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Lycine is supposed to suppress, not eliminate, reproduction of the virus. Apparently it has been in use for decades. It is an amino acid, so not harmful. Googling just now I found a study that says it does not work. Nevertheless, I am going to use it to try and protect my other cats. Destiny's infection was never cultured, so might not be Herpe's anyway. Antibiotic seems to not be working either. I am feeding cat food with a syringe and she is going to the vet today for a consult on using steroids and Zander's Protocol. Marilyn From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.) Thank you, Ardy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Ardy, Lysine, or L-lysine, is an essential amino acid, meaning it is necessary for human health, but the body cannot make it. It has been promoted for use in cats to help prevent or aide in healing Herpesvirus infections in cats (also called feline viral rhinotracheitis). However, recent info has disputed this. For details, see: http://consciouscat.net/2016/01/11/l-lysine-does-not-decrease-symptoms-of-feline-upper-respiratory-infections/ Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:09 AM From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.) Thank you, Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Knapp Litt Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant This is what our vet told us last week. When we found out our Destiny had FeLV, we took our four other cats in. They were all fine except one, Blossom. She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and diet. She is FIV! So not a good month for our cats. I am using lycine in all their water dishes. Marilyn Destiny FeLV and sinus infection From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Theye Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Sandy, I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of. It is no longer on the market. Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test. Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard. Shelley On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest?? Thank you, Sandy W From: "Amani Oakley" <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone: 2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; thyme2s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer.
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May I ask – what is lycine that was mentioned for use in water dishes (not that Topaz drinks out of dishes! But Peekers does.) Thank you, Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Knapp Litt Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant This is what our vet told us last week. When we found out our Destiny had FeLV, we took our four other cats in. They were all fine except one, Blossom. She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and diet. She is FIV! So not a good month for our cats. I am using lycine in all their water dishes. Marilyn Destiny FeLV and sinus infection From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Theye Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Sandy, I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of. It is no longer on the market. Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test. Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard. Shelley On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net> > wrote: Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest?? Thank you, Sandy W _ From: "Amani Oakley" mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone:2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> ; thyme2s...@gmail.com <mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W _ From: "Pam Doore" mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system.
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thanks for the clarification - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Knapp Litt" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:19:56 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant This is what our vet told us last week. When we found out our Destiny had FeLV, we took our four other cats in. They were all fine except one, Blossom. She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and diet. She is FIV! So not a good month for our cats. I am using lycine in all their water dishes. Marilyn Destiny FeLV and sinus infection From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Theye Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Sandy, I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of. It is no longer on the market. Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test. Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard. Shelley On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy < swacht1...@comcast.net > wrote: Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest?? Thank you, Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Amani Oakley" < aoak...@oakleylegal.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone: 2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [ mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; thyme2s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W From: "Pam Doore" < thyme2s...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt < mari...@marilynlitt.com > wrote
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This is what our vet told us last week. When we found out our Destiny had FeLV, we took our four other cats in. They were all fine except one, Blossom. She is 16 and basically has one kidney, but seemed to be fine with the meds and diet. She is FIV! So not a good month for our cats. I am using lycine in all their water dishes. Marilyn Destiny FeLV and sinus infection From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Shelley Theye Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Sandy, I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of. It is no longer on the market. Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test. Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard. Shelley On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy mailto:swacht1...@comcast.net> > wrote: Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest?? Thank you, Sandy W _ From: "Amani Oakley" mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone:2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> ; thyme2s...@gmail.com <mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W _ From: "Pam Doore" mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~@~@~@~@~@ Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt mailto:mari...@marilynlitt.com> > wrote: Has anyone
