Re: [Felvtalk] introduction for Spicey
The wonderful people here will give you great information...all I can tell you is to have patienceit must be extremely stressful for poor Spicey. Give him time and a safe place to hide until he is ready to deal with the world on his own terms. My heart breakes for him losing his mom...and I bless you for taking this baby into your home (and hopefully your heart)this disease is cruel and unforgiving. I wish you all luck possible. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: stargaze...@q.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:38:17 + Subject: [Felvtalk] introduction for Spicey A very good friend passed away her family didn't want the cat. Spicey has feline leukemia going on 2 years. I took the cat in have him in a spare room away from my cats. He has been on clavamox for about 1 yr per my friend. I am waiting on the vet to call to find out all the specifics. Is there any special food/vitamins/drugs to help? I know nothing of this disease. I have been during research says the cat should not be stressed. Unfortunately, Spicey has been stressed as his owner was in the hospital since last Tuesday. A neighbor was feeding him but he was hiding under the couch as he is very timid. And now he is in a strange place, so he has to be very stressed. It has been 3 hours he has not come out of his carrier, I do not know if he will be friendly with me but he has not hissed at all. I think I maybe taking on too much but in a small way I feel like I am keeping my friend alive too. Any ideas/suggestions/advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Joyce Spicey EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Demetri and Yule Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I can't begin to imagine losing two babies at once...I am so sorry! You were a blessing for them...and I know they were a blessing for you. Godspeed, little ones...you are now free of this hideous disease. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:44:54 -0800 From: sherryd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Demetri and Yule Please add to the CLS :( MY heart is very heavy tonight.We lost two of the most sweet loving boys. Demetri,he was on of my special boys from the day he arrived at Sids 3 1/2 years ago.He was so shy and would hide behind the couch.I would sit there and talk lightly to him until he would slowly walk around and over to me so I could pet him.I then brought in the heavy artillary Temnptations treats!! He has been putty in my hands ever since.He had the sweetest most beautiful face,as he gazed up at me with the most beautiful green eyes.I will FOREVER remember that face.Rip my wonderful baby Demetri :( Yule,oh handsome baby Yule,he would have been with us 3 years next month.We almost lost him several times but he seemed to want to stay with us. :) Now they both are in a safer disease free place.Rip Yule. :( We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] SPAM!
No worriesevery now and again a troll slips through! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:28:00 -0600 Subject: [Felvtalk] SPAM! Hey all, It takes a pretty sad individual to go through the process of signing up to this group just to SPAM us... :( That person has been removed now. So, please don't bother responding to it. Sorry that this has to happen, but it is taken care of. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Considering Adopting Felv have ?'s
Good for you, Allison! The wonderful people here have a HUGE amount of knowledge that will be invaluable to you. Good luckand bless you for giving this kitty a loving home! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: panchobri...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:28:43 -0800 Subject: [Felvtalk] Considering Adopting Felv have ?'s Hi, Im in touch with a rescue group and am considering adopting a cat diagnosed with Felv. Actually, I already told the gal I'd take the cat. . . so NOW I'm doing my homework! LOL Do I have to worry about people coming into my home, whether they handle the cat or not, going back home and risking giving it to their cat? I understand that the disease progresses differently for each cat. What is considered, on average, the lifespan of a cat with Felv. It won't affect my decision, I just want to be somewhat prepared. Thanks ahead of time! _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Raw Food
LOL, 'lemon fresh' isn't always a great thing, eh Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:55:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Raw Food A funny story- my husband suddenly decided that he would feed a raw diet to the cats and invested a lot of money in meat and supplements according to a good recipe he found. Not one cat out of about 12 would touch it. Turns out he had purchased (a big!) bottle of lemon-flavored fish oil to put in it I don't think they liked the lemony freshness! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS
Crystal, I know what a difficult decision it was...I am so sorry. Godspeed, little Nibbler. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:37:11 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Nibbler Has Gone On - Please Add To CLS Just wanted to let everyone know we had to let Nibbler go today. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. I'm not sure how I am going to get used to him not greeting me every morning and getting to say goodnight to him in front of the fireplace. Thanks everyone that has helped with my questions about him. Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
I wouldn't give those people anything but a view of my backside as I walked out. There are low cost spay/neuter clinics all around...but sometimes you have to really search them out. I found a local organization that just does the surgery...they will test if I request it, but I don't. PETA doesn't want feral cats, but they don't think we should have them as prisoners in our homesgo figure. I am so sorry about your little ones, SharylI understand your pain and guilt. BTW, they shouldn't have kept your money since I am sure they did the test prior to surgery! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:51:08 -0800 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated. PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess. Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they kept my money. Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed. I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them. Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
Janine, I would bet money in it! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:22:25 -0800 From: patonjan...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? Sharyl, I am so very sorry. Janine From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:51:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and solace to you. I'm grieving with you. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?
