Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
THANK YOU FOR THIS FASCINATING DISCUSSION. I want to come at this from a different viewpoint - - " related to intestinal issues" You have all read about Yahmuna here (FIV+) with chronic respiratory issues. Yes, she has gingivitis. Yes, most recently she was on a 2 week course of doxycycline (that was in Jan - - nothing since). When she came to my patio Nov 2010 she looked pregnant. She had tape worm, . . . The week following my adopting her back from the SPCA (Jan 2012) she was wormed with a topical wormer with amazing results. I came back with strongid. My assessment is that she still has worms. any comments re: stomatitis/gingivitis and "worms"? any advise? Thanks cz -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
The Chinese Medicine theory my holistic vet had was that if abx helped (which they seemed to with my cats, and apparently with others'), then that was cooling the fire coming from the stomach. So, that's why the Coptis Purge Fire helped, after initially getting the heat coming from the stomach down to a level that the herbs could handle. Note that with my cats, things did not clear completely until several months after the initial abx followed by being on the Coptis Purge Fire. On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > I have had a couple of cats who were suspected of having Bartonella but > the vet gave them doxycycline. It seemed to have cleared up the > Bartonella. I currently have one cat with stomatitis, not an FIV cat and > another negative cat who seems to be getting stomatitis. Romeo, who has > it, is on a steroid shot whenever I see that it's getting too serious. He > also got the long acting antibiotic convenia. It really seemed to help > him. I wish some researcher who cares about cats did serious studies of > what is causing stomatitis. It is so painful for the cats and expensive to > keep under control. > > -- > *From:* Kat Parker > *To:* Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Friday, April 6, 2012 3:06 AM > > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment > > *This was sent to me in email from a rescuer I know and work with. I have > an FIV cat I rescued from a drainpipe who now lives with another friend of > mine, John, and is very sick with stomatitis. Don't know if this will > help anyone, but it's good to pass along since FIV+ and FeLV+ cats have > problems with stomatitis: > > *Last year one of our vets found literature tying Stomatitis to > Bartonella. In fact, on the results for Bartonella now there is a > sentence saying that they have now found a connection between > Bartonella and Stomatitis in cats. A lot of cats carry Bartonella > (also tied into heart issues which a lot of people do not realize)! > So I highly recommend checking for Bartonella before removing his/her > teeth. The treatment is just a round of Azithromycin. Since > discovering this connection we have had several cats with stomatitis > test positive for Bartonella and all cleared after a round of Zithro. > I found a few links and pasted below. > Julia > > http://www.virginiaveterinarydentistry.com/647115.html > > > > "An association has been established between Feline Stomatitis and a > specific bacterial organism called Bartonella. In a large study 70% of > cats with severe gingivitis/ stomatitis syndrome tested positive for > this organism. Antibiotics in routine veterinary use have no effect on > Bartonella organisms but there is an antibiotic called azithromycin > that is effective. We are now recommending that all cats with symptoms > of stomatitis or severe gingivitis should be tested and those that are > strongly positive be treated. In the same large study, more than 70% > responded favorably to treatment. Bartonella is unlikely to be a > causative organism but one that contributes to the problem. Some cats > do not test positive and some that are positive do not improve, but > the link to Bartonella is promising and most cats that we have treated > have improved substantially." > > * > > Love and Katnip, > ~Kat~ =^,,^= > * > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
I have had a couple of cats who were suspected of having Bartonella but the vet gave them doxycycline. It seemed to have cleared up the Bartonella. I currently have one cat with stomatitis, not an FIV cat and another negative cat who seems to be getting stomatitis. Romeo, who has it, is on a steroid shot whenever I see that it's getting too serious. He also got the long acting antibiotic convenia. It really seemed to help him. I wish some researcher who cares about cats did serious studies of what is causing stomatitis. It is so painful for the cats and expensive to keep under control. From: Kat Parker To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 3:06 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment This was sent to me in email from a rescuer I know and work with. I have an FIV cat I rescued from a drainpipe who now lives with another friend of mine, John, and is very sick with stomatitis. Don't know if this will help anyone, but it's good to pass along since FIV+ and FeLV+ cats have problems with stomatitis: Last year one of our vets found literature tying Stomatitis to Bartonella. In fact, on the results for Bartonella now there is a sentence saying that they have now found a connection between Bartonella and Stomatitis in cats. A lot of cats carry Bartonella (also tied into heart issues which a lot of people do not realize)! So I highly recommend checking for Bartonella before removing his/her teeth. The treatment is just a round of Azithromycin. Since discovering this connection we have had several cats with stomatitis test positive for Bartonella and all cleared after a round of Zithro. I found a few links and pasted below. Julia http://www.virginiaveterinarydentistry.com/647115.html "An association has been established between Feline Stomatitis and a specific bacterial organism called Bartonella. In a large study 70% of cats with severe gingivitis/ stomatitis syndrome tested positive for this organism. Antibiotics in routine veterinary use have no effect on Bartonella organisms but there is an antibiotic called azithromycin that is effective. We are now recommending that all cats with symptoms of stomatitis or severe gingivitis should be tested and those that are strongly positive be treated. In the same large study, more than 70% responded favorably to treatment. Bartonella is unlikely to be a causative organism but one that contributes to the problem. Some cats do not test positive and some that are positive do not improve, but the link to Bartonella is promising and most cats that we have treated have improved substantially." Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
Thank you so much! FIV+ Sox is actually the first one I ever had to suffer from stomatitis. I will definitely have him checked for bartonella - it's great to have all these great thinking minds in one group! Natalie =^..^= From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kat Parker Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 4:07 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment This was sent to me in email from a rescuer I know and work with. I have an FIV cat I rescued from a drainpipe who now lives with another friend of mine, John, and is very sick with stomatitis. Don't know if this will help anyone, but it's good to pass along since FIV+ and FeLV+ cats have problems with stomatitis: Last year one of our vets found literature tying Stomatitis to Bartonella. In fact, on the results for Bartonella now there is a sentence saying that they have now found a connection between Bartonella and Stomatitis in cats. A lot of cats carry Bartonella (also tied into heart issues which a lot of people do not realize)! So I highly recommend checking for Bartonella before removing his/her teeth. The treatment is just a round of Azithromycin. Since discovering this connection we have had several cats with stomatitis test positive for Bartonella and all cleared after a round of Zithro. I found a few links and pasted below. Julia http://www.virginiaveterinarydentistry.com/647115.html "An association has been established between Feline Stomatitis and a specific bacterial organism called Bartonella. In a large study 70% of cats with severe gingivitis/ stomatitis syndrome tested positive for this organism. Antibiotics in routine veterinary use have no effect on Bartonella organisms but there is an antibiotic called azithromycin that is effective. We are now recommending that all cats with symptoms of stomatitis or severe gingivitis should be tested and those that are strongly positive be treated. In the same large study, more than 70% responded favorably to treatment. Bartonella is unlikely to be a causative organism but one that contributes to the problem. Some cats do not test positive and some that are positive do not improve, but the link to Bartonella is promising and most cats that we have treated have improved substantially." Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
