Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-10 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hi Amani – sorry I haven’t read my emails for several days. Yes, I did actually 
talk to them on the phone – mostly to do the ordering, but they were very 
friendly. They also, ready – drumroll………called me to inquire how the medicine 
was working with Tigger!!! At the time it was working very well so I was 
overjoyed that they cared enough to give me a follow up call. And, I know I 
sound like a broken record, but I am fairly convinced that had I started 
Winstrol earlier, Tigger may actually be still with us.

 

I would be happy to give the Diamond Back Drug Company folks a phone call and 
ask them if they could recommend certain vets in areas close to someone who 
needs to get a prescription. I don’t see where that should be a problem for 
them. I will let you know what they say.

 

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

Ardy

 

Did you talk to people at Diamond Back Drugs, or did you just order it online? 
I am wondering, if you spoke with them, whether they might be willing to let 
you know which vets have ordered Winstrol from them, and explain that there are 
lots of people looking for vets who are familiar with Winstrol. That might be a 
way to do it too.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-03-16 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, then 
I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one refill. 
After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The compounding 
pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond Back Drugs. I 
believe it is www.diamondbackdrugs.com <http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com>  and 
they are physically located in Arizona.

 

The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for me, 
only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got around to 
finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the Diamond Back Drug 
Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I changed to the Osseo 
Vet Clinic.

 

I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
because they were all aware Tigger was “using” :) and they knew that he made 
fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because I 
believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful disease 
that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.

 

That’s my 2 cents worth.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

 

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet. 

 

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-05 Thread Amani Oakley
Amy

I mentioned in a later post that it might be more efficient to call some online 
vet compounding pharmacies in your area and asking them if they know of any 
vets who prescribe it. They may not be willing to give you names because of 
“privacy” concerns, but explain that you are looking for a new vet, and ask if 
they would be willing to run it by any potential vets, that the pharmacy can 
give out his/her name.

Otherwise, I think you may be looking for a needle in a haystack. Moreover, I 
would guess if there is stigma or caution being exercised by vets regarding 
prescribing Winstrol, then calling them up cold and asking if they will 
prescribe it for your cat, may well make them quite nervous.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: October-01-16 10:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk 
mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet.

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in her mouth (her 
favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely walk into the room without 
laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. Over a pound which doesn’t 
sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to begin with. Life is still 
happening here.

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior pets. 
At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the life of my 
cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is terrific and that you 
have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to have the same, one day.

Sherri

From: Felvtalk 
mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
Reply-To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>" 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Sherri

I wouldn’t recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often 
do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.

I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology 
profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are indicators 
of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was simply no 
other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried out the two 
most likely new and promising therapies (LTCI and Interferon) and they were not 
at all (I mean AT ALL) helpful. So, discontinuing the Winstrol meant certain 
death for Zander. I am so glad I ignored the liver enzymes. They settled down 
on their own, and Zander never had any liver problems after almost a FULL YEAR 
on Winstrol.

I had another cat with a nasal sarcoma, who was 16 when she got the sarcoma and 
a tiny skinny thing. I put her on Winstrol because again, there were no really 
good options. Again, I had a great response, with it upping her appetite 
dramatically, and keeping the sarcoma in a shrunken state with far less 
discharge and swelling than prior to the administration of the Winstrol. Her 
liver enzymes went through the roof and the vet (a very good friend of mine who 
is the head of vet onc

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread dlgegg
lI like this.  We could have a data base of vets willing to try it.

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Ardy
> 
> Did you talk to people at Diamond Back Drugs, or did you just order it 
> online? I am wondering, if you spoke with them, whether they might be willing 
> to let you know which vets have ordered Winstrol from them, and explain that 
> there are lots of people looking for vets who are familiar with Winstrol. 
> That might be a way to do it too.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
> Robertson
> Sent: October-03-16 10:57 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
> 
> Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
> me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
> the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, 
> then I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one 
> refill. After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The 
> compounding pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond 
> Back Drugs. I believe it is 
> www.diamondbackdrugs.com<http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com> and they are 
> physically located in Arizona.
> 
> The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for 
> me, only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got 
> around to finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the 
> Diamond Back Drug Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I 
> changed to the Osseo Vet Clinic.
> 
> I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
> because they were all aware Tigger was “using” ☺ and they knew that he made 
> fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
> enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
> think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because 
> I believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful 
> disease that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.
> 
> That’s my 2 cents worth.
> Ardy
> 
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
> Glunt
> Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
> 
> I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
> prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
> resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around 
> my city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my 
> cat.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk 
> mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
> because of size.
> 
> Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet.
> 
> Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what 
> logic is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are 
> liver issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
> personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
> without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are 
> describing when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I 
> felt pretty defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after 
> reading it. I did not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very 
> scientific study does it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of 
> vets who are willing to prescribe it as well as the results each person has 
> with their pet that is taking it. There again, I am way out in front of 
> myself here because Bogey is not thriving but she did just run into the room 
> with a Q-tip in her mouth (her favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely 
> walk into the room without laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. 
> Over a pound which doesn’t sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to 
> begin with. Life is still happening here.
> 
> It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
> Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
> From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
> choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior 
> pets. At any rate, I f