Tamara, I've never seen it in cats...but I HAVE seen it in peopleyou feel totally helpless to help, I'm sure. How about something like amytriptaline before bedtime? You can have it compounded into a transdemal application (where you just rub the prescribed amount into the inside of the ear so it's not as traumatic as pilling. I will be anxiously awaiting input here from others...poor little fellow Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:37:33 -0800 From: tlstick...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat? Hello all, This is off-topic, and for that I apologize, but I figured with all the cat care-giving/rescuing experience of the people on this list, perhaps someone would have an answer for me. I took in stray tabby about 3 years ago. Had him neutered and vetted. He had/has many issues including being prone to kidney crystals and infections -which I think we have under control at the moment w/ cranberry powder additive to his food. He used to be very aggressive towards other cats (something for which my other cat still hasn't completely forgiven him for) and he truly believes himself to be a dog. He has no fear at ALL of people, cats or canines, -fetches toys, heels, comes when called and will go into his crate if you just mention it...(something even my DOG REFUSES to do!). But..there is one major obstacle to completely incorporating him into the household: he has night terrors. Because of his past aggression, he's separated in his own room whenever I'm not home at night, but I have been trying to get to the point where he can be allowed to sleep with us. Unfortunately, he has incredible nightmares where he BOLTS INTO THE AIR (we're talking sometimes 2-3 feet HIGH) from a dead sleep and FLEES until he hits something - usually a wall or piece of furniture- hard enough to wake him up. Then he sits all hunched up and blinking for a few minutes. If I go to him he immediately starts to purr and rolls over for a belly rub - only after head-butting me a few dozen times. I've had him to the vet thinking he was having painful spasms or something. All she could find were old injuries that looked like a car accident may have hit him in the hip area (all healed - he moves fine) and what appear to be 3 bebes still lodged in the back of his neck and shoulder area. She doesn't think they would be the cause of pain now...but both injuries tell something of the first year or two of his life. I've tried feline pheromones ...he still has the episodes. As much as I hate putting him in a room by himself at night, while the cat and dog and I share a bedwhen he freaks out at night- it sets off a chain reaction of the other cat going all hissy-spazzy and the dog barking and chasing one or both around the condo until he fully wakes up and calms down (I'm surprised my neighbors haven't complained yet!). (Not to mentionI've gotten kicked in the eye and face time and again as one or more of the animals flee from the shock of Mica's night terrors. Has anyone EVER experienced something like this that's on-going? Does anyone have ANY suggestions other than time? (He's been an indoor only cat for 3 years nowand while the dreams do seem to be getting lessat the current rate- he'll have to live well into his thirties until they are gone...-I'm not certain I could survive that! ;-) Thanks, Tamara, Tobias (yorkie), Coebeio (calico), Micatullyvhim (grey tabby) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, it was. I was totally prepared to give this guy the benefit of the doubt at first..you know, local politics and alllbut it resembled a concentration camp far more than anything that could be called sanctuaryI'm still having nightmares. My little girl came home with a respiratory infection, injured eye and significant weight loss from when she left my care less than 6 weeks ago. There were many, many more who needed to be on meds...but every cat there had supposedly been vetted by the 5 rescue vets that descended on the place. Even the friendly cats were clearly traumatized stillmy heart just breaks. I don't know what in the world will become of Portia nowbut she is safe, warm and loved...I will work very hard to get her to where she lets me handle herI am already making progressand there is hope. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:46:25 -0500 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Was that 10th Life? Ok if you wish not to answer, of course. Thank you for going after your former foster! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yepand you can't imagine how difficult it was...do you know how much all black cats look alike?? But she was so small and floofy and scared that I knew her the moment I laid eyes on herthank goodness the vet accidentally microchipped her when she was spayed. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:51:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Debbie, did you find your cat? What a miracle if you did. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Bates Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/soc ial-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, but don't get me started on thathow can you research with NO medical staff? Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:55:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Crystal, please don't paint all sanctuaries with the same brush...I am sure there are good, loving places...it is my dream to have my own sanctuary one dayjust be sure to do your homework and I'm sure you would do just fine. