Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
Classic hyper-t symptoms: No diarrhea or vomiting that I've seen. He just seems hungry all the time and follows me around crying at me. We did some tests yesterday and are waiting for results. this is exactly how Fred was and he was very early hyper-t. Only found with the tfree4 test. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
We are hoping that's what it is. We did a panel which does a T3 and TF4 test so hopefully something will show up. We are worried it's something much worse :( Amy --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 11:40 AM Classic hyper-t symptoms: No diarrhea or vomiting that I've seen. He just seems hungry all the time and follows me around crying at me. We did some tests yesterday and are waiting for results. this is exactly how Fred was and he was very early hyper-t. Only found with the tfree4 test. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
No diarrhea or vomiting that I've seen. He just seems hungry all the time and follows me around crying at me. We did some tests yesterday and are waiting for results. Amy --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 11:08 PM Is there any diarrhea or vomiting? Frankie was ravenous - even raiding the other kitties' bowls and was diagnosed with pancreatitis. The vet had not seen the ravenous eating with pancreatitis before. He did lose some weight later after he became anorexic. He had occasional fudgy stools. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of awilkin...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy I have an appointment for Wolfie to get bloodwork tomorrow. He's been losing weight steadily for almost 4 years now. We've done numerous stool samples, bloodwork (CBC and chem) every 6 months, and 2 thyroid tests. He's been on kitten food (high fat) to try to stop the weight loss but it's not helping. He eats well and always seems hungry. I've been discussing how to proceed with my vet and her suggestions of possibilities were an IDEXX hemobart test, a pancreatitis test (spec-flp), a feline digestive panel (which would include the flp test), and a more extensive thyroid panel. Abdominal ultrasound and bone marrow biopsy came up as well as B-comp and B-12 injections. The lab suggested we start with the hemobart and thyroid panel tomorrow to see what we find. If we don't find anything there, we will do the extensive digestive panel in a couple weeks. Does that sound like a reasonable plan? We have been discussing whether to just treat for hemobart and while she is open to treating him without a test confirming he has it, we have some concerns. Most of the research she sent me expressed concerns about developing antibiotic resistance especially among cats with retroviruses. The other concern is what form of doxycycline to use if we do treat. What do most people use for their cats? She sent me some options and it seems esophageal stricture is a concern if using tablets for cats. She said I can get it compounded but wondered what form people on this board are using. Can anybody let me know what form of doxy they use to treat hemobart? Thanks Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
I have an appointment for Wolfie to get bloodwork tomorrow. He's been losing weight steadily for almost 4 years now. We've done numerous stool samples, bloodwork (CBC and chem) every 6 months, and 2 thyroid tests. He's been on kitten food (high fat) to try to stop the weight loss but it's not helping. He eats well and always seems hungry. I've been discussing how to proceed with my vet and her suggestions of possibilities were an IDEXX hemobart test, a pancreatitis test (spec-flp), a feline digestive panel (which would include the flp test), and a more extensive thyroid panel. Abdominal ultrasound and bone marrow biopsy came up as well as B-comp and B-12 injections. The lab suggested we start with the hemobart and thyroid panel tomorrow to see what we find. If we don't find anything there, we will do the extensive digestive panel in a couple weeks. Does that sound like a reasonable plan? We have been discussing whether to just treat for hemobart and while she is open to treating him without a test confirming he has it, we have some concerns. Most of the research she sent me expressed concerns about developing antibiotic resistance especially among cats with retroviruses. The other concern is what form of doxycycline to use if we do treat. What do most people use for their cats? She sent me some options and it seems esophageal stricture is a concern if using tablets for cats. She said I can get it compounded but wondered what form people on this board are using. Can anybody let me know what form of doxy they use to treat hemobart? Thanks Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
