point when they begin to feel better and their appetite increases, thus requiring less of the syringe-feeding. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maribel Piloto Sent: April-24-18 2:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats Hi all, I have a very sweet indoor-only gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV. Spencer has developed stomatitis which makes it very hard for him to eat. He had always enjoyed his food but in the last few months it's gotten to the point where he only gets in one or two licks before he yelps and runs away in pain. He's lost weight as a result. I know that for stomatitis, the long-term solution is usually a full-mouth extraction of all teeth. In May I will be getting a bonus at work and plan on taking him to a dentist I've used many times before to get him evaluated for the procedure and probably have it done. In the meantime, I've been giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help with stomatitis. I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in these tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix the powder with that. So far, it hasn't been doing much. In the past, when I've had otherwise healthy cats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the swelling. Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, suppresses the immune system. For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in FeLV... do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go? Do you think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo to alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction in May? Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they don't have all the nutrition a cat needs. Any supplements you can recommend that I could add to those - giving him something by mouth is impossible. Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. Maribel & Spencer "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis and FeLV cats
Hi all, I have a very sweet indoor-only gray tabby named Spencer who at only 2 yrs of age sadly tested positive for FeLV. Spencer has developed stomatitis which makes it very hard for him to eat. He had always enjoyed his food but in the last few months it's gotten to the point where he only gets in one or two licks before he yelps and runs away in pain. He's lost weight as a result. I know that for stomatitis, the long-term solution is usually a full-mouth extraction of all teeth. In May I will be getting a bonus at work and plan on taking him to a dentist I've used many times before to get him evaluated for the procedure and probably have it done. In the meantime, I've been giving him a powder called Plaque Off which is supposed to help with stomatitis. I can get Spencer to eat the baby food that comes in these tiny jars and is just chicken/turkey/ham and cornstarch so I mix the powder with that. So far, it hasn't been doing much. In the past, when I've had otherwise healthy cats with stomatitis, I've gotten them shots of Depo Medrol every other month or a couple of times a year and this has cleared the swelling. Depo is a steroid which reduces inflammation but also, suppresses the immune system. For those of you who may be familiar with stomatitis and Depo in FeLV... do you think the full-mouth extraction is the way to go? Do you think it would be ok to get Spencer at least one shot of the Depo to alleviate the stomatitis until I can get him the full-mouth extraction in May? Spencer likes those jars of baby food but I'm sure they don't have all the nutrition a cat needs. Any supplements you can recommend that I could add to those - giving him something by mouth is impossible. Would appreciate any thoughts/advice you can share. Maribel & Spencer "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