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:22:03 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hmmm, maybe I will rethink the sanctuary idea. I don't want them to live a horrible life. Plus all the places I have contacted are full. I have an appointment to get the female fixed on the 22nd...a few days before that I have to start trying to catch her. I am getting a live trap. Shes friendly but you can't pick her up and put her in a cage. I am hoping they will keep her over the holiday to observe her and let her heal before I let her go back outside. I dont think its my place to make the choice to end her life...or the male cats life either. There are several people that care for them and feed them and its only those two cats that live there. I think I will just get them both fixed to prevent kittens and continue on with what we do. --- Frank Sue Koren Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:56:03 -0800 Is 10th life the sanctuary that was supposedly researching snake venom about two years ago? Sue - Original Message - From: Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I couldn't agree more...having just found out that the 'sanctuary' one of my feral fosters was taken to has been closed down by law enforcement...I drove down there the day after Thanksgiving to find her and bring her backlet me just add that this place looked great onlinebut I saw with my own eyes that there ARE 'fates worse than death'.please be cautious Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:33:09 -0800 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
or a softened piece of cheese! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:40:55 -0500 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries I have found that several of my cats who won't eat the pill pockets, will eat a pill inside another soft-type treat like Whisker Lickins or hairball treats. The Whisker Lickins are more crumbly than PP and sometimes you need to use more than one but mine seem to like the flavor more than PP.. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Debbie Bates dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote: I have had amazing success with Pill Pockets Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 23:53:23 -0600 From: bugrahanyal...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Yes, but you can't imagine the guilt I feel for not being able to take more with me... Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:27:17 -0800 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Thankfully she is safe now. Bless you for saving her a second time. Sharyl _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Will Feral, thank you Diane
Beth, thank you for sharing Will's last day with usas we share the pain of loss with you. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
If they can be handled, they can be adopted...they are NOT feral. Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:27:36 -0800 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Setting the live trap tonight to take them in to get fixed this coming week. Just found out the owner is moving his business from that building so there won't be anyone there to feed them daily. My husband and I go down there every couple days to feed them as well but we are probably moving 4 hours away. I am worried there won't be anyone to care for them anymore. They arent completely feral...they always let us pet them and one sits on our laps and runs to us as soon as he sees us. - Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Agreed. Also, be very careful about so-called sanctuaries. You really need to visit them personally to be sure they are decent places. So many seem to crash and burn amid allegations of abuse and neglect. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:28 PM We have trapped two large groups. In each group one was FeLV+. None of the others were. The asymptomatic FeLV was returned to the colony. The other guy was very sick so he was euthanized. Someone on this list had a negative living with a group of positives for about 6 years. He never tested positive. Lie to the vet. Tell the vet you will keep the cats inside and separate. Not the vet's decision. Yours. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Have all the other outside cats been tested? How long have they been living with that group of cats? We have an feLV+ cat who has lived outside at our house for at least 4 years now. She and a small feral colony came with the house. Last year I tested her best buddy because I thought I might have a home for him and he was negative. So it really isn't that transmissible within a healthy adult population. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Crystal Proper crystal_pro...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 12:52 PM Hi everyone. Anyone know of any cat sanctuaries in PA or OH for FeLV+ cats. The mother and father cats of my kittens are semi-feral and not fixed. I went to the vet today to make appointments to get them fixed and they want me to euthanize them instead to protect other cats. However, I don't think I can do that because they aren't but I don't want any other outside cats to get sick. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks - Crystal ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook.