Have they done a T Free 4 thyroid test, not the regular one? Some cats will be normal on the standard test but actually be early hyper-t, my Fred was. We only tested with a T Free 4 because he had a nodule on his thyroid my vet felt had gotten bigger so we did both tests, the T4 was normal, the T Free 4 was high, barely but it was. My Fred presented with being ravenous, if I got up he jumped up and followed me just in case I was heading to the kitchen to feed him, he also would howl. He ate a lot and didn't gain any weight, I don't think he lost any but as much as he ate, he should have been huge and he was only 10 pounds, his normal weight. Is Wolfie anemic? If not I don't know why they would want to use doxy, do they suspect an infection somewhere? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
Have they done a T Free 4 thyroid test, not the regular one? Some cats will be normal on the standard test but actually be early hyper-t, my Fred was. We only tested with a T Free 4 because he had a nodule on his thyroid my vet felt had gotten bigger so we did both tests, the T4 was normal, the T Free 4 was high, barely but it was. My Fred presented with being ravenous, if I got up he jumped up and followed me just in case I was heading to the kitchen to feed him, he also would howl. He ate a lot and didn't gain any weight, I don't think he lost any but as much as he ate, he should have been huge and he was only 10 pounds, his normal weight. I'm not sure. They have done the TT4. I asked about doing the free one since you had mentioned it before and my vet said they do this thyroid panel which is supposed to be best when you don't get the results you might expect from the TT4. I'm guessing the panel includes the T free 4 but I'll ask. Is Wolfie anemic? If not I don't know why they would want to use doxy, do they suspect an infection somewhere? No, we had discussed that I may have lost Maverick recently due to hemobart. He was the one that became anemic and crashed quickly. My vet has done lots of research and doesn't feel he had it but I had asked about whether we should treat Wolfie for it, just in case. They were living in the same household. Amy -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
i know that there have been some recent studies about cats developing antibiotic resistance that directly contradict one another--winn feline foundation reported on one sometime last year, you could check out their blog at www.winnfelinehealth.org; they may have also been the ones who reported on the second study. i know that one of them showed that there has been NO increase in antibiotic resistance in cats re: one of the more common drugs (an amoxi compound, i think), which was VERY heartening. i'm sorry i don't remember the details; i quite probably sent the link when i got it and it's hiding in the archives someplace, but that's the one i know came from winn. do a search for something like, antibiotic resistance in felines and see what comes up--my answer to most things! MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
Hi Amy, I would suspect thyroid because of the being hungry all the time, I hope your vet figures it out so Wolfie can feel good again. Cats, they are mysterious sometimes!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy
Is there any diarrhea or vomiting? Frankie was ravenous - even raiding the other kitties' bowls and was diagnosed with pancreatitis. The vet had not seen the ravenous eating with pancreatitis before. He did lose some weight later after he became anorexic. He had occasional fudgy stools. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of awilkin...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Cat losing weight/question about Doxy I have an appointment for Wolfie to get bloodwork tomorrow. He's been losing weight steadily for almost 4 years now. We've done numerous stool samples, bloodwork (CBC and chem) every 6 months, and 2 thyroid tests. He's been on kitten food (high fat) to try to stop the weight loss but it's not helping. He eats well and always seems hungry. I've been discussing how to proceed with my vet and her suggestions of possibilities were an IDEXX hemobart test, a pancreatitis test (spec-flp), a feline digestive panel (which would include the flp test), and a more extensive thyroid panel. Abdominal ultrasound and bone marrow biopsy came up as well as B-comp and B-12 injections. The lab suggested we start with the hemobart and thyroid panel tomorrow to see what we find. If we don't find anything there, we will do the extensive digestive panel in a couple weeks. Does that sound like a reasonable plan? We have been discussing whether to just treat for hemobart and while she is open to treating him without a test confirming he has it, we have some concerns. Most of the research she sent me expressed concerns about developing antibiotic resistance especially among cats with retroviruses. The other concern is what form of doxycycline to use if we do treat. What do most people use for their cats? She sent me some options and it seems esophageal stricture is a concern if using tablets for cats. She said I can get it compounded but wondered what form people on this board are using. Can anybody let me know what form of doxy they use to treat hemobart? Thanks Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