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy

Did you talk to people at Diamond Back Drugs, or did you just order it online? 
I am wondering, if you spoke with them, whether they might be willing to let 
you know which vets have ordered Winstrol from them, and explain that there are 
lots of people looking for vets who are familiar with Winstrol. That might be a 
way to do it too.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-03-16 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, then 
I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one refill. 
After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The compounding 
pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond Back Drugs. I 
believe it is www.diamondbackdrugs.com<http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com> and 
they are physically located in Arizona.

The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for me, 
only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got around to 
finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the Diamond Back Drug 
Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I changed to the Osseo 
Vet Clinic.

I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
because they were all aware Tigger was “using” ☺ and they knew that he made 
fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because I 
believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful disease 
that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.

That’s my 2 cents worth.
Ardy


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk 
mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet.

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in her mouth (her 
favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely walk into the room without 
laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. Over a pound which doesn’t 
sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to begin with. Life is still 
happening here.

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior pets. 
At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the life of my 
cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is terrific and that you 
have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to have the same, one day.

Sherri

From: Felvtalk 
mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
Reply-To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>"

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Ardy Robertson
I’m up for that Amani,

Even though I don’t presently have any fur-kids with FeLV, I want to do 
everything I can to help those who have FeLV positive babies. My Tigger will be 
in my heart forever, as you know :)

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

Ardy

 

Thank you for the comment, but I really feel that all I have is a scientific 
hypothesis based on my observations, research, and the weekly bloodwork I did 
on Zander. That is part of the problem of course, There are no actual studies. 
However, as more people take the step of tracking bloodwork and posting it for 
everyone to see, hopefully, we can build a body of information which might be 
helpful for others and for vets to see.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-03-16 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, then 
I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one refill. 
After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The compounding 
pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond Back Drugs. I 
believe it is www.diamondbackdrugs.com <http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com>  and 
they are physically located in Arizona.

 

The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for me, 
only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got around to 
finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the Diamond Back Drug 
Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I changed to the Osseo 
Vet Clinic.

 

I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
because they were all aware Tigger was “using” :) and they knew that he made 
fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because I 
believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful disease 
that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.

 

That’s my 2 cents worth.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

 

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet. 

 

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in her mouth (her 
favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely walk into the room without 
laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. Over a pound which doesn’t 
sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to begin with. Life is still 
happening here.

 

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
From what you found with your other cat, clearly this co

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-04 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy

Thank you for the comment, but I really feel that all I have is a scientific 
hypothesis based on my observations, research, and the weekly bloodwork I did 
on Zander. That is part of the problem of course, There are no actual studies. 
However, as more people take the step of tracking bloodwork and posting it for 
everyone to see, hopefully, we can build a body of information which might be 
helpful for others and for vets to see.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: October-03-16 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, then 
I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one refill. 
After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The compounding 
pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond Back Drugs. I 
believe it is www.diamondbackdrugs.com<http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com> and 
they are physically located in Arizona.

The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for me, 
only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got around to 
finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the Diamond Back Drug 
Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I changed to the Osseo 
Vet Clinic.

I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
because they were all aware Tigger was “using” ☺ and they knew that he made 
fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because I 
believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful disease 
that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.

That’s my 2 cents worth.
Ardy


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk 
mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet.

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in her mouth (her 
favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely walk into the room without 
laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. Over a pound which doesn’t 
sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to begin with. Life is still 
happening here.

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior pets. 
At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the life of my 
cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is terrific and that you 
have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to have the same, one day.