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
LOL...yep, tried that, too.my scars-let me show you them Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:45:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Just in case you haven't tried it, gently wrapping a cat in a nice, thick blanket helps. It may or may not calm the cat but it offers protection for the person. On Dec 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Debbie Bates wrote: OMG, the exact words I said to my Baby Ruben..glad I'm not the only one who has had a hellion! But, my oh my, how he owned my heart!! Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:37:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Welcome to the world of cats-pilling, putting into a carrier for vet trip, getting a cat to eat when they're not in the mood-those are the times you realize that they're a lot smarter more determined then we humans are! Pilling a cat is an art that most cats seem to be determined for us not to learn-LOL. You can try a compounding pharmacy that will mix up the meds into what they say is a pleasant tasting treat-never worked for me. Pill pockets are great -if your cat likes them. Sneaking a pill in between a couple of soft treats works for a while but they catch on and then will just look at you as you make weird kitty sounds thinking that will help. S, do not feel you are alone. I suspect each of us has had at least one cat for whom pilling was a nightmare. I THINK doxy is that foul tasting drug-but not sure. Try sneaking small pieces of a pill in any kind of delectable people food the kitty likes-ham, turkey, tuna, cheese, anything at all but you have to keep changing it cause the cat will catch on after a couple of times. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bugrahan Yalvac Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries Doxycycline 100 MG and Prednisone 5 MG are the pills. He is infected by mycoplasma haemofelis. It looks all so easy to give cats oral medication on the net but those cats are all healty, relaxed, and happy cats who swallow the pills. Mine is doing everything not to swallow anything. Should I take him to the vet again? Am I the only one who cannot manage to medicate a cat orally? On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: What are the pills? Gary Bugrahan Yalvac wrote: Hi, All, I have a FeLV positive cat who adapted me six months ago. A week ago he stopped eating and began to taste his litter. I took him to the vet and he was tested FeLV positive. Vet gave me steroids and antibiotics and I was mixing the pills with his science diet for couple days. He was able to eat small entities of science diet for few days. However for the last two days he is not eating anything. I tried two times to med him through his mount, it didn't work at all. Anyone knows a better way to give medications (pills) to a cat? Thanks, Bugra ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
Just wondering...when my sister's cat was having a flair up, they put him on steroids...is this not done any longer? Debbie (COL) Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:54:26 -0500 From: lernermiche...@aol.com Subject: [Felvtalk] stomatitis Hi. I'm fostering an FIV+ cat right now who has pretty bad stomatitis. We had his teeth cleaned and 6 of them removed, and after a few weeks of antibiotics post-dental surgery he was doing much much better-- eating a lot more, gained 3 pounds in 3 weeks, not seeming to have any mouth pain and the redness was all gone. We stopped the antibiotics (which had been clindamycin then switched to clavamox) and he remained ok for a few days. He then went to a potential adoptive home with another FIV+ cat. A week later she called for us to get him back, largely because his mouth got really bad again. He is back on Clavamox, and has been for a few days, but is growling when he eats and can only eat wet food that we break up into very small pieces. His gums are very inflamed again. I had 6 FeLV+ cats, but was lucky that none had stomatitis like this. For those of you whose cats have it or had it, what do you recommend? thanks, Michelle ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_3:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
Unfortunately, this does not come as any surprise to me Debbie “Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it” (Garrison Keillor) From: ssjew...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:24:09 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals -- PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008 -- This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet. Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339 WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters. According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers. Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse. CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal rights' message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters building? Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat, using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to the circus? CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at PetaKillsAnimals.com. P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be a factual story. PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run and well funded animal shelters. My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal Shelter ..Do not support PETA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away
James, I am so sorry! What an awful thing for you to have had to witness. Godspeed, Lyttle Guy...I will light a candle to help you find your way. Debbie “Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it” (Garrison Keillor) From: phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:37:03 -0600 Subject: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly missed James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Frosty Paws has passed
Frosty was meant to be with you, Laura...and you were there for himnever doubt it. Godspeed, little oneyou are now healthy and whole. Debbie “Sometimes you have to look reality in the eye and deny it” (Garrison Keillor) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:42:15 -0800 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Frosty Paws has passed I had Frosty Paws PTS this afternoon. I sat with him all day and several times thought he was nearly dead, but he stayed alive long enough to make it to the vet. My vet agreed that euthanasia was the best option. I had thought I felt a lump, and my vet said it was lymphosarcomaso I'm at peace with our decision. I'm just so angry at the person who gave him to me - apparently he had several episodes of sickness during the time she had him, yet I was never informed of this. He was presented to us as an asymptomatic cat who had just happened to test positive for the virus. If I had known this, I don't think I'd have taken on the heartbreak of another sick cat, especially so soon after Chutney's death. I'd only had Frosty for a little over a month, and he appeared to be healthy until a couple of days ago. My vet said he didn't blame me for being ticked off - what if he had had some other disease that could have been passed to my cats? I have 3 with FeLV and 2 with FIV, all healthy...she knew her cat would have been living with mine and yet she failed to fill me in completely on his condition. She'd wanted to be with him when he passed, and I was so angry, I called her this morning and told her Frosty hadn't made it through the night. Then I hung up on her. On a happier note - Bridget had her 4th LTCI injection today, and guess what? She has been steadily gaining weight and visibly growing since beginning treatment. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Laura, what a tragic turn of events!!! I am so sorry for all you have had to endure recentlyour hearts break with yours. Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:45:50 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
Jeff, what a wonderful storyand you a an angel for giving this little guy a chance to live an to know what love feels like. Bravo!! _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
And, in this sweet kitty, Bridget's memory lives on.what a wonderful way to honor your love for her. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond
Oh my goodnesshow horrible...our hearts break with yoursGodspeed, baby boys... Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:01:20 -0700 From: crystal_pro...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Brillo and Desmond Both of my beautiful baby boys, Brillo and Desmond joined their brother Nibbler in heaven today. My heart is broken. They will be missed more then words can describe. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Heavens Cried for Max Today
Sharyl, bless you for giving these babies a chance to know love...and Godspeed, little Max. Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a bitthere are many extremely well informed members who will have any and all information you need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come here often so that I stay informed Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia This e-mail got bounced back to meam trying one more time. - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: New to Feline Leukemia It's a long story, but I'll shorten it... My mom has a heart cat named Lucky. She's disabled and no longer living at home. Her sister was caring for Lucky, but herself is unwell and struggling. I went over to feed the cats during her hospitalization and Lucky did not look good. I took him to the vet: bad fleas, possible infected eye and nose, and tested weak positive for feline leukemia. This makes my plan of integrating him into my 3-cat household a real challenge. The vet said I could get my three cats vaccinated providing 80% protection... Meanwhile, Lucky is sequestered in the spare bedroom, taking antibiotics (what a good cat!) and healing. I'm trying to figure out how to make this work, longer term. Ideas??? Thank you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.
