Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Actually looking at those numbers I am surprised he is feeling any better at all since his WBC was even higher last week than initially:(. Hideyo, or anyone else, do you know anything about Leukeran? That is his new drug. On 4/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
When Bailey was anemic, my vet told me that if the prednisolone alone didn't do the trick to supress his immune system enough to help with the anemia we could try leukeran. It is an oral chemo drug. We never went that route because the pred and epogen corrected Baileys' anemia. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
At least I have learned here that cats tolerate chemo wellpoor guy. On 4/9/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Bailey was anemic, my vet told me that if the prednisolone alone didn't do the trick to supress his immune system enough to help with the anemia we could try leukeran. It is an oral chemo drug. We never went that route because the pred and epogen corrected Baileys' anemia. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
RE: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
I read it about that, too -- My felix passed away before I had a chance to try it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good When Bailey was anemic, my vet told me that if the prednisolone alone didn't do the trick to supress his immune system enough to help with the anemia we could try leukeran. It is an oral chemo drug. We never went that route because the pred and epogen corrected Baileys' anemia. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
I think Belinda responded to you on this already-- if Joey is clinically doing okay, I personally hate to use it on him right now as the side effects can make him sick. This seems to be CBC panel - do you have any additional blood work which tells all other his organ functions as well by any chance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Actually looking at those numbers I am surprised he is feeling any better at all since his WBC was even higher last week than initially:(. Hideyo, or anyone else, do you know anything about Leukeran? That is his new drug. On 4/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
What did you think of his bloodwork numbers Hideyo? I don't understand why they can act ok and be sick. How are we supposed to know they are sick? I mean when he lost weight I knew something was wrong but now he is gaining it back? But his blood numbers are worse? How can this be? On 4/9/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read it about that, too -- My felix passed away before I had a chance to try it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good When Bailey was anemic, my vet told me that if the prednisolone alone didn't do the trick to supress his immune system enough to help with the anemia we could try leukeran. It is an oral chemo drug. We never went that route because the pred and epogen corrected Baileys' anemia. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
He ran another blood panel the first visit, but he doesn't run it every week. I can post it when I get home..I keep his test results at home. I don't even know what the second one means at all... On 4/9/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Belinda responded to you on this already-- if Joey is clinically doing okay, I personally hate to use it on him right now as the side effects can make him sick. This seems to be CBC panel - do you have any additional blood work which tells all other his organ functions as well by any chance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Actually looking at those numbers I am surprised he is feeling any better at all since his WBC was even higher last week than initially:(. Hideyo, or anyone else, do you know anything about Leukeran? That is his new drug. On 4/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Kelley, Here are a few sites that help understand bloodwork: http://home.gci.net/%7Edivs/disease/lab_tests.html http://www.catdoctor.com/info/?category=4article=8 http://www.felinelymphomacaregivers.org/docs/bloodserum.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
What does clinically doing ok mean? He acts ok but his bloodwork seems like he is dying? So is he clinically ok or not? I'm so confused. On 4/9/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Belinda responded to you on this already-- if Joey is clinically doing okay, I personally hate to use it on him right now as the side effects can make him sick. This seems to be CBC panel - do you have any additional blood work which tells all other his organ functions as well by any chance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Actually looking at those numbers I am surprised he is feeling any better at all since his WBC was even higher last week than initially:(. Hideyo, or anyone else, do you know anything about Leukeran? That is his new drug. On 4/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http
To Kelley: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Hey Kelley, What I noticed with these different results is Joey's reticulocyte count. I think the higher, the better. According to wikipedia, Reticulocytes are immature red blood cells, typically composing about 1% of the red cells in the human body (or kitty body per me). Reticulocytes develop and mature in the red bone marrow and then circulate for about a day in the blood stream before developing into mature red blood cells. Like mature red blood cells, reticulocytes do not have a cell nucleus. They are called reticulocytes because of a reticular (mesh-like) network of ribosomal RNA that becomes visible under a microscope with certain stains such as new methylene blue. I noticed that Joey's reticulocyte count is fairly high on this last set of labs, compared to the week before when they were lower. I hope this means good things for him. Maybe the wbc's are not killing off the rbc's so quickly now, explaining his unexplained health? :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 === message truncated === Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar
RE: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
RE: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
At 12:51 AM 4/7/2007, you wrote: it is good that the WBC is even up a bit. it means the body is fighting infections. The danger is with a very low WBC,,,The PCV is the same as the hematocrit, A good indication Kelly What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
With the type of anemai he has, autoimmune hemolytic, having the wbc up is bad. It means his own body is destroying the red blood cells faster than he can make them. That's why we are giving him lots of steriods, to try to keep his immune system downand that's why a transfusion won't do him any good. It just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy:( On 4/7/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:51 AM 4/7/2007, you wrote: it is good that the WBC is even up a bit. it means the body is fighting infections. The danger is with a very low WBC,,,The PCV is the same as the hematocrit, A good indication Kelly What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Oh, and his new med is Leukeran...2 mg q 48 hr. On 4/7/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
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RE: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
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Sure. 3/21/07 CBC WBC 21.5 LYM 0.62 MONO 1.85 NEU 18.44 EOS 0.51 BASO .008 HCT 15.3 RBC 3.23 HGB 8.5 RETIC 11.3 MCV 47.4 RDW 22.3 MCH 26.36 PLT 731 MPV 9.29 PCT 0.7% PDW 22.7% 3/26/2007 WBC 16.96 LYM 0.81 MONO 1.52 NEU 14.38 BOS 0.22 BASO 0.05 HCT 12.6 RBC 2.59 HGB 7.9 RETIC 9.3 MCV 48.9 RDW 22.4 MCH 30.39 PLT 815 MPC 10.38 PCT 0.8% PDW 22.0% 4/4/2007 WBC 25.85 LYM 0.84 MONO 2.24 NEU 22.43 EOS .27 BASO 0.07 HCT 13.5 RBC 2.71 HGB 5.7 RETIC 21.0 MCV 50.0 RDW 20.5 MCH 20.95 PLT 425 MPV 17.09 PCT 0.7 PDW 22.6 On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you post everything? If you can with what was before and what's now even thought they are within the normal range, that will be great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Hideyo, I have all his blood values. I will give the ones out of normal range..if you want the others let me know.. WBC 25.85- up 16.9, ws in normal range, Mono 2.24, Neu, 22.43, up 14, hct 13.5, up 1%, rbc 2.71, hgb 5.7, mch 20.95. On 4/7/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the PCV? You usually don't give transfusions until PCV is down below 12 or 13 if they are clinically ill - I personally say not to worry about WBC being up -- at least it means that the body is generating blood - How is the rest of the blood work look like, do you know? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
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Kelley, Prayers going out for little Joey. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned, to put it mildly. My poor boy's PCV/RBC values are up, very slightly. I think the RBC went from 2.59 to 2.75. His white blood cell count is back up again, though - it had gone down last bloodwork. He still feels very good, and that's why my vet says to keep going. If he didn't feel good he says he'd tell me to stop now. I asked him about transfusion/epogen. He says with this type of anemia, it just gives the white blood cells more material to destroy. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