Sherri

From: Felvtalk 
mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
Reply-To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>>
Date: Friday, Se

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-03 Thread Ardy Robertson
Well I live in Osseo, Wisconsin – and the Osseo Vet Clinic prescribed it for 
me. They did not have a source for it, but I located one online for them, and 
the vet who is no longer there, would fill in a form online and order it, then 
I paid for it with a credit card and it shipped to my house with one refill. 
After that refill, the vet had to request it online again. The compounding 
pharmacy I found online was wonderful – they are called Diamond Back Drugs. I 
believe it is www.diamondbackdrugs.com <http://www.diamondbackdrugs.com>  and 
they are physically located in Arizona.

 

The Animal Wellness Center in Mondovi, Wisconsin SAID they would get it for me, 
only after I begged for it for weeks, but then they never quite got around to 
finding a source for it, and when I gave them the name of the Diamond Back Drug 
Company, they never quite got around to ordering it. So I changed to the Osseo 
Vet Clinic.

 

I do believe the other vets at the Osseo Vet Clinic would prescribe it for me 
because they were all aware Tigger was “using” :) and they knew that he made 
fantastic progress while on it. I just didn’t get him started on it earlier 
enough and I did not know to give him Doxycycline until it was too late. I 
think I would demand Doxycycline for him if I had it to do over again because I 
believe Amani is probably the most knowledgeable about this dreadful disease 
that the vets have no answer for other than euthanization.

 

That’s my 2 cents worth.

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy 
Glunt
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk mailto:skgodschal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
because of size.

 

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet. 

 

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what logic 
is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are liver 
issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are describing 
when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I felt pretty 
defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after reading it. I did 
not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very scientific study does 
it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of vets who are willing to 
prescribe it as well as the results each person has with their pet that is 
taking it. There again, I am way out in front of myself here because Bogey is 
not thriving but she did just run into the room with a Q-tip in her mouth (her 
favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely walk into the room without 
laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. Over a pound which doesn’t 
sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to begin with. Life is still 
happening here.

 

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior pets. 
At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the life of my 
cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is terrific and that you 
have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to have the same, one day.

 

Sherri

 

From: Felvtalk mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> > on behalf of Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com> >
Reply-To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >
Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> " 
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

 

Sherri

 

I wouldn’t recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often 
do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.

 

I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology 
profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are indicators 
of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was simply no 
other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried o

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-01 Thread Amy Glunt
I think it would be really great if we could all compile a list of vets that 
prescribe the stanzolol, perhaps by state. That would be a really great 
resource for people who are looking for this information. I'm calling around my 
city tomorrow to see if I can find any vets who will prescribe it for my cat. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Sherri Godschalk  wrote:
> 
> Had to shorten this…hope it doesn’t post twice as it went to the moderator 
> because of size.
> 
> Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet. 
> 
> Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what 
> logic is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol are 
> liver issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for me 
> personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would do 
> without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are 
> describing when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I 
> felt pretty defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after 
> reading it. I did not notice the dosages though. Doesn’t sound like a very 
> scientific study does it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of 
> vets who are willing to prescribe it as well as the results each person has 
> with their pet that is taking it. There again, I am way out in front of 
> myself here because Bogey is not thriving but she did just run into the room 
> with a Q-tip in her mouth (her favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could barely 
> walk into the room without laying down. She has also steadily gained weight. 
> Over a pound which doesn’t sound like much but she barely weighed 5 pounds to 
> begin with. Life is still happening here.
> 
> It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol. 
> Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user) 
> From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive 
> choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior 
> pets. At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the 
> life of my cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is terrific 
> and that you have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to have the 
> same, one day.
> 
> Sherri
> 
> From: Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani 
> Oakley 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol
> 
> Sherri
>  
> I wouldn’t recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often 
> do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.
>  
> I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology 
> profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are 
> indicators of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was 
> simply no other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried out 
> the two most likely new and promising therapies (LTCI and Interferon) and 
> they were not at all (I mean AT ALL) helpful. So, discontinuing the Winstrol 
> meant certain death for Zander. I am so glad I ignored the liver enzymes. 
> They settled down on their own, and Zander never had any liver problems after 
> almost a FULL YEAR on Winstrol.
>  
> I had another cat with a nasal sarcoma, who was 16 when she got the sarcoma 
> and a tiny skinny thing. I put her on Winstrol because again, there were no 
> really good options. Again, I had a great response, with it upping her 
> appetite dramatically, and keeping the sarcoma in a shrunken state with far 
> less discharge and swelling than prior to the administration of the Winstrol. 
> Her liver enzymes went through the roof and the vet (a very good friend of 
> mine who is the head of vet oncology and a brilliant man) knowing how I feel 
> about Winstrol, just asked if I would agree to discontinue the Winstrol to 
> see if the liver enzymes would reduce. (Very gently. He knew he was on thin 
> ice.)  I did, for a few weeks, then put her back on. She lived to age 19 with 
> that sarcoma, because the Winstrol kept her eating, and happy and strong.
>  
> One of the smart folks on this chatline, recently sent me what was likely the 
> stupid vet research publication which likely started the whole “liver” scare. 
> Look it up because I cannot attach it to this email as it will not go 
> through. The title is, “Hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats” by Kenneth R. 
> Harkin, et. al. in JAVMA, Vol. 217, No. 5, September 1, 2000. Bizarrely, in 
> this study, the authors put the cats on a “loading dose” of 25 mg 
> intra