We are all so sorry for your loss!!! Debbie We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them. - Kahlil Gibran Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:54:05 -0700 From: aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone. Murphy has passed to the bridge tonight to join Buster, Oni, Jack and Schatzi-Rosie's 4 brothers that passed last year. He was 2 1/2. Glenn and I saw in his eyes tonight that he was tired. He gave it all he had but in the end FeLV took him too.We will miss him so much-he filled the house with his incredible personality. He always ran to the door to greet everyone-he never knew a stranger. I will miss his big, poly-dactyl feet going clickity-click around the house and how he could leap up the wall and turn the light switch off and on when he chased the laser toy. Rosie will miss giving him vampire kisses-she's a tough love kinda girl and she is the last Mohican of the 6 FeLV+ kitties we began this journey with. Thanks to all of you for your kindness and caring. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:56:11 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
Yes, my Portia came back to me (I had fostered her when she was trapped pregnant)...she was part of a group of 20 cats dumped behind a local library when her human was evicted/foreclosed on...she was in pathetic shape and we were unsure any of her kittens would survive. Long story short, I was with her when she delivered three precious little bundleswho eventually went up for adoption. Portia was deemed unadoptable because she was terrified of humans and would lash out at anyone who violated her personal spaceso she was sent by the rescue group to a sanctuary in South FL.that I was assured was wonderfulimagine my horror a month later when said sanctuary was raided and shut down by law enforcementunsanitary, no medical care, experimentationsugh. I immediately contacted the group that sent her there and told them I was going to the place the next day and they had BETTER have contacted them to arrange for me to take her back. During her month in that sanctuary she had lost another pound (she was underweight to begin with), had a broken canine and respiratory infection, and was even more traumatized than when I had first taken her in. She has been with me now just a little under a year since that dayand actually allows me to pet her now. She was NOT unadoptable...she just needed to find a home that had a bit of patience...I now consider her one of MY cats...but worry about her if something happens to me. I am only 56...but you never know how long your time on earth will be. I am busy trying to set my affairs in order that I will be able to provide for my 10 babies if I should die before them.I wish there were a sanctuary similar to Rustic Hollow here in Floridaor that I could win the lottery and start my OWN sanctuary! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:56:21 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death The trust issue is a big thing with 2 of mine. Annie went through a lot when yher owner died. i think the worst of it was not knowing what happened to her owner. she had been an only cat for 4 years, sleeping on the lady's bed, super spoiled. then she was locked up for 3 weeks with someon coming to feed and change her box. then put in a box and brought to the vet's office and then came to my house where she encontered another cat and 2 new people. she spent the first 2 weeks in the basement, sneaking pu at night to eat and drink. Nitnoy showed up with a bloody 4 stump of a tail. took her to the vet for repairs and shots and spaying and then brought her home to 7 other cats. I later found her tail in the yard and discovered it was a raccoon who did it when one showed up on the deck and looked in the window. she went balistic and nearly killed me trying to get away from him. she is still sensitive about her tail and after almost a year allows me to hold her. That is why I think a place like Rustic Hollow would be good for my girls and boy, they have a home environment to live in. I am also going to send a letter for each one telling about all their personalities, etc. I am doing the letters now just in case. I am 70 after all. I have also arranged with someone to drive them to Rustic Hollow. Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: On 12-21, Debbie Bates wrote: Lorrie, that is something I lay awake at night worrying about myself...not only my own cats, but the ferals I have TNR'd and care forin July I was hospitalized for almost three weeksthank goodness my husband was able to care for them (well, as much as he could)but I hesitate to do any more rescue work because I am not a spring chicken any more...and who will take them if and when I die? Some of my cats came from very bad places and have trust issuesmost are not very friendly to strangersand I don't make the kind of money where I can provide a lot even IF I could find someone I could trust...I'm not sure there is a perfect solutionwe just do the best we can. I know exactly how you feel All of my 14 cats, with the exception of 2, are afraid of strangers, which is the case with most rescued cats or rehabilitated semi-ferals. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death
Wow, Kellythat place seems wonderful...except for the fact that I could almost DOUBLE their feline count with just my houseful, lol! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:38:28 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Finding homes for cats upon death Hi Lorrie, If you have enough money to provide for them, may I suggest The Stevenson Center at Texas AM? http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/ http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/petcare/It is not cheap but is a safe place for pets to go and live in a home like environment, has vet students who live there, each pet has a personal wellness plan, if you are unable to care for them but still alive (nursing home or etc) you can visit. I have been there and it is a very nice place...right beside the small animal clinic. