Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you Sent from my iPad > On Nov 30, 2017, at 7:29 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > Re: spay/neuter, First I give them 2 weeks for an owner to show up and then > it is off to the vet for an exam and spay/neuter. I do not want to be a > contributor to unwanted kittens/puppies plus they will live longer healthier > lives. > > Margo wrote: >> > Transmission of FeLV takes prolonged contact between cats; sharing food, > water and litterboxes, and often mutual grooming. It is NOT transmitted other > than by physical contact. > > Easiest way for me to differentiate between that and FIV transmission; > > "FeLV is a disease of friends, FIV is a disease of enemies" > > FelV spreads thru close friendly contact > > FIV spreads by deep bite wounds (or sexual contact, but all our animals are > altered...right?) > > Margo > > > > -Original Message- >> From: dlg...@windstream.net >> Sent: Nov 29, 2017 12:16 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I >> took Annie in. >> >> Ardy Robertson wrote: >>> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >>> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >>> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. >> >> Ardy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >> Theresa O'Rourke >> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM >> To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> Thank you Lorrie, >> >> So happy I joined this group. >> I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And >> clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. >> However, I won’t do this again, >> Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through >> this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure >> that is NOT NECESSARY. >> IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >>> >>> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >>> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >>> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >>> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >>> developed. >>> >>> Lorrie >>> >>>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>>> >>>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>>> >>>> Amani >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you, For all your wonderful responses. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > Since the vet is not worried, why should you? I thought about that when I > took Annie in. > > Ardy Robertson wrote: >> I always wondered about it when I took Tigger to the vet. I kept him in his >> carrier until we went into the exam room, but the vets never seemed >> concerned about spreading it to the other patients. > > Ardy > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Theresa O'Rourke > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:34 PM > To: felineres...@frontier.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question > > Thank you Lorrie, > > So happy I joined this group. > I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And > clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. > However, I won’t do this again, > Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this > again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that > is NOT NECESSARY. > IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: >> >> This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 >> and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived >> with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand >> FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully >> developed. >> >> Lorrie >> >>> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >>> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >>> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >>> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >>> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >>> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >>> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >>> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you Lorrie, So happy I joined this group. I’ll keep the cat for a week, spoil him, not mix him with Other cat’s, And clean well after, The room will be left empty for 7 days after. However, I won’t do this again, Because I have other people’s cats in separate room and Won’t go through this again! ☺️☺️ I’ll even change my clothes when I go in and out, But sure that is NOT NECESSARY. IF it was just my cat’s, I have three of my own, I wouldn’t be so neurotic. 😊 Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:56 AM, Lorrie wrote: > > This is my experience too. I've had FelV cats who lived to be 8 or 9 > and one of my FelV cats is about 11 and still OK. These cats lived > with many other negative cats. These were adult cats... I understand > FelV is most dangerous to kittens whose immune systems are not fully > developed. > > Lorrie > >> On 11-22, Amani Oakley wrote: >> >> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the >> infection would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) >> That was the case event though we never isolated our FeLV little >> boy (it would have been fairly pointless as he had already been in >> the house almost a year by then) and even though he played with and >> groomed several of the other cats in the house. I have since read >> repeatedly that it really isn???t that infectious, especially with >> adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >> >> Amani >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV transmission
Thank you Robert, I’m preparing the cat’s room with his own blankets, toys, Tower, and will clean everything well after! I’m not worrying about it like before, Because you all sent me back very good feedback and ideas! I really appreciate it! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 23, 2017, at 3:21 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > > to bolster what Amani wrote. Felv appears to be a minor risk for adult cats > who did not get the disease from the queen at birth. It is a MAJOR risk for > kittens born with the disease who still show it at 6 months. I wouldnt worry > terribly about adults getting it from a kittenwould definitely worry > abiut exposing kittens to a disease carrying adult OR kittenalso Caution > with FIV adults > > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 03:48 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: >> >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Question (Theresa O'Rourke) >> 2. Re: Question (Shelley Theye) >> 3. Re: Question (Amani Oakley) >> 4. Re: Question (Gloria) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:19:55 -0500 > to bolster what Amani wrote. Felv appears to be a minor risk for adult cats > who did not get the disease from the queen at birth. It is a MAJOR risk for > kittens born with the disease who still show it at 6 months. I wouldnt worry > terribly about adults getting it from a kittenwould definitely worry > abiut exposing kittens to a disease carrying adult OR kittenalso Caution > with FIV adults > > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 03:48 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: >> >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Question (Theresa O'Rourke) >> 2. Re: Question (Shelley Theye) >> 3. Re: Question (Amani Oakley) >> 4. Re: Question (Gloria) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:19:55 -0500 >> From: Theresa O'Rourke To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question >> Message-ID: <12335f70-455c-490a-849a-8badf0a69...@videotron.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 >> >> Thank you! >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: >>> >>> We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was >>> infected, despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection >>> would decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case >>> event though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been >>> fairly pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) >>> and even though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the >>> house. I have since read repeatedly that it really isn?t that infectious, >>> especially with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. >>> >>> Amani >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >>> Theresa O'Rourke >>> Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question >>> >>> I have three cats