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-10-01 Thread Sherri Godschalk
Had to shorten thisŠhope it doesn¹t post twice as it went to the moderator
because of size.

Good to know about the liver test. I will NOT mention it to my vet.

Since this whole process has started for Bogey and I, I often wonder what
logic is used when saying that the side affects from taking the Stanzolol
are liver issues, but the side effect of not taking it, is death. I know for
me personally, if I was sick and facing this decision, I know what I would
do without question. Believe it or not, I read that exact paper you are
describing when Bogey was first prescribed the Stanzolol. (Google search) I
felt pretty defeated (although many of the terms were over my head) after
reading it. I did not notice the dosages though. Doesn¹t sound like a very
scientific study does it. Maybe we should start our own. Post the names of
vets who are willing to prescribe it as well as the results each person has
with their pet that is taking it. There again, I am way out in front of
myself here because Bogey is not thriving but she did just run into the room
with a Q-tip in her mouth (her favorite toy) and 60 days ago she could
barely walk into the room without laying down. She has also steadily gained
weight. Over a pound which doesn¹t sound like much but she barely weighed 5
pounds to begin with. Life is still happening here.

It does seem like there is secrecy surrounding vets prescribing Stanzolol.
Almost like I am scoring some heroin or something. (no I am not a drug user)
>From what you found with your other cat, clearly this could be a positive
choice for inoperable tumors, and or life extending treatment for senior
pets. At any rate, I feel luckier each day that my current vet values the
life of my cat enough to try to save her. It sounds like your vet is
terrific and that you have a great, long relationship with them. I hope to
have the same, one day.

Sherri

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:29 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  [Felvtalk] FW:  FW:  Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Sherri
 
I wouldn¹t recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often
do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.
 
I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology
profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are
indicators of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was
simply no other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried
out the two most likely new and promising therapies (LTCI and Interferon)
and they were not at all (I mean AT ALL) helpful. So, discontinuing the
Winstrol meant certain death for Zander. I am so glad I ignored the liver
enzymes. They settled down on their own, and Zander never had any liver
problems after almost a FULL YEAR on Winstrol.
 
I had another cat with a nasal sarcoma, who was 16 when she got the sarcoma
and a tiny skinny thing. I put her on Winstrol because again, there were no
really good options. Again, I had a great response, with it upping her
appetite dramatically, and keeping the sarcoma in a shrunken state with far
less discharge and swelling than prior to the administration of the
Winstrol. Her liver enzymes went through the roof and the vet (a very good
friend of mine who is the head of vet oncology and a brilliant man) knowing
how I feel about Winstrol, just asked if I would agree to discontinue the
Winstrol to see if the liver enzymes would reduce. (Very gently. He knew he
was on thin ice.)  I did, for a few weeks, then put her back on. She lived
to age 19 with that sarcoma, because the Winstrol kept her eating, and happy
and strong.
 
One of the smart folks on this chatline, recently sent me what was likely
the stupid vet research publication which likely started the whole ³liver²
scare. Look it up because I cannot attach it to this email as it will not go
through. The title is, ³Hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats² by Kenneth R.
Harkin, et. al. in JAVMA, Vol. 217, No. 5, September 1, 2000. Bizarrely, in
this study, the authors put the cats on a ³loading dose² of 25 mg
intramuscularly, then 2 mg a day by mouth, every 12 hours. So, just for
starters, you see that for some reason, they started the cats on TEN TIMES
the normal dose, and them kept them on at least TWO TIMES the normal dosefor
the rest of the study. Even then, here are some telltale pieces of
information:


 


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-09-30 Thread dlgegg
I think I asked this before, but hospital messed with my head.  Is Winstrol 
something you can get ahead of time and store either in the fridge or room 
temperature?  would be nice to have on hand so could start it asap when needed.