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: My parents left me enough money to comfortably provide for all my cats, BUT the question that concerns me is WHO will care for them? I have three grown kids and grown grandkids and all of them love cats, but they have a bunch of their own. I would like to find someone to move into our house and take care of them. I'd even give them the house, and it's a very nice house in a resort area on a lake in the eastern mountains of WV. So far in my will I've left 1,000 per cat to help them find good homes, but how do I know someone won't take the money and dump the cat? I worry about my fur babies constantly. They are my life. If anyone has any good ideas about what I can do please e-mail me personally. Lorrie On 12-20, MaiMaiPG wrote: Consider providing for them in your will. I had a lawyer draw up one leaving everything in trust for the care of my guys. On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Lorrie wrote: Wow, Natalie, that is impressive. You definitely have a lot more cats than we have. I'd take in more if my hubby and I weren't so ancient (77 and 88) but I'm afraid when we die we'll leave a bunch of orphans. It's a constant worry, and we have no rescue group to help.. We're it! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats
wowI thought I was the only one who did that (what a relief!) Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:56:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats So I'm not the only one who makes up little songs for the cats! Each cat has its own song (some have several) -- a kind of theme song. For some reason, I do this for every cat. I wonder why we do this? The songs are quite nice...or so the cat thinks! ha! ~B. - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Singing to Cats On 12-26, Katy Doyle wrote: This might sound silly, but I sing to my cats. Like when I'm taming and socializing feral kittens... It seems to work and I have fun :-) It's good to know I'm not the only one who makes up silly little songs to sing to my cats :-) Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary'
One of my cats came from a sanctuaryafter having been deemed unadoptable by the group who initially rescued her . I fostered this tiny, pregnant, emaciated kitten in my home and cared for her and (later) her babies, who eventually went up for adoption. In the 6 weeks after she left my home and was taken there (when the place was shut down by law enforcement) she had lost two pounds...though she was underweight to begin with, had lost a canine tooth and had an upper respiratory infection. I drove the three hours down to get her back, brought her home and nursed her back to healthand otherwise left her to adjust on her own. Now, barely 18 months later, she is healthy and robust...and even allows me to pet her. She will never be a lap cat, but I can live with that...just to see her thrive and be happy is good enough for me. And this story is just one of manyI am sure some sanctuarys are just that, but they are the exception, I fear! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:12:39 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' This is why I warn people to thoroughly check out Sanctuaries This happens time again. Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: atlantares...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:atlantares...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kitty.cat Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:30 PM To: spotsoci...@yahoogroups.com; atlanta Rescue Groups Cc: georgiaanimalres...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [atlantarescue] Fw: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' - Original Message - Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' A PETA undercover investigation exposed the chronic deprivation and suffering of approximately 300 cats being kept in filthy, stifling, dungeon-like, disease-ridden storage units at Sacred Vision Animal Sanctuary (SVAS) in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The operator of this so-called quot;sanctuaryquot; warehouses cats in cruel, disgusting conditions. Many of the animals have endured these conditions for years. One cat captured on video--Winky--was found convulsing and dying in a litterbox inside a cage. The operator refused repeated offers for free emergency veterinary care and instead left Winky in a filthy bathroom to languish for more than an hour before the cat finally died. Please click the link below to help end the suffering and death of cats at SVAS now! To take action on this issue, click on the link below: http://www2.peta.org/site/Advocacy?s_oo=PtJIyHJzakKAPa-52Eez-A..amp;id=3583 If the text above does not appear as a link or it wraps across multiple lines, then copy and paste it into the address area of your browser. If you no longer wish to receive email messages sent from your friends on behalf of this organization, please follow the link below: http://www2.peta.org/site/TellFriendOpt?action=optouttoe=c1008561306ab8401a47ff9682e23217733f619a56c5115e __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries
I have not personally visited Caboodle...however, the group I foster for said they would NEVER allow any of their animals to go there. The animals live out of doors (for the most part)and this guy really discourages visitors. So if a cat gets sick and hides ... how will he know? The healthy ones probably enjoy themselves, but he has no way to keep accurate health care records Now, you can take this with a grain of saltthis same group is the one who placed my unadoptable foster momma in the sanctuary that was shut down by Law EnforcementI DID get to see that one and it was nothing short of a concentration camp for cats...I still have nightmares. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:57:43 -0500 From: felineres...@kvinet.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sanctuaries On 02-24, Susan Hoffman wrote: This is the problem with most sanctuaries. It's a flawed business model. A sanctuary by definition offers lifetime care So they fill up fast and, as the population ages, become more and more expensive to maintain. And usually the people who try to start sanctuaries keep taking in new animals, sometimes because they need the surrender fee to keep the operation running and sometimes because they simply have a hard time saying no. This is just not a sustainable model. I've been looking at on-line sanctuaries because we are old now, (78 and 88) and I need a place for my cats to go when we depart this earth. Do any of you know about Caboodle Ranch in northern Florida?? It looks great on line, but could still be pretty bad as they certainly won't be taking pictures that make it look anything less than wonderful! They only charge $150. per cat, and say they have no limit as to the number they can take and this raises a red flag to me. If any of you people in the northern Florida area have any info about Caboodle please let me know. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
