Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-14 Thread Kelley Saveika
I think that is up to each individual. I personally do not do late term spays where the kittens have to be euthanized as they take them out, unless there is some very good reason like the health of the mother. I do early spays. On 12/13/06, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then there

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Tad Burnett
I may be wrong but I will make an educated guess The shelter in question here is the largest No Kill shelter in the WORLD The number of animals they rescue is astronomical compared to the shelters that most of us know of Yet even at this they are only able to put a very small dent

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
How can it be No Kill if it kills cats simply for testing positive for corona? That is not No Kill. I think the largest actual No Kill shelter is probably Best Friends in Utah, which has several thousand cats and dogs at a time and does not kill based on tests. Michelle In a message

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
So then the cat with the positive corona titer is not going to be killed? A high corona titer does not cause suffering. Michelle In a message dated 12/13/2006 11:40:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It does not kill at all unless it is to end the suffering of

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Tad Burnett
And do they except every cat that comes to their door with no medical records ??? Our local county shelter likes to call themselves almost no kill... But I have 2 old cat that were an owner turn in that they refused to take because they were 8 years old so the owner brought them to my vet to

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Nina
We have a Humane Society no kill shelter fairly close to me. Their policy for accepting owner relinquished animals is very strict, only the most adoptable animals are admitted to the program. Completely understandable. I heard a very disturbing report from a rescue friend of mine that some

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Tad Burnett
Kelley Saveika wrote: My rescue is no kill. That doesn't mean that we accept every animal. We aren't responsible for the actions of the people whose cats or dogs we don't take in. But I bet if you did a follow up on the animals that you don't accept the end result is death... This

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 12/13/06, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley Saveika wrote: My rescue is no kill. That doesn't mean that we accept every animal. We aren't responsible for the actions of the people whose cats or dogs we don't take in. But I bet if you did a follow up on the animals that you

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Kelly L
At 09:44 AM 12/13/2006, you wrote: On 12/13/06, Tad Burnett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly many shelters kill because if RingwormWe are preaching here to the choir .I don't think it is far fetched to say all of us here would and do all we can for our animals,

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Phaewryn - Controversy Queen
You'd be shocked at the actual definition of no kill in shelter circles. In most, it simply means that when they run out of space, they stop taking in new animals, rather than just killing the ones that have been there the longest. Their testing policy, and euthanasia policy outside of the space

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread TenHouseCats
no, i wouldn't. it's a lot like, natural. or, organic. then there are the ones who won't euthanize even when the animals are clearly suffering, which to me is as bad as killing healthy positives have you read the asilomar records, which is what the maddie's fund no-kill nation stuff is based

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Phaewryn - Controversy Queen
Kelly, can I add your website to my list of no kill shelters? Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Kelley Saveika
This is a good point. I guess when discussing no kill we should all agree on a definition - if you don't agree on the definition then you can easily be discussing two different things, although to me it seems easy enough - no kill means you don't kill any animals, including those with FIV and/or

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Kelley Saveika
sure:) On 12/13/06, Phaewryn - Controversy Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly, can I add your website to my list of no kill shelters? Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:

Fwd: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread TenHouseCats
hee hee--thought this went to the whole list. since the answer was to more than just phaewyrn -- Forwarded message -- From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 13, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture To: Phaewryn -

Re: about exposed FIP cat that needs a home/The Big Picture

2006-12-13 Thread Tad Burnett
And then there is the question of a pregnant mother... Is it OK to abort the unborn babies ??? TenHouseCats wrote: no, i wouldn't. it's a lot like, natural. or, organic. then there are the ones who won't euthanize even when the animals are clearly suffering, which to me is as bad as killing