 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Sherri
> 
> I wouldn't recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often 
> do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.
> 
> I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology 
> profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are 
> indicators of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was 
> simply no other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried out 
> the two most likely new and promising therapies (LTCI and Interferon) and 
> they were not at all (I mean AT ALL) helpful. So, discontinuing the Winstrol 
> meant certain death for Zander. I am so glad I ignored the liver enzymes. 
> They settled down on their own, and Zander never had any liver problems after 
> almost a FULL YEAR on Winstrol.
> 
> I had another cat with a nasal sarcoma, who was 16 when she got the sarcoma 
> and a tiny skinny thing. I put her on Winstrol because again, there were no 
> really good options. Again, I had a great response, with it upping her 
> appetite dramatically, and keeping the sarcoma in a shrunken state with far 
> less discharge and swelling than prior to the administration of the Winstrol. 
> Her liver enzymes went through the roof and the vet (a very good friend of 
> mine who is the head of vet oncology and a brilliant man) knowing how I feel 
> about Winstrol, just asked if I would agree to discontinue the Winstrol to 
> see if the liver enzymes would reduce. (Very gently. He knew he was on thin 
> ice.)  I did, for a few weeks, then put her back on. She lived to age 19 with 
> that sarcoma, because the Winstrol kept her eating, and happy and strong.
> 
> One of the smart folks on this chatline, recently sent me what was likely the 
> stupid vet research publication which likely started the whole "liver" scare. 
> Look it up because I cannot attach it to this email as it will not go 
> through. The title is, "Hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats" by Kenneth R. 
> Harkin, et. al. in JAVMA, Vol. 217, No. 5, September 1, 2000. Bizarrely, in 
> this study, the authors put the cats on a "loading dose" of 25 mg 
> intramuscularly, then 2 mg a day by mouth, every 12 hours. So, just for 
> starters, you see that for some reason, they started the cats on TEN TIMES 
> the normal dose, and them kept them on at least TWO TIMES the normal dose for 
> the rest of the study. Even then, here are some telltale pieces of 
> information:
> 
> 
> 1.  They start the paper by discussing abuse of stanozolol "by young male 
> athletes" - one has to wonder what the relevance might be.
> 
> 2.  They state, that, "these results (of hepatotoxicity in cats) were 
> unexpected, because to our knowledge, stanozolol has not been reported to be 
> hepatotoxic in cats".
> 
> Despite overloading the cats with bizarrely high levels of stanozolol, they 
> reported that most of the signs of hepatotoxicity (that being the high liver 
> enzymes) disappeared after the stanozolol was discontinued.
> 
> The levels of stanozolol used on these cats were the same as a previous study 
> which found stanozolol effective and helpful in treating sled dogs. THEY USED 
> THE SAME DOSE IN CATS AS THEY DID FOR THE SLED DOGS!!
> 
> That's like saying that a study where people were given the equivalent of 20 
> aspirin intramuscularly, and then given double the recommended aspirin dose 
> daily for several weeks, proves that aspirin is bad for you. Or how about 
> giving a group of people the same dose of medication as they give to treat a 
> rhinoceros, and deciding that the medication is toxic to humans, based on 
> that study?
> 
> I don't know what the purpose of this study was, but I am disappointed that 
> so many vets just "heard" that Winstrol causes liver damage, but never 
> bothered to actually read the literature. Anyone reading this paper, with any 
> modicum of scientific training, would be able to spot the serious problems 
> with it. The fact that it was coupled with the preamble regarding the abuse 
> of athletes using steroids, just seems to suggest that the study was intended 
> to bury Winstrol, so no one could get their hands on it - including those 
> cheating athletes. (I keep saying, if Winstrol is NOT effective, then why are 
> athletes who take it, considered to be cheating)
> 
> I gave the paper recently to my vet, who is very much in my corner and 
> thrilled with my many successes with my cats. She was very appreciative and 
> told me she would read it. That is what a good vet looks like.
> 
> (TIME TO CLIMB OFF THE SOAP BOX AGAIN.)
> 
> Amani
> 
> 
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: S

[Felvtalk] FW: FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

2016-09-30 Thread Amani Oakley
Sherri

I wouldn't recommend you run the liver enzymes. If they rise (and they often 
do) it will cause your vet to try to get you to stop the Winstrol.