Thanks Sam!! You rock! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:36:23 -0700 From: sin...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Sorry but that information is outdated or biased. The number one killer of birds is humans due to habitat loss or construction for same. Humans: The Number One Threat to Birds http://www.alleycat.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=325 SomeWhere Sam From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 2:37:38 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors In the newspaper today: House cats are the #1 predator of wild birds. The American Bird Conservancy estimates up to 500 million birds per year are killed by cats. About 400,000 are killed yearly by wind turbines (less than 20% of the number killed by cats). So now we have another reason to keep our cats indoors -- not only for their own health and safety, but for that of our BIRD population! Save the cats and the birds: Keep Your Cat Indoors! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info?
I would please.. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:29:30 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info? I cannot send it to the group because it's larger than 20 KB, sorry! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws
LOLmy thoughts exactly. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ From: taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:15:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws You just can't fix STUPID. Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:17:59 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws Not only that, they allowed those cats to go out and one of them was attacked by a pack of dogs...huge vet bill! The cat recuperated pretty well, and then baby came -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of POTT, BEVERLY Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws Wow, what a bunch of D.A.s! Like my mama always said, Stupid people shouldn't breed. They should have found a GOOD home for the cats and euthanized themselves. -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AND THEIR THIN SKINS NOT WANTING TO BE SCRTACHED, BUT WHY WOULD A CAT SCRATCH ANYONE, UNLESS ONE HAS A FERAL CAT THAT'S TERRIFIED WHEN CORNEREDIT'S LIKE PEOPLE DECLAWING THEIR CATS WHEN A BABY COMES ALONG. If the cat hasn't scratched them, why would it scratch the baby - besides, it's better to be scratched than bitten anytime! Years ago, neighbors adopted a baby and had their two 4-yr old cats declawed, worrying about scratches, although the cats never scratched them. When baby arrived, one of the cats bit the baby in the hand - seriously (never, ever having attempted to bite the neighbors). The baby didn't even provoke the cat - it was just lying on the floor. Both cats were euthanized the next day. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof
Same for my feralsbut in colder weather, I mix it with wet kitten foodfor added calories! I still have one female that won't touch the wet stuff...so I always make sure there is plenty of fresh clean water at my feeding stations. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ From: maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:36:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof The ferals at my Mom's prefer Purina dry + whatever treats I come up with. I suspect that foods without a lot of artificial coloring would be best. My two boys like the Purina but they get is more as a treat than a regular food. No matter what you feed, please keep a close eye for recalls. On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Christiane Biagi wrote: They can be fussy, can't they! LOL My brood eats wellness canned but when I tried wellness dry as supplement, they turned up their noses. Have a friend who had a cat that lived to her early 20's--wouldn't eat anything xcept 9-Lives (which is not the worst food in the world). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof I have found that my cats, even Amber my felv cat does not care for the more expensive/healthy food. I fed her that at first and after she got past her starvation mode,(a time when she was grateful for anything to eat), she would not eat it as well. I switched to the Meow Mix shredded with gravy and they all love that. I tried feeding my other cats the healthy stuff as well and they tried to cover it up like it was a bowel movement..LOL. Amber will eat cooked chicken but my other cats won't eat anything but cat food. I aree with supplementing their junk food cat food with real meat if you can get them to eat it. I am feeding Amber the Fancy Feast brand as well, but it not really a healthy brand... It is not cheap in price though. Jannes From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:47:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat Foof You may want to supplement what ever food you chose with chicken, ground beef or tuna. I've been able to get whole chicken at 69 or 79 cents a pound near the end of sell by date and recently picked up a couple of hundred cans of tuna at 39 cents each. When you figure out the per pound price you are paying a lot less than cat food and using all of the product. Before anyone jumps on me, the tuna is for putting meds in and is usually divided by 6 cats or by 2 cats and a dog. I would never feed it entirely. I can feed 7 cats and a dog for 3-4 days with a whole chicken. Same with hamburger. On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Katy Doyle wrote: And that subject is supposed to be cat food... Typos! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of food do you feed your cats? I was feeding the Blue Buffalo and I really liked it, but it is getting too expensive because of my furlough days at work. I'm looking for something affordable but still good for cats that are FeLV+. Thanks, Katy Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.