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That is true for FIV not FeLv :). On Jun 19, 2017 5:25 PM, "Margo" wrote: > "It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may > test positive for FeLV - a bummer. " > > No. That's FIV. > > -Original Message- > From: Sandy > Sent: Jun 18, 2017 8:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, thyme2s...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists > of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to > get your kitty on this ASAP. > It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may > test positive for FeLV - a bummer. > > Sandy W > > -- > *From: *"Pam Doore" > *To: *felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent: *Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes > virus on top of the FeLu. > There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives > to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what > the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. > > What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? > > > ~~@~@~@~@~@ > > *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* > > > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt < > mari...@marilynlitt.com> wrote: > >> Has anyone used these for FeLV? >> >> >> >> My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find >> she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating >> her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible >> truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. >> She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is >> effective. >> >> >> >> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. >> >> >> >> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find >> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about >> boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were >> going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. >> >> >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> >> >> >> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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"It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. "No. That's FIV.-Original Message- From: Sandy Sent: Jun 18, 2017 8:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, thyme2s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP.It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy WFrom: "Pam Doore" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline AntioxidantHi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting?~~@~@~@~@~@Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. PatrickOn Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt <mari...@marilynlitt.com> wrote:Has anyone used these for FeLV? My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is effective. I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. Thank you! ~Marilyn Knapp Litt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yes, cats can take collodial silver. Both topically & internally. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant I am wondering if colloidial silver would help. I am soon going in for heart surgery and am taking mine with me to super bug infections. Can cats take this? Just a thought. Marilyn Knapp Litt wrote: > Has anyone used these for FeLV? > > > > My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find > she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her > and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible > truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. > She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is > effective. > > > > I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. > > > > I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info > on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about > boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were > going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > ~Marilyn Knapp Litt > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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No. A cat vaccinated for FIV can test pos. Not FELV. On Sunday, June 18, 2017, Sandy wrote: > Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists > of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to > get your kitty on this ASAP. > It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may > test positive for FeLV - a bummer. > > Sandy W > > -- > *From: *"Pam Doore" > > *To: *felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > *Sent: *Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes > virus on top of the FeLu. > There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives > to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what > the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. > > What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? > > > ~~@~@~@~@~@ > > *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* > > > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt < > mari...@marilynlitt.com > > wrote: > >> Has anyone used these for FeLV? >> >> >> >> My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find >> she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating >> her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible >> truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. >> She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is >> effective. >> >> >> >> I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. >> >> >> >> I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find >> info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about >> boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were >> going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. >> >> >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> >> >> >> ~Marilyn Knapp Litt >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
Hi Sandy, I think that it is the old FIV vaccine that you are thinking of. It is no longer on the market. Once cats were vaccinated with it they would test positive on a SNAP test. Cats vaccinated with the FeLV vaccine will not test positive afterwards, at least that I have ever heard. Shelley > On Jun 19, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Sandy wrote: > > Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - > and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to > retest?? > > Thank you, > > Sandy W > > From: "Amani Oakley" > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Marilyn > > Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s > Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of > Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very > serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood > transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful > that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant > against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. > > Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours > > Prednisolone:2.5 mg every 12 hours > > Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours > > Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including > haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the > haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are > concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, > etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol > every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours > should be enough. > > Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you > don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a > month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset You need to assess how > well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess > the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can > be modified if necessary. > > If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to > pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide > before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase > peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy > Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; thyme2s...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of > doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get > your kitty on this ASAP. > It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test > positive for FeLV - a bummer. > > Sandy W > > From: "Pam Doore" mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant > > Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes > virus on top of the FeLu. > There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to > all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the > name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. > > What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? > > > ~~@~@~@~@~@ > > Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick > > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt <mailto:mari...@marilynlitt.com>> wrote: > > Has anyone used these for FeLV? > > My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find she > had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her and > the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible truth. I > am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. She is on an > antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is effective. > > I am going to get DMG because frien