Re: [Felvtalk] Wonderful, helpful answers,
Yes, I am over cautious also. A real worrier, so your answers have helped me. My daughter’s boss took in this stray cat, brought him to the vet for treatment, shots etc.. The boss is going away for a week, and asked if I could keep the cat during that time. I have a cat garderie, but I never mix the cats, they have their own room. I said, « yes, of course » It is « later »that my daughter phoned to tell me he is positive for feline leukemia. My daughter said that the vet said, just don’t put him with any other cats, and he needs his own food bowls. So I agreed, but started to worry!! But your answers have definitely helped. I’ll probably be over cautious But I think that would be better! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Shelley Theye wrote: > > Hi again Theresa, > > I am not understanding the circumstances. Was the cat left at a vet clinic? > Is your daughter’s friend adopting him? If so, send the toys along with him > to his home. > If he seems OK health-wise, other than testing positive, he could live for > years and be happy and a wonderful companion. > Also, sometimes there are false positives on tests, so usually a second test > if done or a different type of test, like an IFA test. > > I guess to clarify, for the virus to be transmitted through the cats sharing > food or mutually grooming, > it would be after a long period of time where the cats are in direct contact > with each other. > And even then, the chances are on the lower side. As Amani said, her cats > have lived together for > years with no transmission. > > I think keeping him separate since he will be with you for just the week, and > doing the basic hand washing, etc like i mentioned, > should suffice. I tend to be a worrier regarding germs, viruses, so am > probably more cautious in general. > > Shelley > > > >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Theresa O'Rourke >> wrote: >> >> I am still going to give the poor kitty a lot of love while he is here, it >> is so sad, >> He was a stray someone has adopted brought to the vet! What a hard life >> these poor cats have. >> My three cats are spoiled >> 👍👍😊😊😊 >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Grieving for K
So sorry for your loss! But I can tell your cat was well loved, had a wonderful life, thanks to you. I wish all owners treated their pets the way yo treated Krammer. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Wonderful, helpful answers,
I am still going to give the poor kitty a lot of love while he is here, it is so sad, He was a stray someone has adopted brought to the vet! What a hard life these poor cats have. My three cats are spoiled 👍👍😊😊😊 Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you, that is one of the best answers I’ve received. I won’t do this again, because I take care of other’s cats. However, for this time, the cat will be in his own room, he’ll have special toys I’ll throw out after, I’ll play with him, and brush him, poor thing. I’ll wash my hands and change clothes, it may be fanatic, but whatever.. However, after he leaves, I’ll wash everything, and give the room and floor a big cleaning. So all should be well, I promised my daughter, But I won’t do it again. Thank you for the great answer!!! Poor cat, it is so sad. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Shelley Theye wrote: > > Actually, Feline Leukemia can also be transmitted through ‘friendly’ contact. > Sharing food/water and grooming each other over a period of time. > The virus only lives for a few hours in the environment, so really just > cleaning out the food/water bowls and litter box after the cat leaves > should suffice, and check to see if any wet spots on floor, etc. from water > or urine and disinfect just to be on the safe side. > > You might want to have different shoes on too? and clothes, if you will be > playing with and handling the cat a lot, in case drools on you…but that might > be > going overboard. Definitely wash hands after handling... > > Shelley > > >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: >> >> My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with >> blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily >> through a bite. >> - Original Message - >> From: Theresa O'Rourke >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. >> My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate >> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after >> the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats >> also and want to know if they can catch >> The disease. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:30 AM, marlene melpignano wrote: > > From what I read (scientific articles) the virus might stay in the room from > 2 to 7 days. No conclusive data on this, but be careful. Even if a bite is > surely the most common way to catch Felv > > Inviato da iPhone > >> Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 17:03, kresch...@mchsi.com ha scritto: >> >> My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with >> blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily >> through a bite. >> - Original Message - >> From: Theresa O'Rourke >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question >> >> I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. >> My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate >> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after >> the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats >> also and want to know if they can catch >> The disease. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > We had a FeLV cat who lived to age 7. No other cat in our house was infected, > despite the fact that our vet initially said that the infection would > decimate the house. (We had at least 8 other cats.) That was the case event > though we never isolated our FeLV little boy (it would have been fairly > pointless as he had already been in the house almost a year by then) and even > though he played with and groomed several of the other cats in the house. I > have since read repeatedly that it really isn’t that infectious, especially > with adult cats. It is more of a risk with young kittens. > > Amani > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Theresa O'Rourke > Sent: November-22-17 10:14 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question
Thank you! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:03 AM, kresch...@mchsi.com wrote: > > My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with > blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily > through a bite. > - Original Message ----- > From: Theresa O'Rourke > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST) > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question > > I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. > My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate > room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after > the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats > also and want to know if they can catch > The disease. > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question
I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats. My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after the cat goes back home? It’s because I take care of other friend’s cats also and want to know if they can catch The disease. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