I was running a full biochemistry profile along with the full haematology 
profile on Zander. So tests like ALP, AST, ALT, TBili and DBili are indicators 
of liver function. With Zander, they rose sharply, but there was simply no 
other option but to continue. I had done all my research, tried out the two 
most likely new and promising therapies (LTCI and Interferon) and they were not 
at all (I mean AT ALL) helpful. So, discontinuing the Winstrol meant certain 
death for Zander. I am so glad I ignored the liver enzymes. They settled down 
on their own, and Zander never had any liver problems after almost a FULL YEAR 
on Winstrol.

I had another cat with a nasal sarcoma, who was 16 when she got the sarcoma and 
a tiny skinny thing. I put her on Winstrol because again, there were no really 
good options. Again, I had a great response, with it upping her appetite 
dramatically, and keeping the sarcoma in a shrunken state with far less 
discharge and swelling than prior to the administration of the Winstrol. Her 
liver enzymes went through the roof and the vet (a very good friend of mine who 
is the head of vet oncology and a brilliant man) knowing how I feel about 
Winstrol, just asked if I would agree to discontinue the Winstrol to see if the 
liver enzymes would reduce. (Very gently. He knew he was on thin ice.)  I did, 
for a few weeks, then put her back on. She lived to age 19 with that sarcoma, 
because the Winstrol kept her eating, and happy and strong.

One of the smart folks on this chatline, recently sent me what was likely the 
stupid vet research publication which likely started the whole "liver" scare. 
Look it up because I cannot attach it to this email as it will not go through. 
The title is, "Hepatotoxicity of stanozolol in cats" by Kenneth R. Harkin, et. 
al. in JAVMA, Vol. 217, No. 5, September 1, 2000. Bizarrely, in this study, the 
authors put the cats on a "loading dose" of 25 mg intramuscularly, then 2 mg a 
day by mouth, every 12 hours. So, just for starters, you see that for some 
reason, they started the cats on TEN TIMES the normal dose, and them kept them 
on at least TWO TIMES the normal dose for the rest of the study. Even then, 
here are some telltale pieces of information:


1.  They start the paper by discussing abuse of stanozolol "by young male 
athletes" - one has to wonder what the relevance might be.

2.  They state, that, "these results (of hepatotoxicity in cats) were 
unexpected, because to our knowledge, stanozolol has not been reported to be 
hepatotoxic in cats".

Despite overloading the cats with bizarrely high levels of stanozolol, they 
reported that most of the signs of hepatotoxicity (that being the high liver 
enzymes) disappeared after the stanozolol was discontinued.

The levels of stanozolol used on these cats were the same as a previous study 
which found stanozolol effective and helpful in treating sled dogs. THEY USED 
THE SAME DOSE IN CATS AS THEY DID FOR THE SLED DOGS!!

That's like saying that a study where people were given the equivalent of 20 
aspirin intramuscularly, and then given double the recommended aspirin dose 
daily for several weeks, proves that aspirin is bad for you. Or how about 
giving a group of people the same dose of medication as they give to treat a 
rhinoceros, and deciding that the medication is toxic to humans, based on that 
study?

I don't know what the purpose of this study was, but I am disappointed that so 
many vets just "heard" that Winstrol causes liver damage, but never bothered to 
actually read the literature. Anyone reading this paper, with any modicum of 
scientific training, would be able to spot the serious problems with it. The 
fact that it was coupled with the preamble regarding the abuse of athletes 
using steroids, just seems to suggest that the study was intended to bury 
Winstrol, so no one could get their hands on it - including those cheating 
athletes. (I keep saying, if Winstrol is NOT effective, then why are athletes 
who take it, considered to be cheating)

I gave the paper recently to my vet, who is very much in my corner and thrilled 
with my many successes with my cats. She was very appreciative and told me she 
would read it. That is what a good vet looks like.

(TIME TO CLIMB OFF THE SOAP BOX AGAIN.)

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: September-30-16 7:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Continued Improvement for Bogey on Stanzolol

Oh my gosh Amani! What an incredible story. The chances that he could survive 
from where he was. I cannot imagine the joy you felt when you saw his gums were 
pink. What a long road for the both of you. Says so much about you. So your vet 
knew of the treatment but w