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
I am wondering if colloidial silver would help. I am soon going in for heart surgery and am taking mine with me to super bug infections. Can cats take this? Just a thought. Marilyn Knapp Litt wrote: > Has anyone used these for FeLV? > > > > My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find > she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her > and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible > truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. > She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is > effective. > > > > I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. > > > > I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info > on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about > boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were > going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > ~Marilyn Knapp Litt > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
Thank you Amani - I knew you would be able to be concise and to the point - and with FeLV time can not be wasted. One thing though - would it be wise to retest?? Thank you, Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Amani Oakley" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:00:17 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone: 2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset. You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; thyme2s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Pam Doore" < thyme2s...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt < mari...@marilynlitt.com > wrote: Has anyone used these for FeLV? My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is effective. I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. Thank you! ~Marilyn Knapp Litt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
Marilyn Sandy is referring to the combination of drugs which I’ve named Zander’s Protocol in honour of my sweet Zander who had FeLV. The combination of Doxycycline, Prednisolone and Winstrol (Stanazolol) pulled him out of a very serious downward spiral when nothing else had worked (including blood transfusion, LTCI and interferon). With all due respect, I would be doubtful that any anti-oxidants or natural remedies can do anything significant against this nasty virus and you don’t have time to waste. Zander’s Protocol: Doxycycline: 25 to 50 mg every 12 hours Prednisolone:2.5 mg every 12 hours Winstrol: 1-2 mg every 12 hours Before starting the protocol, I suggest a complete blood panel, including haematology and biochemistry panels. If money is tight, focus on the haematology panel, but ask also for a reticulocyte count. If there are concerning results in red cell numbers, haematocrit, reticulocyte counts, etc., and depending and HOW concerning the results are, use 2 mg Winstrol every 12 hours to start. If the results aren’t too bad, 1 mg every 12 hours should be enough. Keep track of the haematology results. I ran bloodwork every week, but if you don’t want to do that, or can’t, consider every other week or at least once a month. I don’t recommend once a month at the outset. You need to assess how well the protocol is working at the start. You also need to be able to assess the results by comparing them week to week, if possible, so that the meds can be modified if necessary. If the cat is also having trouble keeping food down and/or getting food to pass well through the intestinal tract, also add 1/5 tablet of metoclopramide before meals. That helps to speed up the emptying of the stomach and increase peristaltic action to move food through the intestinal tract. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: June-18-17 8:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; thyme2s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W From: "Pam Doore" mailto:thyme2s...@gmail.com>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~@~@~@~@~@ Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt mailto:mari...@marilynlitt.com>> wrote: Has anyone used these for FeLV? My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is effective. I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. Thank you! ~Marilyn Knapp Litt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
Pam Doore Ask Amani (on this felvtalk) about Zander's Protocol - consists of doxycycline, Prednisolone and most important is Winstrol. IMPORTANT to get your kitty on this ASAP. It is my understanding that a cat given the vaccine and then booster may test positive for FeLV - a bummer. Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Pam Doore" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 8:17:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ ~ @ Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt < mari...@marilynlitt.com > wrote: Has anyone used these for FeLV? My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is effective. I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. Thank you! ~Marilyn Knapp Litt ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant
Hi Marilyn, I have been using lysine gel to help my Mozart who has herpes virus on top of the FeLu. There was a powdered supplement that a FeLu rescue outside of Boston gives to all of their cats to help build up immune system. I don't remember what the name of that was. It was originally given to humans with HIV. What kind of infection is Destiny fighting? ~~@~@~@~@~@ *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Marilyn Knapp Litt wrote: > Has anyone used these for FeLV? > > > > My kitty, Destiny, is battling a bad infection. We were shocked to find > she had FeLV. She had had the shot and a booster. The vet was treating > her and the infection was getting worse and then we found out the terrible > truth. I am feeding her food with a syringe and keeping her comfortable. > She is on an antibiotic. I am giving her Essiac tea. No idea if it is > effective. > > > > I am going to get DMG because friends have suggested that for FeLV. > > > > I also am looking at Life Gold and Nu-Pet Feline Antioxidant, but find > info on using them with cancer, not FeLV. Anyone have a suggestion about > boosting her immune system and fighting this infection? We thought we were > going to lose her this week, but she is slightly better the last 24 hours. > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > ~Marilyn Knapp Litt > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org