Terrie, I am so sorry you are going through such a difficult timeyou are in my prayers, as is you husband...may his passing be peaceful and may you have solace in knowing you were with him. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] I am always with Her
I would LOVE to read any other things you have saved!!! Please feel free to email me. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:58:42 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I am always with Her I have no idea where it came from; I wish I had written it - obviously by someone who understood cats. I've had it in my files for a while, along with some other great ones. It's so true, one can just imagine a cat thinking. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Claudia Veiga Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I am always with Her Hi Natalie, Did you write this poem or knwo where it comes from? It helped me at the time my little furbaby crossed over to Rainbow Bridge. I think it must be true. thanks Claudia From: felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 1:00:09 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 33 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: For all who have lost their beloved cats! (Sara Kasteleyn) 2. Re: For all who have lost their beloved cats! (Bonnie Hogue) 3. Re: LTCI thank you! (Sean T. Collins) 4. Re: For all who have lost their beloved cats! (Sally Davis) 5. Cat Foof (Katy Doyle) 6. Re: Cat Foof (Katy Doyle) 7. Re: Cat Foof (MaiMaiPG) 8. Re: Cat claws (POTT, BEVERLY) 9. Re: Cat Foof (Jannes Taylor) 10. Re: Cat Foof (Christiane Biagi) 11. Re: Cat Food (Sharyl) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:16:14 -0700 From: Sara Kasteleyn skastel...@cicresearch.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] For all who have lost their beloved cats! Message-ID: 3066685843.20110327101...@cicresearch.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Me, too. Thanks for those beautiful thoughts. Sara --Original Mail-- From: a h alicehans...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:36:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] For all who have lost their beloved cats! that made me cry Alice - Original Message - From: Nataliemailto:at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] For all who have lost their beloved cats! I Am Always With Her And God asked the feline spirit, Are you ready to come home? Oh, yes, quite so, replied the precious soul, And, as a cat, you know I am most able to decide anything for myself. Are you coming then? asked God. Soon, replied the whiskered angel, But I must come slowly, for my human friend is troubled For, you see, she needs me, quite certainly. But doesn't she understand? asked God, That you'll never leave her? That your souls are intertwined. For all eternity? That nothing is created or destroyed? It just isforever and ever and ever. Eventually she will understand, replied the glorious cat, For I will whisper into her heart that I am always with her, I just amforever and ever and ever. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp: //felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:52:02 -0700 From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] For all who have lost their beloved cats! Message-ID: 738E26ABEAA34B6D87F081802D2B7A84@bonnietkude96r Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It's true, isn't it. Thank you. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] For
Re: [Felvtalk] Poppy
Finger crossed for Poppy! Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
I have a boy who had bouts of intermittent blindness.it went on for months. His vision is perfect nowand he is almost ten years old. Debbie Bates What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:15:05 -0800 From: create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went bling after surgery she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive lesions (his third dental surgery in six months). He came through OK it seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal range). But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet realized that Dublin seems to be blind. He did all the ocular tests they do and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, no evidence of hypoxia, etc. But only his left eye is even minimally reactive to light. The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all. Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly dilated and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat. I wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him and learned he was FeLV+. But he seemed to see fine. While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to adapt. He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has scarcely been out of a tech's arms since. (He is the most loving, people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's almost a joke how much he likes it there.) I am crazy with distress and also with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well. I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a FeLV-blindness link. Anne ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
